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02:28
i need a tl; dr for that, my attention span is biden like.
People learn alike on number of attempts scale
Conclusion: good students make lots of attempts fast
Conclusion 2: everyone capable of learning math
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@copper.hat
Conclusion 3: good students worked harder rather than being smarter etc.
So we don't consider amount of time needed to grasp a concept, just number of attempts
 
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03:44
@Peter upvoted, thx
04:25
@Jakobian nice 👍
 
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06:42
In the aboe question, I can do parts (i), (ii) and (iii) without actually integrating. But is there a way to do part (iv) as well where there is no need to calculate f(x) explicitly?
I mean, if integrand was positive over [0,5] , then it was obvious that f assumes only one zero value at x = 0. But, since integrand dips below zero (twice), I am unable to solve (iv) without computing antiderivative.
07:23
@Jakobian nice! What's next?
07:37
silent: you'd certainly need to do something that accounted for the specific antiderivative you are working with there (i.e., it would not be enough to only be given that f'(x) = (x^2 - 5x + 4)(x^2 - 5x + 6), as the number of roots of f(x) on [0,5] could be anything between 0 and 5 consistent with that formula for f'(x). it really matters that f(0) = 0 here.
offhand it isn't immediately clear to me how you would even solve it with an express formula for f(x), since it's a fifth degree polynomial. certainly there are problems of this sort that could not be easily worked 'by hand,' i guess maybe this one turns out nicely (inferrable only from the fact that they are asking about it)
i guess you'd just plug in the local extrema and see if they correspond to crossing the axis or not. i don't see a "shortcut" to actually doing that
so that's a tractable calculation in this case, but its ease very much depends on f' having easily locatable integer roots. if the roots were instead quadratic expressions, even relatively simple ones, just figuring out the sign of f evaluated at each one of them could be considerably more work
08:02
@AlessandroCodenotti I'll start revising everything in the book to reinforce it, and then, like I said before, I thought about picking up Geometric aspects of general topology by Sakai
Definitely will continue along the topology route though
16 chapters is definitely a lot of knowledge so it does need to be reinforced I think
08:17
How long did it take to complete that book?
I don't remember when I started, but between half a year to a year I'd say
Couple of months for sure
@leslietownes, thank you very much for that detailed reply.
08:35
Sakai's book is very nice
 
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09:35
it is
10:22
@copper.hat the rich get richer
10:52
What is the precise reason why we only need to consider Cauchy sequences instead of Cauchy nets in a first countable topological space? Is it because given $x$ in the space and a Cauchy net converging to $x$ we can always find a Cauchy sequence converging to $x$ (and vice versa but that part is always true since sequences are Cauchy nets)?
11:12
@Jakobian Apologies---I misclicked a comment on the mobile version of the site, which deleted one of your comments, above. It was a mistake, but I cannot restore the missing comment. The mobile site sucks, and I've moved to the desktop site (where I have an actual keyboard). :/
11:37
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Please, help me with the proof of this statement
12:08
@XanderHenderson right. An unfortunate accident targetting specifically my comments
@ephe in which way you mean sufficient?
Sufficient for what
Intuitively, since sequences suffice for all types of convergence issues in first countable spaces, the same should be true for Cauchy sequences
@Jakobian did you notice the message below yours has seven (removed)s
@user85795 which message? I don't see anything
9 hours ago, by SeekingAMathGeekGirlfriend
@Peter upvoted, thx
above that^
they were of a sexual nature
This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 2 hours 13 minutes.
12:32
@Jakobian Maybe this is helpful: I was asking in the context of completions. To construct the completion of a first countable topological space we can use Cauchy sequences instead of Cauchy nets / Cauchy filters.
@Jakobian albeit, with clearly stated humors intention
13:18
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Q: Help with the proof of this statement

Binky McSquigglebottomLet $ f : [a, b] \rightarrow \mathbb{R} $ be a bounded function. Then for every $\epsilon > 0$, there exists $\delta > 0$such that for any partition $D$ of the interval $[a, b]$ with norm $\nu(D)$ smaller than $\delta$, the following holds: $$ \left| U(f, D) - \int_a^b \overline{f}(x) \, dx \right|

13:39
@user85795 I have this user ignored
Let $\varphi:\mathbb R\to\mathbb R_+$ be a convex function. Set $$\mathcal E_\varphi=\{(a,b)\in\mathbb R^2:\forall x\in\mathbb R,\varphi(x)\geq ax+b\}.$$ Then by convexity of $\varphi$, $$\varphi \left(x\right)=\underbrace{\sup_{\left(a{,}b\right)\in \mathcal E_{\varphi }}\left(ax+b\right)}_{g(x)}=\underbrace{\sup_{\left(a{,}b\right)\in \mathcal E_{\varphi }\cap \mathbb Q^2}\left(ax+b\right)}_{h(x)}.$$
I understand the first equality above, but not the second one. Clearly $g(x)\geq h(x)$, but why is $g(x)\leq h(x)$? Context; I am reading a proof of Jensen's inequality for conditional expectation, and it is key to consider only the supremum over rationals.
Upon thinking some more, this is actually clear now. Thanks for the help!
Of course, feel free to add some explanation if you've got one. The more the merrier.
 
