Vedanta and Philosophy

2:05 AM

Jan 17 at 6:48, by Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan Oh ok. Yeah, I also know it as Sadari primarily. I've never heard anyone say Sadagopam or Sadagopuram in real life.

@KeshavSrinivasan I know sadagopam, sadari. But Sadagopuram.... I am not sure. Soda menas ego. kopam- anger. Sadakopan one who has overcome the ego by anger on it. (by a huumkara). Sada-ari- Enemy of the ego. What is the meaning of Sadagopuram?

The Destroyer

3:43 AM

@SreeCharan how can one overcome ego by kopam?

Tezz

5:02 AM

@KeshavSrinivasan whose Bhasya came first Sri Bhasya or Srikantha Bhasya... ?..

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Shata means the vital air. By which the baby in the womb which is realized and conscious forgets everything. Nammazhwar conquered the shata. Hence he conquered the ego, hunger etc., . He did not weep when we was out of the womb. He did not eat anything and speak for 16 years. He spoke his first words after 6 years when Sri Madhura kavi azhwar came up to him.

@Tezz @TheDestroyer @KeshavSrinivasan There was some other person who conquered the maya. I couldn't recollect the name. Who is he?I have read it in some upanishadic story.

Tezz

5:17 AM

@SreeCharan In the Mahabharata Suka conquered Maya... there are various sages in Upanishads also.. like the sage Svetasvatara.
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Sree Charan

@Tezz What was the real name of the sage Svetasvatara?

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz The Sri Bhashya came first.

@Tezz The three oldest surviving commentaries on the Brahma Sutras are Adi Shankaracharya's commentary, Bhaskara's commentary, and Ramanujacharya's commentary.

@SreeCharan Are you thinking of Vamadeva?

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan He explains to someone how he has conquered maya. How dreadful is getting caught in the samsara. It's a Yes.

@Keshav Whom does he explain?

Tezz

5:34 AM

@KeshavSrinivasan when is of Srikantha Bhasya.. ?..

@SreeCharan his name is Svetasvatara...

@SreeCharan what is Bhaskaras commentary... (ie. Which philosophy?)...

@SreeCharan or you might be thinking of Vamadeva as described in Brihadaranyaka Upanishad: "I-iv-10: This self was indeed Brahman in the beginning. It knew only Itself as, ‘I am Brahman’. Therefore It became all. And whoever among the gods knew It also became That; and the same with sages and men. The sage Vamadeva, while realising this (self) as That, knew, ‘I was Manu, and the sun’. And to this day whoever in like manner knows It as, ‘I am Brahman’, becomes all this (universe).

Even the gods cannot prevail against him, for he becomes their self. While he who worships another god thinking, ‘He is one, and I am another’, does not know. He is like an animal to the gods. As many animals serve a man, so does each man serve the gods. Even if one animal is taken away, it causes anguish, what should one say of many animals ? Therefore it is not liked by them that men should know this.

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz Srikantha Shivacharya's exact time period isn't known, in fact we know very little about him. We just know he lived after Ramanujacharya and before Sripati Pandita, the Lingayat commentator on the Brahma Sutra Bhashya.

Tezz

@KeshavSrinivasan Is Bhaskaras commentary avaliable in English...

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz Bhaskara believed in the philosophy of Aupadhika Bhedabheda, as I discuss here:

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Q: Has Bhaskara's second-oldest Brahma Sutra Bhashya ever been translated into English?

As I discuss in this question, by far the most popular school of Hindu philosophy is the Vedanta school, which bases its tenets on the doctrines laid out in the Brahma Sutras, a work by the sage Vyasa that summarizes and systematizes the philosophical teachings of the Upanishads. You can read the...

Tezz

@KeshavSrinivasan what is his full name...?

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz He's just called Bhaskaracharya.

Tezz

5:44 AM

@KeshavSrinivasan was he a Suryaite.. ?..

@KeshavSrinivasan is his Bhasya avaliable in Sanskrit.. ?...

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz Not much is known about him. We know he was a Tridandi Sanyasi, which is what Ramanujacharya was. He wasn't an Ekadandi Sanyasi like Adi Shankaracharya.

@Tezz I haven't found an online version of Bhaskara's commentary, but it's available in print form here: bagchee.com/books/BB28270/brahmasutra-bhaskara-bhasya

Tezz

@KeshavSrinivasan what do dandis represent.... ?..

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz I posted an answer about them here:

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A: Why does Chinna Jeeyar Swami carry a bunch of sticks and a flag attached to them?

