Raiders of the Lost Downboat

12:21 AM

Unclear? Or maybe it could be considered a duplicate of something about why su doesn't work out-of-the-box as a non-root user on Ubuntu.

Eliah Kagan

1:42 AM

Currently unclear (but perhaps they will edit).

@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1021132/22949

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post No Code Block; Low Rep; 1.5;

Eliah Kagan

@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1021193/22949

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post No Code Block; Low Rep; Self Answer; -1.5;

Eliah Kagan

@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1021194/22949

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; Non English Post - ja; Low Rep; Self Answer; Unformatted Code; 1.0;

Eliah Kagan

1:50 AM

@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1021185/22949

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; One Line only; Low Rep; 3.0;

Bhargav Rao

@Natty ah, yeah. AU shouldn't probably have the self-answer filter.

uh, looks like I should add that command here as well.

@Nat check askubuntu.com/a/1021185/22949

Natty

@BhargavRao [ Natty ] Link to Post 5.0; Proposed comment: NAAlowrep;

Bhargav Rao

Yep, now blacklisted

Eliah Kagan

I'm not sure if this is relevant, but I do see a lot of good self-answers on AU, including self-answers that are good but might look NAA at first glance. But those particular two self-answers were instead attempts to add new information, and not to present a solution.

Bhargav Rao

1:56 AM

Yeah, on SO, Nat is tracking only the old answers, so it is very very rare that an OP comes back after 30 days to add more information. So, on SO, it'll mostly be an answer. That filter is a negative filter and shows that a post is not a NAA. Here, we're scanning all the answers, so it is not useful having that filter.

But as of now, Nat is still running v3, where separate filters for different sites isn't possible. Once I manage to find some time to dev, then I can get the v4 of Nat running, where it's completely customizable for different sites.

pomsky

Kinda XY-problem:

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Q: Extensions missing from Tweak Toll menu

After installing gnome-tweak-tool and gnome-shell-extensions on Ubuntu 16.04, I am still missing Extensions under Tweak Tool UI. How can I resolve this issue so I can use GNOME Extensions from https://extensions.gnome.org/ on my Chrome or Firefox? sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool sudo apt-...

OP has Unity, but complains GNOME extensions are not working/available. I believe that's the expected behaviour.

Eliah Kagan

2:13 AM

I think you can just post an answer explaining that, then.

SmokeDetector

3:28 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Finding a stream in a radio.com URL by a deleted user on askubuntu.com

karel

5:40 AM

VLQ flagged it as VLQ

SmokeDetector

6:34 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: www.garciniacambogialean.com/turmeric-forskolin by Facce1932 on askubuntu.com

SmokeDetector

7:10 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: HowTo: Upgrade java on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? by bfhyf on askubuntu.com

Zanna

should this question be reopened?

SmokeDetector

7:43 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, +5 more: healthsupplementzone.com/hermusa-cream/ by Hermusa on askubuntu.com

SmokeDetector

8:01 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: getnutritionshelp.com/enduraflex/ by mjdwxvxut on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +3 more: www.weightloss-spot.com/luna-trim/ by Throas1950 on askubuntu.com

Eliah Kagan

10:03 AM

@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1021224/22949

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; One Line only; Low Rep; Unregistered User; 4.0;

Eliah Kagan

@BhargavRao This post is intended as a success report (basically a thanks post) but the surrounding context is necessary to discern that. It's NAA and I flagged it as such on the site. But should posts like that be reported to Natty as NAA?

Bhargav Rao

@EliahKagan tricky. On SO, we prefer custom flags for those, so we don't flag them as NAA (and therefore no report to Nat). But on AU, if you're flagging as NAA, then do report them.

Eliah Kagan

OK.

@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1021237/22949

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; One Line only; Low Rep; 3.0;

Bhargav Rao

10:09 AM

Also, (unrelated), I've been seeing some errors while calling API for AU, but nothing while calling the API for SO. There's something amiss, but I'm not able to find out what it is. I'll check the code again, tomorrow.

@Natty things like these should have been detected automatically.

Eliah Kagan

Should link-only answers similarly be reported to Natty? Sometimes one can fix them by adding information from the linked source. This post is flaggable, but if someone wanted to watch the whole video (it doesn't appear to be spam or anything) and decide if it's worthwhile to write a summary...

@BhargavRao Is that related to the errors accessing AU through the SE API? (It's the same API, right?)

Bhargav Rao

@EliahKagan yep, report LOAs as well. That helps me tune the link only detection.

Eliah Kagan

OK, will do.

@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1021268/22949

Bhargav Rao

It is the same API, but I dunno why SO one is working, but AU one is throwing errors. I should probably log them properly.

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; Possible Link Only; No Code Block; One Line only; Low Rep; Contains Whitelisted Word - Hope this helps; 4.5;

Bhargav Rao

10:13 AM

Oopsie, again ^

karel

OT Fedora + Kali

Bhargav Rao

Anyway, I need to get going. See ya all tomo. I hope I get some idea about why this might happen. :/

Eliah Kagan

Cya! Good luck debugging. :)

@karel Thanks -- closed.

