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hm so in this proof, is it just using the fact that if a function has a left and right inverse it is a bijection? @Thorgott
 
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03:32
@robjohn Ok, so are you suggesting if my answer was $x=\pm e^cy$, instead of $x=e^cy,$ then my solution is valid? If so, please consider adding your comment as an answer. This because, Narasimham's answer which I accepted, is then a faulty one, where in the comments section of his answer, he asserted my initial form of the answer is valid, which is indeed misleading as it seems. What do you think ? For convenience, I am posting you the link of the thread.
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Q: Find the solution of the differential equation $\frac{xdy-ydx}{x^2+y^2}=0.$

Fdst ZfsyFind the solution of the differential equation $\frac{xdy-ydx}{x^2+y^2}=0.$ I though this was quite an obvious differential equation. Hence, I proceeded to solve like this: Given, $\frac{xdy-ydx}{x^2+y^2}=0.$ We can write this as, $$\frac{xdy}{x^2+y^2}=\frac{ydx}{x^2+y^2}\implies xdy=ydx\implies...

@TedShifrin Thanks for your answer. It was a nice explanation.
I had one more thing to ask you or rather, to verify from you in the same line of your answer.
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Q: Find the solution of the differential equation $xdx+ydy+\frac{xdy-ydx}{x^2+y^2}=0.$

Fdst ZfsyFind the solution of the differential equation $xdx+ydy+\frac{xdy-ydx}{x^2+y^2}=0.$ My solution goes like this: Given, $xdx+ydy+\frac{xdy-ydx}{x^2+y^2}=0.$ We assume $M=x$ and $N=y.$ Now, $$\frac{\partial M}{\partial y}=0=\frac{\partial N}{\partial x}=0,$$ and hence,$xdx+ydy=0$ is an exact diffe...

given this definition of the opposite category, how can we say that $\mathbf{C}^\text{op}(c, x) = \mathbf{C}(x, c)$?
@TedShifrin The solution I presented in this approach is also an erroneous approach of solving the given differential equation, to begin with due to the same reason you mentioned, here
(i am wondering about the equal sign)
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Q: Solve the differential equation $(2x^3y+4x^3-12xy^2+3y^2-xe^y+e^{2x})dy+(12x^2y+2xy^2+4x^3-4y^3+2ye^{2x}-e^y)dx=0.$

Fdst ZfsySolve the differential equation $(2x^3y+4x^3-12xy^2+3y^2-xe^y+e^{2x})dy+(12x^2y+2xy^2+4x^3-4y^3+2ye^{2x}-e^y)dx=0.$ I tried solving the problem like this: We assume $M=(12x^2y+2xy^2+4x^3-4y^3+2ye^{2x}-e^y)$ and $N=(2x^3y+4x^3-12xy^2+3y^2-xe^y+e^{2x}).$ Now, we observe, $\frac{\partial M}{\parti...

@TedShifrin Am I correct?
Is it literally just a relabelling? As in what we called "$f$" or "an arrow pointing from $X$ to $Y$" is now relabeled to $f^\text{op}$ or "an arrow pointing from $Y$ to $X$"?
I am confused because nLab says that the collections of objects and morphisms are isomorphic not equal whereas the book by Riehl suggests equality
03:42
@Koro That's cool
so this situation reminds me more of say the dual correspondance between bras and kets in quantum mechanics where the objects are not equal but they do provide the same information
When I took (undergraduate) matrix algebra years ago, my professor used to say that one needs functional analysis to study Lie theory fully.
but idk the concept of isomorphisms is not introduced yet beyond what it means for a morphism to be an isomorphism
And I think fixing one book and following it linearly is one of the main reasons that make class boring.
There's no difference between self-studying and taking classes except you get grades
04:15
@FdstZfsy Where did this horrible problem come from?
I actually don’t see any general way to solve $df +\lambda dg = 0$ given some nonconstant $\lambda$.
Why do schools still teach ode? Especially solving some explicit ode problems. Outside ode, people satisfy with the existence and uniqueness of ode problem and even pde people don't seek explicit solutions (physics people do). They abstract everything and do their theories. Whenever they encounter ode, use computer to solve it.
Ah wait. Maybe it's related to dynamical systems
Most courses have gone more to systems (and qualitative theory) and transforms.
But why teach calculus if you’re just going to feed everything into a computer? You still need skills.
@TedShifrin I don't understand, which post of the post you are referring to ?
why do we not say "dual category" instead of "opposite category" :P
The problem in
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Q: Find the solution of the differential equation $xdx+ydy+\frac{xdy-ydx}{x^2+y^2}=0.$

