@Erics - Do you mean one design to summarise the snapshot of top questions depending on the sort criteria (with one row per question and detail of the last person active on that question) vs the more detailed all questions page design which also includes the first two lines of the question under the title and the detail of the poster?
@Erics Interesting. I've never noticed that. It must be because the Questions page has more detail for each question. (it includes a snippet of the body of the question, as well as the asker's avatar and badge count.)
hmm - not sure we can get that message back - the text doesn't appear in the inbox history - we need someone to earn it first time and check it out :-)
Should I allow users to input the MMDDYY or MMDDYYYY format for a date? That is, should any date validation logic not trigger a validation error if the user just wants to put in the numbers without any separation symbols (period, dash, slash)?
On a side note why would you want people to enter a date as 091011 anyway, unless you had separated fields? I've never heard of anyone entering dates like that
well - I'm pretty busy at the moment - and I was also starting to get concerned about the time spent answering questions - especially with cited examples etc.
I set myself a target - I would get the 100 consecutive days badge, and try to average 100 rep per day, and at least a third of my answers accepted - that was my own 'game' - then I'd ease off a bit because it was taking up too much time.
@RogerAttrill UX and HCI have learned a whooole lot from video games, and video games have learned a lot from cognitive psychology. It's a very effective system when done right
I haven't peeked at statup much, I directed an business student friend there though
well having been to a few networking events - I find people running start-ups very interested in how they can use other people to help their cause. Whereas UX people are very interested in how they can improve things for other people. Sometimes the two don't mix because the reasons for engagement are different
I wish, not many people in Iowa even know what it is, hence my current job. I intend to head out to California where I can at least get a job where people respect it
I know a lot of women who work in UX full time (more than guys actually). And women are supposed to be more "sociable" (whatever that means). Strange that there are so few in here
@MattRockwell: some are interesting, but I think there are too many people into the whole "coolness" factor of a startup
@JohnGB I remember trying that and didn't find much that looked good, I was looking for summer work though, I guess I'm more attractive with HCI and Psych degrees and a job...
I still remember eleventy hundred applications per job there though
Say I was hired by a store to put up Facebook account. Since I do not know who are the people that could be connected to the store, I put up a Facebook profile so I can add friends. This is against Facebook terms and conditions that only individual should put up a profile account. My strat is whe...
@JohnGB - I'd been thinking about oDesk to get a few gap-filler jobs - and to just try them out and see how it really works - would you recommend them then? Have you tried similar sites or only oDesk?
@MattRockwell That's not at all how I see it. She's asking if it's okay to use Facebook in the way she wants to do it. That's a question for a Facebook forum. That's not a UX question.
@JohnGB That is the problem with both of those sites. They completely undervalue the providers because of people doing this sort of thing. I've been on both of them for several years, and almost every person that posts jobs out there is looking for high-quality work at prices that offshore development farms would lose money on.
@RogerAttrill As I just said above, if you are looking to actually get anywhere near your normal rate from either oDesk or eLance, good luck. I've gotten a couple of jobs there, but hardly worth the effort.
@MattRockwell You are reading WAY more into that than what is there. Nowhere does it say anything like that at all.
@MattRockwell It could be thought of like that, but the primary UX considerations were handled by FB when they created the Pages feature. It's what it's for.
@JohnGB Not if you see their average rates. Almost no one makes "good money" from those sites. They may make a lot of money, but those are almost all Indian development farms disguising themselves as individuals.
@CharlesBoyung Not sure if those 2 sites are anything like Sitepoint or and of the logo farming sites, but if they are, they are awful and harm their respective industries as a whole
@JohnGB Exactly. And those people that are doing well for themselves on there probably spend twice as much time trying to find and get jobs there as they would with many other means.
ya, and they give off the perception that the industry, whatever one that may be is cheaper than it really is, which devalues the whole industry's competetive rates
@JohnGB Yeah - a wide range of ui stuff really - desktop and embedded application design and development (C++, Qt), graphics (2D, 3D and augmented reality), icon suites, ux/usability audits, application redesign for aged/ailing/wayward products. Basically I spent the previous 12 years working for an outsourced development team, working on diverse projects in equally diverse industries...
