Mathematics - 2012-11-07 (page 3 of 4)

Nimza

21:00

@Charlie I need some conspiration. It helps psychologically when I ask stupid questions

Charlie

@Nimza hehehe

Nimza

@Charlie what about you?

user19161

@Nimza Did I miss some secret just now?

Nimza

@WillHunting no :)))

user19161

Damn, I always miss secrets!

user19161

21:02

@Charlie Wassup?

Charlie

@Nimza Most everyone.but my whole name only Jayesh, gustavo, oldjohn, jonas, peter,

user19161

@Nimza I know your identity, you are the cookie monster, HAHAHAHA.

Charlie

@WillHunting I'm good.What about you?

user19161

@Charlie Not me?

Charlie

@WillHunting WE're making some jaspery here...

Nimza

21:03

@WillHunting that's sounds like pseudonym in anonymous alcoholics club

Charlie

@WillHunting do you know?

user19161

@Charlie Isn't it just what is written in your email?

Charlie

@WillHunting my whole name

user19161

@Nimza That is anon. =)

Charlie

my true name

user19161

21:05

@Charlie Exactly, MJ.

Charlie

@WillHunting Okay.MMJ, actually

user19161

@Charlie Yes, I can't recall the middle one. JL might not be my real name you know.

Charlie

@WillHunting yes

Nimza

@WillHunting why your gravatar is so Jasper Loy'ish?

user19161

@Nimza WH might be my real name, you never know.

Nimza

21:08

@WillHunting aaaa! (I guessed)

Charlie

i like to create adjective from people's names!

Nimza

@Charlie aha, Laplacian-like are so cute

Charlie

@Nimza i made two using Jasper and Jayesh

user19161

@Charlie What are they?

Nimza

@Charlie I can't imagine what did you do with Jayesh... ?

Charlie

21:11

@Nimza excuse me?

N3buchadnezzar

@WillHunting Any idea how to express that something is not in a set using latex?

Charlie

@WillHunting Jaspery. I just used it

Nimza

@Charlie :D how did you transform it

N3buchadnezzar

I mean the $\in$ symbol with a \ over it.

Charlie

@Nimza Jayeshful

Nimza

21:12

@Charlie uuuuuuuuh!

user19161

@N3buchadnezzar \not\in

Charlie

@Nimza what?

Nimza

@Charlie so nice!)

N3buchadnezzar

$\not\in$

@WillHunting Awesome! I tried \nin, but that failed.

Charlie

@Nimza I have one in mind with yours

user19161

21:13

@N3buchadnezzar You should learn LaTeX properly first.

Nimza

@Charlie X) what? Do you have one derived from your name? something like Mariliant!

N3buchadnezzar

@WillHunting I write all my assignments in latex, although never had to use that symbol strangely enough

Charlie

@Nimza Interesting!!! Jayesh said it is Marilial

user19161

@N3buchadnezzar Geezis, how did that happen? Perhaps you had too much meat and pudding.

N3buchadnezzar

$\in \!\!\! \! \! \!\, \backslash$

There I fixed it.

$/\!\!\!\!\!\!\,\in$

user19161

21:17

I think Jonas seems to have retired as well, haven't seen him here.

Nimza

@WillHunting like Il y a...

user19161

@Nimza Oh, what am I doing here? I said I would retire too...

Nimza

@WillHunting what are WE doing here?

user19161

@Nimza But you did not say you are retiring!

Nimza

@WillHunting i'm not so famous yet to retire :D

Charlie

21:20

I won't leave here!

user19161

@Nimza Er, I am not either. Anyone with 1 rep can retire.

N3buchadnezzar

@WillHunting I accidentally all my assignments in Latex.

Charlie

@skullpatrol no one

Nimza

@WillHunting just joking. My main association with "retire" is first russian president. "I'm tired, i'm retiring" is a meme-phrase in russia

Charlie

@Nimza Funny!

Nimza

21:24

@Charlie heh)

Charlie

@will know what I like about jonas?

@Nimza why don't you put eyes in your smile?

user19161

@Charlie No.

N3buchadnezzar

@Charlie His boobs?

Charlie

@WillHunting he's a type of guy who doesn't give a fuck about anything... i would like to be like that...no worries about useless things...

