Vedanta and Philosophy

yubraj

04:01

Hi everyone! Good morning!

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Q: Is it possible to lose the power of Kali after once gained?

My uncle gained kali power 1 years ago automatically while worshiping in Kali Kamaru mandir. It came up into his body automatically without doing any kali sadhana. It was the mandir of Kali kamaru mai(Ban kali) in a jungle. At that moment, his body treambled a lot and became uncontrolleable for s...

The Destroyer

04:25

@yubraj Namaste! This is opinion based question as exact problem of your uncle is not known. I think Kali maa entered into your uncle previously and now she is not coming into your uncle's body. What scientifically entering the body means, our Chakras get activated for certain amount of time and our Consciousness expands and Kali Maa or any Higher Consciousness beings communicate with us. But normal people can't bear that energy of Kunadalini. So, they wobble.

@yubraj For some people their Negative Karmas deactivate Chakras immediately. I think for a reason, Kali Maa is not communicating with your uncle. Only Kaali Maa and your Uncle know the reason.

@ChinmayaB That theory is debunked.

@ChinmayaB Did you read any book of Rajiv Malhotra?

Sree Charan

06:14

@SwiftPushkar Jai Sreemannarayana. शुभोदय

SwiftPushkar

@ChinmayaB 😊💐🌙 haha i know abt that ➡chandra core tikali ( चंद्र टिकली) we can see Jijamata , Rani laxami bai with that bindi.Also.It's typical marathi bindi, mostly related to royal's in past.But now a days all marathi girls (for fashion or during events & festivals) apply this tikali or bindi , I simply love that bindi. I think those royal's maratha's were worshiper's or Devi Bhavani and lord shiva , so this bindi may be also symbol of that.

@SreeCharan - नमस्ते 💐😊शुभ दिनं 👍

Sree Charan

So did you prepare the answer for navagraha worship?

SwiftPushkar

@ChinmayaB - I wasn't aware of this "Urdhwapundra " thing , but only were knowing that this style of applying kumkum is mostly done by Kshatriyas kings , Royals., Queens etc.👍👍👍 ,we will find mote abt that in scriptures😊

@SreeCharan - Yes , its ready from yesterday ,when i asked ,but again that will be a partial answer , not mentioning any thing whether its a vedic trad.or not , even i have compiled shlokas abt.Surya ,Soma and Brahaspati ftom Rug-veda yesterday😊

Sree Charan

06:31

@TheDestroyer Did you see this video about Changanti and Yadav controversy? It's Very well discussed. Also your question varnas are birth based or guna based is also discussed by our ex- DGP aravainda rao.

Yadavas Community Demands Chaganti Apology | Top Story #1 | TV5 News

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What was your family occupation since generations @TheDestroyer ?

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan My grandfather was farmer. i don't about my ancestors.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Did you watch the video?

कृषि गौरक्षवाणिज्यं वैश्यकर्म स्वभावजम् This was the verse our Ex-DGP talked about.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan Yeah.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Watch the full video if you have time. That was one of the best discussions I have seen in recent times.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan I saw the other discussion in ABN. I will watch this too.

Chinmaya B

07:01

@TheDestroyer No I don

No I don't read Rajiv Malhotra never heard of him.

Many believe Aryan invasion theory to be trye

true.

@SwiftPushkar Yeah I came across the Crescent moon Urdhwapundra in some Vaishnava website which quoted from a Dharma Shastra. And yeah it is only prescribed for Kshatriyas, I have seen such urdhwapundras in many telugu films like Baahubali and Rudramadevi.

Sree Charan

@ChinmayaB Jai Sreemannarayana. I think Aryans as higher born and Davidians as lower caste is a baseless claim by people whose intention is creating racism in India.

@ChinmayaB Do you watch telugu movies?

Chinmaya B

So I believe that the Crescent moon Urdhwapundra is universal and not exclusive to Maharastra or Maharastrian culture although it is more practised in Maharshtra

@SreeCharan Jai Shriman Naryana, yes I watch a lot of south indian movies and I like Telugu movies as they are outstanding.

Sree Charan

I was shown a video about the history of India and castes when I was in my school. In that animated video, the speaker says Rama, Krishna who were born in North India are Aryan race and Ravana and other demons are dravidians.

