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07:26
@TheLethalCarrot Actually passed the part in the books. The first mention of the comet in Dany's storyline is at the end of aGoT, as they're making the pyre.
 
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08:30
The front page of /r/all is just all net-neutrality
that doesn't sound very net-neutral
Well I mean, without the exposure it wouldn't be neutral at all
And if those Americans fail to keep it neutral, we jut have to wait until this trickles over.
08:55
@amflare and change the date of the war [that dethroned the Mad King]. so looks like it was only that, that changed
So either move all those events back in time, to closer to AC, or move the moment the story is taking place forward
Not sure if either is truly truly truly set in stone
@JarkoDubbeldam Well for GRRM apparently it was changed for the sex, though that could just be interview speak
@JarkoDubbeldam I was just going off of the wiki a bit but that makes sense
@JarkoDubbeldam GRRM has stated they moved the rebellion and altered ages. Though some characters, older than the rebellion, have different show ages so the storyline around them must have changed too
It all get's awkward when you start changing a small thing cos big events all have to be shifted haha
@TheLethalCarrot I'd say sex isn't that important compared to having a bunch of very important storylines to be played by 7-year olds
@Edlothiad Also rep capped yesterday due to that question :P
something something child actors
09:03
@JarkoDubbeldam Me too, I'm just telling you GRRM's thoughts
If we decided to lose the sex we could have kept the original ages. And once you change the age of one character you have to change the ages of all the characters, and change the date of the war [that dethroned the Mad King]. The fact we made all these changes indicates how important we thought sex was.
Confirms SouthPark's theory
Horses truly are superior
@TheLethalCarrot I clearly need to get on this new Self-answer hype train.
Haha
@Edlothiad Well apparently I'm doing it right now
My first few attempts fell on death ears
The last couple have been quite successful
death ears, that's really deaf :o
@JarkoDubbeldam I think you'd be surprised, the sex was definitely far more important imo, child actors have shown the ability to pull of pretty great rolls, but a 14 year old actress getting raped by Jason Momoa, nope, not happening
09:09
@JarkoDubbeldam Oh you spend long enough in here and you'll know I can't spell
I didn't mean that that wasn't an issue, but rather that leaving it out wasn't that big of a deal
My boss constantly makes fun of me for incorrect variable names etc haha
yeah I have that too
misspelling connectionHandler as x.
@JarkoDubbeldam According to the author is was apparently
@JarkoDubbeldam Oh don't be one of those horrible people
@JarkoDubbeldam which brings us full circle
I kid
09:29
I don't know about South Park's Theory
Have you seen those GoT/Black Friday episodes?
Nope?
For starters, they're pretty funny.
But they mostly point out howmuch sex there is in GoT, but only ever flaccid dicks
Oh and at some point GRRM makes a point to travel on horseback, because it is the only mode of transportation with a significant quality
Wait what? They only show you flaccid penises?
:shrugs: don't shoot the messenger
09:38
Oh I understand it's a South Park episode
I thought it was something different
Sorry to disappoint
Well as someone in the comments pointed out, if it's an erect penis it's pornography
The people who complain about seeing penises in GoT irritate me (unless they hate all the nudity which exists). They're perfectly happy with breasts and vaginas constantly, but once a penis comes up they're like "That's just disgusting"
Just be grateful it's not a 1:1 ratio!
Problem is TV is still geared towards "Phwoaar look at her" and we're all climatised to seeing breasts. Even vaginas are a difference and penises especially so
I love seeing a good penis. As unpleasant as I think it looks imo every time is a win for equality!
Yeah we're being discriminated against! SHOW THE PENIS!
Screw net neutrality we want nudity neutrality
@Edlothiad You arguing with English vs American spelling again?
use the official name for the work/franchise so you agree it should be defence-aganist-... not defense-against-...Edlothiad 3 hours ago
10:06
@TheLethalCarrot hehe it's an older thing
We were granted approval from the overlords to use the in-universe original names (and in HP that's British, were the American novels are "Translations")
Haha good, British naming should always be #1 :P
@TheLethalCarrot For HP, Lotr and other British works
I was going to say ASOIAF would be in American but how does he spell?
I don't know, I'd assume American haha
Twilight deepened. The cloudless sky turned a deep purple, the color of an old bruise
American spelling of colour
colour is always my go to check for spelling area haha
armor is also a common one, esp in GoT
10:28
@Edlothiad Is that question more researched for you? :P
You poo I'm going to lunch!
Delete it and undelete in 45 minutes...
I'm asking for official statements though so it may be a harder one to track down
Basically about what we discussed yesterday but I've been unsuccessful so far in finding anything official on the matter
Might be something in a script saying it's been 237 years since the date of landing
10:30
That's what I was thinking
Though we only have 4 official scripts I believe, the ones given to the emmy's for consideration
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Q: Is there any official mention of the show changing the dates in the show to AL from AC?