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15:33
hi
$$a \int_0^{2\pi} \left[ \cos(2t) \right] e^{a \cos t \sin t} \, dt$$
say if there exists a > 0, such that this integral is =1
how can I do?
did you compute the antiderivative?
mm wait
Studiare la seguente forma differenziale:
$\omega(x, y) = (ye^{xy} + 1) \, dx + xe^{xy} \, dy.$
Data la curva $\gamma(t) = (a \cos t, \sin t)$, $t \in [0, 2\pi]$, dire se esiste $a > 0$ tale che $\int_{\gamma} \omega = 1$.
$\gamma'(t) = (-a \sin t, \cos t)$
$\omega(\gamma(t)) = \left( \sin t \cdot e^{a \cos t \cdot \sin t} + 1 \right) d(a \cos t) + \left( a \cos t \cdot e^{a \cos t \cdot \sin t} \right) d(\sin t)$
$\int_0^{2\pi} \left[ \left( \sin t \cdot e^{a \cos t \cdot \sin t} + 1 \right)(-a \sin t) + a \cos t \cdot e^{a \cos t \cdot \sin t} \cos t \right] dt$
facendo i calcoli sono arrivato a quello di sopra
why are you using Italian...?
15:45
in the rules it says that you can also speak another language, so I thought i could
sai cos'è una forma differenziale chiusa?
@Pizza In the rules, it does not explicitly state that you cannot use a language other than English in chat (SE network policy is that all questions and answers must be in English, except for a few non-English sites). So there is no rule which says you cannot use a non-English language in chat.
it is sort of a gentlemen's agreement to speak in english
It is better to use English, when able, but no one is required to do so, and I'm not really into the idea of anyone policing which languages should be used.
anyways I said that because you were speaking in English and then u suddenly switched lol
Not because it's prohibited :P
@XanderHenderson yeah that was not my intention to begin with
15:49
Do note, however, that since I don't really speak anything other than English or Russian, I have a hair trigger when it comes to deleting flagged content in languages other than those, which means that you are more likely to get suspended if you are interacting in a language I don't understand.
@SineoftheTime mm se $\frac{\partial M}{\partial y} = \frac{\partial N}{\partial x}$
Are Binky's messages being deleted because of a suspension?
@Claudio As far as I can tell, they are deleting their own messages.
$\frac{\partial }{\partial y}(ye^{xy})=\frac{\partial }{\partial x}(xe^{xy})$ by symmetry
@Claudio is Binky suspended?
I do not think so, I don't know tbh
15:57
he's not
Not according to @XanderHenderson
since he can use chat
so no
@SineoftheTime the derivatives are equal
do you know a theorem related to closed differential forms?
or closed vector fields, I don't know which term you use
16:00
I'd like to ask something if I have a function like $\sqrt{z^2 + 1}$, is it correct to place a branch cut like $[-i,\infty] \text{ and } [i,\infty]$ instead of along $\Im(z)\in [-i,+i]$
@SineoftheTime No.
@Claudio Define "correct".
You can put a branch cut pretty much wherever you like. What is "correct" depends on what you want to do with that branch cut.
No I was asking because the point at infinity for a function like the abovementioned is a simple pole for the function
since $f(\zeta = 1/z) \sim 1/\zeta$
@XanderHenderson yeah but the point at infinity is not a well-defined point for the function
So my question is: can I always connect two branching points via the point at infinity, although the latter is not a regular point for the function
@SineoftheTime Sia $\omega = X dx + Y dy$ di classe $C^1(A)$ con $A$ aperto di $\Bbb R^2$ Allora $\omega$ esatta $\Rightarrow \omega$ chiusa
Right. What is $\int_{\gamma} \omega$ in the case $\omega$ exact and $\gamma$ closed?
No ok I suppose it is correct, for one can always express $\sqrt{f(z)} = e^{0.5 \cdot \log{f(z)}}$, and then impose that $f(z) \ne -t, t \in [0,\infty[$
16:10
$\int_\gamma \omega = \int_\gamma df$
so
$\int_{\gamma} df = f(\gamma(1)) - f(\gamma(0))$
what if $\gamma$ is closed?
$\gamma (0) = \gamma (1)$
$\int_\gamma \omega = 0$
16:12
the integral of an exact differential form along a closed curve is always zero?
but therefore I shouldn't have started the exercise like this before
right?
you can
using the definition is always correct
@XanderHenderson How can you have a hair trigger? Your avatar has no hair :P
no I'm saying how I sent it initially, didn't I waste my time doing that?
16:18
yes
it takes more time
👍, thanks!
did you study conservative fields in physics?
No, I study liberal fields
a field is conservative if, for example, the work done to move a particle from a point $P_0$ of the set $A$, to a point $P_1$ of $A$ does not depend on the curve $\gamma$ along which one moves moves, but only from the extremes $P_0$ and $P_1$ of it and from the direction of travel
any reason to believe it has a closed form?
17:20
@BinkyMcSquigglebottom sub u = tan(x/2)
Im here
How do I get out of this situation?
17:58
@SineoftheTime mathematica gives it a very simple one, namely 1/4
the effect of the substitution $x=\tan^{-1} y$ is documented here but doesn't offer any further insight
@BinkyMcSquigglebottom nicely done
(⁠◍⁠•⁠ᴗ⁠•⁠◍⁠)
It was 95% difficulty
@BinkyMcSquigglebottom another way to arrange this is to carry out the substitution $t=\ln(\tan x)$ first, rendering the integral as $$\int_{-\infty}^\infty \frac{1}{4t^2+\pi^2}\frac{dt}{1+e^{2t}}$$ at that point, using symmetry to simplify the integral is a bit more obvious
