Puzzles Etc.

question_asker

18:00

i ended up getting chicken biryani and onion bhaji and paneer pakora

Gordon Allocman

I exclusively use Windows 3 as my OS

manshu

@question_asker I had dinner half an hour ago and I am feeling hungry again after listening to this menu.

question_asker

you should eat those things

feelinferrety

@GordonAllocman Shift and click the refresh button, that's a total reset, not just a refresh.

manshu

@question_asker I have certainly eaten paneer pakoda and onion bhaji. But not chicken biryani.

question_asker

18:02

it's kheyli khoshmaze

but the biryani I get from the cart is better than the one I'm eating now

manshu

ttyl...have the food first.

Gordon Allocman

@feelinferrety didn't do anything, but good to know in case I have to do that in the future

question_asker

(ctrl-shift-R also works if you, like me, are too lazy to move your mouse)

manshu

facepalm

Will

If you open developer tools in chrome (F12) and right click reload, you can empty cache and hard reload all in one go

feelinferrety

18:08

q_a I would have said that, but from Gordon's previous response, I assumed he's got some custom shortcuts going on

@Will :O As someone who uses the inspector every damn day, HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS

Khale_Kitha

lol

If you ever did web page QA, you'd have figured it out, eventually, I promise =D

feelinferrety

I'm a developer at a small firm. We don't QA. We just push and wait for complaints. XD

Khale_Kitha

Yeah, my new company doesn't have QA - it's a bit odd, but I check what I do anyways, so my goal was always to make there be n othing for QA to find.

Matt

in chrome dev tools, there's also a setting to disable cache when dev tools is open

feelinferrety

Seriously though, almost everything works in all modern browsers, and our contracts say we don't support anything older, so meh.

Can i haz upload... btn?

OH, it only works when empty.

IGNORE ME.

Gordon Allocman

18:12

Doing the empty cache hard reload does not cause the icon to change btw

feelinferrety

8

Did you guys plan this?

Khale_Kitha

hahaha

feelinferrety

@manshu @question_asker

Khale_Kitha

q_a's pic could also work to the left of Will's

feelinferrety

Now if we could just get f" to speak in some order with them

Ben Braun

18:14

I suppose I should leave, f"" should leave and rejoin

Matt

I should probably get a pic ...

feelinferrety

It's not join order, it's post order

Ben Braun

er no nevermind that won't do it

feelinferrety

Me and Will together would be funny

Khale_Kitha

It's actually activity order - joining puts you to the front, as does posting something or editing something (proof)

manshu

18:14

lol

feelinferrety

Yeah, that.

question_asker

hahaha

quick manshu, talk

manshu

what

Khale_Kitha

lol

question_asker

nice

manshu

18:15

why

Will

ha

feelinferrety

ha

cr0

ha

ffao

xD

Khale_Kitha

Did you see what feelinferrity commented, manshu?

@Will, @feelinferrety, @cr0, All your base, are belong to us?

manshu

18:15

@Khale_Kitha ofcourse I did. ;)

feelinferrety

@Khale_Kitha XD XD XD

question_asker

excellent work today everyone

feelinferrety

Woo! Stars :3

4

@question_asker Agreed. Now shut up so I can get real-world work done.

manshu

@feelinferrety no

question_asker

ok

feelinferrety

18:17

:P

Khale_Kitha

It needs 3 stars, to match his emoticon.

There we go

feelinferrety

B'awww, thanks guys

manshu

don't increase the number of stars on that message now

3 stars looks great for that

Khale_Kitha

:P

feelinferrety

That's like telling people not to upvote something that already has a score of 69 or 666.

Khale_Kitha

18:18

You said don't increase

ROFL, and someone added one as I put mine back

HAHAHAH

manshu

dammit

Will

oops.

feelinferrety

LMAO

manshu

:D

Gordon Allocman

Looks like I was a trend setter

Khale_Kitha

18:19

:P

feelinferrety

Fk me, I'm losing it over this stupid star battle

STAR WARS

Khale_Kitha

haha

question_asker

I posted a screenshot of my "recent transactions" to instagram the other day because it was $69.69

manshu

who is playing stars-stars?

Khale_Kitha

...As i put a star on feelinferrity's img link, then have to click it to find out what I starred.

feelinferrety

18:21

gahhhh why is istock being a b*tch today

Will

4

manshu

being a BTech?

Will

three threes

question_asker

B*Witched

manshu

@Will that's what I was talking about at that time

Khale_Kitha

18:21

Does that work like flickr, or is it all just stock images that some arbitrary person puts up?

feelinferrety

It's run by Getty, so they're quality

Khale_Kitha

ah

watermarked?