Unclear

SmokeDetector

10:32 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: every person who experience like Enduraflex by tvdugeno on askubuntu.com

SmokeDetector

10:53 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Turmeric Rapid Diet + Forskolin by Michaelren on askubuntu.com

SmokeDetector

11:21 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Why is my ubuntu slow and unstable, and how can i solve it? by jammer-buy on askubuntu.com

SmokeDetector

12:09 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: healthcaresupchat.com/max-peak-xl/ by Drut1993 on askubuntu.com

muru

1:42 PM

Closing this as anything but a dupe will result in a rejected migration and a lock here:

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Q: Ubuntu apt-get update

I'm trying to run the railsbridge installfest but when i ran it i got errors that claimed ubuntu servers could not be reached. I ran apt-get update as suggested and it threw me the following errors Ign:1 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty InRelease Ign:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ...

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Natty

2:17 PM

[ Natty | Sentinel ] 16.04 Ubuntu 16.04 hangs on shutdown, suspend, when left idle for sometime By: eggegg 4.0;

Eliah Kagan

@Natty tp

Eliah Kagan

3:48 PM

@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1021303/22949

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; Low Rep; Contains Whitelisted Word - You can; 1.0;

Eliah Kagan

5:09 PM

This edit is correct.

This one is good, too.

Zanna

6:53 PM

@muru ugh that happened...

my bad

Eliah Kagan

8:00 PM

@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1021382/22949

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Contains ?; Low Length; No Code Block; One Line only; Piled symbols - ???; Low Rep; 5.0;

Eliah Kagan

@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1021353/22949

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; Possible Link Only; No Code Block; Low Rep; Self Answer; 1.5;

pomsky

10:14 PM

Is this not a spam?

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Q: MobyDroid - Android Device Manager (for Linux, Windows and MacOS)

MobyDroid is a simple and cross-platform Android Devices Manager. It runs on any operating system with Java support (Mac OS X, Windows, Linux, BSD, Solaris...). THIS IS JUST A BETA RELEASE ! I have been running linux from while now. And what I noticed is there is no GUI Android Devices Manager ...

java android gui adb

(just because OP added a disclosure...)

Eliah Kagan

I think it does qualify as spam, yes.

I have commented to let them know that they should not post it here, since they seemed unsure about that in the post. They will probably delete it. But I have also flagged it as spam. There have been far less brazen instances of borderline spam that were deleted as spam, so I feel like it would not be reasonable to hold off flagging spam in this case. If they delete the post themselves before it is deleted as spam, then I believe the system will not penalize them for spamming.

pomsky

Strangely, someone upvoted it and countered my downvote.

Eliah Kagan

I've expanded my comment.

Eliah Kagan

10:52 PM

When Natty posted that, shouldn't it have posted a message for it in this room, too? @BhargavRao

Byte Commander

11:08 PM

Oh, so you got Natty in here since I last checked.

Nice.

Bhargav Rao

@EliahKagan Nopes, I've added that for debubugging that other problem. The ones without [ | Sentinel ], don't take any feedback.

Eliah Kagan

@BhargavRao Ah, I see. Thanks -- sorry to bother you about it.

Bhargav Rao

np. Still trying to figure out what's the issue :/

Eliah Kagan

So... that post has been around a while, even since we flagged it. Perhaps people aren't comfortable flagging it as spam. If it's not going to be deleted by the OP or as spam, then maybe we should go ahead and vote to close it? (cc @pomsky)

pomsky

11:37 PM

@EliahKagan Since we flagged as a spam, the ball's in moderators' court now, innit?

But we can also close as unclear (?) as a pre-emptive measure and later delete it. Should we do that?

Eliah Kagan

If nothing else happens, a moderator will (eventually) handle the flag, yes. But many spam flags are handled automatically by the system when enough of them are received to delete the post without moderator action. Also, if the post is deleted for another reason, then that, too, will clear the spam flags, usually marking them helpful.

@pomsky I'm not sure if it's best to take any other action. I do think it would be acceptable for us to cast close votes on the question.

pomsky

okay, as unclear?

Eliah Kagan

That would be okay, but I think off-topic -> not about Ubuntu would be better.

The software they're (perhaps in some sense unintentionally) spamming about supposedly would run on Ubuntu, but it's not a question about Ubuntu, and it doesn't even appear to be specifically directed toward Ubuntu users.

pomsky

aye, aye. cap'n. VTC-ed as OT.

Eliah Kagan

:)

I really don't know what's best here. So I hope I'm not coming across as a reliable source of best practices in this matter.

pomsky

11:44 PM

Something unrelated, today I found out there's a daily cap on number of comment-upvotes (unrelated to votes on posts). I tried to upvote your comment. but it said daily limit is reached. Never noticed that before!

Eliah Kagan

Yeah, the limit for comment upvotes is 30. And it includes comment upvotes that the system casts for us automatically when we vote to close a question as a duplicate, it's not the fifth close vote, and there is already an automatic "Possible duplicate" comment for the same target.

pomsky

Aha, now it makes sense.

Eliah Kagan

This edit is correct and should be approved, even though the edit summary is really bad (and may result in it getting rejected, which is why I'm mentioning it here -- but please do check it over yourself first before approving, as usual, if you choose to review it).

@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1021445/22949

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Contains ?; Low Length; No Code Block; One Line only; Low Rep; Unregistered User; 4.5;

Eliah Kagan

@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1021439/22949

Natty

11:54 PM

[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; One Line only; Low Rep; 2.5;

Eliah Kagan

@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1021376/22949

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; One Line only; Low Rep; Contains Salutation - Thanks; Unregistered User; 5.5;

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