Vedanta and Philosophy

Pandya

03:00

@Yogi simply look at the link/address of image and you'll find it is from Wikipedia.

Sree Charan

04:46

@Pandya The two persons standing beside Nammalwar are Madhurakavi Alwar to the right of Nammalwar and Nathamunigal to the left of Nammalwar.

The Destroyer

05:25

hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/17737/…

@Pandya @KeshavSrinivasan @SreeCharan @SwiftPushkar @Tezz Should we undelete this answer?

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Links he added are not working. 404 error.

> And so it is thinkable why considerable anti-Brahmin organizations support honorable Narendra Dabholkar when he was Brahmin

The Destroyer

Yeah.

Sree Charan

Seriously, do Brahmins blindly support who are brahmins what ever they do? This ain't right. Brahmins do not support anyone blindly. It applies to all Hindus.

There are many brahmin born rationalists and so called intellectuals who misinterpret scriptures and anti hindus. We don't support them either.

Pandya

@KeshavSrinivasan @SreeCharan @Yogi I've just posted a question related to Nammalwar's works:

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Q: Connection of Nammalwar's work with Sanskrit Vedas

Nammalwar was one of the Alwars (Tamil:ஆழ்வார், Hindi: आलवार), a group of 12 ancient Tamil saints known for their poetry of 4000 verses in praise of Vishnu and preaching Sharanangati. These 4000 verses were later compiled by Natha Muni as Naliyara Divya Prabandham which is considered alike or equ...

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan he is targetting Brahmins in his posts.

Sree Charan

05:38

> आकाशात् पतितं तोयं यथा गच्छति सागरम् ।
सर्व फ़्लाग परिष्कारं केशवं प्रतिगच्छति ॥ As the water that falls down in rain from anywhere in the sky finally reaches the Ocean, all flags will reach Keshav Srinivasan.

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Pandya

@SreeCharan Yes, popular Sanskrit Shubashita

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Q: What is the source of this famous verse?

आकाशात् पतितं तोयं यथा गच्छति सागरम् । सर्वदेवनमस्कारं केशवं प्रतिगच्छति ॥ ākāśāt patitaṃ toyaṃ yathā gacchati sāgaram । sarvadevanamaskāraṃ keśavaṃ pratigacchati ॥ Meaning: As the water that falls down in rain from anywhere in the sky finally reaches the Ocean, the worship ...

scripture verse

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan @Yogi @TheDestroyer @Pandya @SwiftPushkar @KrishnShweta ^^

Ha Ha...

Pandya

@TheDestroyer I think it is better to lock that question as it can create disputes. /cc @KeshavSrinivasan

Sree Charan

@Pandya I modified the shloka... :D

Pandya

@SreeCharan ok

@SreeCharan "सर्व फ़्लाग परिष्कारं केशवं प्रतिगच्छति ॥" "all flags will reach Keshav Srinivasan". Haha

The Destroyer

05:49

@Pandya lol.

Sree Charan

@Pandya @TheDestroyer I found this humourous so added. No offense to you both.

Pandya

@SreeCharan The source of modified verse (composed by Sree Charan)! Haha

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan Me and @Pandya should recite recite Tri Vajra Upanishad for getting more flags.

Sree Charan

I tried sanskrit word for flag but it is altering the chandas.

The Destroyer

@TheDestroyer Now check I've updated link. It's working. — Swapnil 8 mins ago

@SreeCharan @Pandya

Sree Charan

05:52

@SwiftPushkar @TheDestroyer People sacrifice Rams, Bulls too.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan Yeah.

But i was shocked to know pigs.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer We might need the help of @SwiftPushkar and @Yogi to understand the link

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan Yes. They are Maratis. They can only help us. @SwiftPushkar already said his opinion.

Pandya

@SreeCharan Thanks for the correction to the Tamil words in my questions. Actually I can't read any single word of Tamil :( Btw, also tried to find information about Nammalwar in Hindi but I didn't find anything.

Sree Charan

@Pandya You're welcome. Naal means four and aayiram means 1000. Naalayiram means 4000.