@N3buchadnezzar good try, but no

Nimza

@Charlie hm, interesting question! I use both eyesless and with eyes

user19161

21:26

@Charlie Hmm, I would not say that without knowing him well.

skullpatrol

True^

Charlie

@WillHunting don't need to know him well to say that

skullpatrol

Yes you do

Charlie

it's like me: you can say things about me without knowing me well

skullpatrol

each person is different

Charlie

21:28

of course. i never said they were

user19161

Some bros here have shared some very deep secrets with me that I would not share with anyone...

skullpatrol

@Charlie "it's like me:"

Charlie

@skullpatrol just giving an example

@WillHunting you guys are the only friends i have...

user19161

@Charlie Really? Don't you have any in real life?

N3buchadnezzar

@Charlie You should get a relation ship then

Charlie

21:30

@WillHunting hmm... i thought i had friends

i only have colleagues from work

@N3buchadnezzar where do you find such Ship?

user19161

@Charlie You really don't have anyone close to in real life?

skullpatrol

no family?

user19161

@skullpatrol Family is not friends though

Charlie

@skullpatrol Family, of course. My best, best friend in real life is my brother

N3buchadnezzar

i.sstatic.net/YM8Ba.png here, also posted earlier

Charlie

21:31

@WillHunting close, no.

user19161

My best friend is myself.

skullpatrol

QED

user19161

@Charlie Sad panda.

Charlie

@WillHunting well said

@WillHunting yes...

user19161

But why @charlie? Why nobody?

Charlie

21:32

i got disappointed with all my so called friends

N3buchadnezzar

My best friend is $\sqrt{-8}$, but it is so weird everyone else ignores him...

Charlie

@N3buchadnezzar hehehe

skullpatrol

@Charlie Define what a friend is to you.

user19161

@Charlie I have six good friends in real life.

Charlie

@WillHunting you have more than i have

user19161

21:33

@Charlie 6>0, QED.

Charlie

@skullpatrol someone who doesn't turn the back for you for being different

N3buchadnezzar

When did this turn into a most friends competition?

Charlie

@skullpatrol for having different opinions, likes and dislikes, don't exclude you...

skullpatrol

@Charlie thank you for being a friend

Charlie

my oldest friend is my "friend" since i was 11

but i don't talk to him since may...

user19161

21:36

Anyway, I will probably hang around in chat for the rest of the year...

N3buchadnezzar

I dont give a crap about who I define as my friends or not

I mean seriously why does it matteR?

Charlie

it doesn't.

I don't care about having friends, anymore

N3buchadnezzar

I just meat people and have fun, I do not label people as. Well since we have hang out X number of times and I have rated you as Y. Then according to this Gausscurve you are within my 10%, therefore I can now call you my friend.

Charlie

People only seemed to talk with me to take something out of me...

N3buchadnezzar

@Charlie Why did they place things inside of you in the first place?

Charlie

21:39

@N3buchadnezzar i mean, "I want something you can offer me"

when i could not offer anything, i wasn't important

life is like that

N3buchadnezzar

Life is about being awesome

Charlie

we're alone

N3buchadnezzar

and maximize the amount of fun you are havin

I am giving loads of things to the people around me, I help arranging parties, social events, just being there for people. I never expect anything in return, and guess what. I like my life, and I get things back.

Charlie

Maybe i just expect a lot from people

then i get frustrated

N3buchadnezzar

Zero expectations makes you happy for everything ^^

Charlie

21:41

i can't live like that

well, it doesn't matter

user19161

@Charlie I only want to recover now and live life fully.

Charlie

@WillHunting O hope you make it!

when i'm here i feel really good

user19161

@n3b Do you have a girlfriend?

Charlie

in contact with inteligent people. I feel free

Johan Larsson

Friends are good but being 'social' is not imo

N3buchadnezzar

21:43

@WillHunting Had, do not have time now, or anyone I am interested in. I do have quite some female friends though.