TheLethalCarrotWhile researching my answer to this question Do we know when Daenerys Targaryen was born? I came across a slight oddity in how the Game of Thrones wikia shows the dates. Dates for the show appears to be given in BAL and AL meaning (Before) Aegon's Landing. The dating system is based on Aegon ...

Pilot, Battle of the Bastards, Mother's Mercy and The Children
10:57
I'm going to stop putting effort into my questions again haha, it appears as though the site loves the simple ones
@TheLethalCarrot I think it’s the fact that any fool could understand the other one and this one is more complex. “What’s xyz’s birthday” will always beat “Is there an official statement on why the labelling of the Years was changed?”
Oh I know, it was tongue in cheek
Since you said something like it's commented on in TWoIaF I've tweeted Elio to see if they have any information on the change
11:18
Oh, did I say that, I thought about it then thought "naaaah"
I couldn't find anything on asearchof but I still tweeted them anyway haha
They might have some insight into it at least
11:38
Was Cat resurrected through Lord of Light means?
@TheLethalCarrot Given the parallels between her and Beric, probably
Just cos GRRM has said the following about her
In my version of the story, Catelyn Stark is re-imbued with a kind of life and becomes this vengeful wight who galvanizes a group of people around her and is trying to exact her revenge on the riverlands.
Note he calls her a wight
@TheLethalCarrot That's the proof
If so that makes Jon and Beric wights to then though surely?
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Q: Are the "people" re-incarnated by the Lord of Light real?

EdlothiadAt first glance this question may seem a little weird, but bare with. I was having a discussion with some people and looking at Beric Dondarrion's wiki page which shows a video describing Beric. In the video they mention that George R.R. Martin calls Beric a "fire wight". If this is anything lik...

I forget if that answer actually covers that, but I thought it did
11:43
Ah good question
@Skooba left out the most explicit mention of Cat as a wight though haha
> In the video they mention that George R.R. Martin calls Beric a "fire wight".
That makes GRRM calling Cat a wight less of a big deal though
Oh yeah, essentially Beric, Cat and Jon are then fire wights
Did the cheeky click bait spoiler answer, then revert afterwards ;)
Well in the books it's Berry D and Cat and in the show its BerryD and Jon
Cat is Stoneheart, so why not an earth Wight
Cos its Ice and Fire baby
11:46
So we have fire ice and earth, and we're just missing wind to create the avatar
@Edlothiad mmhm?
I meant title!
Frodo-ian slip
@JarkoDubbeldam Viserion! He is also a wight, and flies -> wind
Confirmation that ASOIAF won't get finished :P
I had, very early in my career, even before I was a professional writer — I’m going back now to my fanzine days in the 60s and 70s — I was very prone to starting stories and never finishing.
Though there is light at the end of the tunnel
So, I started finishing things. And I’m bound and determined to finish Ice and Fire.
He's lied before he can lie again
12:15
Russian chat flags, 5 of them!
Run and hide
No badges in chat flag = no point
I don't see much point in chat flags anyway
I understand the need for them
But each room should govern itself, the same as each SE site has to, with SE site mods still having control as they do now
Flagging something in one room for someone else to judge on that has no experience of that rooms culture is daft
Fully agreed
Although if you have enough smurfs, a room can develop it's own culture without much worry.
And again this comes back to the whole context issue
12:20
Well as of now, flags should be handled without context
Developing the culture isn't the problem really though, it's having people judge a comment without knowing the culture
although there's never more than like 10000 messages per day, should be easy for per site mods to handle
@Edlothiad I know and I very much disagree with that
@TheLethalCarrot That was the "without worry" part.
Oh I get what you mean now
12:36
You see what I'm seeing?
cha-feel?
13:07
I thought someone may have been able to get an answer to my question by now
Well if we hadn't yesterday I don't know what you thought other people would get?
Well I didn't really look too in depth yesterday
Plus Egg and Skooba weren't involved yesterday
Pfft, as if they're any more knowledgeable..
@TheLethalCarrot involved in what?
13:12
Talking about this
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Q: Is there any official mention of the show changing the dates in the show to AL from AC?

