Puzzles Etc.

Wesley Situ

05:59

@LeppyR64 Another processed image for you! (minor spoilers but I think you've already thought of this already, so I've done some work) imgur.com/W5KS4rv I have an idea for the next step for these but I haven't been able to find the right fittings.

Lord of dark

08:54

Uryyb chmmyref

Anton

What

Oh hello @Lordofdark

Lord of dark

:)

Anton

Did you figure out what to do with the 18 letters ?

Lord of dark

Nope, still thinking about what could be AAAAEEFFILNNNNRUUV

Anton

well, you did something interesting while greeting us ;)

I wonder if you tried to do that on those letters in the first place.

Lord of dark

09:21

I can't find anything a the moment, I will have a look at it later

LeppyR64

09:52

@WesleySitu YEAH! No spoiler here. I'll have compare my chicken scratch notes.

L

LeppyR64

10:22

@WesleySitu Can you do a similar layout for the tombstones too? Put the one from the cat (the little one) off to the side preferably.

Anton

10:49

I've been thinking about the generalization of "make x distinct lines of y points with only z points" puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/1867/…

It's quite more like a math/geometry problem than a "lateral thinking" one, but whatever.

KoA

heyo

Anton

Hi @KoA

KoA

What's up

Anton

I finished Rudra no Hihou. the last boss was clutch.

Now back on track with some puzzle solving.

KoA

I've been heaps busy and still a bit sick

it's one hell of a virus that's been going around here

Lord of dark

11:15

where ?

KoA

Where I'm at in [REDACTED], Australia :p

someone should update the fortnightly topic to Science since it's leading now

I would but I'm tired already haha

if no one's done it by tomorrow, I'll do it then

Lord of dark

How many days should it last ?

KoA

a fortnight

question_asker

lol oh god. isn't that basically already the topic, all the time here?

KoA

11:31

maybe we'll get some actual good ones now

Lord of dark

I'd like to see the history challenge

I edit the challenge post

Lord of dark

11:47

0

Q: Fortnightly Topic Challenge #10: Science

Link to other Fortnightly Topics. This is the tenth installment of the Fortnightly Topic Challenge described here, with topics suggested and voted for here. This fortnight's topic is science (suggested by NeedAName), and will span from June 1st – June 14th. During this period, we will compile ...

question_asker

12:08

serious question: how in god's name was the un-checkmarked answer here ever even considered as an accepted answer?

Lord of dark

you're talking about Joe's answer ?

question_asker

yeah

Lord of dark

He would have found the right answer if it was based on the right word so I guess the OP felt guilty for his unclear question

(word in the puzzle has changed from LOVE to LUST)

question_asker

I mean, I guess I could see that if Joe's answer was the only one after the question had been up for a long time

but somebody arrived at the correct answer less than 24 hours after the question was posted, which isn't even a long time by our standards

lol here he is again, doing almost the exact same thing: puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/33469/an-addition-problem

Lord of dark

I think the OP did not know what to do with his mistake, Joe found every hint and had the right reasonning, just not the correct initial word. The accepted answer is like "reuse Joe's logic from the correct initial word"

question_asker

12:24

why would he think he deserves the checkmark there? he's literally just piggybacking off the correct answer to add a completely unnecessary bit of information.

@Lordofdark Maybe, but that actually gets the right answer.

Lord of dark

Yes but it's like somebody did 80% of the job, and another one just did the remaining 20% and found the solution. I don't say I agree with that, but I understand he can hesitate (still talking about the first puzzle)

question_asker

I mean, I get what you're saying, and I know that new people here sometimes get impatient about their questions not being answered (though certainly not all new people), but accepting an answer that's basically like "well, there's a 7, and something that looks like a 3, and two lines that if they went the other way would be a B" because your puzzle hasn't been answered in 20 hours is pretty goofy.

that second one is way more heinous, tbh

Lord of dark

I don't like the second one, it's has an easy obvious answer and then the OP was like "Hey, guess what was in my mind when I wrote "addition" !!"

question_asker

right

(I wouldn't call that answer 'obvious' but I agree)

Lord of dark

it was solved in 7 minutes :p

question_asker

12:31

yes and?