Not just Chinna Jeeyar Swami, but all Sri Vaishnava Acharyas carry these three sticks. They are called the Tridanda, and they are carried by those who have taken up Tridandi Sanyasa, which is the type of Sanyasa that Sri Vaishnavas follow. The appearance of Sanyasis in general is described in t...

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan I was going to post the answer here. I was reading that answer just now.

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz By the way, Gaudiya Vaishnavas interpret the Brahmavaivarta Purana's prohibition of Sanyasa during the Kali Yuga as only prohibiting Ekadanda Sanyasa, not Tridanda Sanyasa.

Sree Charan

5:52 AM

@KeshavSrinivasan Haven't you shared the vedarthasangraha link here few ago? I have downloaded it.

Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan Yeah, here is Ramanujacharya's Vedartha Sangraha in Sanskrit and English: ibiblio.org/ramanuja/vedarthasangraham/…

Sree Charan

In that pdf, bhaskara's view was there.

@KeshavSrinivasan I have downloaded it few days ago.

Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan Oh, you mean Ramnujacharya refutes Bhaskara's philosophy?

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan Examination of bhaskara's view. Pages 68-74

Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan Oh ok

Sree Charan

6:05 AM

@KeshavSrinivasan Correction they are paragraphs not pages.

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz By the way, there were other commentaries on the Brahma Sutras between Adi Shankaracharya's time and Ramanujacharya's time, but they're now lost. For instance Yadava Prakasha, who was Ramanujacharya's guru before Ramanujacharya became a Sri Vaishnava, wrote a commentary on the Brahma Sutras written from the viewpoint of Svabhavika Bhedabheda, which is different than Bhaskara's philosophy of Aupadhika Bhedabheda.

@Tezz And of course there were tons of commentators on the Brahma Sutras before the time of Adi Shankaracharya, as I discussed with you earlier:

Jan 10 at 23:21, by Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz @Pandya You two may be interested in this quote from a Mimamsa work called the Prapancha Hridaya, listing various pre-Shankara Mimamsa and Vedanta commentators:
"The Mimamsa Shastra is contained in a text of 20 chapters. Of these, the first 16 chapters constitute the Purva Mimamsa. In this Mimamsa Shastra, the Purvakanda deals on issues of Dharma, and is compiled by Jaimini. The last 4 chapters constitute the Uttara Kanda or the Uttara Mimamsa and are compiled by Vyasa for dealing with the nature of Brahman. On this Mimamsa Shastra of 20 chapters, Bodhayana wrote a Bhashya that bore t…

Sree Charan

7:42 AM

Apr 21 '16 at 9:56, by The Destroyer

@AmitSaxena I follow Shiava Philosophy where everything can be viewed as union of Male and female. All females are aspects of Supreme Prakriti Adi Shakti and All Purushas are amsas of Supreme Purusha Shiva. Similarly, Soul is Purusha and insentient matter or prakriti is feminine. So, i believe homosexuality as meaningless and mere disorder. If you give me any authentic and proper sources of Sanatana Dharma with proper interpretations supporting it and then I have no problem with homosexuality.

@TheDestroyer Shaiva to advaitan. మార్పు మంచిదే :D

The Destroyer

8:00 AM

@SreeCharan Not exactly Shaiva then, i considered Shiva and Vishnu as one and same. But later learned Advaita and following it.

@SreeCharan btw, i thought to quit the site not because of other philosophy people, but due to fanatics.

@SreeCharan But that was during december 2015.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer OK. No problem. Shaiva- of shiva.

@TheDestroyer Do those fanatics still mess with you?

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan i started reading Hindu scriptures with Mahabharata and Ramayana but abridged by Sri Rajagoapalachari. But later after coming here read Shiva Purana as i had no knowledge about Shiva. I felt shiva very interesting and intriguing.

@SreeCharan No more now. I stopped completely taking debates with them. Also, i think there are no such fanatics now.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Oho...Where/when/how did you learn about advaita?

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan I learned most of Advaita from Yoga Vasista. It says everything is Maya. I liked the narration of Yoga Vasista. Later, learned from Swami Vishwananda's answers and Tezz answers too.

Sree Charan

8:15 AM

@TheDestroyer@Keshav @tE Who is the sage also named as kutsa?

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan But these philosophies shouldn't be taken seriously. If we adhere to them, we forget about God and try to indulge in debates which i feel there is no use. A devotee can follow the path he likes but if anyone sticks to philosphy, he/she will try to demean other philosophies which is dangerous.

@SreeCharan heard for first time. I think he is mentioned in Vedas.

