Puzzles Etc.

humn

05:00

(mulling to the point of apparent paralysis)

(but still feeling a little chatty:) i can think of a few others who'd make good moderators, but if it's just 3 i really like the mix that D, E and q_a would make

Jonathan Allan

OK think that fixes it

Deusovi

E being Emrakul?

humn

si.. E's earned it as far as i'm concerned and i keep seeing more and more good sides of E, including things over the years

Deusovi

you say "the mix that [we] would make" but it's probably just gonna be Emrakul and q_a fighting, with me occasionally siding with one of the two

:P

humn

i want them to keep tussling, but on equal footing

Jonathan Allan

05:05

@Deusovi - the moderator moderator.

humn

ho!

Jonathan Allan

like a party whip

(if Americans know what that is)

Deusovi

i'm still really honored that you'd support me as a mod

i make TERRIBLE decisions

Jonathan Allan

you have been warned :p

humn

(yes, congress has party whips, something like 2nd or 3rd in line)

being moderator is perfect for terrible decisions

there'll always be someone unhappy with each one, no matter how great the decision really is

Deusovi

05:07

great! so then i can screw up and nobody'll be able to tell or do anything about it!

humn

more likely.....

you can do a great job and countless rabble will grumble

Jonathan Allan

my only advice for a political pursuit (be it being a moderator or an actual politician) is - if it ain't broke don't fix it :)

humn

but, time out for a big laugh: (in a sec)

really, J!

Jonathan Allan

it's the real reason power corrupts IMO

gotta be seen to be acting

humn

I've even worked with people in power who just wanted to be part of the action so badly that would break things that didn't need to be fixed

Jonathan Allan

05:10

exactly

Deusovi

"if it ain't broke, break it and then fix it"

Jonathan Allan

^^

humn

so , can't find the quote, but , J, did you happen to see the comment where someone said that D would understand how this site works after becoming familiar with it....

Jonathan Allan

@humn answer was disappointing IMO

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Q: Misguided testing

Tom's job was to test light sensors for the Navy. He would mount 4 sensors at a time in a test circuit, then shine a light at them and measure the output. "Sensor #157 is clearly the best," Tom concluded. "It's signal is weak, but the relative noise is 42% lower than any of the other sensors on ...

humn

i'm sure you remember that, D

(looking)....... agreeing on the answer, but good for the person who got it!

Jonathan Allan

05:13

it wasn't that project manager who came in here to persuade us to make meta posts so that they could then be left to rot?

heh the language tag doesn't half clutter the starred board

humn

the person to who didn't recognize D? (project manager?)

Jonathan Allan

yeah, that is to what I was referring

humn

where was it? on meta?

Jonathan Allan

in here

maybe getting wires crossed

Deusovi

hm?

humn

05:16

ohhhhh... let's find it...

Deusovi

oh yeah that guy!

shog9

Jonathan Allan

that's who I meant at least

humn

ah, that's someone who's been around plenty, but guess not at Puzzling

i fell of my chair when i saw that, almost fell off the floor too

Deusovi

no, he hates us

humn

he was being insulting on purpose?

Deusovi

05:17

who knows

but he said we shouldn't exist

(we being ??.SE, not the individual people)

humn

how philosophical

where's that quote? you handled it with aplomb, D

Jonathan Allan

maybe he thinks we shouldn't exist either :)

Deusovi

what quote?

humn

where he said what he said and you answered that you do visit here more often than not

hoh, every time i abbreviate D(eusovi) it looks like smiling!

Deusovi

i don't remember what you're talking about

humn

05:19

and J(onathan) looks like fishing

how would you remember? guess you'll just have to take the words of two people who weren't there

wasn't it just a couple of days ago?

Jonathan Allan

if it's what I think (shog9) I was there, but still not quite sure what quote

humn

(going for a quick look) (chat room search isn't the best)

Jonathan Allan

are you thinking of Alconja?

Deusovi

A?

oh, Alconja

humn

One more try: I thought it was in comments, in the last week if not the last day or so

Someone said to D how things work here and it will become familiar with time

Jonathan Allan

05:25

shog: "our job is to facilitate "

Deusovi

oh yeah i remember that hold on

humn

D said something like: I visit most days and have seen ___

Deusovi

this?