SwiftPushkar

@ChinmayaB @TheDestroyer @SreeCharan - i think previously the word " Varga" (वर्ग) was there instead of Varna (वर्ण) ,later that changed to varga changed to varna , its my guess 😊

Chinmaya B

@SreeCharan Yeah that's the bullshit they give I think it is totally illogical, but there is certain reality I think manusmriti imposes a restriction on Crossing vindhyas.

@SwiftPushkar I think you are wrong because varna is popular everywhere from Shruti's to dharma shastras.

SwiftPushkar

07:11

@ChinmayaB - Yes just a thought , i know this argument is weak , a hypothesis kind😊

Chinmaya B

@SwiftPushkar Okay

@user1952500 Hi I am yogi

Sree Charan

@SwiftPushkar I don't think because there is a shloka in BG "chaturvarnyam mayasrushtam". So it is there. Varna is based on work they do and guna they possess. But the caste is a social development which is created not before 2000 years(a guess).

@user1952500 Hello..

Chinmaya B

@SreeCharan You don't believe in Birth based varna?

Sree Charan

@ChinmayaB I do.

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - yes , i know ,i am well aware of gita ,but i heard the word Chatur varga in some ancient mantra , so guessed 😊

Chinmaya B

07:17

@SwiftPushkar @SreeCharan Here take a look at Apte Search

sanskritdictionary.com/…

Sree Charan

But there are some ignorant and idiotic people out there who think caste is prescribed in dharmashastras and BG. They themselves restricted to study puranas eventhough there is no restrictions.

Chinmaya B

@SwiftPushkar If you are comfortable to answer then can you tell me which varna you belong to?

Sree Charan

Jan 4 at 8:20, by SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - Shukla Yajurveda , Maadhyandin shakha

@ChinmayaB This is the shakha of @SwiftPushkar

Chinmaya B

@SreeCharan Okay thanks

Sree Charan

@user1952500 Do you also want to know the meaning of Astika and nastika according to our scriptures? If yes, you may clarify that in the question.

Chinmaya B

07:23

@SreeCharan Here is relevant meaning of the word Varna sanskritdictionary.com/… from apte @SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan Do you know which is the oldest matham in Sri Rangam?

SwiftPushkar

@ChinmayaB - According to Guna theory & considering age and social background , i think my Varna is "Kshatriya" but i am of Brahman varna by birth.😊 and i believe all 3 Gunas & qualities of all varna is in diif. proportions are present in each any every man , and those gunas come out according to need , situations etc.so a person shows qualities of diff.varnas in diff.times 😊

Chinmaya B

@SwiftPushkar You are correct about different prorportions of gunas in every 'body' but at the same time it is true that one guna pervades and that is determined by your birth.

SwiftPushkar

@ChinmayaB - Yes , 👍👍👍👍correct , that one guna is prominently visible since childhood in each human , i think these varnas did not only belong to hinduism but that is universal theory...

Chinmaya B

@SwiftPushkar Yeah they are universal as Bramha created every human with gunas but due to ignorance humans began to fall from their varna.

SwiftPushkar

Hey will be back in some time🔙⏳ 😉 uptill that enjoy➡ 🍬🍫 sweets😀

Sree Charan

07:30

@ChinmayaB for performing initiation? There is a matham which was established by Manavala mahamuni.

But I don't know which matham is that. @KeshavSrinivasan would be helpful I think.

Chinmaya B

@SreeCharan Yeah for performing initiation.

Keshav is unaware of that as well btw there is a chinna jeeyar matham there.

user1952500

@Sree

@SreeCharan, sorry I did not know where the Chat Button was

Chinmaya B

@SreeCharan en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Vaishnavism#Mutts

Sree Charan

@ChinmayaB Yeah there is. You may select your matham.

@user1952500 Why sorry?

Chinmaya B

@SreeCharan Yeah I know I have full freedom to choose b/w thenakali and vadakalai mathams

user1952500

07:33

Heh, just meant that I did not respond earlier due to that...was expecting a chat box at the bottom

Chinmaya B

@user1952500 Is your internet slow?