@SreeCharan do you perform Sandhya vandanam?

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer What? Philosophies help to realise God easily. This is what I understand. There is no need to demean other philosophies. Just I don't accept other philosophies.

@TheDestroyer Yes.Prathah sandhavandanam. Madhyahnikam if time permits.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan it's fine if it helps to realize God. But, let's see what ISKCON does. It demeans Parameswara and Parashakti. How does their philosphy support it? ISKCON is cult. I went to ISKCON Temple in Chennai, a Swamiji called Shiva "Rascal". I stopped visiting ISKCON thereafter. You can also see this behaviour on online sources.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer That's wrong . Even Gaudiya Vaishnavism doesn't accept that.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan ok. I stopped Chanting Sri Rudra as i wasn't initiated. But i learned it from this video.

Rudra Namakam Chamakam by Y.N. Sharma

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@SreeCharan I was bit afraid after knowing Tvasta Story.

@Tezz ^^^

Sree Charan

8:29 AM

@TheDestroyer They have great effects.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan yeah. Nothing bad happened to me after chanting it. But i stopped now due to fear.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer That is why stotras like Vishnu sahasranamam, shiva sahasranamam has originated.

@TheDestroyer No need to fear. You can listen while a priest chants in a temple.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan I chanted Shiva Sahasranamam but i didn't like it. i liked Rudram. I think i should get initiation.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer LOL. What liking and disliking?

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan ok. Leave it.

Sree Charan

8:36 AM

@TheDestroyer I didn't mean to offend you. Initiation means getting upadesam from a learned person or Upanayanam?

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan I think Upanayanam is of no use for 23 yr old.

Oct 3 '16 at 5:35, by Keshav Srinivasan

@TheDestroyer Well, I strongly suggest that you perform Upanayana. There's certainly no harm in doing it regardless of what your beliefs are.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Upanayanam has become a nominal thing for many people even in Brahmin community. Many perform upanayanam just before few days before marriage.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan kakunuri Suryanarana murthy said there's no use in Upanayana if it is performed after 23 years.

@SreeCharan Also, my mom said our families won't wear any scared thread. We celebrate "Panchela Panduga" instead of Uanayana. But i don't get any spiritual reason behind "Panchela Panduga".

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer You said you asked trough FB. Is this the doubt you asked?

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan Kali Yugam.

@SreeCharan He didn't reply.

@SreeCharan I will message Sri Vattiparti Padmakar.

@SreeCharan No. I asked about Guna vs birth Varnasrama Dharma.

Sree Charan

8:45 AM

@TheDestroyer Some families perform "panchela panduga" which is equivalent to "saree function" to girls. It marks the entering the age of puberty.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan I also mailed Sri M, who met Mahatavar Babaji. Even he didn't reply. I don't want to irritate them by sending mail multiple times. I generally do that if anyone doesn't respond but they being Acharyas i don't want to irritate them.

Sree Charan

Boys also feel that some function should be performed to them also. So they created this function. There is n spiritual reason for this function.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan haha. Yeah. i know.

@SreeCharan I think Vaddiparti Padmakar is active on his facebook page.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Is the page run by himself or by his followers?

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan don't know,

facebook.com/vaddipartipadmakar

Sree Charan

8:55 AM

@TheDestroyer OK. Looks like it is maintained by some person who is a follower of Sri Vaddiparti Padmakar.

@TheDestroyer Rickross is participating in closing questions but not in reviewing them.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan yeah. He should utilize all his moderator facilities.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer There are 6 or 7 users who participate in moderation.

1 first post waiting for review. @TheDestroyer

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A: Recommend some books for learning to do Prana Pratishta on my own

it is very hard to find the pran pratishta and stapana mantras online. i have asked pundits in my area they are not willing to give the mantras saying that only brahmans are qualified to do the sthapanas etc. told them i was a brahman but not a kramkandi yet.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan i don't have any pending reviews.

Sree Charan

Did you select "No action needed"?

The Destroyer

I upvoted Rickross comment. haha.

Sree Charan

9:05 AM

@TheDestroyer It is about Hanuman having ''U'' shaped namam. Next time wait for some time and comment in the review.

@TheDestroyer Clever!!!

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan haha. I sometimes feel lazy to comment.

@SreeCharan you can answer it, if you know about it.

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Q: Why is Thiruman Sacred?

What is purpose/reason of using Thiruman katti for making Urdhwapundra or Namam, What is relation of Thiruman to Shriman Narayana? How is it holy clay?

vishnu practice vaishnavism sri-vaishnava

this is similar to other question

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Q: What does Thirunamam represents?

