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23:00
@mick I know what a Riemann mapping is because I just read it. That 's it.
you need to build a foundation to advance in math
You can't expect someone to believe you know what it means for a set to be "simply connected" if you don't know what a "topology" is.
@mick I am doing that, yes.
@PeterTamaroff well I could have went and read about it but i didnt , so you cheated and I did not ! Btw what I said , is it so wrong ???
@mick, you aren't getting it :(
@mick I know what a Ferrari is, but I cannot drive it nor fix it.
Do I make my point?
Yet I know how to drive a common car.
But would you believe me if I said I can drive a Ferrari, but cannot drive a common car?
That is my point.
23:03
@PeterTamaroff YOU do not need to be an expert in riemann mappings , topology or complex analysis to do the computation or understand the principle. I said " a bit "
If you need a bit of A , to be an expert in B , and you are not an expert in B , do you know how important A is ??? Thats my point.
You insist on expertise. There's no need for that.
@OldJohn hi! hope my discussions dont scare you away :) hru ?
@PeterTamaroff au contraire , you did that.
@mick nothing scares me away
@mick No, I'm telling you you need to know the basics-
23:05
@PeterTamaroff I know the basics for tetration
did not claim anything else
@mick What are the basics for tetration? Let's say I want to learn.
and btw im only 14 and " basics " is subjective
@mick No, the basics here is the floor of the street when you jump off a building. There is nothing subjective to it.
"basics " is subjective. what you find alot ? When do you know the basics of number theory ? is that fermats little or FLT or in the middle ? where exactly ???
Page $1$, Chapter $1$.
23:07
that is your opinion
you mean definitions
ethan
@Ethan, 2 to tango
ok
lol
:S ugh
@OldJohn have you heard about tommy1729 ?
23:08
if I don't go to bed soon I will have a hard time getting up in the morning
hard lol
@mick nope
thats what the fuss is about today
He is called a crank by some , but he is my master. And I am called a crank too.
and im defending tetration and ~AC @OldJohn
hi anon
@anon hi
23:11
He is a crank
Surely anon can confirm
@mick why the interest in tetratiuon? - seems like a bit of a back-water
@mick, I don't think ~AC needs defending. In fact I think only a fraction of set theorists even believe in AC
Tfhfjktjggyvhjgjhmnggkhgndtigujgvyvrcyevfhugyufvyuyjyj , ethan you typed this.
Looks very cranky :p @Ethan
hello
23:12
BTW
@mick you just don't understand the quote
let me explain it in simpler words
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hello @AlUmmatمجاهد
@user58512 you are wrong , most NUMBER THEORISTS do not like AC AND most tetration fans. Since tommy is both ...
@user58512 hello
@mick, you misread what i wrote
23:14
@user58512 I did ?
@anon Hello, mister. My life space $L$ will be closer to it's completion $\bar L$ when I get to know your name.
yes you said "you are wrong" but I am right so you must have misread or something
@user58512 on sci.math everyone supported AC , so there were flamewars against the few who did including tommy
@mick, that's weird - backwards from what I exect
@PeterTamaroff His name is Anthony
23:16
@user58512 It depends on the country too. America seems to be AC like.
His last name is Stark.
Belgium much less
@user58512
@anon ;)
I see
@Charlie Damn you, woman.
23:17
hi @GitGud
@PeterTamaroff :P
@user58512 they do not speak of ZFC as the " standard" for nothing
@user58512 Yo.
@GitGud you are so revelent and funny now :)
@user58512
@mick Seems so.
23:18
Who is mick?
@Ethan, just some kid
mick < tommy
@PeterTamaroff march 8th is women's day....
I wish this site had a way to PM people (maybe if they accept you first or something)
at least a way to show someone an email address privately
@user58512 I remember tommy arguing against ZFC and being compared to a baby.
to take revenge he challenged them with still unsolved statements.
now sci.math is gone
@Ethan if tommy posted to arxiv with a proof of twins THAT would have been cranky
23:21
@mick sites.google.com/site/tommy1729/andrica-proved, posting "I know more about such and such then anybody" is cranky
Naming new topics he made up after him self, thats cranky
@Ethan he was emotional then
@Ethan, I think that has been established
"Tommy's extended distributive property"
@mick It seems as if you are trolling
that is intresting
you seemed to miss the beauty of that
@Ethan
there's no beauty to it, it's just more tetrashion
23:24
it is the most general distributive property !! @user58512
but I think the extended distributive property is correct actually, isn't it?