Charlie

i'm sick of seeing the same people in my country

@N3buchadnezzar me neither

i just talk to one girl

anon

"You are not just wrong. You are wrong at every conceivable level of resolution. Zooming in on any part of your worldview finds beliefs exactly as wrong as your entire worldview." rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fractal_wrongness

Charlie

i don't deal really well with girls

N3buchadnezzar

@Charlie Chloroform, candy and a large van solves my problems.

@WillHunting Why do you ask btw? )(

Charlie

@N3buchadnezzar i did not understand, but nevermind

Let's make a Sargent pepper lonely hearts club band

user19161

21:47

@N3buchadnezzar I just like to say whatever comes to my mind...

skullpatrol

@anon Fractal wrongness is a dangerous thing.

kahen

@anon: Reminds me of this clip: youtube.com/watch?v=H9kpTvm6CYA

Charlie

@Nimza i liked the way my name is written in russian : Mariliya

Марилия

Nimza

@Charlie aha, very beautiful

Charlie

@Nimza :D

Nimza

21:50

@Charlie I think I'm Alex in Brazil

skullpatrol

Can we sing this?

Johan Larsson

I have gf, but I have made it clear that I will not leave my computer EVER

protip: if feeling lonely, buy a dog. Hard to find better company when geeking away.

There is a quoute, Mark Twain I think, that goes something like 'the more I spend time with man the more I appreciate the company of dogs'

Peter Tamaroff

TL;DR

Man. I lost my board marker. I'm doomed

skullpatrol

Welcome to doom ;-)

kahen

@PeterTamaroff I deleted my comment on your question because I realized that the convergence is only pw eventually constant on the set I called $K$ in the answer to my own question, I had linked

Peter Tamaroff

21:59

@kahen Nevertheless, that was out of my league.

I don't know that much topology. I know very, very little

kahen

@JohanLarsson You'll not leave your computer EVER? So you could be the main lead of "le garcon qui aimé son ordinateur davantage que sa petite ami"? (i know. my french is awful) youtube.com/watch?v=aXIEME4lxa4#t=85s (fun fact: the guy in the video was the host of the longest running movie review show on Danish public television)

I have no idea how the guys who did the video convinced him to record the audio for that thing

Johan Larsson

@kahen lol my french Is just about good enoughh to read it without cheating

Charlie

@Nimza Alexandre

Johan Larsson

Spoken Danish is harder than written French

Nimza

@Charlie no!) I have a friend Alexandre here) and Alexandra

kahen

22:03

at least it has subtitles

Charlie

@Nimza i have a friend called Alex

Nimza

@Charlie I think it's the closest form for Alexey

Charlie

@Nimza Alexey is nicer

skullpatrol

@Charlie Can I be your enemy?

Charlie

i had a greek friend and his name was Alexandros

@skullpatrol why????

@skullpatrol why would you want to be?

:(

skullpatrol

22:05

@Charlie Because I don't want to be your friend.

Charlie

@skullpatrol :(

Nimza

@Charlie Alexey and Alexandre e.t.c. are from greek "defender": $\alpha \lambda \varepsilon \xi \omega$

Charlie

:(

@Nimza Fascinating!

skullpatrol

@Charlie skullpatrol hates everybody in the blackhole

Nimza

@Charlie and what is your name's origin?

Charlie

22:06

@skullpatrol i'm not in the blackhole

skullpatrol

@Charlie This is the blackhole of productivity.

Charlie

@Nimza it comes from Maria , means maria's daughter, but i don't know from which country

@skullpatrol do you wanna me to leave?

skullpatrol

@Charlie No

Nimza

@Charlie ogo! interesting)

skullpatrol

@Charlie I will because I am evil.

@Charlie I will never return to hurt you, bye.

Charlie

22:10

@skullpatrol Skull...

What did i do to @skullpatrol ??????

2

Now I'm the vilain again

Ed Gorcenski

Evening

jdoe

hi

Charlie

@EdGorcenski Hi

Ed Gorcenski

Speaking of productivity, I'm going to buy myself a beer tonight.

Charlie

@Nimza did i do anything to him?

Nimza

22:14

@Charlie in which sense?

Charlie

@Nimza he just started to say "don't wanna be your friend" thing, and then left...

