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Omar

09:03

@goldPseudo

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goldPseudo

14:38

@Omar what?

Islam.SE

14:53

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Q: What is the point of you all criticising other peoples questions?

This is an islamic site where people are free to ask what they want, what you people are doing is closing other people questions just because you don't think its good enough, with all this downvoting and put questions on hold or closing them off when they have a genuine concern. There is lack of ...

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Omar

15:24

@goldPseudo Assalam Alaykom

goldPseudo

wa 'alaykum assalaam

Omar

@goldPseudo regarding my question on meta

@goldPseudo I understand your opinion although I have an opposite opinion, but I cant stand that you're being criticized. Especially that I read on meta that some users have hammered you with complaints.

therefore, I will withdraw my question and take another direction.

I just wanted to tell you that personally.

goldPseudo

I do agree that questions which seek multiple perspectives have significant value.

I just don't agree with the idea that people who don't want multiple perspectives should be forced to listen to them anyway.

Bleeding Fingers

@Omar that would not do the community and this site, which we collectively striving to get on it foot, any good

goldPseudo

Especially when you consider that some topics are so diverse in opinion that effectively covering all perspectives in a single answer is pretty much impossible.

And even when multiple schools hold the same opinion, they may still do so based on completely different evidences.

multiple perspectives in a single answer, so far as the Stack Exchange model is concerned, can give a strong surface study to a topic, but it pretty much useless for depth. and we want to attract deep questions because those are the questions that experts are more likely to have.

Omar

15:37

Honestly I saw some answers that in my sect are invalid and wanted to show the opposite. My purpose isn't to start endless arguments, instead, let the reader choose whatever suits him/her.

But since my idea doesn't serve the purpose of SE Q&A then I have no choice but to take another direction and ask counterquestions.

goldPseudo

you'll get a lot of that on here. side effect of being open to all who live under the umbrella of "Islam" is that there's a lot of people who disagree with each other on fundamental levels.

Omar

Such questions will be linked to other questions/answers and the reader can easily find them, even though in different posts.

@goldPseudo We also can't neglect recent external factors.

goldPseudo

yeah, there's nothing wrong with counterquestions, so long as they're valid questions in their own right.

if it just becomes a back-and-forth discussion spread over a dozen posts, chat is probably better for it.

Omar

Nobody will go through hundreds of lines on chat. A single post is much better :)

goldPseudo

frankly, the thing that really annoys me about the "all perspectives should be covered" issue is the fact that so many people reduce that to "Shi'a and Sunni perspectives should be covered".

it's not like there's not also significant difference of opinions under the Sunni and Shi'ite umbrellas as well.

Omar

15:42

@goldPseudo Sorry, I didnt understand this.

@goldPseudo there are significant differences in terms of عقيدة

goldPseudo

which i think demonstrates how pervasive the apologetic/polemic attitude runs here: Polemics from any one side are very inclined to treat "the other" as a single behemoth that all believe the same thing ever.

(hardly limited to Shia/Sunni. i see exactly the same thing in Muslim/Christian polemic as well)

Omar

16:30

I got d/c

Omar

17:24

@goldPseudo I have flagged my question for deletion. Thank you

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Islam.SE

19:16

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Q: Why was part of my old answer to a question removed?

I recently had to reverse a minor wrong edit in an old post of mine (posted in June) which brought it to the front page. The answer back then was upvoted and nobody apparently found any fault with it. But I noticed part of the answer was removed just yesterday with the explanation, "removed unne...

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TRiG

21:33

@goldPseudo I think the common problem in X/Y polemic might not be the X/Y but the polemic.

goldPseudo

agreed.

Omar

السلام عليكم

goldPseudo

wa 'alaykum assalaam

Omar

How are you @gold

goldPseudo

hungry and cranky, mostly. just heading out for lunch.

Omar

21:45

Haha ok, enjoy your meal.

Shall I add an answer to my meta Q of my opinion/vision or are you going to delete it?

Hmmm..I should have flagged it as dupe rather than special flag so I can delete myself later.

Anyway, I'm off to bed now

Talk to you later

goldPseudo

i haven't deleted the post; i'm waiting for one of the other mods to weigh in on that flag.

the topic is definitely a valid one for discussion.

Hakim

Hi @all

Omar

Q: Language sites and pronunciation questions

The following feature request would be useful for the language sites in general if implemented. A discussion took place in a chatroom dedicated for the Arabic Language Proposal it started: let say a non-Arabic speaker asking how to pronounce a word in Arabic the discussion went on from...