No, I come to Puzzling daily. Where is the actual evidence in the story for your accusation? It seems like you've just chosen random characters, claimed that two of them were the same person, and accused a third character. — Deusovi Jun 20 at 22:22

"Maybe you are returning to Puzzling.SE after a long time??"

humn

yea!

(but also found the facilitate quote from shog9)

May 17 at 7:02, by Shog9

our job is to facilitate

Jonathan Allan

^^

humn

05:27

ah, i see why that rang a bell, J

Deusovi

yeah, Shog9 was... kind of a dick

to be brutally honest

Jonathan Allan

I'm sure there was some put down and a decent retort

humn

(but i want to go enjoy that "returning to Puzzling" interchange all over again, back in a sec)

Jonathan Allan

well he is a project manager :p

humn

(wow... the facilitating interchange is longer and not as amusing. don't really understand it off the bat)

just fell off my chair again with the injection-logic interchange!

the number of questionable inferences per second exceeded the limit that one puzzle can contain

so it spilled over into personal mis-inferences in comments

...I have a feeling we're gonna wind up loving that person. they are truly a puzzle lover

...but saw another place where the same person got into an awkward interchange with another puzzle lover who can come off testy

... they got into an argument about how to @ each others' names when responding to each others' testy comments about @ -ing each other

Jonathan Allan

05:37

LOL

humn

it's another ya-hadda-be-there

Jonathan Allan

don't @ me mate. I'm not your mate @Mate.

humn

i won't dig it up exactly, in order to preserve some dignity, mine as well as theirs

Jonathan Allan

don't dig the pig :)

humn

sometimes i fake @ by putting $@$ around it

dig the pig sounds funny enough, is it a quote too?

Jonathan Allan

05:40

gotta be about that time...

Pete Skank - Don´t dig the pig

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messy London Acid Techno, circa 1999

humn

(going to share this with the neighbors)

Jonathan Allan

;p

used to go to a night he put on called Acid Bath. I had an "Acid passport" which got me in for free and there was free acid. Good times :p

Deusovi

@humn Which one?

humn

which neighbor? was making the music come of out actual speakers (didn't work right away either)

(Whoa, just had a browser moment, looks okay again...)

don't understand your question, @Deusovi

Deusovi

what do you mean by "the injection-logic interchange"?

humn

05:48

Well, this wouldn't have been a puzzle if the Drug Lord actually injected his victims. Drug Lords don't inject, they sell. — Έρικ Κωνσταντόπουλος Jun 20 at 22:32

(didn't realize that your question had an arrow)

Deusovi

oh duh

humn

the personal mis-inference was about you, the other mis-inferences were about the puzzle

Jonathan Allan

The addicts are drug smugglers (same record producer) :p

Deusovi

yeah, Erik seems to regularly get into... interesting conversations based on his answers

i probably shouldn't be gossiping about people in here but eh that's half of what this room is used for anyway

humn

(this is a multilayered interleaved conversation)

Deusovi

05:50

we should make this into a puzzle

humn

(mulling).... like a braid?

Deusovi

(that was not serious, this would not be a good puzzle)

humn

there was an interchange here once (or more) about filling in a conversation that is full of interruptions

...hey DJAllan, the piece seems to have ended

Jonathan Allan

oh, you want more of the same??

humn

i'll tip the kitty if that's what it takes

Jonathan Allan

05:54

Bearded acid warriors of peace, BAWOP 006, Midnight Tourists, Pangalactic Gargleblaster

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humn

thank yo

Jonathan Allan

Nothing like a HHGTTG reference

I love the weird beats in this one :)

humn

is HHGTTG in a not-in-use language that uses an alphabet?

Jonathan Allan

all are in-use :)

Deusovi

HHGTTG is "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy", a book by Douglas Adams

humn

05:56

thank yo to ... coming from someone who actually referred to that book/series in an answer

Jonathan Allan

ohhhhh thanks @Deusovi

missed the actual question

humn

... an answer needed an explanation for the number 42

Jonathan Allan

heh yep

humn

the real answer was that 42 nicely rounds off approximations of pi

Jonathan Allan

~= 100*(1-sqrt(1/3))

humn

05:59

ohhh that one too!