Most Hindus workship Shree Vishnu , wore Thirunamam on their forehead. What this symbol represent?

vishnu vaishnavism symbolism

Tezz

10:16 AM

@TheDestroyer "I was bit afraid after knowing Tvasta Story.".... haha... I'm also all aware that I'm doing wrong when I chant Sri Rudram (as without initiation)....but I still chant it... because I believe I earn more Punya from chanting it.. then the sin I occur it by chanting without being initiated....

@TheDestroyer while chanting Sri Rudram we prononounce name like Rudra, Bhava, Sarva Pashupati etc... and these names are powerfull to overcome any negative effects generated through mantra.. More importantly Sri Rudram also contains "Namaha Shivaya."...

@TheDestroyer Shiva Purana says that when one chants name "Shiva" just once in a lifetime then also he earns more merit then all the sins he can do for his lifetime (don't take it as a license to commit sin haha..)...anyway the point is Such powerful is the name of Shiva... that we need not need to fear...

@TheDestroyer and moreover Shiva can directly understand our intentions... Rudram is not like other Vedic mantras like Indra Suktas.. ir chanting of Tvashta... Shiva is Paramatman who is directly seated in everything. Yajurveda says "Yo Rudro Agnau Apsu Yo Aausadhisu Yo Rudro Vishwa Bhuvanavivesa Tasmai Rudraya Namo Aastu"... ie. "The Rudra in the fires, in the water, in the plants,... salutations to that Rudra who has entered the whole world."...

@TheDestroyer furthermore you can also pronounce the names of AshtaMurty "Rudra, Sharva, Pashupati, Ugra, Ashani, Bhava, Mahadeva, Ishana.".. pronouncing these names can remove any sin... Even Prajapati removed his sin by pronouncing these names in Vedas....

@TheDestroyer also remember the statement of Adi Shankaracharya "The commandments and prohibitions of scriptures are applicable to men in ignorance who live with the deep-rooted conviction that their body is their self. In the case of one who has realised even here that the Self, which is called 'he', is without all contacts and is the relationless

and eternally pure spirit-of one who is established in this supreme teaching of the Vedanta-the commandments and prohibitions of Sastras' have no application.

@TheDestroyer anyways... these all above is just my Personal Analysis...😊😊

The Destroyer

10:55 AM

@Tezz I was bit tensed as this is from Samhita of Vedas. I think whole point behind initiation is only to know proper intonation and meter.

@Tezz Yes. Even Dhyana Sloka says "Apatala.."

The Destroyer

1:57 PM

@SreeCharan @Tezz btw, i got wierd dream day before yesterday. I saw earth falling into ocean. I also saw movement (falling down) of earth among different galaxies. LOL...I thought to see Adisesha and Vishnu on ocean, but suddenly thought i couldn't see as it was staying on earth and should have been killed. And i woke up.

Sree Charan

4:51 PM

@AnkitSharma is Jack of all, master of movies!!!!

Ankit Sharma

5:27 PM

@SreeCharan lol

Sree Charan

@AnkitSharma New DP again. How many languages do you watch?

Nice one.

Ankit Sharma

@SreeCharan English and Hindi mainly.

He is in English films

Sree Charan

@AnkitSharma I am getting to know the names of Hollywood actors because of you.:) Diego Luna.

Ankit Sharma

5:42 PM

:D

Sree Charan

@Ankit I liked the profile picture which was before flynn rider. What was his name?

Ankit Sharma

don't remember

Sree Charan

Never mind.

You know @AnkitSharma, from 7 votes Pandya's answer got in Philosophy, 4 votes are from users from Hinduism. :D

@KrishnShweta Hello!!!!

Krishn Shweta

Hi @SreeCharan ....

Em doing?

Sree Charan

@Krishn Nothing. I just wrote an answer. That's why I ignored when you have entered the chatroom sometime ago.

Krishn Shweta

5:55 PM

Wow!! I really like if anyone call me Krishna ^^

@SreeCharan Cool!! I'll see your answer tomorrow...

@SreeCharan your answer about hair was too good :)

Sree Charan

@KrishnShweta It reduces typing effort. Sometimes to ping destroyer, I only type "The".

@KrishnShweta Thanks. :)

Krishn Shweta

Ok....

Sree Charan

You can only type first name when the complete name is too long.

Krishn Shweta

Hmm.. I just type 1st letter then select the name.

Sree Charan

@KrishnShweta Typing madhyalo mouse jarapali kada. When you are on mobile, it will be convenient.

