The Bakery

Jivings

19:00

It doesn't matter if it's relevant because you can close on the basis that it's completely subjective.

@OliverSalzburg What was that referring to?

Oliver Salzburg

@Jivings The comment in the meta thread.

6

Q: Should we enforce consistent abbreviating?

So far I've seen "RPi", "RP", "Rasp Pi", and "The Pi". I know it might not truly matter, but should we stick to a consistent format to avoid confusion? I've been edited a few times on StackOverflow for using abbreviations, saying that they make questions and answers confusing in the first place....

dunsmoreb

It has been a week since the question was asked. I think it is safe to say that the majority has decided that we aren't abbreviating.

Jivings

@OliverSalzburg Are we really that concerned about it?

Oliver Salzburg

@dunsmoreb So we should start actively editing then?

dunsmoreb

@OliverSalzburg I think we should.

Oliver Salzburg

19:03

@Jivings Yes. I share the sentiment that it will be a huge pain when we move on it later.

Jivings

Alright then. I think the simplest solution is to not abbreviate at all.

Oliver Salzburg

In my opinion, setting the right signal at an early stage is import.

dunsmoreb

Cool.

Jivings

ACarter keeps proposing that same edit to waterproofing.

I've declined it three times.

dunsmoreb

Who would subscribe to waterproofing?

Is it even a good tag?

Jivings

19:05

> Waterproofing is the process of protecting something from water

Hey guys, did you know that Waterproofing is the process of protecting something from water?

Oliver Salzburg

@dunsmoreb I don't know how many questions one can ask about that. Once it's waterproof, I guess you're pretty much done.

dunsmoreb

@OliverSalzburg I propose that we edit it out of existence.

Jivings

Agreed

dunsmoreb

Coolio.

Jivings

At least then I wont have to decline the wiki anymore.

dunsmoreb

19:07

@Jivings Haha.

Oliver Salzburg

@dunsmoreb Agreed as well. Maybe retag as case?

Jivings

@OliverSalzburg Good idea

dunsmoreb

Well this one doesn't have to do with case.

12

Q: Can the Pi be potted in epoxy?

In order to completely waterproof some basic electronic circuits, I've often used potting epoxy to stop anything getting to the internals. However, this has mainly been with stuff using PDIP, which is must more robust than the smaller packages the chips on the Pi use. Can I safely use this appr...

epoxy

And the other one is already tagged as case.

Jivings

What are we thinking about:

0

Q: Should I create a new user for Debian?

I am interested to know if there may be any security or permissions related reasons for creating a new user. I am using the Debian Squeeze operating system from the Raspberry Pi website.

debian operating-systems

Oliver Salzburg

Well epoxy isn't so great either, is it? :D

dunsmoreb

19:08

I would say VTC.

Jivings

"Not a real question"

Andrew Fogg

hello

dunsmoreb

@OliverSalzburg Ikr?

@AndrewFogg Hello.

Jivings

Oh hi Andrew.

Andrew Fogg

:)

Jivings

19:08

We were just talking about you :)

dunsmoreb

@Jivings Not constructive.

Andrew Fogg

I saw

thought I would sign in to say hi

Jivings

@finnw Can we discuss your SDL issue in a new room. Whenever you get back.

dunsmoreb

@Jivings Which room?

Jivings

Private room.

;)

dunsmoreb

19:10

Maybe I wanted to help... D=>

Jivings

Oh yeah. You can use your Pi.

dunsmoreb

Use my Pi?

I'm not getting it until August-ish.

Oliver Salzburg

@dunsmoreb I still think case somewhat applies. I understand epoxy is not a case in the classic sense, but it serves a similar purpose in this context. I think case would be more useful than a tag that will only apply to a very small set of questions (like epoxy).

dunsmoreb

@OliverSalzburg How about components?

Jivings

@dunsmoreb I was joking

dunsmoreb

19:12

@Jivings I wish you weren't... D=>

Oliver Salzburg

@dunsmoreb Sounds a bit generic. But in the context of that question, it seems like that could come up again.

dunsmoreb

@OliverSalzburg Well it does apply to the RPi's components.

Oliver Salzburg

@dunsmoreb Yes, but not all new users might get that. And then they use the tag on all kinds of questions. Maybe they're trying to install a "software component". Suddenly the tag is used on all kinds of questions and it becomes useless.

dunsmoreb

@OliverSalzburg I'm writing a tag wiki right now. =P

Oliver Salzburg

You usually think "Nothing can go wrong with this tag!", until one day...