Jonathan Allan

^^

Deusovi

eh, fuck pi. tau is where it's at :P

humn

haah, i saw you and manshu agreeing on that cosmological truth but hadn't heard of the controversy before then

Deusovi

there's not really much of one

humn

i enjoyed looking it up

Jonathan Allan

06:01

it's an irrational argument (sigh)

Deusovi

AFAIK most people agree that tau would make things slightly easier but switching would be too much effort for too little gain

humn

oy it would be worse than renaming mt mckinley (one argument was that maps would have to be retypeset)

Deusovi

renaming mt mckinley?

humn

(parochial reference, i guess)

Deusovi

hm?

humn

06:02

USA's tallest peak, in Alaska

named for a president that was never there

after millenia of having local names

Deusovi

oh huh

humn

so, after 150 (?) years of having a ridiculous name, it was finally officially renamed to one of its traditional names

and racists were all upset, coming up with absurd arguments against it

Deusovi

ha

humn

(trying to keep this short) the best argument was, what else: it's always been called mt mckinley

(end of detour)

at least the pi/tau conversation isn't based on racism

... music stopped ...

thought YouTube would suggest similar music

but it's suggesting puzzle videos... guess they've got my number

Deusovi

ooh lemme see

Jonathan Allan

06:08

on a different tip

Infected Mushroom - Kazabubu HQ / HD

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gotta love the Asian dancers too

humn

just saw the opening crash sequence... or was it?

Jonathan Allan

like magic

not an official vid BTW

humn

took a few looks to get that

what a relief!

Jonathan Allan

dunno if Infected Mushroom actually have any official vids

humn

now video reminds me a little of that milkshake video but i just cant put my finger on why

Jonathan Allan

06:11

...but I'd have to charge

humn

3.95 for the first 3 minutes? (old phone sex joke)

Jonathan Allan

heh

oh the Bruce Lee nun-chuck table tennis, awesome...

humn

(flipping back and forth)

Jonathan Allan

you need more monitors :p

queue up...

Bitch - Ralphi Rosario & Wayne G feat. Stewart Who?

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totally un-PC :D

humn

(okay now i'm at the grown-ups table with 2 monitors) (bonus: system errors, seems to have calmed down now)

(probably a couple of minutes behind now)

but yea, "Physics Girl" on YouTube keeps asking me if i can solve the boat puzzle

Jonathan Allan

06:17

^^

humn

this Bitch video means I get a turn to suggest one (finding it)

Jonathan Allan

eat the Goose with the beans and why do you need a fox?

humn

^^^^^^^^ was that a line that just went by?

Jonathan Allan

river crossing problem soution

humn

oh you went there

here's a follow-up to that last one, for some reasons:

Laid Back - White Horse

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Jonathan Allan

06:24

they got it, is it 80's?

humn

(fuuuu, just had to restart the system)

Jonathan Allan

:(

humn

mid-80s on the spot

horse references = very 80s

Jonathan Allan

holds it's value :)

y

humn

(never mind)

Jonathan Allan

06:26

I know

as, I think, is the reference in...

Goodbye Horses - Q Lazzarus

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FYI singer is a woman

humn

(just got it started)

it's about heroin too?

Jonathan Allan

not 100% sure

humn

looks like an album cover

Jonathan Allan

one hit wonder :(

was in Silence Of The Lambs

humn

you're right too, the voice isn't obvious

Jonathan Allan

06:30

but is great :)

humn

took a while to realize that Freddy Mercury's voice was male, hearing only Killer Queen

Jonathan Allan

:)

humn

(listening)

Jonathan Allan

always changing tip

Knife Party - 'Internet Friends'

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humn

(acutally, i'm sure horse was used as slang in the 60s too maybe earlier)

cueing up

Jonathan Allan

06:34

yeah think so

Internet Friends makes sense to post on a web chat :p

humn

^^^^^^^^^^ yup a yup ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (kinda enjoying the tesla-coil-like arcing)

and it has browser sounds! (i fell for them at first of course)

Jonathan Allan

:)

Knife Party made some good stuff

humn

no complaints from the peanut gallery

Jonathan Allan

wow still got 4G of RAM held by search space for:

um

7

Q: Least amount of moves is required

You have 8x8 board and 9 identical pieces placed in a 3x3 square at the bottom left corner of the board. You are going to play a very simple game. Your task is to move these 9 pieces to the 3x3 square in the upper right corner of the board, with as few moves as possible. Two kinds of move are all...

optimization chessboard board-games

humn

oh

Jonathan Allan

06:39

nope

more Knife Party :)

Knife Party - Centipede (Official Video)

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humn

you're running a long search for "Least amount of moves" right now?

