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01:53
@Deusovi, don't mean to pick on you but there's something I keep forgetting to mention:
The way you greet so many newcomers, with a customized "Welcome to Puzzling" comment, is something to learn from!
Early on, a friend posted an experimental puzzle for me, as their first post, because I had quickly become gun-shy.
Your responding with interested encouragement in a comment made a huge difference.
Whenever I see a first-post notice I want to contribute similarly, but admit to being shy and lazy about it.
Glad to see others seemingly following your example more and more as well, and I hope it doesn't feel like an obligation or a burden because there is no way to keep up with th
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02:13
Amen to that :D
Jonathan, I've also been forgetting to briefly kid you about trits, now that your puzzle's solution is no longer in the balance
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Q: Logically linked numbers

Jonathan AllanThe left and right numbers are linked. What should the last number on the right be, and why? \begin{align} 135759&: 1 \\ 151364&: 4 \\ 255075&: 9 \\ 279422&: 36 \\ 292620&: 91 \\ 348777&: 135 \\ 398067&: 147 \\ 417894&: 265 \\ 459431&: 279 \\ 478926&: 307 \\ 609941&: 363 \\ 689245&: 435 \\ 814576&...

That question that came up did stun me :p
really wasn't sure what to say to you haha
you said:
Jun 4 at 20:21, by Jonathan Allan
what post?
I knoez :)
hohohohohohohoeheheheheheaahshsakhdifhiehihawegihegiahwgaheeeeeee
and i fell for your deadpan
02:25
I was like: "WTF do I say to that? Uhhhhh"
but i'm also dying to know
how it felt to write up the answer to that post
with details from the answer to yours... surreal?
I was just thinking "quick answer it so it may go off radar" :p
(laughing hysterically)
what else could I do? Flag it as a duplicate?
heh
!
what were the chances?!
you're clearly on record as being there first
02:28
that would have been funny though :p "This question already has an answer here"
uh, no it doesn't :p
---> this question will already have an answer here
I did like his/her ordering thing though :)
(good edit) (now looking back at their ordering)
it went 12357 / 069 / 8
are we talking about?:
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Q: Really, really, really hard sequence

kamenf... in which you have nothing to do with math ... except maybe with some counting and this and that ... but no calculations, no, definitely no. $1, 0, 8, 62, 90, 68, 83, 89, 88, 057, 619, 028, 693, 069, 068, 985, 086, 988, 871, 820, 838, 865, 890, 868, 887, ?, ?, ?, ...$ Question: Wha...