Lord of dark

that means it is, in a way, easy

question_asker

I mean, "obvious" is subjective to begin with, but one person figuring something out quickly does not mean it's easy

it was easy for that person, for whatever reason (inductive reasoning, luck, etc.)

Lord of dark

yes you're right

question_asker

in any case, one person did the work (however trivial you may consider it) and the second person, later, came along and correctly guessed the meaning intended by the OP

and that is literally just luck

LeppyR64

11

Q: A pirate's treasure-hunt

My dear puzzle friends, I need your help! An old acquaintance of mine has recently passed away and mentioned me in his will. I was quite thrilled, as the man was rather rich due to some clever investments during his lifetime. Unfortunately, he was as, hmm, unconventional as he was rich. He alway...

enigmatic-puzzles visual geography treasure-hunt

Question: This puzzle is huge. Is it wrong to create separate answers for the separate sections of the problem? I want to do it simply to make it easier for keeping track of everything, and don't care about the Rep. I don't want to set a precedent.

I suspect I have answered my question./

question_asker

12:38

some people don't like riddles, some people don't like math puzzles, and I'm sympathetic to both of those. but one type of puzzle that it seems like almost everybody hates, with good reason, is "next-image-in-the-pattern puzzles copied from an 'IQ test'"

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@LeppyR64 I have a feeling that would be poorly received.

I don't personally care but I imagine people would not like that

LeppyR64

Yeah, tbh, I wouldn't like it either.

question_asker

lol Yet Another puzzle where the trick is to use atomic numbers/symbols for no reason

jesus christ.

maybe I should make a meta post proposing to change the name of the site to "puzzles that involve the periodic table"

LeppyR64

@WesleySitu What are the red shapes on circles of the merged map that you gave me?

Anton

If the periodic table is used, there should be some story/context where chemistry is heavily hinted, imo.

question_asker

yes. but also, and this is crucial: stop doing that. the periodic table isn't clever or novel anymore as an encryption device

This one is bothering me and I'm probably going to groan with exasperation when it gets solved (if it's even solvable, which it doesn't seem like it is)

Lord of dark

12:48

Ahah I look at this puzzle on a daily basis but nothing changes, and hints are helpless

question_asker

the one I linked?

Lord of dark

Yes

Should we consider greek letters as latin letters ? δεκαδικός = dekadikoc

Gordon Allocman

Phew looks like I got in before the periodic table hate

also Jose Lopez is being a bit too antsy on this puzzle puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/33558/…

question_asker

dekadikos is just "decimal" which... wow. base 10 eh.

Anton

would it be better to say "base ten" ?

or "base A(16)" ?

question_asker

12:51

ah yeah, ok, "base ten"

but point being

Gordon Allocman

so I tested out my new concept for a puzzle last night and it didn't work out so well :/

question_asker

I don't think anybody was assuming the numbers in that were any other base (though, in OP's defense, that might not be what he's clarifying there, who knows)

Gordon K

@GordonAllocman I'm guessing he's the one who downvoted it too

question_asker

lol yeah that guy needs to acquire some chill

Gordon Allocman

few hours after posting "hey man, I can't solve this, are you sure it is actually solvable at all???"

Gordon K

12:55

And the same again an hour later

question_asker

lmao

Gordon Allocman

unfortunately I think I am going to have to defer to someone else to get that one unless a hint is added (not saying it needs a hint). I'm pretty stuck atm

question_asker

yeah this is what is absolutely stunning to me

both question-askers and question-answer-attempters are guilty of this

posts question ... 25 hours pass ... posts meta topic 'Is It OK to answer my own question if no one can solve it?'

Gordon K

His first comment on your answer was, however, useful.

Scoranio also pointed out something important.

question_asker

sees question ... 5 minutes pass ... posts comment 'yeah this is a bad puzzle. it's unsolvable with the information given. you should probably resign from posting puzzles'

Lord of dark

12:58

( oh no this is in hot : puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/33648/… )

Gordon K

Can we cool it down?