Then again, it looks like it's a sub site, so probably not

feelinferrety

@Will And now this has 3 stars. My work here is done. 8)

2

Khale_Kitha

:P

manshu

Gordon Allocman

18:24

3meta5me

manshu

I have soooo many pictures with the name "sdfsdfsdf"

Khale_Kitha

lol

See, that's why I have a printscreen tool that puts all images in a folder and autonames them - and I set the folder to show me things by modified date =D

feelinferrety

@manshu Time to start naming them lkjlkjlkj

Will

I used to have one of those, then it stopped working. Now I use Lightshot.

manshu

My hand doesn't reach that far.

Maybe I'll delete some of them. :p

feelinferrety

18:26

@manshu How far can this go?

question_asker

@manshu when I'm not naming my files "poop_ass" or similar, I'm naming them asfqwfq

2

Khale_Kitha

Yeah, I just use Gadwin Printscreen (the new version is trash - just don't), because it's lightweight and works, nicely

Gordon Allocman

my screenshots are all named [email protected](1)

5

manshu

just to asdfg...and as my little finger doesn't type too much, so leave the "a" as well

question_asker

a famous man once told me that he liked my song but was annoyed that he had to publicly praise something called "fartsong two"

I have a problem, in my brain

feelinferrety

18:28

DAMMIT I CAN'T LEAVE NOW

Khale_Kitha

heh

feelinferrety

I seriously have to launch this website today

Khale_Kitha

Places laptop into rocket Turns key Presses 'Launch' button

manshu

I gotta leave now..I have to wake up in five and half hours if I sleep now (which I prolly won't).

Khale_Kitha

Hacks website and places picture of Launch, from Dragonball, all over it Website Launched.

3

question_asker

18:30

good luck manshu! I almost typed 'good lunch manshu'!

Khale_Kitha

hahaha

Good launch, manshu!

question_asker

lmao @ "launched"

manshu

thanks

question_asker

hahahahaha, manshu's picture just dropped off the sidebar, only to be immediately replaced by manshu's picture

Khale_Kitha

@manshu You keep using this word. I do not think it means...what you think it means.

question_asker

18:32

it's the chatroom version of just staying within the confines of a revolving door

Khale_Kitha

haha

Manshu is our Austin Powers

feelinferrety

Thank god there is nobody in the open-space part of the office but me

Khale_Kitha

haha

f''

the entire sidebar is from the last 20 minutes

feelinferrety

I have had so many unexplainable outbursts of laughter this afternoon

Khale_Kitha

18:33

Haha, true, f"

Good thing I'm WFH today.

manshu

I get the notification and what the duck I see.

feelinferrety

Okay, lunch ordering time. That description of the pakora and bhaji and biryani has inspired me.

I work within delivery distance of Chicago's IndoPak area. :D

question_asker

I really want to know the "real" answer to the graph puzzle

feelinferrety

Which one? If it's been posted in the last 2 days, I've not gotten to it yet. u_u

Khale_Kitha

I have a plastic bag answer for you...

The answer is red, because he copied his answers from the teacher's key.

question_asker

18:43

8

Q: A case of academic misconduct?

A friend of mine is a professor at a nearby university. Last week, he gave three of his students a simple assignment: conduct an experiment (all three of them separately and independently from each other), and record the development of a single value over time. And indeed, a few days later, all o...

@Khale_Kitha lol

the only decent answers tend to make assumptions about where exactly the data points lie

Khale_Kitha

yeah

question_asker

and they might be the intended answer, but... unless the puzzle tells us, there's no reason to make that assumption

Khale_Kitha

Judging by recent comments....hmm

The numbers may be arbitrary

Ben Braun

these new clarifications are weird

question_asker

yeah

Khale_Kitha

18:47

I wonder - did I ever change my strange profile text?

hah, nope

question_asker

@BenBraun given the clarifications, it seems strange for him to say "well they're all integers except yellow has some x.5 values"

Khale_Kitha

Maybe the key is trying to figure out what that "single value" is

Gordon Allocman

So I think I made some progress on that opposites question, but I still feel no closer to an actual answer :/

Khale_Kitha

Might not be a number, but something actually observable

Yeah, saw it, just now, Gordon

question_asker

@Khale_Kitha That was my original assumption

Khale_Kitha

18:49

Stands to reason, at least, since he says this is an experiment they're monitoring

question_asker

and that was the reason I answered the way I did (though I'm not convinced of my answer - it definitely sets that dataset apart from the others, but it's not enough to make me actually suspicious)

Khale_Kitha

Though this puzzle is annoying...

The added clues make me think this might end up being a "d'uh" puzzle, when it's done.

question_asker

the graph puzzle?

Khale_Kitha

yeah

Ben Braun

this puzzle makes me want to do another look alike

Khale_Kitha

18:51

Clearly, I can't prove it, but still

Ben Braun

I like the concept of this puzzle and I think there's a lot of cool ways to do it

question_asker

haha

yeah

I agree

I liked deusovi's idea, the other day, about rehabing old "looked cool but ended up sucking" puzzles

Khale_Kitha

One thing to note...