8

Q: The DOS tag is ambiguous

As it is, the dos tag is ambiguous. Even the tag wiki excerpt is split: DOS is an acronym for "Disk Operating System." DoS is an acronym for "Denial of Service." Do not use this tag for questions about Windows command line programs or scripts. To make matters worse, nobody seems to read th...

discussion retag-request tags tag-synonym-request

And I bet that is a joke compared to some retagging on SO :D

Jivings

19:17

Hah, interesting

dunsmoreb

Bamn.

raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/suggested-edits/221

Andrew Fogg

I want to share my rationale with regards to the questions that I have been asking (because they have been attracting up votes and down votes) and see what people here think.

I got my Pi a couple of weeks ago

and then started playing around with it and setting it up once this beta started

Jivings

Please share :)

Andrew Fogg

every genuine question that I had I have posted to the site

I took care to read around the meta.raspberrypi site before beginning

Jivings

@AndrewFogg I'm guessing you had little linux experience beforehand?

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Andrew Fogg

19:20

:-)

background on me:

dunsmoreb

It's just that some of these questions are more about Linux than the RPi.

Andrew Fogg

i am comfortable on the command line on *NIX environments

@dunsmoreb

@dunsmoreb I understand

i am comfortable on the command line but I am NOT experienced with Linux

however, every question I have that was Linux related I could have worked out myself by Googling

My decision to post the questions has been based on the answers on this question on meta

dunsmoreb

We don't discourage Google questions, by the way.

Jivings

@AndrewFogg tbh, we need more people like you actively involved in shaping the site.

As it is we tend to be only one type of user. Usually those with Linux experience.

And that can be off putting for new users.

Andrew Fogg

9

Q: Raspberry Pi itself vs. specific OS issues

We should discuss what to consider a valid question for this site. We can expect many questions that are not Raspberry Pi-specific at all but rather specific to Linux itself or a particular piece of software. Should we direct them to other Stack Exchange sites or answer the question here?

discussion

dunsmoreb

19:23

Ah yes, probably the most controversial question we have on meta.

Jivings

Indeed.

dunsmoreb

Robert's answer was merged in yesterday from another question.

And has already garnered five votes.

Andrew Fogg

From the way it looks, the two of you @dunsmoreb and @Jivings are two of the most active people on this site but your answers on that "Raspberry Pi itself vs. specific OS issues" are voted way down

:)

Jivings

Hmm

dunsmoreb

Haha.

Jivings

19:25

Being active doesn't mean I'm right.

Andrew Fogg

(that's a friendly smile)

:)

Jivings

I understand your point.

Andrew Fogg

all your answers to questions are great by the way

Jivings

I may re-answer that question with my experience until now

dunsmoreb

@Jivings Which question?

Jivings

19:26

The meta question.

dunsmoreb

Okay.

@AndrewFogg Just noticed your British.

Andrew Fogg

yep

Jivings

@AndrewFogg Can you give me a summary of your opinion on the meta question. Based on your experiences.

Andrew Fogg

@Jivings My experience of the raspberrypi.stackexchange site or my experience of the Raspberry Pi or something else?

my experience of the Raspberry Pi itself

Jivings

Of the site

About this question meta.raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/24/…

dunsmoreb

19:32

What do you think our policy should be?

Jivings

Do you think your questions about Linux belong here?

Andrew Fogg

me personally, I think that the Linux questions that I have asked so far should be here

dunsmoreb

What about this one?

6

Q: How do I install new software?

I am aware that Linux distributions usually have 'package managers' to allow me to download and install software from the command line and that I should also be able to download and compile source code from the web but I am not sure about how best to do either of these things on the Raspberry Pi.

debian setup update package-management

Andrew Fogg

(sorry, being a bit slow to type)

Jivings

No problem.

Andrew Fogg

19:35

I agree with what seems to be the consensus on the meta question

which i would summarise as

linux questions that relate to using the raspberry pi have a home here

as for the installing new software question

i can tell you how i got to asking that question

i wanted to install a python library

Jivings

Go on

Andrew Fogg

so I thought "right...

pip or easy_install

obviously neither of these libraries is installed already with the Python distribution that comes on the Pi

so the next thing

was that I would try and curl them down onto my system

dunsmoreb

Okay...