Nimza

@Charlie brrrr, strange :\ maybe he's joking?

mick

my fav crackpot theory :) rationalwiki.org/wiki/Time_Cube

Charlie

@Nimza I hope so.He's usually kind to me...

jdoe

hi mick

Charlie

22:18

@Nimza My name seems to be Hebrew...descendants of Mary. Jayesh calls me Mary

Ed Gorcenski

There seems to be a lot of drama and not enough upvoting my answers.

Nimza

@Charlie hmmm... I think you're right. This woman with name Марилия has father with typically hebrew surname

Charlie

@Nimza hmm interesting

Ocean child calls me So I sing song of love

Nimza

oh, it's time to sleep. 2:27 yet

Charlie

@Nimza Good Night!!!

Nimza

22:28

@Charlie good night, Марилия :)

Charlie

@Nimza :D

zero

@Charlie what have you done to skull?

Charlie

@zero i don't know! i didn't say aanything!

zero

@Charlie maybe he fell in love with you?

Charlie

@zero Do you think?

zero

22:32

possilble ...

Charlie

@zero :/

Whispers words of wisdom, Let it Be.

zero

you must be more cautiuos on the internet

jdoe

wait a second

Charlie

@zero To what???? I didn't do anything to him!!!

jdoe

if a_n,m is a cauchy sequence of cauchy sequences, is a_i,i a cauchy sequence?

Charlie

22:35

@jdoe $a_n$ is Cauchy

zero

@Charlie sometimes what you don't say can lead people on

Charlie

@zero I still don't understand...

@jdoe $b_n$ is a cauchy sequence, made of cauchy sequences?

zero

@Charlie it's like zero, does it mean anything?

Charlie

@zero Can you be a little more clear?

anon

@jdoe No. Suppose $a_{n,m}$ is a CS of CSs and $b_k$ is a non-cauchy sequence. Then the diagonal of $\varphi_{n,m}=(1-\delta_{nm})a_{n,m}+\delta_{n,m}b_k$ is precisely $b_k$ which is non-cauchy, whereas for each fixed $n$, $\varphi_{n,m}$ is cauchy in $m$.

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Charlie

22:38

@anon I don't get...

jdoe

oh no!!!1

i loved that theorem

anon

zero, I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about.

@jdoe that's a theorem?

jdoe

not anymore

anon

@Charlie basically, if $a_{n,m}$ is a CS of CSs, then you can edit the diagonals to be anything you want and the array will still be a CS-of-CSs whereas the diagonal is whatever you prescribed it to be.

Charlie

hmm

mick

22:41

hi guys

Charlie

@will :)

mick

wassup

jdoe

hi

Charlie

@anon Neither do I

zero

let me give you a sports example: if the refs are not making any calls on hits, then by not saying anything the players can think that they can make as many hard hits as they want

Charlie

22:41

@mick so so

anon

@Charlie the motivation behind this is that editing a finite number of terms in a sequence does not change its asymptotic properties, and if you edit along the diagonals of an array, you are only altering a finite number of terms in each row

mick

@Charlie so so ?

Charlie

@anon Now i got it!

@mick yep

anon

@zero what is even the topic of what you're talking about?

mick

@Charlie does not sound so good :s

anon

22:43

something to do with flirting, or chat behavior?

zero

yes

Charlie

@zero you're saying that ... oh nevermind

BUT I DID NOTHING!!!

mick

@Charlie what didnt you do ?

Charlie

He came to me and just started to say nonsense things!

mick

xD

well this is chat afterall

Charlie

22:45

@zero yes what? the first or second option?

Wise @oldjohn!

mick

@OldJohn hi

zero

@Charlie he said "I will never return to hurt you"

user19161

Why is there so much drama in this room?

2

jdoe

chat.stackexchange.com/users/19161/will-hunting

anon

much ado about nothing

user19161

22:46

Also, one should only get involved when one understands the context of the conversation between two people.

mick

@WillHunting because there is a women of course ;)

anon

"a women" hmm...

user19161

Maybe A and B understand each other perfectly well, then C should just stay out of it.

mick

@anon not ?

Charlie

@zero he's exaggerating...

user19161

22:47

Why do I feel like I'm in love with @anon even though anon is not a girl?

zero

@Charlie that means he must have felt he could have hurt you,

Charlie

@anon a woman, isn't it?

anon

yes

mick

lol , back to the mysterious acts :)

jdoe

hey

user19161

22:48

Geezis, sometimes I really wish anon is a girl...