Sree Charan

@user1952500 No problem.

user1952500

no...I was not on my laptop

was getting notifications on my mobile

and it's painful typing there

hi @ChinmayaB

Chinmaya B

@user1952500 Yeah this site has poor performance on cellphones.

user1952500

Didn't know of chat-room existence in StackExchange..usually in SO it's more of a 1:1 chat

So will we discuss about Nastika and Astika ?

I have a physical copy of Apte here, let me dig it up

Chinmaya B

07:37

@SreeCharan I thought that 72 Simhasanadhi pati leinage still existed but as saddened to know that it is discontinued.

@user1952500 ARe you a philosopher?!

or a sanskrit scholar?

@SreeCharan @TheDestroyer Baahubali new poster for FANs ! goo.gl/images/ZGekqr @SwiftPushkar Interested?

Sree Charan

ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/nov2000/0044.html Here is the list of simhasanadhipatis

user1952500

It says:
Nastika: An atheist, unbeliever, one who denies the authority of the Vedas and a future life or the existence of a supreme ruler or creator of the universe

@ChinmayaB I have spent inordinate times studying both but cannot say I am a scholar in each, as I have not yet spent the prescribed 40 years learning Vedas :)

Well, so how does one word have so many meanings ? It's essentially the case with many old words in languages. They evolve with time and more meanings get attached. Ultimately the colloquial meaning of something is quite different from the actual definition.

An example is mamsa, which colloquially means flesh. One possible definition from Manu Smriti is maam-sah :me(in second vibhakti meaning object)-he

He attributes it to mean that if I eat something, that will eat me in a later life.

But one would not find this in a Dictionary

There are thousands of such words which have diverged quite a bit.

Another example is "paddhati" which means custom.

It actually means 'pada hatihi' meaning 'killed by foot' or 'trodden by foot'. It originally meant the trail that was created by many people walking.

SwiftPushkar

07:54

@ChinmayaB - unfortunately i don't much like Movies , although my fav. Hollywood Movies are children's fantasy👼👯👸

user1952500

Nobody really thinks about the original meaning though in this case, the original meaning and the colloquial meaning are very similar.

but if you see an ancient text and says 'vrishabha paddathi', and you use the dictionary to translate it as the 'customs of bulls', it could be incorrect contextually as it more likely means the 'trail of bulls'.

@ChinmayaB, if you wish to dig into sanskrit, I would advise trying to get to the roots of all the individual words, understand the various meanings and then dig deep. Wiki and dictionary are only pointers.

@ChinmayaB, as you know many schools of thought came out of how a single statement was understood in the Chandogyopanishad :)

SwiftPushkar

@user1952500 Hiii🙋 ,Which scripture asks us to learn vedas for 40 years?

user1952500

I am not very clear about it...it is one of the things that in one of Gautama's sutras I think. Learning one veda rigorously used to take 12 years in a different yuga. Since the lifespans of humans have reduced, we are not able to spend that much time in the current yuga and hence there have been substantial modifications to Manu Smriti and Gautama's abridgement as well.

Tezz

@TheDestroyer I didn't hear about that name.. where did you read it..?..

user1952500

@SwiftPushkar hence I follow Aapastambha which is a much watered down version. I believe many of us follow the same.

@SwiftPushkar, apparently even Aapastambha sutra prescribes the same 48 years

It basically says "remain in the ashrma for 48 years learning all 4, or 36 years learning 3 or... and so on.

SwiftPushkar

08:08

@user1952500 - ok 👍 , but scripture also warn's us about getting corrupted or loosing sense if one extensively study the scriptures for very long time , hence "Sanyasashram" is recommended after (,6 ,12 or 24) years after learning in gurukula.Ref.➡ Puranas , i will give u exact verse afterwards.C ant remember where i read this now😊💐

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar No. i think Varna is eternal. Varna is mentioned in Purusha Suktam which is part of Rigveda.

user1952500

@SwiftPushkar yeah, due to the age of our religion, there have been numerous scriptures, explanations, approximations, oppositions etc. It is tough to follow the right version as our religion is being reinvented on even now. I tend to willfully not study 'newer' works if possible and restrain myself to some of the older scriptures.

The Destroyer

@Tezz Vyomakesha is used for Shiva in Andhra. In Movie songs also, Shiva is described as Vyomakesha.

@Tezz You can listen in "Sivoham Song".