Pandya

05:56

@SreeCharan Actually I need help of person who can speak both Tamil and Hindi in order to get the exact pronunciation. Can you speak in Hindi? /cc @TheDestroyer @Yogi

@SreeCharan Ok

The Destroyer

@Pandya Thoda thoda aati..

Sree Charan

@Pandya Yogi can speak Hindi but not Tamil.

Pandya

Google fails

@TheDestroyer I mean one (whom I'm looking for) should be able to write Hindi in Devanagari :p

The Destroyer

@Pandya Me and @SreeCharan can help you. Sree charan can help you as he can speak Hindi fluently with good knowledge on Tamil.

Pandya

@SreeCharan and you?

The Destroyer

05:59

@TheDestroyer So does my source prove my answer wasn't vain? — Swapnil 4 mins ago

Pandya

@TheDestroyer Btw, I don't think that question much related to Dharma/Hinduims, It looks historical/ Aitihasika for me.

Sree Charan

@Pandya Why do you want to know tamil to know the exact pronunciation of Tiruvay mozhi or the meaning of whole tiruvaymozhi?

Pandya

@SreeCharan It's also a good idea :) but it can take a time. Can you write the Hindi equivalent word for it for now?

Sree Charan

@Pandya :) I can't speak tamil. I can help you with the pronunciation of Tiruvaymozhi only. There are many commentaries and translations of Tiruvaymozhi in english too.

Pandya

@SreeCharan oh! you can't speak tamil. I think it is a challenging task to find one in this room who can speak and write both Tamil and Hindi

Sree Charan

06:06

@Pandya तिरुवायमोलि....मो with a short mo.

Pandya

@SreeCharan ok. I was pronouncing it as तिरुवैमोलि

Sree Charan

@Pandya zh is a mixture of l and r.

@Pandya See this song when the singer says azhage.

Pandya

@SreeCharan we're talking about Thiruvaimoli right? yes, Thiruvaimozhi might be different pronunciation

@SreeCharan Btw, How did you get that I'll ask you about zh?

The Destroyer

@Pandya Tamil has a unique letter pronounced as "zh" l and r. Even it is not Tamil but Tamizh..

Pandya

@SreeCharan ^^ are you Antaryami? Haha

The Destroyer

06:10

When i was in chennai, northies had problem in speaking "zh".

Sree Charan

@Pandya HaHa...

Pandya

@SreeCharan तिरुवैमो**रि** right? /cc @TheDestroyer

Sree Charan

@Pandya There is no equivalent in hindi or english with the letter zh. So it is hard to pronounce.

Pandya

@SreeCharan oh! Hmm... every language has it's own pronunciation of which equivalent other languages can't achieve! Haha

Sree Charan

@Pandya Listen to the sing I linked. You will know. तिरुवायमोzhi will be the right one. Haha...

@Pandya Yes. it is the beauty of the language. every language is unique.

Pandya

06:17

@SreeCharan Yes, and based on that I would rank English at last :p Haha

@SreeCharan I'm just trying to listen. Can you give me the time (second) where pronunciation of zh occur in that song?

Sree Charan

@Pandya English is a mixture of Sanskrit, latin, french, hindi,.. what not? everything.

@Pandya Read the subtitiles. Just where I shared. 49, 50 seconds. It sounds like arage... But it is azhage.

Pandya

@SreeCharan for me, English is just A B C D....Z it is not eligible to qualify as an language! Haha /cc @TheDestroyer

Sree Charan

There is a distinction when he sings azhage and malare.

Pandya

@SreeCharan Yes, I just listen the pronunciation written for azhakeee..... yes, it looks airakil for azhakit. Thnaks

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Good knowledge of Tamil? Me? Thanks for your faith on me. I can't speak it.

@Pandya See this for more clarity.

Yogi

06:45

@Pandya Nice Question Will try to answer as much as I can.

@Pandya I can speak Hindi, but my tamil not so good, but yeah I am ready to help whenever needed...Its BhAgwta Kainkaryam after all...