02:30
so 0 was represented as 1, 2 as 0, 3 as 8, 4 as 62 ...
oh, oooo, think i missed that part, or it got overshadowed
so their 0 trits went 1,2,3,5,7,1,2,3,5,7,1,....
got it, finally, thanks
incidental suspicion:
did you try to make your explanation short and sweet as part of the attempt for less attention?
it just haaaad to be killing you
can't recall, so prob not - more likely just to be as quick as possible ^^
so many others of your answers are like fireplace reading
but we're all allowed to make one-screeners as well
02:34
like a buddy of mine says so often WOT
(wall of text)
good one, (your) buddy, instantly reminds me of WOSound
it's funny because I remember so well at the age of 7 doing some homework - write a piece about... - I answered with 7 words all spelt incorrectly :)
the hard way? handwritten?
WOSound?
computers make it possible to misspell 7 words before the finishing even the first one
02:37
yeah back in the day when a bbc micro was SOTA
wall of sound = some rock bands' speaker setup
(looking up bbc and SOTA)
hadn't heard of the bbc microbit
I do more trance...
^^^^^^^^^^^^ looks like a WOS to me ^^^^^^^
and saw what SOTA means, but thought it was gong to be something like SOW (shit on wheels!)
02:40
you don't need so many if you go with the right setup
is this from your speaker porn collection?
Ave, Deusovi, your fan club is in session
mine:
they do an outstanding job
yikes! is that a soccer field of snow under it for scale?
02:43
not my pic, mine are black
looks solid enough to not buckle during bass notes
must weigh a ton
@humn Thanks so much! I just try to make people feel welcome - a lot of the time, the reaction to newbies can seem harsh, so I leave notes explaining how they can fix bad posts (or commenting on the quality of the good ones)
I've been slacking recently - busy making a large puzzle hunt with a friend :P
The fifthnightly challenge!?
Ha, no :P
As a rough estimate, we plan to have around 70-80 puzzles
Something like (or for?) MIT puzzle hunt? (or did i get that name wrong?)
02:46
Yeah, pretty similar
(MIT Mystery Hunt is the name of the specific one; the general term is "puzzle hunt")
^^^^ got it
We're not making the MIT one though - that one always has over 200 puzzles and teams of over a hundred people working on it
i can (have to) imagine
you should try it sometime! it's always really fun
i've enjoyed every time someone points out some part of one
like the tetris crossword
02:48
h,w,d(mm): 880 x 229 x 403. 6 Ohm, 89 dB, 200W
(it's mostly me doing that :P )
What Hi-Fi 4.67/5
kg?
um
22kg apiece
that's a lot in dog years!
02:50
i know nothing about speakers so i'm just going to nod encouragingly. yep, those are definitely speaker measurements of some kind
oh humn just asked for "scale"
size is not what's important :p
as she said, screaming.
Deusovi, Jonathan has deaf neighbors
they had perfect hearing before he moved in
i hadn't seen cylindrical speakers before
but imagine that it makes them extra rigid (..... that wasn't meant to sound funny)
.... but, Deusovi, greeting newcomers is not a responsibility but is is an excellent example! <--- which you have set well
thank you! c:
never goes above 14
just looked up that amp too... looks like a no-nonsense POWER switch
ahhhh, music
yep, pre amp is...
never above 14? ever below 13?
now there's where all the nonsense belongs
ok never "below" 14 :p no sound = inf, max power is 0
now i'm gonna echo Deusovi's observation: looks like specs all right ..... but this time a little made up?
your preamp is a studio console, in case you didn't know
cant find image, but have line attenuators on the input too (does a lot for the quality) plus a mains filter (I live in dirty London)
when i first could afford a sound system i read through all the literature, so...
next thing you'll say is that you had a concrete slab installed as a floor
of the next room where the turntable is
03:02
heh not quite
but desk is VERY heavy
you really have a walter mitty desire to be a DJ don't you
mild mannered milquetoast mathematician by day
cant find weight spec, think about 55Kg
with stand for the laptop :)
and turntable?
i'm blushing
03:07
kinda like so:
except it has a back
and the cd decks are where the laptop goes :)
and the power amp in the middle shelf like that :p
easier and easier to imagine
just put a bunch of wasted youths around it and...
...
which one's pink? (line from Pink Floyd song)
um Pink?
In for a pill?
which one's you is what i was getting at
03:10
that picture speaks volumes
i'm sure ya hadda be there!
I've no idea who they are :p
(looking it up in Go-ogle image)
never saw such a good picture though
I wonder if any of them remember that night
they'll be reminded at jobs interviews of course
03:12
hehe
(just chuckling, to be precise)
(this font makes my precision look like preasion (in a different font))
preα̇sion
^^^^ that's going straight to the crime lab (my editor) for analysis
greek alpha + combining dot above
thanks, had only gotten the alpha so far but could tell that the diacritic was shifty
03:18
well I can't speα̇al to sα̇ve my life
the drugs in that picture are definitely giving us a contact high
text is swirnrnrnrnrnrning before my eyes
or is it sα̇juirming?
swα̇rnrning
sɯιrnrnιnງ
I had to look it up in a dα̇tionary
*ic
dcitionary? :P
03:21
yeah, is it wronງ?
(going for a picture from a puzzle i'm working on...)
by "working on" do you mean making or solving?
making, seems like every one is some kind of experiment perilous
this one is about a real park with confusing trail signs
...the fuck
wℯ℩℩ ℑ w℁ ℄Ø∫ℇ, №?
03:29
I just can't type fun characters readily. Have to make puzzle with them and copy with screen shots
you'll have keep typing them for me
This screen is making your ℑ look like medieval manuscript shorthand (truly)
CAÑADA...
you wouldn't believe the trail's real name
Black-Letter Capital I - 2111
i see it, i believe it, but i have no idea what it means
it's sometimes used for the imaginary component of a number
like, ℑ(3-4i) = -4
03:34
(by the way, Jonathan, i haven't given up on making more tables for Strange Correspondence)
oh right, scripty I, right
ℑ[3-4i] = -4
projection
that's... what i just said?
usually ℑm[3-4i] = -4 I think
it's written either Im or ℑ
03:35
ok
same with the real part: can be written Re or 𝕽
get facy and use ℐ
from here 𝕽 looks like aleph
i'm old-fashioned enough to only have used chalk with it, on a chalkboard. think my books always spelled it out Im and Re
𝕽𝕽𝕽𝕽𝕽elph = fancy slang for vomit in my neck of the woods
here's my new chat room icon: (every damn line seems to have a pencil next to it)
well now you're not allowed to say anything non-edited
that's how it works
you're so right
I predict Jonathan will say "nope"
03:45
you don't actually have to change anything to make it show as edited
i'm going to prove both of you wrong by not changing anything and having it not show a pencil
(wrong again, again)
yes, that's called "not editing something"
you may not have heard of it before
I'd barely disbelieve what i'm not sure i'm mishearing if i hadn't heard it myself
wow, that's impressively difficult to parse
03:48
you should've seen the one that really was trying to make sense
it was thanking Jonathan for answering my question about the questions in the questions in question
Notice: If you notice this notice you will notice that it is not worth noticing.
a strange correspondence
(trying to think of something to reply to the non-notice, but not this time)
that's right, Jonathan, same puzzle i haven't given up on yet.
the histogram for regular latin letters looks suspiciously english
but i haven't yet been able to tell if they resemble english in all the sentences
does the histogram for Korean letters not look English? :p
certainly do!
... as much as any 12 letters can ........... just for reference:
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Q: A Strange Correspondence