Make everything else hotter!

question_asker

21 mins ago, by question_asker

some people don't like riddles, some people don't like math puzzles, and I'm sympathetic to both of those. but one type of puzzle that it seems like almost everybody hates, with good reason, is "next-image-in-the-pattern puzzles copied from an 'IQ test'"

Gordon Allocman

I added the bear hug piece, not sure how to look at the peter/dumbo piece. I tried reverse image searching that zebra image but no luck, seems you may have made it youself. Not a place I immediately recognize

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Q: Recursion - keep going

More than one basin submerges - vassals take wrong end of ash for ships. Wit and aspiration, alongside, hold up to take supper at harbour - pint (swallowed whole?) gives purpose. Foremost three first (or four, we hear) recorded observations a tad misplaced. A success without us backing adm...

wordplay enigmatic-puzzles cryptic-clues

quick someone get this before Deusovi

question_asker

hahaha

that poster came on strong with those cryptic clue puzzles

Lord of dark

I need to learn how to solve cryptic clue puzzle one day

question_asker

13:04

me too

I mean. I "understand" but I can't do it.

Lord of dark

ahah I don't even understand how it works at the moment

And the tag does not explain, there is only a link to extern page

LeppyR64

13:20

Peter the elephant was the one that played the piano. Right?

Anton

By the way, the title "Two IQ Test puzzles nobody knows an answer to" looks reaaaally like clickbait.

"99% of puzzlers were wrong on this one !"

Gordon K

"Solve this puzzle and you will be rich in 30 days"

question_asker

one weird tri ck to solve IQ test discovered by a mom ! melt away pounds in h 0 urs

Gordon K

"The Puzzle that broke the internet, (now with naked pictures of <insert name of trending celebrity>)"

Anton

"Top 10 IQ puzzles that humanity has yet to discover !!!11!"

question_asker

13:35

6 Puzzles Whose Solutions Are The Exact Opposite of What Everyone Thinks - cracked . com

Jon Stewart EVISCERATES this poster's poor puzzle design - WATCH!

Gordon Allocman

@LeppyR64 nice catch, added to my answer

question_asker

Yass Queen Slay - What Beyonce Says In Response To This Cryptogram Is The Most Important Thing You'll Read All Day

Buzzfeed's 12 Most Feminist Rebuses

Gordon Allocman

so that cryptic clue one clearly becomes another cryptic clue after solving all of the given ones

question_asker

that's the impression I got, yeah

god now all I want to do is come up with gawker/buzzfeed-style clickbait headlines for puzzles

Anton

sorry :I

Gordon Allocman

13:42

it couldn't have been more obvious, which in this case is fine since there is no other indication of what to do

ok there are two things i strongly dislike on this site: placeholder hints, and hints that just tell you something you already know

question_asker

haha yes!!!!

(dunno what a placeholder hint is though)

Gordon Allocman

Do not tell me there will be a hint in a few days

do not tell me to look at the tags

question_asker

oh, yeah

Gordon Allocman

just give me an actual hint if you have a hints section

question_asker

yeah

Gordon Allocman

13:45

the only time hints telling me something you already know is ok is if it says like "the title is important" because that can be a big hint sometimes

question_asker

I'm all for people holding off on hints (see also: the rant from earlier about people being impatient about puzzles not being solved) but there's no need to say you're going to give hints unless you're ready to give them

Gordon Allocman

ooh I just realized I may be able to merge my two failing ideas into a working puzzle idea

but I will probably have to think of a third bad idea to merge with it as well

LeppyR64

@GordonAllocman That's what recursion is.

Gordon Allocman

haha I know

Lord of dark

ahah a few days ago i woke up in the middle of the night with an awesome puzzle idea but i couldn't make it work

Gordon Allocman

13:53

@Lordofdark just come up with a bunch of other not so great ideas and make them all small pieces of a bigger whole. Guaranteed success your experience may vary

Gordon K

I wasn't sure anyone was going to solve my cricket puzzle, but I just left it and then DanRussell and LeppyR64 cracked it over a month after it was posted.