Andrew Fogg

(I can't remember which one, I think it is pip recommends downloading via curl)

but curl isn't installed either

as you can see...

not much experience of linux

:)

dunsmoreb

The problem I have with that question is that it is not Raspberry Pi specific at all.

If it was something like.

> How can I compile software for ARM?

Then I would consider it on-topic, as ARM is something the RPi is based on.

Andrew Fogg

19:40

i know about package installers (I was trying to install one after all) I just didn't know about APT

a bit of googling and I knew what to do

stack exchange sites are great because when you google

...questions you get answers

on stack exchange sites

i imagined myself googling "how do i install curl on my raspberry pi"

myself = new user

dunsmoreb

How do you feel about the three VTC?

Did you feel offended or upset?

Andrew Fogg

@dunsmoreb regarding your off-topic / on-topic comment earlier...

I made sure that I read meta.raspberrypi before posting ANY questions

and from my reading of the answers and the votes on the "Raspberry Pi itself vs. specific OS issues" question i decided that such questions were welcome

dunsmoreb

Okay...

Andrew Fogg

@dunsmoreb as to the VTC, personally I am ok with that

i know how Stack Exchange works

Jivings

I'm worried it might alienate Raspberry Pi users who don't have SE experience.

But I guess that's true about all SE sites.

dunsmoreb

19:46

@Jivings Same.

Jivings

Anyway, I would like to propose a new Acid Test for off topic questions.

Andrew Fogg

@Jivings go on

dunsmoreb

@Jivings I'm listening...

Jivings

> If you remove the words 'Raspberry Pi' from the title and question, does the question still stand on its own, or would it be more suitable elsewhere?

dunsmoreb

Awesome start.

How about this though?

Andrew Fogg

19:47

heh

@dunsmoreb heh

dunsmoreb

> If you remove the words 'Raspberry Pi' from the title and question, would you be able to say for sure that the question is about Raspberry Pi?

6

Jivings

That's much better.

dunsmoreb

Pinny?

Jivings

I'm going to make a community wiki question on meta.

Andrew Fogg

I saw Joel Spolsky talk to a small audience of developers a month or two back

dunsmoreb

19:49

Coolio.

Andrew Fogg

and he said that for him / Stack Exchange

what was important was the people who got their through google

Jivings

I can understand that.

Andrew Fogg

just look at the stats on stack overflow

dunsmoreb

Yes, the goal is for SE to become the ultimate Google destination.

Andrew Fogg

roughly (or at least proportionally)...

hundreds of answers

hundreds of 'answerers'

thousands of askers

millions of viewers / readers

if you see what I am getting at

:-)

dunsmoreb

19:51

No. What are you trying to make?

Sorry, not trying to be rude.

Andrew Fogg

obviously on a log scale or something...i.e. MANY more viewers

Oliver Salzburg

Jivings

Are you okay with the off topic test @AndrewFogg?

Andrew Fogg

i would propose an acid test that speaks to the need of the googler

dunsmoreb

@AndrewFogg Not viable.

Oliver Salzburg

19:52

The last sentence pretty much sums up how it is divided on every successful SE site.

Andrew Fogg

an off-topic acid test like...

dunsmoreb

We can't cater to every Googler.

Andrew Fogg

i understand

hold on

I realise this isn't an off-topic acid test but it is a question for the two of you @dunsmoreb and @Jivings

when a user googles "how do i install software on my raspberry pi" do you want an answer from this stack exchange site to be the top hit?

i understand that search is ill-formed

in so far as it is not about the raspberry pi as such but about the operating system that is installed on it

but i am "thinking of the children"

as it were

:-)

Jivings

You have a point.

Andrew Fogg

all those kids / hobby users / 'recreational users' who are going to get a Raspberry Pi with a preloaded SD card and for whom this is their VERY FIRST experience of Linux

once they get into it they will realise the subtleties

dunsmoreb

19:59

Maybe an OS FAQ?

I know Stack Overflow has one for C++.

Andrew Fogg

@dunsmoreb not a bad idea

dunsmoreb

c++-faq stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/c%2b%2b-faq

Andrew Fogg

or an initial setup FAQ

this question

0

Q: Should I create a new user for Debian?

I am interested to know if there may be any security or permissions related reasons for creating a new user. I am using the Debian Squeeze operating system from the Raspberry Pi website.

debian operating-systems

is related to the "what should i do when I get a Raspberry Pi" suite of questions

dunsmoreb

@Jivings What do you think?