Fdst ZfsyFind the solution of the differential equation $xdx+ydy+\frac{xdy-ydx}{x^2+y^2}=0.$ My solution goes like this: Given, $xdx+ydy+\frac{xdy-ydx}{x^2+y^2}=0.$ We assume $M=x$ and $N=y.$ Now, $$\frac{\partial M}{\partial y}=0=\frac{\partial N}{\partial x}=0,$$ and hence,$xdx+ydy=0$ is an exact diffe...

this post ?
04:27
mm, 'dual' is already pretty overloaded. it might make more sense to ask why we don't call more things 'opposite' things, to take the load off of 'dual.'
If so, then it's from a book called introductory course in differential equations.
No, that one is fine (and you should recognize $d\theta$). I'm talking about the absurd one I answered.
Seems like an idiotic problem. What technique have they taught you to do it ?
hm i see
@onepotatotwopotato somebody's also making the curriculum for you, so you don't have to decide what to read/do. An underrated benefit
Heya, Alex.
04:30
Hi ted
Howve you been?
Finally got covid … after 3 years. And you?
@TedShifrin Ah crap that sucks. You get the paxlovid?
hmm is this an example of the overloading of dual :P perhaps i am misunderstanding but "dual" here seems to mean something else
I'm decent. Life's thrown some bs at me this year but I'm getting over it.
04:32
Nah. I only had a couple of yucky days.
You’ve always had more than your share.
Possibly. Maybe I just complain too much? 😳
it is no longer possible to complain too much
That's good to know. I am exonerated
I would not accuse you of that.
I can't believe it's already May.
04:38
30% of 2023 is gone
The dread of 2024 is looming
I propose we skip that year
waiting for my hogwarts letter
05:03
@TedShifrin Ok. That clears it up. They have taught me just the procedure, to identify, "whether a differential equation of 1st degree and 1st order is exact or not?" and the method, for finding the "solution of an exact differential equation of 1st degree and 1st order" and this problem was an excercise to be dealt with these things.
Sorry to hear that @TedShifrin
@TedShifrin Ok, if that post, is fine as you claim, then the thing is: If the terms of a differential equation can be divided such that, we have two groups of terms, and equating each group of terms to zero gives us an exact differential equation
( say, the given differential equation is $Mdx+Ndy=0$ and if we can write this as $Pdx+Qdy+Adx+Bdy=0$ such that, $Pdx+Qdy=0$ and $Adx+Bdy=0$ are both exact differential equations) then we can solve the two equations separately to get respective solutions, $p(x,y)=c$ (on solving for $Pdx+Qdy=0$ ) and $g(x,y)=c$ (on solving $Adx+Bdy=0$ ) and claim, that $p(x,y)+g(x,y)=c$ to be a solution of $Mdx+Qdy=0$.
Is this implication, that I concluded above the right conclusion, @TedShifrin ? This is what I wanted to know to be very elaborate.
@FdstZfsy In principle every ODE $P\,dx+Q\,dy=0$ with either $P$ or $Q$ nonzero everywhere has at least a local integrating factor in the plane, but generally impossible to find.
Well, it may be a stupid solution. Remember my $dx-dy=0$ example. Work it out. No, your sum is not in general a valid solution. Just the intersection of the two solutions.
Plus, you had a sign error in one piece.
@TedShifrin Well, I was asking about math.stackexchange.com/questions/4689974/…. Are you talking about the one, you answered. If so, then I admit, there was a sign error.
7 mins ago, by Fdst Zfsy
( say, the given differential equation is $Mdx+Ndy=0$ and if we can write this as $Pdx+Qdy+Adx+Bdy=0$ such that, $Pdx+Qdy=0$ and $Adx+Bdy=0$ are both exact differential equations) then we can solve the two equations separately to get respective solutions, $p(x,y)=c$ (on solving for $Pdx+Qdy=0$ ) and $g(x,y)=c$ (on solving $Adx+Bdy=0$ ) and claim, that $p(x,y)+g(x,y)=c$ to be a solution of $Mdx+Qdy=0$.
This line of comments was in reference to the post,
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Q: Find the solution of the differential equation $xdx+ydy+\frac{xdy-ydx}{x^2+y^2}=0.$