No extra hints needed

Lord of dark

Ahah it's not a just bad puzzle, but a puzzle that does not work at the moment. I need to work on it a loooot to make it work and I'm not even sure it will work in the end

Gordon Allocman

@GordonK this map piece is killing me >.>

maybe I am making too big of an assumption that it is in africa though

Gordon K

It's not

Gordon Allocman

that explains why I couldn't find it :P

Gordon K

14:02

Larger population than the UK

Gordon Allocman

oh phew, I was really hoping it wasn't some Island I had to zoom in on in maps

Kinda looks a bit like Turkey

Gordon K

It does, doesn't it!

Gordon Allocman

which might make it a Zebra turkeyfish

Gordon K

It might indeed!

Now what do you know about #7?

Gordon Allocman

It is an internet provider in Oregon and the logo is a dog

Gordon K

14:07

Sorry, I meant #10

Gordon Allocman

the one about Maurice? he was known for his bear hug apparently

Gordon K

More obvious than that

Gordon Allocman

he is a human

Gordon K

Ok, a little more specific

Gordon Allocman

and from france

he is known as the french angel and the middle east kinda looks like an angel tin foil hat intensifies

Gordon K

14:11

@GordonAllocman First half of that line is useful, considering what you worked out about the map

Neon612

How about a french angelfish

Gordon Allocman

god damn it

Gordon K

Bingo

Gordon Allocman

2 seconds before me

im sensing a pattern

crocodile icefish for 11

Gordon K

yep

Gordon Allocman

14:19

feel like im getting somewhere maybe

1 is maybe a pearlfish if the theme is fish

fun (and gross) fact about pearlfish, they can live in the anus of Sea Cucumbers

LeppyR64

Well, and then you have the human anatomy, peter...

Tilapia is St. Peter's Fish

Neon612

#8 could be a goatfish but the W&B confuses me

Goatfish can change color

Gordon Allocman

yeah same here

as in W&B confuses me, not that I can change color

Neon612

Don't want to walk around purple

Gordon Allocman

says they can become pale to blend with sand and blue striped to mimic the blue striped snapper so maybe that is it

Gordon K

14:32

The W&B was intended to make the image more specific but, as it happens, the answer is the same if you ignore it.

Neon612

so Mullidae?

Gordon Allocman

I added it as a possibility

still not seeing the big picture though, and have a few left to get

Neon612

So does that mean #3 is a catfish

One that doesn't live in asia?

Gordon Allocman

specifically the Pimelodidae I think

Neon612

Does the upside-down cat mean anything?

There is an upside-down catfish

Gordon Allocman

14:37

probably just a typical picture of a cat

Gordon K

@Neon612 There is

There are a few, in fact

Gordon Allocman

definitely not the asian upside down catfish :P

Neon612

the Botched UD Catfish is the most common for aquariums

Family Mochokidae

Gordon Allocman

all of the non-asian ones are same family

Neon612

that makes it easy then

Gordon Allocman

14:43

Could 9 actually be a Flabby whalefish?

Gordon K

That was the intention

Gordon Allocman

I think the parrot could be a Blood parrot cichlid with a variation being the King Kong parrot fish, but that might be a strech

so cichlidae if that is the case

Gordon K

A king kong parrotfish would have looke more monkey-like

Gordon Allocman

good point

alright im stuck again :/ still need the bird,dog, and kangaroo. The peter one might be tilapia as lepy pointed out or something else entirely

Gordon K

I'd go with the "something else entirely" theory!

Neon612

14:54

How about a dogfish shark?

Gordon Allocman

I saw that, not sure how it fit the rest of the clue though

Neon612

Could the kangaroo not be important?

The arrow points to the sand

Gordon K

It might just be there for context

Gordon Allocman

kangaroo one could be southern sand fish, which lives near australia/new zealand coast

Neon612

So some sort of flat fish

Flounder?

Gordon K

14:59

@GordonAllocman Well spotted

Gordon Allocman

nice, making some progress

Neon612

Queen parrot fish, Scaridae

Maybe?

Gordon K

Yes

Gordon Allocman

damn hadn't thought about queen >.>

Lord of dark

Ok so if I understand cryptic clue correctly it is several hints to find a word (merged together in a line) and there can be a phonetic hint, a meaning hint...

Neon612

15:03

Is the broadband company location important, with the dog?

Gordon Allocman

it is from oregon, but can't connect that

Gordon K

Nope - just say what you see!