All of the lines go up, down, up, down, etc...

Except that...

Blue ONLY goes up, down, up, down, etc

And red/yellow both have a repeated direction, at least once

Ben Braun

yeah QA gave this as an answer

I think it's one of the better answers floating around but the question asker didn't like it

Khale_Kitha

Ah, never saw the update - haven't looked at the questoin recently

Wesley Situ

18:54

wouldn't it be red?

theyre all lazy people

yet red recorded his data at perfect intervals

Khale_Kitha

I wondered that, too, Wesley

Red did more measuring

yeah

Wesley Situ

the other ones would forget to record data

question_asker

I think this is a missing-information puzzle

like

Khale_Kitha

I think that seems reasonable, Wesley

He's the only one with exact intervals

Wesley Situ

had anyone posted that solution? theres so many answers i dont want to read through them all lol

question_asker

18:56

there are too many potentially correct answers (and also, note that the actual question is vague - "which student OR STUDENTS would this professor maybe think about calling into his office and why")

Khale_Kitha

Tab Alleman did

Ben Braun

yes that was posted, something about red having very consistent measurement intervals

Khale_Kitha

but it hasn't been responded to

Will

I'm surprised there aren't any too broad CVs on that one tbh

question_asker

yeah

Khale_Kitha

18:56

A lot fewer people can VTC now

question_asker

@Will to be fair, I don't think it was obvious that it was too broad until just recently

Khale_Kitha

I think the answer is a combination of Tab's and f"'s.

Red is cheating as he picked numbers from 0-36 and placed them, randomly, at a perfect interval through the whole experiment.

But really - without knowing what the experiment is, we can only speculate.

question_asker

yeah

Matt

I don't understand all the energy getting put into this puzzle

question_asker

a lot of info is missing - we didn't even know that a) the values were integers (except for some of yellow's) or b) that integer values weren't suspicious until we were told

Khale_Kitha

19:00

I gave up on it a long time ago, but q_a dragged me back - closed it again :P

Matt

all of the lines are different in their own way

question_asker

lol

Matt

it's a "guess what I'm thinking" situation

Khale_Kitha

Especially since we don't even know that only 1 student cheated

2 or 3 could have

question_asker

right

Khale_Kitha

19:01

in which case. "He calls all three of them in, because he told them to monitor the height of a flower over a month's time, and they gave random numbers."

question_asker

THAT is explicit in the question, that it could be zero or all of the students

Matt

he doesn't call in any of them because he's just as lazy as they are

Khale_Kitha

As I toss no-computers on that new puzzle before someone tries to brute force it anyways. LoL

f''

@Khale_Kitha there are places where blue's line goes in the same direction twice, they're just hard to see

Khale_Kitha

Since the answer is: 650+68782+68782==138214

Between the 4th and 5th vertex?

I wasn't sure

f''

19:06

yeah, that line is bent

Khale_Kitha

Ah

f''

also there should be one near the right that's actually two segments with the same slope

Khale_Kitha

Then Tab(iirc?)'s answer is most likely given the current information (combined, possibly, with yours regarding 0-36), imo

f''

8-11-14 just looks like 8-14 with no number in the middle

Khale_Kitha

Is it bad that I just got a random, amusing, idea for a puzzle from one with -10 votes in the review queue?

question_asker

19:17

@f'' Where are you getting the values from?

humn

(question_answerer, you watching?)

question_asker

@f'' as in, how on earth would you guess that 8-11-14 isn't 8-14?

@humn What should I be watching!!!

f''

@question_asker it makes all the intervals the same length, and also makes the values a continuous range

humn

q_a, i have a whimsical puzzle based on something you said

f''

I assume that's what the OP intended

question_asker

19:19

ah, OK

humn

and wanted you to have a chance when i post it

question_asker

still... more assumptions

humn

(here goes....)

question_asker

(which, btw, is not a knock against you, @f'', just the OP for making us guess what he or she is thinking)

@humn cool thank you!

humn

1

Q: The lists of Adrian Puzzlinger

Adrian Puzzlinger has gone missing. Even worse for puzzle lovers, the puzzle that Adrian was solving is missing as well. Detectives are puzzled by the imprint of staggered lists of numbers on a notepad on the desk in the puzzle room of Adrian Puzzlinger. $$\small \boxed{ \begin{matrix} ...

enigmatic-puzzles puzzle-identification

(sorry to interrupt, couldn't resist) [back to "work"]

question_asker

19:27

fudge!