@Semiclassical wolframalpha.com/…
wolfram is not able to compute it, this is why I was skeptical
18:09
huh, that's weird
I beat wolfram omg
in those variables yeah
the substitutions $t=\ln \tan x$ or $y=\tan x$ both produce integrals which WA is perfectly happy with
but for some reason the original form throws it for loop
I found this procedure on the Internet
that's not going to do much different besides eliminate the $\pi$ and $2$ factors in the denominator
18:28
Ah okay. Its one of those where you have to think
to put a finer point on it: once you symmetrize, then what's left has an explicit antiderivative
it's just that symmetrization helping that much is not immediately obvious
guys, have you seen that Italy has been cooked from the euros by 🇨🇭?
yeah, not surprised
told my family that was gonna lose 2-0 or 3-0
3 days ago
@ephe what matters is universal properties. You can complete uniform space uniquely up to a uniform isomorphism preserving it. It doesn't matter in which way you construct it then as long as it satisfies the definition of completion
@SineoftheTime Blud is also good in getting the exact result ⊙⁠﹏⁠⊙
18:35
nah
it's the Italian team that sucks
@Jakobian I'll learn more about the universal property of completions and try to show that both constructions satisfy it. Thank you!
@SineoftheTime Messi or Ronaldo?
You just need to show both constructions satisfy the definition of a completion. Then you invoke a theorem
I read about uniform spaces mostly in different setting, using pseudometrics. It was hard to construct a completion, but easy to show uniqueness. Perhaps your experience will differ but I suspect it won't.
Of course I'm assuming you are talking about uniform spaces - topological space by itself isn't endowed with structure that allows for Cauchy sequences
@Jakobian Well the problem is that I have no idea about what the category theoretic definition of completion is supposed to be. :/ I suppose its the one given by the inverse limit and the universal property you mention is the universal property of that, right?
Though there are also Cauchy spaces, which uniform spaces are examples of, but I don't know them
@ephe just complete uniform space in which yours is a dense subspace in
Universal property I was refering to means independence of the construction
18:48
Oh then it turns out I am done hahaha. Thanks!
👍
@SineoftheTime what happened to the 2020 team?
It does seem like there is some weird linguistics issue that universal property can either mean something specific and well-defined in category theory, or just independence of construction
Isn't the former just the formalization of the latter? In the end we always seem to end up with our constructions being isomorphic up to unique isomorphism.
Yes, but to speak about the former you need to introduce what category you're talking about etc., which is useless when you just want to adress the latter
There is an issue of formalization induced baggage
So even though its a formalization, the latter is not a special case of the former
19:03
You're right. Especially in categories with some sort of topological structure the baggage seems to be pretty heavy
Category theory is a useful tool/language, but I do not think its always appropriate
This is one of my issues with people overhyped about category theory
staring at my 3 page long category theory constructions just to show a single proposition
@SoumikMukherjee it was so strong that did not qualify to the world cup💀
@BinkyMcSquigglebottom Gauss or Riemann?
@Jakobian thanks!
@user85795 it would seem that humans are unique in the notion of generational wealth
Indeed.
@Jakobian I'm glad to inform you that nobody seriously thinks this either
19:38
@Thorgott I think some people do
That's the impression I'm given
are those people serious mathematicians? and, if they are, are you certain you aren't missing an implicit understanding that they are only talking about their own and adjacent fields?
Probably just math enthusiasts
I wasn't really talking about "serious mathematicians"
@Jakobian ok, I didn't know that.
@user85795 yep. They said something sexual to me as well once and I have ignored them ever since
19:53
@SineoftheTime "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak."~Sun Tzu (actually)
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@SineoftheTime Axel Blaze or Victor Blade?
Others can respond too
never heard those names
⚽ RIP 😭
Okokok then One Piece or Dragon Ball?
I never watched dragon ball so I guess one piece
20:00
The team that makes it out of a group of death usually is weak from injuries.
@BinkyMcSquigglebottom HxH
Gintama
@SineoftheTime They are 2 characters from Inazuma Eleven
Soccer is a savage game.
22 grown men running after a piece of leather
20:15
Indeed.
20:32
@SoumikMukherjee I wear a beard under the mask
@SoumikMukherjee I study radical fields.
21:01
I see
21:22
@XanderHenderson are you a fan of B. J. Gardner's 1989 book Radical Theory
 
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@Thorgott never read it.

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