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - yes , but i was just guessing abt.how the word varna came into exsistance , wht was previous term for that etc😊👍and found the word varga much similar only "n" is changed

user1952500

@TheDestroyer heh, I think this is more commonly known by some of the older folks as Byomkesh of Byomkesh Bakshi

Hair pointing to the heavens :)

The Destroyer

08:12

@user1952500 Yeah. In Bengal area, "Va" is replaced with "Ba". Even Bengal's Sanskrit name is Vanga.

user1952500

So I would say maybe some Bengalis also favor the name

The Destroyer

Banga- Vanga

user1952500

yeah

Tezz

@TheDestroyer Oh I didn't know about it... maybe it means 'one who is all pervasive'...

The Destroyer

@Tezz It means who has Sky as hair. Vyoma, Kesa

Tezz

08:15

@TheDestroyer yes... Sky is all pervasive...

The Destroyer

@Tezz Is this name or attribute mentioned in Vedas?

Tezz

@TheDestroyer I'm not aware of it... at least I know Shiva is called by the name Vyuptakesha in the Vedas..

The Destroyer

Yeah. You posted Q&A

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Q: What is the story of Vyuptakesha incarnation of Lord Shiva?

Sri Rudram is the 16th chapter of Vajasaneyi Samhita, and also 4.5.1 -4.5.11 of Taittariya Samhita. There are 11 Anuvaks in total in Krishna YajurVeda. 5th Anuvaka of Sri Rudram is of specific significance. In the first paragraph of 5th Anuvaka it states: नमो भवाय च रुद्राय च। नमश्शर्वाय च प...

mahabharata shiva vedas scripture

Tezz

Yes..

The Destroyer

@user1952500 In Sanskrit, name denotes attribute. For example, Shiva denotes auspiciousness. An attribute may refer multiples things or persons. So, multiple meanings.

user1952500

08:20

yeah I agree..there are multiple problems with tatpurusha samasas

There can be many meanings but this is more of a bahuvrihi I think

Tezz

@all what do you think of edit in this question... can it be reopened now .. ?.. hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/16899/…

user1952500

Shiva is auspiciousness..shambhu is one who is ausicious etc

The Destroyer

@Tezz It was closed as his title and body are unrelated.

Tezz

'Sam' dhatu means happiness/bliss... Thus Samkara = one who gives bliss... Sambhu= one who is cause of bliss etc...

SwiftPushkar

@user1952500 ⬇

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A: What is the relationship between Hinduism and atheism?

Atheism is not the pillar of Hinduism, but only a part of Hinduism. Moreover, the term nastika (atheist) means different in Hinduism than its usual meaning. Generally atheist means a person who doesn't believe in God, afterlife, etc. But in Hinduism atheist means a person who doesn't accept the a...

The Destroyer

08:24

@Tezz yes. Sham.

Sree Charan

@Tezz You totally changed the context of the question. I think he totally changed the question. We shouldn't do so because it conflicts with author's affiliation.

Tezz

@TheDestroyer yes I know it... I think he didn't knew clear rules about posting question in SE... so he made that type of body...

Sree Charan

I think the main question was not at all about Adi shankara. It was about shiva and vishnu oneness.

The Destroyer

@Tezz ok. I voted to reopen. Who was ista Deva of Adi Shankara?

Tezz

@SreeCharan I don't think the body was useful at all "n Mahabharat when Pandavas asked for penance for their sins of killing their family members,Krishna asked them to go to Ishavra in Kedarnath as only Ishavra able to give penance for their sins. Shiva took away the right of pooja for Brahma who is one in trines not Vishnu"

@SreeCharan I think main question was about Adi Shankara... because title said it...

Sree Charan

08:26

He posted two different questions in one single question. He didn't reply to the question even though his last seen was yesterday. @Tezz

Tezz

@TheDestroyer I'm not completely sure about Ishta deva of Adi Shankara.. I think his Kula Devata was Lord Krishna...

The Destroyer

@user1952500 Are you a Sanskrit Scholar?

user1952500

@TheDestroyer thanks for the Clarification. Could you mark it as a duplicate ? I believe this is the exact answer I am looking for.

Tezz

Some say it was Devi some say Lord Krishna..

user1952500

@TheDestroyer have learnt it for a while. Not as good as I'd like to be. Maybe I'll get back to it some day.