Andrew Fogg

i know enough about linux to know that users and permissions etc are important but not enough to really know what to do, if I should create a new user

etc

dunsmoreb

20:02

Related Stack Overflow Meta discussion.

56

Q: Setting up a FAQ for the C++ tag

I have heard a few highly reputed users expressing sentiments that again and again answering the same newbie questions becomes very tedious. ("What should be the result of i == ++i + i++?" anyone?) Those who say this frequently are highly reputed, very knowledgeable users, whose decreased contrib...

discussion stackoverflow faqs

I think instead of having a separate tag, it should be under the tag wiki.

Like we have common FAQ for Debian and Arch on the wiki for debian and archlinux respectively.

Andrew Fogg

I find that the "faqs" tag works well in Stack Overflow

dunsmoreb

@AndrewFogg I don't like the idea of a dedicated tag for FAQ.

Andrew Fogg

I agree (ignore that previous comment)

i got confused LOL

Jivings

@dunsmoreb The top voted answer for that meta discussion was not to do it.

dunsmoreb

@Jivings I know. That is why I propose having it on the tag wiki.

Like have the tag wiki split into sections that address common issues.

Jivings

20:05

I prefer that idea.

setup

Andrew Fogg

@Jivings @dunsmoreb what do the two of you think about this question then,

when a user googles "how do i install software on my raspberry pi" do you want an answer from this stack exchange site to be the top hit?

2

Jivings

Could link to arch-setup and debian-setup

dunsmoreb

@Jivings What?

Jivings

@AndrewFogg This way it will be the top hit. But it will be locked and the top comment a link to the tag wiki for setup

dunsmoreb

@Shog9 Can we do <a name="xyz"> in tag wikis?

Jivings

20:07

Check the markdown specification.

dunsmoreb

@Jivings Coolio. But I don't want a os-setup tag.

Andrew Fogg

@Jivings I am not sure I entirely understood that but ... great! :-) that is the way I think it should be

Jivings

What do you think then?

dunsmoreb

@Jivings raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/markdown#links

It says we can do the standard syntax.

Jivings

Good.

What tag should it be under?

faq

dunsmoreb

20:11

@Jivings The software one?

Shog9

@dunsmoreb No... Hoping to have support for anchors in the near future, but right now it's not possible.

dunsmoreb

@Shog9 Argh!!! This will make it harder! D=>

Shog9

@dunsmoreb What are you trying to do?

dunsmoreb

We want to link to different sections of a tag wiki.

That we could be like.

Andrew Fogg

@dunsmoreb @Jivings good edits

0

Q: How can I use a HDD to extend the life of my SD Card?

How can I set up a HDD to extend the life of my SD Card and maximize the performance of my Raspberry Pi? Related: How can I extend the life of my SD card?

sd-card performance hard-drive

Shog9

20:15

@dunsmoreb For now, I recommend just creating a question with a CW answer, and linking to that from the tag wiki (if your goal is to create a straight-up wiki).

dunsmoreb

> Please see the Installation section under debian

Shog9

If you check the "self answer" and "community wiki" checkboxes on the "Ask Question" page, you can create and populate both of those at once.

dunsmoreb

@Shog9 Okay. Any timeframe on when we can expect that answer?

@Shog9 I mean feature.

Shog9

@dunsmoreb Afraid not. There are other things with higher priority going on right now.

Jivings

I think @Shog9 is right then. We need to have a couple of potentially off-topic questions so that we can refer users to them. They can be protected.

dunsmoreb

20:17

@Shog9 Okay... )=>

Shog9

You should remember that tag wikis have a higher barrier to editing than normal CW posts as well, so if your goal is to create an extensive wiki, the latter is much more inviting.

Jivings

I think that's probably the best idea.

dunsmoreb

Good point.

Should we create a faq tag then?

Jivings

Yeah

dunsmoreb

Okay, how do we make a question community wiki?

Jivings

20:20

There's a tick box when you create it.

What are you making?

dunsmoreb

Well I want to convert @AndrewFogg question to CW.

6

Q: How do I install new software?

I am aware that Linux distributions usually have 'package managers' to allow me to download and install software from the command line and that I should also be able to download and compile source code from the web but I am not sure about how best to do either of these things on the Raspberry Pi.

debian setup

Or should we just make a new one and close as duplicate?