@KrishnShweta I use keyboard more than mouse.

Krishn Shweta

6:05 PM

True!!

@SreeCharan Good...

Ankit Sharma

@SreeCharan I am happy that it crossed the requirement, rest all 3 are doing badly

Sree Charan

@AnkitSharma But philosophy is not graduated. Are ads allowed there?

Krishn Shweta

@AnkitSharma which SEs other than Philosophy?

Ankit Sharma

@SreeCharan it's graduated, don't you know about design independent graduation?

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A: Feedback Requested: Design-Independent Graduation

I say do it. Why? Because you lose nothing, and gain a lot People on beta sites tend to lose interest after a while - there seems to be a natural drive to get the 'beta' label off the site. It almost feels like a bad thing, and people start asking what they need to do to get rid of it. More imp...

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A: Why we never tried our hand in Community promotion ads?

Why do we have Community Promotion Ads? This is a method for the community to control what gets promoted to visitors on the site. For example, you might promote the following things: interesting unix and linux related open source apps the site's twitter account script packs or...

Sree Charan

@AnkitSharma OK. I don't know about it.

Ankit Sharma

6:12 PM

@SreeCharan SE selected few site to give graduation without giving then design. But all of those site still lack design even after a year and more

Krishn Shweta

@AnkitSharma I'll check whether I'm eligible to upvote in those SEs ;)

Ankit Sharma

@KrishnShweta you get association bonus if you have 200 rep on any other SE site

Krishn Shweta

@AnkitSharma my rep didn't exceeded 150 rep in any SE site.

Sree Charan

@AnkitSharma They didn't submit any design after asked by SE CM's ?

Ankit Sharma

@SreeCharan SE take time, movie took more then year in graduation pending pipline, that's why they made designless graduation

Sree Charan

6:16 PM

@KrishnShweta You don't ask questions even when you have them in your mind. How will u gain rep?

Ankit Sharma

@KrishnShweta ohhh

Krishn Shweta

@SreeCharan haha...

Sree Charan

@AnkitSharma OK. Do you know what is the keyboard shortcut to reply to a message?

Ankit Sharma

@SreeCharan :no idea

@SreeCharan nice point

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Weird and wonderful dream. Ha Ha.

The Destroyer

6:22 PM

@SreeCharan yeah. I thought i would see at least Adi sesha.

@SreeCharan still funniest thing is, it was telecasted on TV 😂😂

But when i got doubt, everything disappeared

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer What? I didn't understand. It was telecasted in TV in your dream?

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan yeah.. lol

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer No need to worry. You will see them one day.

@TheDestroyer I get many dreams. I can't forget some in my life. They are very important.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan i was bit exited but due to my doubt it disappeared... I don't know why i used my brain in dream..

@SreeCharan what are they?

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer You know, my mind is bit conscious during some of my dreams. Dreams happen in my point of view.In some, I am also a part.

The Destroyer

6:29 PM

@SreeCharan i didn't get.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer IN some dreams, I don't take part just see them. But in some, I am the seer and a part too.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan ok.

Krishn Shweta

Opss!! I thought to edit. But deleted

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan good answer but OP wants how to remember and he is asking effective method..i think personal opinion based question.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Once I have seen a dream in which I went to a temple. I went to the topmost floor of a temple. there, a pisacha got hold of my neck and starting to push me to the ground. But then I realised that ghosts are afraid of Hanuman and I started to chant the verse "Anjaneyam mahaveeryam .......ramadutam namamyaham..." But it tried to stop my voice by holding it tightly when i took the name of Hanuman. Then I shouted Lakshmi Narasimha as louder I could.

@KrishnShweta @TheDestroyer All this time, I was falling from great height. Hearing the name of Narasimha swamy, the ghost disappeared. I fell down with my feet landing. I didn't experience any pain or got hurt in the dream.

The Destroyer

6:41 PM

@SreeCharan same thing happened to me in dream. I was sitting in bsck seat of car and all doors and windows were locked. I was suffocating. Then i started shouting Shiva and name of my kula devata, Ankamma. But i realized it couldn't be true and i woke up.

@SreeCharan power of Narasimha ,☺

Krishn Shweta

@SreeCharan Narasimha Swamy is my kula devata ^^

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer WE can make edits to the question. questions like those will be helpful for the people.

@KrishnShweta Is it? He is our kuladevata too.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan let OP decide.

@SreeCharan our mother's family kula devata too

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer You know, my dreams won't stop even after I realise. I get dreams with VFX too. 😂

Krishn Shweta