Yogi

07:04

@Pandya actually the word 'zha' is similar to (ळ) which appears in RG 1.1.1 agnim ile(इळे) its different from 'इले' very different...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari#Biconsonantal_conjuncts

@Pandya The very first verse of Tiruvaimozhi is similar to/resembles Nyasa Vidya(meditation on Louts feet of Bhagwan) See page no of 5 of this book archive.org/details/Thiruvaimozhi_english_commentry

"My mind lift yourself up to the Dazzaling feet of the One who is lord of ever alert eternal heros"

The Destroyer

07:22

Yahoo.. My Chrome bug solved..

Pandya

08:23

@SreeCharan Yes, it clears nicely

@Yogi Thanks

@TheDestroyer Congratulation!

@TheDestroyer ~~Yahoo~~ Google.... My Chrome bug solved :p Haha

Sree Charan

@Pandya HaHa.. Good one.

The Destroyer

08:47

@Pandya haha.

SwiftPushkar

@Rickross - Found one Sukta in Atharvaveda Samhita part 1 , the sukta is called Rastra Abivardhan Sukta book 1 sukta 29 ,which also have some shlokas about patriotism.

अभीवर्तेन मणिना येनेन्द्रो अभिवावृधे । तेनास्मान ब्रह्मणस्पतेSभि राष्ट्राय वर्धय ॥123॥

सपत्नक्षयणो वृषाभिराष्ट्रो विषासहि: । यथाहमेषां विराणाम विराजानि जनस्य च ॥ 128॥

Atharvaveda Samhita part -1 , 29 Rastra Abhivardhan sukta (developement of nation) Verse 123& 128

This translation is in Hindi , I don't know you can read or understand hindi or not but i will try to find english translation also.So if u want you can add these shlokas in your answer😊👍

Sree Charan

09:11

@SwiftPushkar The OP meant only asked about Rama in the question. I am undecided on VTC.

IS that a duplicate?

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - Yes , you are somewhat right ,but the previous question also covers Rama-Avatara , so its like this question already has been answered , but let's see wht others view on this , and then we will decide😊👍👍

Sree Charan

@SwiftPushkar I am not saying it is not duplicate. Let's see.

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - yeah , i will retract the close vote if necessary 😊👍👍

Sree Charan

@SwiftPushkar Don't do that.

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - ok , lets wait for a day or two 😊

Sree Charan

09:18

I thought to VTC it first. but waited. THen you did it.

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - ok , similar thing happened with me , I was planning to ask question about chariot of sun since from long , but thought that its a easy question , but u asked it , 😊👍👍 also 2-3 similar instances happened about close vote wirh me also👍

Sree Charan

@SwiftPushkar I thought to ask the question of Janma na jaayate sudrah.. Rickross asked it. It happens to all.😊😊

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - 😀Yeah , seems there is some connection in-between us ☸

Sree Charan

@SwiftPushkar Hmmm. 😀(Don't know what to reply)

SwiftPushkar

09:36

@SreeCharan -😀😀 I think there is no appropriate reply to this , Hmm is only we can do in such a cases 😀😀

Sree Charan

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A: If Aryabhata invented zero in Kaliyuga, how could Hindus of earlier yugas describe Ravana as having 10 heads and Kauravas were 100 in number?

Mahabharatha gives a quantitative description of the number of army contingents (Akshauhnees), their individual strengths, commander's rank for which strength of army (Athiradha, Maharatha etc) etc.When bridge to Lanka was made there was numerical estimate of number of days it would take to buil...

@TheDestroyer @SwiftPushkar @Keshav See the answer below this one. Why did the OP they conclude like that?

I meant the deleted one

The Destroyer

15:35

@KeshavSrinivasan

@TheDestroyer Didn't reply me on what if source is authentic or not. Is authenticate knowledge site policy or something? Is it depend up on yourself to claim what is an authentic? — Swapnil 7 mins ago

Should we undelete it?

He cited some book from Marata Seva Sangh.

Rickross

15:54

@SwiftPushkar Yes i know as i am now studying the AV and RV Samhitas in some detail. When i read that mantra i was thinking how to post it here because i really liked it. And i found that question by Amit Saxena.

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