Andrew Fogg

if you convert do I get reputation? if so convert please :-)

Jivings

You will no longer get rep from the question if it's CW.

Andrew Fogg

oh, oh well :-)

finnw

You don't lose any rep you got from upvotes (before conversion)

I think

dunsmoreb

20:23

@finnw That is correct. I believe. =P

Jivings

It's okay. We can leave that one. Just add faq

It's not important that it's CW is it?

The answers would benefit more from being CW

dunsmoreb

Done.

@Shog9 Can you convert this question to CW? Like all the questions and answers.

Andrew Fogg

what is CW/

dunsmoreb

6

Q: How do I install new software?

I am aware that Linux distributions usually have 'package managers' to allow me to download and install software from the command line and that I should also be able to download and compile source code from the web but I am not sure about how best to do either of these things on the Raspberry Pi.

debian setup faq

Andrew Fogg

?

dunsmoreb

20:24

@AndrewFogg CW = Community Wiki

Jivings

@AndrewFogg Community Wiki.

Andrew Fogg

thansk

thanks

dunsmoreb

You can edit your message.

Andrew Fogg

ah thank you

dunsmoreb

Here you go.

chat.stackexchange.com/faq#talk

Andrew Fogg

20:25

already worked it out

:-)

Shog9

@dunsmoreb I'd prefer to just make the answer wiki. @Andrew, you ok with that? @Jivings, you ok merging your answer into Andrew's?

Jivings

@Shog9 Where?

dunsmoreb

@Shog9 Can we leave the answers separate.

Andrew Fogg

@Shog9 I am not sure I understand your question

dunsmoreb

That way we can link to individual answers for each OS?

Shog9

20:27

Oh, ok - so the answers are gonna be sections then?

Jivings

I think just the answers should be wiki.

Shog9

that makes sense.

dunsmoreb

Yes.

Shog9

In that case, I will just make the whole thing CW

dunsmoreb

Cool. Thanks.

Can we also delete all the comments arguing about whether it's on-topic?

Andrew Fogg

20:29

@dunsmoreb @Jivings I have to drop off but I am glad that I dropped in to share some of this with the two of you and to let you know that I understood your previous off-topic complaints (as it were) against some of my questions.

dunsmoreb

@AndrewFogg No problem. Thank you for being active.

Jivings

@AndrewFogg Thanks. You've been extremely helpful.

I'm writing meta about this.

dunsmoreb

@Jivings Cool. Now I won't have to. =P

Andrew Fogg

Yes. This needs to be on meta.

:-)

really constructive

dunsmoreb

I'm going to write a tag wiki for faq explaining it.

Shog9

20:30

Cleared previous comments, left a comment describing the strategy.

dunsmoreb

Thanks.

Andrew Fogg

one final thing. is something needed on those two answers about downloading and compiling source? (or is that WAY too general)?

dunsmoreb

@AndrewFogg What do you mean?

Andrew Fogg

errr maybe that was a stupid question

i can get new software onto the raspberry pi using the package manager

but i can also download and compile source

right?

Jivings

@dunsmoreb @AndrewFogg

0

A: Raspberry Pi itself vs. specific OS issues

I want to share my experiences this week and how my opinion has been shaped by the community. I have spent a great deal of time in chat, and it seems this meta question is brought up at least once a day, and still appears to not be resolved. Today I had a discussion with Andrew Fog. Andrew is ...

dunsmoreb

20:37

@Jivings Saw. Can you make this another question?

Jivings

Yeah alright then.

Andrew Fogg

even just adding a single sentence explanation of what that is could help

(or am I totally misunderstanding something)

(i.e. something about Linux, remember I am new to Linux)

@Jivings "Fogg" is a double "gg"

:-)

dunsmoreb

@AndrewFogg Just wait, I've got something to edit also. =P

Jivings

0

Q: Are some off-topic questions necessary for a healthy community?

I want to share my experiences this week and how my opinion has been shaped by the community. I have spent a great deal of time in chat, and it seems this meta question is brought up at least once a day, and still appears to not be resolved. Today I had a discussion with Andrew Fog. Andrew is ...

discussion on-off-topic

dunsmoreb

@AndrewFogg Fixed it for you.

Jivings

20:40

@Shog9 Sorry, you commented but I've moved the answer to a new question. Can you move the comment?

Shog9

@Jivings You could just change the tag... ;-)

Jivings

@dunsmoreb posed wasn't a typo.