:8333019 already beautiful field of study ?
@Charlie Bleh.
It is a sexist day.
mick will you just leave the chat
please
Much like "Black History Month"
@Charlie
23:26
@Ethan, why don't you just stop arguing with him?
you are the one drawing this out
@Ethan Little known fact: you can ignore a user with the system.
how do i do that?
it's easy
If I later want to redact somthing like this, can i?
23:28
@user58512 of course its correct. thats the beauty !!
@Ethan Ethan I like you and I think you like me too or at least did so in the past ? so ?
I don't know who you are
this guy invited me to a chat and then didn't talk >:(
@user58512 what ? who ?
a geometer
tommy is not a crank , but should withdraw some of his claims. thats my final
besides its an old website i think
he probably forgot about that site
23:33
@mick It seems you know the guy.
Maybe you can ask him to use $\LaTeX$?
he doesnt like it
sometimes he does
The site is pretty illegible as it stands.
@mick, why does he think testing lucky number is in NP?
that makes no sense to me
@user58512 because primes use similar sieves ?
ah sorry ok , i thought about that NP thing too !
if testing lucky numbers is NP that means you can give a polytime checkable certificate
but what would such a certificate be?
23:35
yeah i wondered
this is a crypto guy so he is probably right
hmmm
unproved !!
I asked him
gotta go , thanks for chat @user58512
23:36
still weird , you remind me of tommy but you dont like tetration @user58512
no offense
lol
bye everyone
@anon I am about to get to the Sylow theorems. Expect me! =)
@PeterTamaroff nice.
Actually, I remember I was learning algebra a while back (independently), and I was able to get to, but not past, the Sylow theorems.
@AndrewSalmon What does you mean "but not past"?
I just never really grasped the idea of conjugacy classes.
23:41
@AndrewSalmon, do you know them now? I just studied conjugacy classes today
No I do not.
of elements, or subgroups?
if you want to discuss it i'd be happy to
(because it would help me too)
I would like to discuss it.
That was what I was sorta trying to get at.
@AndrewSalmon They are the classes the equivalence relation of "conjugation" gives rise to.
@AndrewSalmon We have a group, and we can define an equivalence relation on it by saying that $x\sim y$ if there exists $a\in G$ such that $axa^{-1}=y$.
Prove it is an equivalence relation.
@peoplepower Yo peeps.
23:45
@PeterTamaroff Hello, sir.
@peoplepower Will your name remain a secret too?
@PeterTamaroff If I have my way, yes.
@peoplepower Your way?
@PeterTamaroff Somebody I know may find out about this account and tell everyone in chat my name.
@peoplepower Oh. Let me help you with a song:
23:50
why do people care if you know their name
@Ethan I like calling people by their name.
@AndrewSalmon Are you there?
whats your name?
is it peter?
@PeterTamaroff Yeah. Don't worry. user58512 is explaining stuff.
@Ethan It is really "Pedro", which is the hispanic equivalent to "Peter". No one calls me "Pedro" though, I have over 9000 nicknames.
@AndrewSalmon I see. May I join?
@peoplepower Did you watch the video?
@Peter ask user58512. He created it.
23:54
@OldJohn, I looked up Tenerife. There is no such place. On the other hand, the Disney company dumped a bunch of landfill and made an island off Africa, built a bunch of stuff, and started pretending that was Tenerife. About 1960, that was.
@WillJagy What do you mean "There is no such place."?
@WillJagy Lovely! - I just spent 2 weeks there, and had a great time :)
@WillJagy what are you talking about?
@OldJohn where?
Still waiting for my house to warm up to above 14 degrees :(((
@ethan Tenerife
@PeterTamaroff, it is some kind of hoax. John went somewhere and enjoyed himself. But it was probably a big movie set near Sheffield.
23:57
@WillJagy HAHAHAHHAHA come on!
@WillJagy Sheffield was great when I lived there in the late 70's
@PeterTamaroff lol yes
It went downhill a lot after I left
@OldJohn, perhaps it went downhill because you left.
lol
23:58
I heard from Jonas, sent him some conference information. I am unable to tell whether he can actually attend such a thing.
@WillJagy totally coincidental, but one or two places I have left have also gone downhill - I reckon it is my sense of leaving places when I get a sense that they starting to deteriorate ...
... but I might be wrong, of course
@WillJagy Good - It would be good if he could go

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