Jonathan Allan

nope

humn

didn't get your comment about 4G (don't necessarily need to?)

Jonathan Allan

sitting there waiting for me to do something cleverer to be able to search a bigger space (it's using 4GB of my RAM at depth 9 for an unbounded search - my solution was from a bounded search)

...if I go to depth 10 I think it starts getting near my 16GB limit

humn

you're reaching NP-something levels

Jonathan Allan

06:44

need depth 11 in case there is a 21 move solution but no 20 move one

humn

just thought a super-geeky history-of-computer-science word riddle....

Jonathan Allan

any NP /can/ be found by search, it's finding a non-search method that's what we want :(

Knife Party - 'Bonfire'

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humn

you just answered two questions as I was typing them

Jonathan Allan

:)

think this is his best.

humn

i'm a sucker for reggae sound

Jonathan Allan

06:48

daaaancehaaaaallll

humn

ah

Jonathan Allan

I was just shouting it out :D

humn

1998 - Commercial - SHOUT Stain Remover - Want a tough stain out the first time?

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Jonathan Allan

omg

reminds me of something else :D

Cillit Bang - Hardcore Mix

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humn

oops, fell for it... thought it was clitty bang

Jonathan Allan

06:53

Persian Mynx - Breakcore Girl

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humn

now this font is making my ditty look clitty

Jonathan Allan

haga

gaha

humn

heard of Language is a Virus? Laurie Anderson

Jonathan Allan

?

book?

humn

good! its a video , coming soon to a chat room near you

Jonathan Allan

06:56

Persian Mynx - what a job...

"I wanna do that again" she says at the end... I think I do too :p

humn

don't resist

Laurie Anderson - Language Is A Virus (From Outer Space)

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Jonathan Allan

already there

in 1 min

had to play Persian Mynx again

humn

and you admitted it too

Jonathan Allan

yep

no shame

humn

ah, the language virus isn't exactly the piece i had in mind, just the one with the best title

close enough, though

Jonathan Allan

07:01

oh

humn

"paradise is exactly like where we are now..... only.... much.... much.... better"

Jonathan Allan

heh

humn

(all quiet on the western front)

Jonathan Allan

just finished that song

Tanya Stephens - Little White Lie

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stick with it...

humn

thank yo

Jonathan Allan

07:07

one with a vid

Dizzee Rascal - Love This Town ft. Teddy Sky

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that is my town :)

humn

yeah? lesseee

first caption: somewhere in london

very witty ... scarily helpful toughs

(the video i was looking for didn't work)

Jonathan Allan

infected mushroom poquito mas

Infected Mushroom - Poquito Mas

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try again ^^

humn

^^^ this is working fine

Jonathan Allan

The Animals - The House of the Rising Sun Mafia III Trailer 3

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humn

haha, i see a Doors title on the Infected Mushrool cover too

Jonathan Allan

07:19

End Of The Road?

humn

Burden always looks like he's looking for a fight and will wind up beat up

Jonathan Allan

heh

awsome though, just never get bored of it

it's actually formed from a very old song...

humn

like it more and more each time too. here's one i only recently found out was by burden: (if i got the right link)

Jonathan Allan

from like 1400's

let me find a decent version.

it's dark

humn

ah.. you're ringing a bell with the music reference

Jonathan Allan

07:22

Matty Groves performance by The Strangelings Clearwater 2008

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there is something that is something else for 30s

humn

(getting to the end of the previous one)

now about a minute into "matty groves"

you're saying it's related to house of rising sun?

Jonathan Allan

it's the original stem of the song I believe

there is another song between but I'm not sure what it's called

an old American one

humn

good performance but the connection isn't obvious to me

Jonathan Allan

"I'd rather a kiss from dead Matty's lips than you in your finery" ^^

Matty Groves

"Matty Groves" is an English folk ballad that describes an adulterous tryst between a man and a woman that is ended when the woman's husband discovers and kills them. It dates to at least the 17th century, and is one of the Child Ballads collected by 19th-century American scholar Francis James Child. It has several variant names, including "Little Musgrave and Lady Barnard." == Synopsis == Matty Groves (or Little Musgrave) is a servant or retainer of Lord Arlen. (Other names for Arlen include Daniel, Arnold, Donald, Darnell, and Barnard.) Lady Arlen entices Matty Groves into having an adulterous...

bit of light relief