Neon612

It could be Chum Salmon, aka Dog salmon, family Salmonidae

Gordon Allocman

could be a prickly dogfish, as the slogan is being rude

Neon612

Or a bowfin, aka Dogfish, family Amiidae

Gordon K

15:06

The slogan is not significant

Gordon Allocman

darn, I thought that would be pretty funny

Neon612

Houndfish?

Gordon Allocman

thats a possibility

once we get all the fish, the tricky part is figuring out how that becomes the password too

Neon612

Peters' elephantnose fish, for #2, family Mormyridae

Gordon Allocman

nice find

brb, ping me if you get something

Gordon Allocman

15:34

back

heh, looks like deusovi got to the cryptic clue puzzle afterall :P

oohhh I just saw the answer to the flags question, which makes @question_asker 's comment about periodic table encryption make a lot more sense

LeppyR64

15:52

test

hmm

ok

now

that's the one

exploring the image size and detail in the name bar on the left

Gordon Allocman

16:04

ok im pretty sure goatfish is right, since there exists a white mullet and a black mullet (two types of goatfish)

still stuck on the dog part though

Neon612

how about a black dogfish (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_dogfish)

question_asker

16:19

@GordonAllocman haha, yeah, I wasn't just coming totally out of nowhere with that

Wesley Situ

@LeppyR64 The polygons on the map were already present on the map pieces. I made them red in case people missed that slightly off black color.

Gordon Allocman

16:40

@Neon612 that might just be it

LeppyR64

@WesleySitu and I did :)

Wesley Situ

also, what did you want with the other tombstones?

Gordon Allocman

Okay, assuming we have all of the pictures figured out, the families in order spell out cmmsslemcpc, which is not 20 chars not something searchable so not sure how to form the password from the clues

Neon612

The pictures aren't in numerical order, but that still doesn't help with the 20 char length

question_asker

chance this puzzle ever gets solved? I'm thinking somewhere between 0 and 0.001% puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/31146/sculptures-in-a-park

Gordon Allocman

16:46

The place is Sculpture Park, the park famous for its weird sculptures

Neon612

cmsccsmmpel

that doesn't help much

Gordon Allocman

maybe the numbers and order are both important

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Q: On the fringe between two countries: what am I?

I seem physical... On the fringe between two countries, I have no proper home, but make one for others. Standing proudly for all to see, my purpose is often to conceal. Heterogeneous, I am part smooth and part knobby. Exactly where I am at any moment depends on my frame of reference. Or do I ...

riddle

all I can think of is ocean/water

can't fit all the clues though

LeppyR64

@WesleySitu a merge of all of the tombstones and their locations in one picture. I don't know that it's necessary though.

Wesley Situ

@LeppyR64 I don't think it's necessary since they aren't too directly related. I think you should mark their locations down on the ring though :P

something else to note is that there are 5 crosses with a hexagram, and there are 5 hexagrams along the bottom of the ring... if that means anything

Gordon Allocman

17:02

in order if you take letters at their numbered positions you get dory c pecies. Not sure if that is getting anywhere

LeppyR64

Definitely about the ring.

question_asker

I think I dated a Dory C. Pecies

Gordon Allocman

I got it

Neon612

Anything to do with Dory from the finding Nemo movies?

Gordon Allocman

yup I got the answer, still missing a clue

the ball clue is wrong, it needs to start with an s

manshu

17:12

@question_asker Thanks for the help.

Gordon Allocman

got it

question_asker

@manshu I could still be wrong, but it's worth a try

Gordon Allocman

Finally figured this one out: puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/33558/…

Wesley Situ

:D

manshu

I think your explanation to that sentence was better.

Gordon Allocman

17:14

I really hope it is correct

I should reorganize it since the order shown is what is important not the numbers

manshu

That title reminds me of the song "My heart will go on" by KennyG

question_asker

good work on that one gordon

I keep forgetting that I can't tab-complete unless I've used an @ first

Gordon Allocman

alright, I think it is formatting a bit better now, I may still clean it up if it needs it. Do you guys think it is pretty clear now?

question_asker

I like it

Neon612

Looks good to me

question_asker

17:26

also, I'd say that's a pretty solid puzzle all over

Gordon Allocman

Yeah I thoroughly enjoyed it

question_asker

all the steps are consistent - you don't have to do a different thing to get answer #5 than what you did for answer #4, etc.