@SwiftPushkar, sorry could u please mark it as a dup ? I misunderstood it to be @TheDestroyer.

The Destroyer

08:30

@user1952500 Swami Prabhavanada in his book "Spiritual Heritage of India" translates Asthika as "Orthodox" and Nastika as "Unorthodox".

Tezz

@SreeCharan actually what he did is he questioned in title.. and tried to answer in body of question...

Sree Charan

@Tezz But there is no mention of Adi shankara in the question.

Tezz

@user1952500 Astika breaks as Astha + Ika meaning "who has faith". Nastika breaks as Na + Astha + Ika "who doesn't have faith".

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Was Adi shankaracharya was Shaiv Shankaracharya a Shaiva or Vaihshnva a Vaishnava? In What was his work he equaled both as both are same then why people call him Vaihnav views on Shiva and Vishnu?

In Mahabharat when Pandavas asked for penance for their sins of killing their family members,Krishna asked them to go to Ishavra in Kedarnath as only Ishavra able to give penance for their sins. Shiva took away the right of pooja for Brahma wh…

@SreeCharan ^^^

user1952500

@Tezz, yes more or less...it's na + Asti + ka and asti + ka

Tezz

@SreeCharan sorry...

Title of question posted by OP was:

Adi shankaracharya was Shaiv or Vaihshnva? In his work he equaled both as both are same then why people call him Vaihnav?

user1952500

08:34

There was a sort of discussion between me and another person on a different question. Since it's quite philosophical and needed a lot of evidence, and since it would also benefit the site (or had already benefitted it), I asked it. Sorry about not doing due diligence in searching the site more thoroughly.

Tezz

@user1952500 in general sense that faith (Aastha) refers to faith in God... but in Hinduism schools it refers to faith in Vedas...

The Destroyer

@Tezz अस्ति or अस्थि?

@Tezz अस्ति means independent अ (not) + स्ति (dependent)

Tezz

@TheDestroyer न + आस्था + इक but I don't know how आस्था breaks...

user1952500

I mean the one with 'saa' dhaatu: asti means 'exists'

The Destroyer

स्था means standing and आ means towards

towards firmness or which is strong.

user1952500

08:38

@TheDestroyer, I believe astika does not have the second letter in the tavarga but the first

@Tezz, @TheDestroyer how do you get the devanagari scripts ?

The Destroyer

@user1952500 Yes. त

SwiftPushkar

where is @Pandya today🙋

The Destroyer

@user1952500 I use Google Input tools on my laptop (windows).

Tezz

@user1952500 from mobile keyboard...

The Destroyer

Tezz uses mobile. So, google Indic keyboard i think.

user1952500

08:41

asti is a verb with as dhatu

The Destroyer

@user1952500 Yes. sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/MWScan/2014/web/webtc/…

अस्

Tezz

@TheDestroyer see here: books.google.com.np/…

user1952500

thanks @TheDestroyer.
@Tezz, astika and nAstika have this root and not the sTha as in Aastha

@TheDestroyer: asti cannot be split as the above...it's a verb meaning 'to be' or 'exist'...it has the forms: asti staha santi and so on

@TheDestroyer for example, tattvamasi has the tat-tvam-asi, the asi is the second person singular form of asti

The Destroyer

@user1952500 Ok. like Astu अस्तु?

@Tezz Good find.

user1952500

@TheDestroyer right. astu is the same dhaatu in lot lakara (for imperative mood) meaning may it happen

or it should happen

The Destroyer

08:50

@user1952500 I think you should have answered your question, instead of closing, with Samskrutam Dhatus.

user1952500

@TheDestroyer, the sanskrit direct meaning may be quite different from the intended usage and common usage...also, though we know the words, because of the samasas there can be multiple meanings, and really I have not dealt much with the schools of thought which are quite technical and subtle in differences. hence the ask

The Destroyer

@ChinmayaB You should read his books. He says how NGOs are planning to divide India with their hidden agendas. He also talks about how British corrupted Hinduism.

@user1952500 Yes.