TheLethalCarrotWhile researching my answer to this question Do we know when Daenerys Targaryen was born? I came across a slight oddity in how the Game of Thrones wikia shows the dates. Dates for the show appears to be given in BAL and AL meaning (Before) Aegon's Landing. The dating system is based on Aegon ...

We had a chat yesterday about it
Before the main question obvs
Why it made me send twice I have no idea
Haha not just me
@TheLethalCarrot ah i did see that. The only place it might be talked about is an inside the episode. I already checked the Histories & Lore and didn't see anything
or some other interview
13:15
Yeah I've looked over a lot of other interviews too
13:40
Got a reply from Elio/Linda :)
@TheLethalCarrot !!!!
I know :)
Should have invited him to come answer it himself lol
I did link it in my tweet
And he does know about the site cos he's answered a couple of questions before
@TheLethalCarrot my point exactly. I love how he has more silver badges than bronze badges.
13:43
Shhh don't tell Ed that
It's really only possible when you do not have that many posts/badges
@TheLethalCarrot I edited a bit in your answer, I hope I interpreted it correctly
@JarkoDubbeldam Yeah that's fine, thanks for clearing it up
@TheLethalCarrot if you think about it AL actually makes more sense... the landing was a single instantaneous event while the conquest took years.
Well two years and AC starts on Aegon's coronation
13:52
ah okay well that works then
At least that's how I understand it haha
so then why is it named after his conquest, and not his Coronation?
That's an outright lie @Skooba
13:55
well i stand corrected then
both start with a C
but coronation is so much clearer
@JarkoDubbeldam Because the coronation marked the end of his conquest
What Ed said
@Edlothiad which again is one event -> happy historians
Conquest also sounds better than coronation
13:57
true
It's After Conquest. It had to start after the conquest, it just so happens the year of his coronation was the year the conquest ended.
I linked all the relevant texts in here yesterday
yesterday, by Edlothiad
> Even the start date is a matter of some misconception. Many assume, wrongly, that the reign of King Aegon I Targaryen began on the day he landed at the mouth of the Blackwater Rush, beneath the three hills where the city of King's Landing eventually stood. Not so.
yesterday, by Edlothiad
> The day of Aegon's Landing was celebrated by the king and his descendants, but the Conqueror actually dated the start of his reign from the day he was crowned and anointed in the Starry Sept of Oldtown by the High Septon of the Faith. This coronation took place two years after Aegon's Landing, well after all three of the major battles of the Wars of Conquest had been fought and won. Thus it can be seen that most of Aegon's actual conquering took place from 2-1 BC, Before the Conquest.
yesterday, by Edlothiad
> Only a handful of lords had been present for Aegon's first coronation at the mouth of the Blackwater, but hundreds were on hand to witness his second, and tens of thousands cheered him afterward in the streets of Oldtown as he rode through the city on Balerion's back.
yesterday, by Edlothiad
> Amongst those at Aegon's second coronation were the maesters and archmaesters of the Citadel. Perhaps for that reason, it was this coronation, rather than the Aegonfort crowning or the day of Aegon's Landing, that became fixed as the start of Aegon's reign.
You lot need to start finding some questions to ask :P
I'm bored of making my own entertainment haha
@TheLethalCarrot we all want to answer questions tho lol
Exactly my past few questions I've ended up answering myself haha
there is a bunch of things i could self ask and answer from all the interviews/SSM iv'e read that dont have questions on here.
14:10
Though yesterdays one I had already lined up the answer :P
I'm not really a fan of the immediate self answer
It wasn't immediate, Mith answered first too
Either way I'll still never understand the problem with them haha
(but yours blew mine out of the water)
@TheLethalCarrot yeah you also got a WoG quote
thats different
Well I had already written a lot of it haha
14:12
and like you said, not immediate
if the question and answer come within 1 minute of each other.... meh.
@TheLethalCarrot I've also, um, never actually read anything or watched anything about ASOIAF/GOT. *gets out of room quickly*
I did do that once to see if it was the user or question or answer people were voting for
@Mithrandir where' my kick/mute button :P
Press it quickly!
14:13
you can't, it doesn't work on mods :P
On that note I've hit 100 GoT answers :)
Congrats!
@Mithrandir im tempted to try but i guess i'll just take your word for it lol
Now I only need to double it haha
14:14
That's around 2/3 of the total answers I've written on the site.
@TheLethalCarrot stop that :P
@Skooba So close to overtaking you evil laugh
@TheLethalCarrot quantity vs. quality. :P
runs to find more random stuff to put easy answers on
Hahaha
To be fair my score isn't tooo bad compared
no not at all
14:18
Especially since people don't really like upvoting late answers
you will just climb up slowly.... very very slowly.
I still haven't gone through all the old questions so there's probably a couple more answers waiting for me there
And a few more decent answers to new questions should boost my score
Skooba ~10UV/answer
TLC ~7UV/answer
Edlo ~25UV/answer