Andrew Fogg

right I have to drop off, thanks again, see you soon

dunsmoreb

@Jivings Oh. Silly me. =P

Jivings

@Shog9 What should it be?

linux-basics

dunsmoreb

20:42

I just proposed a wiki for faq.

Jivings

Shoq thinks it shouldn't be faq

dunsmoreb

@Jivings What shouldn't?

Jivings

The tag

dunsmoreb

What should it be then?

Jivings

> I recommend you use a tag other than faq for this, something a bit more descriptive - maybe linux-usage or some such. – Shog9♦ ↵ 5 mins ago

Shog9

20:44

@Jivings yeah, something descriptive of the purpose and of the questions themselves. Too easy for faq to become a catch-all tag.

dunsmoreb

Well common questions may not always be about Linux usage.

Shog9

or a meta tag

Blog - Stack Exchange: The Death of Meta Tags

Jeff Atwood on August 06, 2010

There are a few tags on Stack Overflow that have bugged me for a long time. Namely:

subjective best-practices beginner

best-practices beginner

beginner

But I could never quite articulate what, exactly, was wrong with these tags. It’s been bothering me more and more as time goes on. So much so, that about two months ago, I was compelled to ask on meta: Should we permanently remove the [subjective] tag?

There are some weak arguments in favor of keeping [subjective], but that’s about the best its proponents can muster. The arguments against it are much stronger. I felt Shog9 made the best case: …

Jivings

Makes sense.

Shog9

@dunsmoreb You don't necessarily need a single tag for every question that fits this mold.

dunsmoreb

@Shog9 Should we just not tag these questions at all then?

Just tag them as they relate to and don't even mention that they are FAQ?

Shog9

20:46

@dunsmoreb Well, yes, you should tag them - just make the tag(s) describe the questions. If you want to group them together in some sort of meta-faq, link to them from a tag wiki (or wikis).

Jivings

Okay.

dunsmoreb

Seems fine to me.

Maybe we should have these questions file under a meta post?

That way it is easily accessible to search?

Jivings

So linux-usage

@dunsmoreb I don't think that will be a problem.

dunsmoreb

Doesn't really hurt though, does it?

Shog9

@dunsmoreb with good titles and tags, they should be searchable. If you want to group them, consider something like the PHP wiki on SO: stackoverflow.com/tags/php/info

lots of information for PHP beginners, including copious links to on-site and off-site info

dunsmoreb

20:49

@Shog9 Okay.

I must say, I like the new system we hashed out.

Jivings

@Shog9 That's what I was thinking

Yes, this is good stuff.

dunsmoreb

> These questions can then be used to close any new duplicates and we can refer to them as necessarily off-topic.

Shouldn't we refer to them as exact duplicates?

Jivings

I didn't mean refer to the new questions.

The protected, CW questions.

They will be off-topic.

But they are necessary.

dunsmoreb

Oh, okay.

I just removed the part about the faq tagging.

I guess the new task is to determine the necessarily off-topic questions. Huh?

Jivings

I bet you 50 rep that's what the first answer will say. "Who's going to determine what is necessary".

dunsmoreb

20:53

@Jivings The Supreme Council of the Pi?

Jivings

I LOVE that title.

dunsmoreb

Can we rename this room? Lol.

Jivings

haha

Shog9

One other thing I want to caution you against: don't look at "protecting" these because they're off-topic and popular; look at protecting them because they're useful to your community but not strictly on-topic.

2

Jivings

Right. I'll try and make that distinction.

dunsmoreb

20:56

room topic changed to The Supreme Council of the Pi: The official room for RaspberryPi.SE. (no tags)

Mwahaha.

Jivings

lol elitist.

dunsmoreb

Just remember, you are part of this elitist council.

Shog9

That way you have a clear rationale for creating new ones when:
1) a common need or concern among Raspi members
2) not strictly on-topic or constructive as a normal question
3) able to be *made* on-topic (related to RasPi) or constructive via careful community curation.

Jivings

That sounds good. Mind if I add that to the meta discussion?

@Shog9 Or perhaps you could answer it.

dunsmoreb

How are we going to decide what is FAQ though?

Shog9

20:59

#3 is your litmus test: if you can't write and maintain a single question and answer (or small, finite set of answers) that are both directly related to RasPi (the site's topic) and constructive (per blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/09/good-subjective-bad-subjective and the "do not ask" section of the FAQ) then it does not deserve "protection".

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