@user1952500 Btw, where are you from in India?

user1952500

and the linked answer is very useful and is more than I could have ever written

I am from Bangalore

The Destroyer

@user1952500 ok.

user1952500

What about you @TheDestroyer

The Destroyer

08:57

@user1952500 Here is the google imput tools for windows. I use Devangari (Hindi) and telugu.

google.com/inputtools/windows

@user1952500 AP

user1952500

thanks @The

thanks @TheDestroyer

The Destroyer

Ok. Bye! Will talk you later.

user1952500

@TheDestroyer bye

Sree Charan

09:40

@Tezz I didn't understand why you said sorry.

Chinmaya B

10:58

@user

@user1952500 Well even though Acharyas propageted different philosophies they were clear and all in agreement with points, Definition of Nastika is one of them. The anti-vedics or non-believers in vedas were known as Nastikas, and naturally the one who deny's doctrine of bramhan is against the thought of existence of Bramhan.

The Basic difference between various Interpretation of Vedas(upanishads) is not about atheism or theism its maily about metaphysics and method of attaining bramhan(Although methods like Karma Yoga and Bhakti Yoga are universally acceptable).

All of the ancient philosophers were believers and they have mainly attacked Non-believers like Buddhists and Jains who go against will of Bramhan i.e Vedas or Shrutis.

@The

@TheDestroyer Okay I will try to read it in near future. Btw I am more concerned about the most touching issue that affects temples and their authority. All the major temples that have hundi are controlled by Govt. indiafacts.org/…

@TheDestroyer quora.com/…

Being a Secular State and Being Hindu+sthan they expect hindus to be so liberal as to give our heads onto their swords.

All the other places of worship are free from Govt Control only Hindu places that Generate enormous wealth is controlled by Govt and those temples that need maintenance are ignored and they are slowly turning into ruins even though Hindu Temples have all the money they need.

user1952500

11:16

@ChinmayaB you mentioned that Buddhism is an Atheistic religion. I think that if you mean Atheism as per English, it is not the same. If you call it a Nastika religion, it is so.

Chinmaya B

@user1952500 I am reminded of a quote "Sanskrit is not dead because of its rich literature but it is paralysed due to its tough grammar"

user1952500

It's just a different time when what they thought as obvious is very different from what we consider obvious.

Chinmaya B

@user1952500 Yeah it atheism has a different meaning than the Nastaika word. But Buddhism is Nastika as well as atheist because it deny's existence of god.

@user1952500 Yeah we are literally illiterate in front of ancient Scholars and Acharyas.

user1952500

@ChinmayaB that last part is not exactly true. Buddhism does acknowledge the existence of gods. In fact there is a lot of talk about a god named 'Mara' and many others. However it does not acknowledge a creator of the universe. However there are many gods that it allows.

It also says that the belief or non-belief in God will not change the path.

So it's quite a bit different from the rest of the philosophies.

and FYI, Buddhism also posits a Brahma (not the fundamental Brahman, but more like the 4-headed Brahma). For example, there are the following heavens, hells and gods in Buddhism: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_cosmology

Chinmaya B

@user1952500 Yeah I've read about Buddhists considering Bramha in Heaven

Yeah going by the 'English' Definition of Atheism Buddhism is a nastika School and in any case it is wrong with all that philosophy.

@user1952500 So that makes Jainism only Nastika School and a theist school because it approves existence of gods they believe in Indra and other vedic gods, their metaphysics is close to Vedic Metaphysics.

You are wrong in calling it an atheist school as well

jainism*

user1952500

11:29

I didn't know about Indra in Jainism.

but as you say, I was wrong. Apparently there are gods there as well.

Chinmaya B

@user1952500 Yeah that makes only Charvaka School Pure atheist as well as nastika school.

user1952500

That is atheist and nastika. I don't know much about the other schools.

This is great. My views on Jainism were quite different.

Chinmaya B

@user1952500 Then how come you know about Buddhism?

user1952500

I had read the dharmapada a long time ago

Chinmaya B

@user1952500 what is that?

What did you think about Jainism?

user1952500

11:33

dhammapada is a sort of work attributed to what Buddha said

about one way of living life

Chinmaya B

@user1952500 Okay so are you a follower of Buddhism?

user1952500

I was sure that Jains did not think of the existence of Gods. I thought they only considered their tirthankaras.

no, it was just a pastime. I have read parts of the old testament, then the new testament etc.

have not touched the koran yet

Chinmaya B

@user1952500 No they share same views as vedas.