Jonathan AllanI voted to delete some questions on another SE site from two users due to them being garbled nonsense.* However when I got to the sixth I thought something looked suspicious, it looked to me like an encrypted correspondence since all the titles were fairly normal but all the posts were just stri...

HEX CODES                                               Apache:      Destiny:
                        Destiny:  Apache:  Destiny:
Destiny:      Apache:                                   Is this      Will this
                        Invalid   Is       Should the   a valid      succesfully
Can Asphalt   What is   connec-   this     operator     instruction  signoff
respond       the bug   tion      code     precedence   sequence     an Orion
to this?      here?     string?   wrong?   be changed?  in Stencil?  connection?
So, please, Jonathan, don't make go bat-trit-crazy,
are the latin letters used consistently in all sentences?
or am i gonna have to go looking in puzzles you've solved lately?
um, depends what you mean by consistently?
lol
no nothing came up!
I could add a not so useful hint maybe...
03:57
trying to read between the lines of your one-line response
guess i always ask for guardrails more than hints
just to spend less time on false leads
although false leads can become future puzzle ideas
added my not so useful hint
(going for a peek)
many many languages, eh?
well tell me your trail and I can (a) choose not to respond (b) affirm you are on the right path (c) tell you to try something else instead (d) say "what post?"
shouldn't it be tagged:
2
maybe :p it was for language fortnight
04:01
yup yep righto indeed
sandbox test:
[tag:multiline]
[tag:test] [tag:failed]
hey i did nothing but my fourth line didn't get a pencil
ok, J, guess i had no reason to think any of the languages might be english
maybe I should say how many?
but the latin letters do seem to have a language-like histogram
did anyone finish your 4-language matrix?
think so
good! i'll go look again. last time was interesting already
oh, no not yet
not fully solved
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Q: Vier Rows Siete Colonnes

Jonathan AllanAusfüllen the espacios vides 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 +----+----+----+----+----+----+----+ 1 | D4 | O1 | E3 | T1 | A1 | A2 | | +----+----+----+----+----+----+----+ 2 | F0 | O1 | T2 | D1 | | A1 | D4 | +----+----+----+----+----+----+----+ 3 | D3 | U1 | | T3 | C3 | O1 | S4...

04:07
not marked accepted
"Start by ignoring the digits of the codes, they depend on the things identified by the characters and will be a new challenge once you have discovered the content."
but i want to vote twice for the answer so far because of they way their language play matches yours
yeah a nice touch
could put bounty :p
aha, i'll chew on what you just quoted "Start by ignoring..." when i get a chance
speaking of bounties, had an idea :
challenge only bold to emphasize the word, it's not a clue
just I think that bit is probably much tougher
04:11
(can't switch gears successfully to swap that puzzle in enough to make full use of what you're saying, but will reread carefully)
it got one downvote really quick - I think someone just looked at it and thought "nothing to go on - bad puzzle"
I was just saying that the bit that hasn't been solved (the digits) is a new challenge after the first part (which is done)
downvote on "Vier Rows Siete Colonnes" right after you added the hint?
no before any hint
like 20 min after upload
the very first vote was - ? owie!
think so.
04:13
must've been the same person who downvoted the ghotey (sp?) answer
heh, I think I understand it though - it did just have four words in the title and four words in the text, in four languages and then a table of character digit pairs
still does, plus 3 hints
:)
it's all that's necessary. It was a "response" to the puzzles of LUNA really :)
so my bounty idea is to set and award them to good answers on my unpopular puzzles
did the lighting timer get a satisfactory answer??
3*
you have quite a few outstanding (double def) puzzles
04:16
lighting one's for the archives i guess
if you mean two-stagers, that's what i see in many of yours too, as well as more stages
unsolved & good
the month when Unfinished Puzzle Section and Chess Fortnight Is Over (forget the exact names) came out was a classic for multi-stage (meta i guess) puzzles!
my C puzzle got two great answers that seem to be getting ignored
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Q: ‘‘Loopy’’ C loop

humnWhat is the smallest number of visible characters that can be added in order to change the following code into a complete C program that prints  LoopyLoopyLoopyLoopy? #include<stdio.h> main(){ <-- ^ | @ | v --> printf("Loopy");} Starts as: 5 lines with no leading spaces, totaling 52 visible ch...

yet then came...
fortunately the answerers have enough points already (and then some) to comment and answer protected puzzles
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Q: A puzzling image maze!

f'' I was inspired by Rainbow Road Rabbit Hole to make a two-dimensional image maze where each image points to its neighboring rooms. Start here: Clarifications and corrections: Reassembly "Either... or..." statements are inclusive or. This means that both sides can be true at the same ti...