Khale_Kitha

Butter, powdered sugar, chocolate chips, ......oh sorry.

question_asker

haha

Khale_Kitha

Sorry, @humn - Couldn't resist.

question_asker

gosh I'm going to be annoyed when someone who isn't met gets this puzzle

oh my god mathnet

Khale_Kitha

haha

question_asker

19:36

KK I was literally just thinking about that the other day

Khale_Kitha

Yeah, I've thought about it, a few times, on this site =D

question_asker

there was an episode where someone's name was Li (or Lee) So

and the main guy said something like "that ain't necessary, Lee So"

and that awful fucking pun stuck with me for the rest of my life

Khale_Kitha

I'm missing it.

question_asker

(also there was once a character named D. John Mutard)

It Ain't Necessarily So

"It Ain't Necessarily So" is a popular song with music by George Gershwin and lyrics by Ira Gershwin. The song comes from the Gershwins' opera Porgy and Bess (1935) where it is sung by the character Sportin' Life, a drug dealer, who expresses his doubt about several statements in the Bible. == Melody == In the song, the melody for the words "It ain't necessarily so" resembles the melody for the words "Bar'chu et adonai ham'vorach", at the beginning of the aliyah blessing before reading from the Torah. == Versions == The role of Sportin' Life was created by John W. Bubbles. Other notable...

Khale_Kitha

necessarily - ah - yeah, Never eard the song =D

or heard it.

Rofl @humn

@humn I think, normally, the tag is used for trying to figure out a puzzle, but, given its description, I don't see why it cannot be used for this purpose.

question_asker

19:42

yeah - I think the term I'd seen used for puzzles like this was "reverse puzzling"

but tagging it with Puzzle Identification works just as well as far as I'm concerned

Khale_Kitha

All of those integer series show up in theOEIS

Though not together

question_asker

well

Khale_Kitha

and not vertically

question_asker

the difference between the numbers in the first two rows is (3, 4, 5, ... 8)

and the difference between the numbers in the 3rd and 4th rows is (7, 6, 5,...2)

Khale_Kitha

gah, you confused me

question_asker

19:45

and the last row... obviously is just a sequence counting up

Matt

there are 25 unique numbers present

Khale_Kitha

I see what you're trying to say

Matt

40 is the only unique number in the last row

question_asker

Khale_Kitha

Can't find any useful information on what type of puzzle it is, yet

Though the pattern in your image is

33 77 1

question_asker

19:47

for reference - the lighter color is the original numbers, the darker bg is the differences between (horizontally) adjacent numbers

Khale_Kitha

+1, +1, -1, -1, 1

So the next number in each series is easily deducable, if we cared

since the differences would be 9, 9, 1, 1, 1

question_asker

a worthwhile question might be: are we working down from the top or up from the bottom?

Khale_Kitha

technically, 36 and 37 are a bit out of place

The other question is: Are these numbers slanted, or were they interpreted incorrectly during the rubbing?

The 3rd question is: Do either of those questions matter?

Wesley Situ

i think they're purposefully staggered

question_asker

I am going to make the assumption that they are meant to be staggered

which is what made me think of "differences"

like you'd have a list of numbers and write the differences between them offset slightly

Khale_Kitha

19:51

Well..

Also keep in mind...

These aren't the numbers he was using, very likely

Whatever was on the paper he used, we can't see - this is the portions that he wrote on that paper

question_asker

well right

these seem like they represent some kind of relationship between whatever (numbers? I assume) was on the original page

Khale_Kitha

yeah

question_asker

I mostly showed the differences to show that, whatever these numbers are, they have a certain progression about them

Khale_Kitha

Presumably, the puzzle he was working didn't get solved.

Wesley Situ

or he solved it and has gone out on a trip to find that treasure

question_asker

19:54

I do feel like the staggering implies that there should be something "between" the numbers

Khale_Kitha

Yeah, it feels like he wrote these numbers between existing numbers for a specific reason

Wesley Situ

the only time i've used staggering would be to find the formula of a sequence of numbers

question_asker

right

Khale_Kitha

maybe they were on a checker board drawing =D

question_asker

that also crossed my mind

but, here's the thing:

it's nearly 4PM on a friday

which means I need to leave work now

I'll be thinking about this on the train home and checking the site and this chat to see if anybody has made progress and/or solved it

Khale_Kitha

20:01

Interesting that there's no number sequence tag on it

Matt

did you see the answer to the alphametic?

Khale_Kitha

No, I didn't look

...

The fact that no one can vote to delete answers is awesome...

Matt

I feel bad downvoting it

Khale_Kitha

I just flagged it

He made a random comment that's not even an attempt at an answer.

Matt

20:18

it is his attempt at an answer, but I guess it's his fault for not understanding an alphametic before posting a solution to one

question_asker

20:30

Did a comment get deleted or something? I don't see what you guys mean (looking at mobile app now)

Matt

20:44

it's still there for me on puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/32116/numbers-letters-2-0

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