Better not to touch it! :D

user1952500

essentially Buddha was also a Hindu, so the Buddhist work will be a modification of how Hindu life was at that time. It's not very unusually different.

yes about not touching :D

Chinmaya B

Why don't you set a user name?

What sect do you belong to?

user1952500

11:37

I belong to the Thengalai...i saw u were looking at it in the chat above

Yadugiri Yathiraja Matham

Chinmaya B

OMG Adien Ramanuja Dasa JAi Shriman Naryana!

user1952500

Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan

Chinmaya B

sorry what was I looking at?

user1952500

I thought there was some conversation between you and one more about some oldest matham in Srirangam or something

That was a few hours ago...i may be wrong

Chinmaya B

Yeah that one more is @SreeCharan he is also an Iyengar, are you an Iyengar?

user1952500

11:39

Yeah Thengalai Iyengar

Chinmaya B

Awesome!

may I know your name?

user1952500

I am Arun Krishnakumar

Chinmaya B

Nice to meet you arun

user1952500

since this is shared across all SE boards, I don't want to put my name especially for technical discussons

Nice to meet you Chinmaya

I am more active on StackOverflow

Chinmaya B

Well you can make changes for this particular SE site.

So a developer! Nice to know that can you help me with RESTful APIs?

user1952500

11:42

I'll do that if I become a more active participant!

I'm more of backend systems (core kernel mostly)

Chinmaya B

Okay

user1952500

well I need to retire for the day. Nice to have met you Chinmaya! Let's chat some other time.

Chinmaya B

Okay

We can share email ids

@SwiftPushkar Okay

yubraj

14:41

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Q: Can mantra siddhi once gained be lost due to some reasons?

A Sadhaka gains full mastery over a particular Mantra after obtaining it from a Guru and doing the japa as prescribed. This process is often called "Mantra Sadhana" or "Mantra Puruscharana".Now the Mantra can be of any Deity, depending on the nature of the Sadhana or the choice of the Sadhaka,...

mantras kali sadhana tantra

Sree Charan

16:02

@chinmayaB I ma not an Iyengar as thought but a Sri Vaishnava. @user1952500 Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan

Krishn Shweta

16:23

@SreeCharan Hi!!

@SreeCharan I just read the edit history of Yubraj's question. That scared me....

Sree Charan

@KrishnShweta Ha Ha.. about Kali?

Krishn Shweta

@SreeCharan Yeah.. ^^

Sree Charan

@KrishnShweta Hi!!! (late reply.)

Krishn Shweta

@SreeCharan And I really don't understand why I'm afraid of Shiva also.

Sree Charan

@KrishnShweta Is it? In my childhood, I used to get frightened by blue colour potrayed in photos of shiva but I am not afraid now.But I don't visit nagadevata temples.

Krishn Shweta

16:37

@SreeCharan Why don't you visit nagadevata temples?

Sree Charan

@KrishnShweta I am afraid of that atmosphere. I once went inside a temple but didn't do the darshan.

Krishn Shweta

@SreeCharan OK ^^

Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan What do you mean you're not an Iyengar?

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan Who is an iyengar? will you explain?

The Destroyer

@KrishnShweta really? Fear of Bholenath?

Krishn Shweta

16:48

@TheDestroyer Yes :(

The Destroyer

@KrishnShweta even now?

Krishn Shweta

@TheDestroyer Yeah. Actually I started learning Shiva Thandavam so that I shouldn't be afraid of Him anymore.

But :(

The Destroyer

@KrishnShweta But He is cool God among all. He sits in Yogic posture and not ferocious at all. Some Movies depict Him as short tempered which is false.

Krishn Shweta

@TheDestroyer Yeah even I believe He is cool (Bholenath) but still.

@TheDestroyer recently I've seen one pic. Though it is scary I've saved it... Shall I share it here?

The Destroyer

@KrishnShweta share.

Krishn Shweta

17:01

@TheDestroyer This one.

The Destroyer

@KrishnShweta how is this scary?

Krishn Shweta

@TheDestroyer I don't know :(

Chinmaya B

17:41

@SreeCharan If you are a bramhin and a Sri Vaishnava then I think you are Iyengar.

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