Who mentioned quality?
Haha now add Egg in
Egg ~18UV/answer
14:22
@TheLethalCarrot I wish they was a to search for question that have not been answered by a specific user
I am the best, bow down before your hero
But ignore Amf with his OoU skewed results
@Skooba Probably can with SEDE
@Edlothiad Go take the Upvote Throne then :P
Don't do a Ned
@TheLethalCarrot the "gate" anomaly
Amf doesn't get counted, he hacked the system
@Skooba Yep that abysmal of a Q/A
14:24
(37)
(Not sure if abysmal is the right word there)
@Skooba He had the same thing happen with SW answer the other day too
Without it, 6.11
Wow
That's a massive skew
Abysmal is exactly correct.
We're going to leave him at 6.11
Ah good
I would
Least I'm not last :P
14:26
@TheLethalCarrot i need 3 more answers with zero upvoted then i can a score of 1111 with 111 answers lol
In science you remove anomalies from results anyway
Even with the star wars one I'm double him
@Skooba Now that would be nice haha
@Skooba Prepare 3 answer, post them all, take screenshot, win.
14:43
I see you talkin' smack while I'm gone...
Just 'bout that damn Q/A
@amflare NO NO NO NO NO!
So just the normal
I only have 3 first posts today, how are you already here?!
Because the "day" changes at 6pm for me
oh, you didn't mean on the board already
whatever
14:46
Ye but I normally have 5 or so by the time you get here
I still have the highest voted GOT answer of all time
Stressful evening coming up
I mean, I have the power to remove the tag
brb, gonna add some random tags I need score on
:D
Alright Valorum, calm down
why are there no down stars in chat
14:51
Because people like you would abuse them
Out of interest what were you going to downstar
(odds on it's something I said)
what would a downstar even look like?
(for anyone wondering that's the normal star rotated 180 and turned red)
Did it manually so is a bit rough
But my star is actually down
I mean they both work
15:04
Woohoo another upvote!
Someone's getting fancy :P
Whats that? I can't hear you over the sound of my fanciness.
15:13
You've gained an ANC, are you South Africa?
Finess to Fanciness I reckon but I don't get the joke haha
ANC is the ruling political party in RSA since Mandela was elected...
Well there you go
RSA is the Republic of South Africa
15:20
Have you overused that gif in the past few days yet?
Can I just make a finite state machine with functions without fancy transition tables and shit? I can't be bothered with fancy transition tables.
@TheLethalCarrot I think I've hit the line
If not you are just under it haha
Either one more and gg line
I'm gonna just fall short of the rep cap today I bet
I guess SFF votes for killing animals
@TheLethalCarrot I'm at 85
15:29
I'm on 145 for the day and it'll probably stay there now
15:46
55 is easy enough to get, 115 might require 2/3 late answers, I need to do another superman and a DW or ST (not that I know anything about those tags) tonight
@Edlothiad except both the answer and the question are at a negative score
@TheLethalCarrot Its an incredibly roundabout way of saying "I'm so fancy, you already know"
@Mithrandir ye that’s confused me the most
@amflare he meant the ANC joke
On the other hand, my post about spam did a nice turnabout and is now at 9
I'm giving up on predicting how SFF meta people will vote. They're all inconsistent :D
@Mithrandir wonder why that is 🤔
15:58
@Mithrandir on meta you have to give the full voting cycle a chance to complete before even starting to come to a conclusion. I'd say this a minimum of 48 hours.
@Mithrandir however, you still have no answers agreeing with you on what should be done. The positive vote on the question only says "Yes, we should talk about it".
Right. Exactly.
Downvoting/upvoting on the question indicates that you think it's a useful discussion to have/not useful; voting on the answers determines what happens.
@Mithrandir It seems like no one realizes this.
Maybe the exception of confuses people?
16:14
@mith have you seen Paul’s comment and have you thought about it?
@Edlothiad 105 now!
@Edlothiad link?
@Edlothiad Not when I only answer in GoT and ASOIAF
Perhaps the problem (that manually-deleted spam/abuse posts aren’t ingested by Stack Exchange’s automated spam/abuse block tools) is better solved by changing Stack Exchange’s automated spam/abuse block tools, than by individual site users trying to remember which unwanted posts they shouldn’t click “Delete” on. — Paul D. Waite 1 hour ago
@TheLethalCarrot broaden you horizons
Meh. It's really not that hard to remember.
16:19
@Edlothiad Every time I try I can't be bothered to maintain them haha
Eeeeeeeeekk
Did the name of the site just change to 'The SciFi Stack Exchange'?
Hmm. That's how it was showing up in search results a couple minutes ago.
Didn't see that
16:26
Odd
Wanna see if y'all can duplicate that by Googling Story lovers stop time when touching scifi? :P
looks fine to me
also when emulating a phone
perhaps is a regional thing, but I can't imagine why
17:19
@Mithrandir looks fine to me too
I hate comments like this
Downvoting without commenting is a shitty thing to do. You answer the question then. — J Doe 5 mins ago
deletes
Problem is I then feel like I have to comment back and then I have to explicitly state I wasn't the downvoter to try and avoid the revenge downvotes -_-
Although I would welcome 1 revenge downvote to get back to 5 </s>
I flag deleted the comment, so now your comment is obsolete
Aye deleted it
Ciao
 