Gordon Allocman

pretty sure that is the most complex puzzle I will ever solve on this site :P

@Neon612 I put a footnote giving you credit for helping find some clues

Neon612

Thanks, it was fun all around

Gordon Allocman

I'm really glad I stuck with that, I was pretty ready to give up. I think the map piece was the biggest leap for me

and now I have nothing to do haha

Gordon Allocman

17:46

holy crap, that rube wordberg puzzle was solved. Never would have gotten that in a million years

@question_asker for a second I thought this was your puzzle puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/33694/…

question_asker

"oh man, q_a's asking math questions now. what happened??"

Gordon Allocman

I think strategy questions are just as bad as math questions. Also some guy asked if he could post the equivalent of math "puzzles" about chemistry and physics and was basically told "yeah sure"

question_asker

lol yeah I just saw that today

man. those bore me, and all, but I wouldn't care as much if we just let anybody post them

we could just ignore the tags and be done with it

Gordon Allocman

yeah

Wesley Situ

@LeppyR64 There are some more things I found on the map if these'll help you out with whatever part you're working on. If you take a look at the compass, the dots around the edge aren't symmetrical. If you take an even closer look at it. You'll find a 9x9 grid in the center with some squares lighter than the others. The graveyard also has a 9x9 size.

Gordon Allocman

17:52

I mean I will dv pretty many any I see, but thats ok

Lord of dark

I've updated the criptic tag co people like me can understand how it works : puzzling.stackexchange.com/tags/cryptic-clues/info

question_asker

@GordonAllocman same here

Gordon Allocman

@Lordofdark awesome wiki update man

Wesley Situ

@LeppyR64 Upon closer inspection, those whiter dots just seem to mark the location of the crosses and tombstones, so I guess those don't help too much...

Gordon Allocman

I have way too many favorites that probably will never be solved :/

question_asker

17:56

oh?

Gordon Allocman

at least 4, which I guess isn't that many

question_asker

that's a lot as far as I'm concerned

Gordon Allocman

heh my summer exam puzzle took only 18 revisions

*answer

manshu

I feel like Fortnightly Topic Challenges aren't special anymore to puzzlers here.

Gordon Allocman

the purpose is simply to get puzzles of a certain tag posted right? there is no winner or anything?

LeppyR64

18:06

@WesleySitu This guy's level of detail, wow. But at least we know that the door to the graveyard is in the South. the dots on the outside are certainly something

@WesleySitu I was thinking the line and squiggly on the crosses looked like hands on a clock.

manshu

@GordonAllocman Yes. But the purpose in not being fulfilled.

Wesley Situ

@LeppyR64 I thought so at first, but I think they're the path to where we'll need to do some graverobbing

@LeppyR64 I believe we'll have to unfold the 'dice' somehow onto the graveyard

Gordon Allocman

well there is no real incentive to post a question for the fortnightly. AFAIK it doesn't garner you anymore upvotes/views as opposed to just a regular old puzzle

LeppyR64

What's this about fortnightly?

Wesley Situ

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Q: Fortnightly Topic Challenge #10: Science

Link to other Fortnightly Topics. This is the tenth installment of the Fortnightly Topic Challenge described here, with topics suggested and voted for here. This fortnight's topic is science (suggested by NeedAName), and will span from June 1st – June 14th. During this period, we will compile ...

discussion featured topic-challenge

LeppyR64

18:09

@WesleySitu I agree about the unfolding. the patterns are listed on page 5 of the notebook.

Gordon Allocman

If anything posting for the fortnightly topic challenge is just fun for the poster to try to come up with a puzzle for that topic, I personally come up with puzzles on a whim so I can't really do much for the challenge

Wesley Situ

@LeppyR64 some faces on the dice have a hexagram with a line going out of it so I think the path that connects two of those is what we're looking for

manshu

Exactly.

I don't know how I come up with puzzles.