2

jdoe

me too

anon

me three

2

err wait

jdoe

:D

Charlie

@WillHunting but neither I understood!!!!!!

jdoe

I wish I was a fish

mick

22:49

anon now imagines himself for the mirror being a girl :)

user19161

Anyway, I think I am going to stay single this life, unless I meet a girl like anon.

jdoe

a girl like anon

Charlie

Look what Anon is doing to will..

mick

guys you are sounding lame and gay today ... just saying.

jdoe

why don't you just marry anon that's allowed now??

AbstractionOfMe

22:50

@WillHunting that's what i used to say but later i found out it was only cuz i wasn't getting any

Charlie

But seriously, boys: WHAT DID I DO????

jdoe

@Charlie, nothing don't worry about it

mick

@Charlie you brake hearts because you are pretty :)

zero

@Charlie Don't get so friendly

jdoe

stop being bossy!!!

Ed Gorcenski

22:51

A lot of friggin work: math.stackexchange.com/questions/232451/…

mick

stop being friendly and stop being bossy !! lol

3

Charlie

:|

robjohn

@PeterTamaroff I see that $f_n(x)=x^n$ was already brought up.

user19161

@Charlie It's not Anon and will, it's anon and Will. QED.

jdoe

wow

Peter Tamaroff

22:52

@robjohn Hehe yes.

I'm trying to produce a proof myself now.

Davide went too fast.

Charlie

@mick How do you know that kid?

OOPS caps

user19161

@PeterTamaroff I find you often go too fast as well. I can't follow you in chat.

mick

@Charlie all kids now that :)

Charlie

Whatever... must eat guys. If skull appears... try to find what happened, please.

Old John

@mick @Charlie Hi

user19161

22:54

@Charlie Sometimes nothing happened and you worry too much.

mick

@Charlie dont eat guys , thats mean.

anon

@mick if hearts break the speed limit someone has to stop them.

Peter Tamaroff

@WillHunting In what?

Charlie

@WillHunting you're right

jdoe

lol

Charlie

22:54

Well, bye bye

user19161

@anon You have already broken my heart. =)

mick

@Charlie bye

anon

oh phooey

Charlie

@mick bye, kid

mick

@Charlie bye granny :)

user19161

22:55

@PeterTamaroff Well, it's like you post damn hard questions in chat and then post your lines damn fast.

Charlie

You're boys are so... a girl is kind and you fall in love..weak

3

mick

@Charlie no real men here , just boys :p

2

and kids

user19161

@Charlie Hmm, I didn't fall in love with you, only anon...

mick

@Charlie well , how do women fall in love then ? just for looks and money ?

zero

Yes

Old John

22:57

@mick don't think I qualify as a boy, unfortunately - not for many years :(

Johan Larsson

is there a way to filter out top rep users by tag?

mick

@zero lol

user19161

@OldJohn Soon you will be one again. =)

Peter Tamaroff

@robjohn If there is no uniform convergence then there exists some $\epsilon >0$ such that for each $n\in \Bbb N$ there exists an $x_n\in\Bbb R$ such that $|f_k(x_n)-f(x_n)|\geq\epsilon$ although $k>n$?

Old John

and if I fell in love with anyone here, my wife might kill me :)

anon

22:58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVmbhYKDKfU

Old John

@WillHunting looking forward to it :)

zero

LOL

user19161

@OldJohn Me too, all the more. =)

anon

@JohanLarsson probably the closest thing is to go to a tag page and click top users

robjohn

@PeterTamaroff That is the negation of uniform convergence, I believe.

Peter Tamaroff

22:59

@robjohn Yes, that is what I'm aiming for. Reductio ad absurdum.

mick

@anon lol

Old John

@WillHunting since hitting 5k, we have both slowed to almost a standstill :(

Peter Tamaroff

So I get a sequence $\{x_n\}$ in $[a,b]$

Bolzano Weierstrass, I choose you!

Ed Gorcenski

I am one accepted answer away from another 200 rep day.

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