@CharlesBoyung: you are making statements that are logically impossible to refute. To me that makes the discussion fruitless, so I will stop at this point.
as I posted on a question of the graphicdesign.se site on spec work sites:
When participating in these logo contests, you are devaluing the design industry as a whole. Also it gives off the perception that logos can be "ready made", with the ability to simply change the name and have it work. There is a LOT of hard work, research, and unique consideration that should be taken into account when creating a great logo. Even if you decide that you would like to work for pennies, think about the greater implications of bringing down the industry as whole.
Example, "Why would I pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for a logo from you, when I could go to this site, have…
I use those sites, but I won't devalue myself. I use the same rates I use for any other client. Very few clients on those sites will ever be willing to pay those rates. If the people you know are really that good, then they would have the same problem.
@JohnGB Just ask those people that you know what their hourly rate comes out to for projects they get on those sites and compare it to the rates they get to projects via other means. I would bet you that it's going to be significantly lower for each one of them.
@JohnGB Nope, but I've worked with plenty that do. For example, India. Invariably, the highest quality developers from India that I've worked with are the ones that now live in Europe or the US - They all leave India because they can make much more money that way.
@JohnGB Ok gotcha, the only problem I have with these types of sites is when people charge lesser rates on the site than they would and should charge normally
@CharlesBoyung what I think John means with the 70 vs 10 is that their rate sin the going area are far less, but on oDesk they can break beyond those barriers. For example getting a New York City pay while telecommuting from Connecticut
@JohnGB Exactly how are they "ignorant and bigoted"? It is all based on facts. Someone is getting $70/hour for software development vs. $10/hour for office work is like me saying that it's valid to say that I would only get $8/hour to work at McDonalds is a valid comparison to my rates for software development. Completely ridiculous and idiotic.
@MattRockwell If he meant it was the same type of work, then why would he make that last comment instead of just saying that they would be doing the same work for far less via other means?
I highly doubt that any developer that can make $70 an hour via online means would be limited to $10 an hour doing software development, even if they WERE working at one of those offshoring companies. The good ones do get paid fairly well, even at those companies.
I sort of wondered why the SE badge system encourages flagging instead of closing...I don't even know if we get anything for close votes, but you have to flag for weeks for the flag weight badges....and be right to boot, I believe
I think we should have a badge ( or a set of badges) for the users who close a sufficient number of questions. Closing question is a form of community service and therefore deserves rewards.
Note: Now don't try to close this question in the name of illustrating the irony :)!
@PatrickMcElhaney Huh, looks like it was pretty much ignored
@JohnGB Well if that's the case the flag stuff would have been a big problem too, the only difference is flags are approved by moderators. The spam would still exist though
This links heavily into the following question:
What are some great web-based prototyping tools?
However I didn't want to limit the suggestions to "Web Based" tools, I have found and used the following tools for prototyping, wireframing and mockups in the past with some success:
Balsamiq
Sk...
What do we have to do to get an answer flagged automatically?
"I am prince Iban el Ghamni from Nigeria. I need you help in getting 40 trillion dollars out the country. For a small sum of only $10,000 I will give you 10% of this.
The algorithm is written down on a scrap of paper and stored in a vault in SEHQ. Only two trusted SE employees have the combination, which according to legend is Jeff's birthday in the form MMYYDD.
@PatrickMcElhaney Are you guys (the moderators) actively watching for close votes then? Because our community is not nearly large enough to regularly get the number of votes needed to close off-topic items. Most of the time, closed items only happen because a moderator comes in after at least one vote/flag in order to close it. I can probably count on one hand the number of questions here that have gotten the full five close votes.
@MattRockwell I knew we could agree on something :)
@PatrickMcElhaney That's the reason that I've flagged things that should be closed - to help you guys see the off-topic questions so you don't need to watch everything.
Should I allow users to input the MMDDYY or MMDDYYYY format for a date? That is, should any date validation logic not trigger a validation error if the user just wants to put in the numbers without any separation symbols (period, dash, slash)?
I think we should have a badge ( or a set of badges) for the users who close a sufficient number of questions. Closing question is a form of community service and therefore deserves rewards.
Note: Now don't try to close this question in the name of illustrating the irony :)!
This links heavily into the following question:
What are some great web-based prototyping tools?
However I didn't want to limit the suggestions to "Web Based" tools, I have found and used the following tools for prototyping, wireframing and mockups in the past with some success:
Balsamiq
Sk...
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