04:21
Cool! Hadn't noticed
:o
you never saw that?
that was a fun day for me!
or two?
oops, saw "active today" and misread it as "asked today"
oh just a tiny edit by f''
and yep, it has a downvote
ah, didn't notice that you were in on it
(snooping through edit history now)
has to be the most multilayered puzzle on the site
04:23
speak of (and type with) the devils!
the two multilayer puzzles i just mentioned were made by the two solvers most active on this one
.. as in Deusovi and JonathanAllan, if you've ever heard of them
lovers of good puzzles I believe
... and looks like the next most edits were, who else, the pos(t)er themself
f'' probably took 4 weeks putting it together
really! (to the last three of four things you just said since the last time i said "really!")
I imagine
have you seen how much is in there?
04:27
mostly skimmed it and still saw a lot!
each picture in the top picture of the answer is a puzzle
right
and i loved seeing how they combine into a 3D-like maze
and the bottom right one requires keys from three others
yi. ...... and, just noticed for the first time "APLASTICBAG"
04:30
but i keep forgetting another thing, about that non-0 puzzle from a couple of days ago
i think it took the poser longer to make that than for you to solve it
often the case with good puzzles I think
right again
meanwhile I am pondering this one
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Q: Even and Odd game

rasimYou are playing a game with your friend on a 7x7 grid board. In every turn, you begin by putting a $0$ (zero) on any available square on the board, and then your friend puts a $1$ (one) on a different available square. The game ends when there is no square available --i.e., all squares are mark...

at least the three hyperlayered ones we've just mentioned took good long times to solve
...and I thought a strange correspondence would be solved within the week
04:32
thread A. just took a peek at "Even and Odd game"
thread B. I thought strange correspondence would be solved by question_asker with a sneeze
thread A. looks like you have "Even and Odd game" to yourself, no activity for a week or so
i hadn't noticed it and am stuck on thread B in terms of long-term projects
thread A. what do you think of the 3 other solutions so far?
many many is not an exaggeration.
thread B. oooooh, that scares me a little, i only know many many computer languages
is it [tag language]?
hmm
syntax?
really? i was hoping they were
04:38
but your hint made think
i see you're having an important conversation here
are you saying that some computer languages use Korean letters?
of course, Deusovi, we were talking about you again
04:40
thanks for the guardrail! (but now i'm more scared again)
is even one of the languages English by any chance?
gonna update hints...
what is the space breaker between spoilers?
<!-- --> isn't quite right
</br>?
i've had luck with <!>
04:44
does the job thanks
oh I missed the line break yes <!> will do
can always tell who's learned HTML/XML the hard way
think i've see you, Jonathan, use <br /> and i sometimes still use <img .... /> from habit
(hope my ^Rs weren't slowing you down)
I am clueless about html :D
can't image who else it was then (a couple of months ago at least)
but those are hinty hints!
04:50
I probably have done
hinty hints :p
pretty sure someone (probably @Deusovi) guessed the non-natural language / alphabet
what could a non-natural language be that has letters but isn't a computer language?
well, hangul aren't technically natural
maybe @question_asker
no? You mean like French isn't technically natural?
what's the right word and I'll edit
speaking of q_a, when do we get to elect Deusovi and q_a our next moderators?!
my guess: 2 months
04:52
:P
who the hell knows
that's what was said (by someone else i think) 2 months ago
my comment about moderators is sincere.
aw, thanks c:
it's why I put "natural language" in quotes
04:54
does everyone else here, and q_a, know the answer but me? (about the non-natural language)
i don't
that was the answer to three logicians walk out of a bar
:P
i mentioned hangul since the korean syllabary was made up by a king in 1443
maybe "living language"
another made-up language would be esperanto i guess
04:56
yeah i was thinking a constructed language of some sort
oooboy, Jonathan, you might be dancing on the edge of a definition controversy: what really is a natural language?
all of a sudden i no longer know
they are all (with one exception) in-use human written languages (the other is an in-use written alphabet)
beat still, you've given us a lot to chew on (but you can bet what you just said will be included in the cud)

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