Gordon Allocman

also some people just like certain topics so the fortnightly topic isn't really for them either

Wesley Situ

It seems like that's what we have to do at least... according to the navigator i.sstatic.net/SZG8b.png

manshu

18:13

Yes.

question_asker

18:30

yeah I mean, yeah. the "purpose" of the fortnightly topic challenges is pretty much just to get puzzles of [topic] posted

it seems like an idea somebody had and abandoned

like it was originally meant to be something with a "winner" or something but it never went beyond the "idea" stage

Lord of dark

We can very easily change it to make a competition on the topic

One answer per on question on topic and then we vote

Gordon Allocman

I like the idea but I totally foresee a question having more votes on the meta than the question itself :P

Wesley Situ

all this fortnightly topic talk reminds me that we never solved @Deusovi 's chess fortnightly meta puzzle....

question_asker

I don't understand what you mean by "one answer per [on](?) question on topic and then we vote"

Lord of dark

woh it was unclear :

I mean we can had an answer to the "fortnight topic challenge" post for every question on topic., so we can vote for these question on the meta and see which one win the challenge

LeppyR64

18:40

@WesleySitu Link please.

Wesley Situ

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Q: Chess Fortnight is finally over!

(Note: the backstory here may or may not be entirely fictitious.) The fortnightly chess theme is finally over! I couldn't stand it. It was chaos! Pieces moving around in all the wrong ways... I was so angry that I made metapuzzles purely to tell everyone how much I hated it. Unfortunately, the...

wordplay chess cryptic-clues metapuzzles

LeppyR64

@WesleySitu So you made the picture with all the dice on them above their crosses. What happens if you orient them so that the little c shape mark is on the ground like on the ring, what's on the top?

Or alternatively so that they're all facing up.

Wesley Situ

@LeppyR64 I oriented them like the silver dice. so it's 1/6/5, 1/3/2, and 4/5/6 (top/left/right)

so if you'd like to see whats on the top, it would be face 4

I think the c shape mark is there to denote that face 1 will be on that square when we do the unfolding

@LeppyR64 I'll go ahead and try out your idea. The crosses do form a 4x4, where the clues from page 1 could be relevant

Lord of dark

@question_asker something like this ^

Wesley Situ

a bit biased for the votes, dont you think? ;)

some balancing issues could come up since people can also downvote

Lord of dark

18:51

what kind of balancing ?

Wesley Situ

suppose a band of close friends are on here. they can all +1 a specific one and -1 the rest

and then theres the people who just like everything and +1 everything

Gordon Allocman

That applies to any voting though, and voter fraud is a mod issue

Wesley Situ

theres also the situation where someone appreciates one puzzle enough that they'd also -1 the rest to make sure that one puzzle wins, which i wouldn't consider fraud

Gordon Allocman

so what are you actually suggesting then?

question_asker

@Lordofdark aha! Yeah, sorry, the way I originally read it felt like you meant "only one puzzle per challenge" which... surely that wasn't what you meant

yeah I see where wesley is coming from

Lord of dark

18:57

We can also take the upvote into account and not the downvotes

question_asker

I feel like this would only really work if you only got 1 vote, and could only vote in one direction

Wesley Situ

i was thinking that a voting system would be best off if theres only upvotes

Lord of dark

so you can only upvote for what you like but downvotes won't matter

Gordon Allocman

I like that idea

question_asker

that is, overall, I think that "voting" isn't really the best framework for this, at least not the way SE votes work

Wesley Situ

18:58

do mods have the ability to view the upvote/downvote count for all answers?

LeppyR64

@WesleySitu Ring: So "Quo Vadis" means "Where are you going" in Latin (odd since I was expecting French somewhere) we figured it was a map so no surprise there. The C shapes match the mark on the cross. When we unroll them there's going to be overlap because 16*6 = 96 and 9*9 = 81 so pigeonhole principle puts us on overlap. The markings on the bottom row seem to highlight a face.

Lord of dark

we all have

click on the vote count

question_asker

yeah, I think the 'not counting downvotes' option is a decent kludge

@Lordofdark You have to have a certain amount of rep for that

Lord of dark

Yes you need 1000 rep

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