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18:56
will this day never end........
dammit
I just need tomorrow to get here
could you make that happen @edl?
No sorry, tomorrow is thanksgiving, right?
yeah
there are some extra review in it for you if you do
Noice
Ok I'm on it
19:08
cheers mate
Right, so they got back to me, and they said they're trying, but while you wait just read some net neutrality drama or something
They hit me up with this, pretty juicy stuff
Ah, wonderful! I'll just do that then and wait for a bit.
Do you know what or who the freefolk are (on reddit)?
19:24
isn't that asoiaf/got theorizers?
I saw you guys talking about them the other day, thats all I know
19:57
Nah they're the leakers and rumour-ers
They basically try to find as many leaks and share them around as they can, but since it's too early for leaks they just make shitposts
This is why we can't have nice things
They're the guys behind Bobby B laser eyes, and their latest fad is DanyxJon a$$ eating or something
I'm excited for leaks
Although I'll keep this place clean
20:11
@Edlothiad why though?
I don't like sitting there nervously
When I know somethings going to happen, I get to be excited for the build up and the set up
Then I know if that was disappointing or not
For example, I'd read on SFF that Viserion was going to die, didn't tell my brother, we watched it, and I was looking at the set up, and I was like oh this is it they're going north, they're trapped here come the dragons
getting to look at the details
and he was like "well how's this going to work out?"
Just two different ways of enjoying content I guess
20:49
Hmm... I suppose. I prefer to watch a show/movie or read a book in ignorance. I can always watch/read it again. But I can only have the joy of discovery once.
I took that long you got it?
21:10
@amflare I guess so, I probably won't go actively reading any plot leaks or anything heavy, but I don't get upset when I've been "spoiled"

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