Fdst ZfsyFind the solution of the differential equation $xdx+ydy+\frac{xdy-ydx}{x^2+y^2}=0.$ My solution goes like this: Given, $xdx+ydy+\frac{xdy-ydx}{x^2+y^2}=0.$ We assume $M=x$ and $N=y.$ Now, $$\frac{\partial M}{\partial y}=0=\frac{\partial N}{\partial x}=0,$$ and hence,$xdx+ydy=0$ is an exact diffe...

@TedShifrin If you commented this in reference, to this post, then I understand. But then, is it the case ?
05:25
The sum of solutions is not a solution in general, no. Did you work out the simple case for $dx-dy=0$. You would get the sum of $x=c_1$ and $y=c_2$, and $x+y=c$ is not a solution,
I advise you to erase your method permanently.
05:37
Adjoint of finite rank operator in hilber space also has finite rank?
Ah it's true
This is Stein's proof of if $T$ is a compact operator then $T^*$ is compact.
I guess $T^*P_n$ is a typo?
Why?
isn’t $P_n$ a projection, hence self-adjoint?
yeah, why would it be a typo? its a basic appeal to continuity of the adjoint in the norm topology (and presumably P_n is self adjoint as ted suggests)
Oh I just checked projeciton is self-adjoint. Typo was my brain.
05:53
the result is also true for more general banach spaces (where the banach space adjoint plays the role of T*) although you cannot use the implication 'compact' => 'is a norm limit of finite rank operators' in general. in fact, i think it's an if and only if even if the banach space is not reflexive.
what is the characterization of compact, then?
Adjoint of finite rank is finite rank is true anyway?
It's a map from finite dimensional subspace
uh, pick your definition. maps the closed unit ball into a precompact subset. thats one definition.
I’m rusty!
there's stuff very close to 'is a norm limit of finite rank operators' that holds in general, but its definitely a weaker condition than that, in general.
onepotato: if you want a more general approach (with an if and only if, for banach spaces) see arxiv.org/abs/1010.1298
the 'lemma 1' there is playing the banach role of being a norm limit of finite rank operators.
ted there was actually a bit of movement in what people wanted compact operators to be, for a while. of course it's all blended up together in the hilbert space case.
it was "maps weakly convergent sequences to norm convergent ones" for a while. that's equivalent to compactness / norm approximability via finite rank operators in the hilbert space case, but not in general.
any book or article before 1960 or so is going to use different words, or use familiar words given an unfamiliar meaning.
06:05
@onepotatotwopotato not to me yet :(.
It's a good chance to know what Haar measure is. I always wondered what that is.
it's a measure on compact top. group G that is invariant on multiplication by Borel sets of G.
But I don't know understand why and where it is required.
in particular, in functional analysis
sounds like a good reason to take a course :)
more seriously i realize it is something of a point of annoyance for you, so i'll avoid it. any material in the wrong hands can be annoying, and it sounds like your program is full of the wrong hands.
hah XD
If I am teaching for example Banach Alaouglo theorem: I'll put emphasize on "compactness of closed unit ball in a normed space". closed unit ball in a normed space is compact iff the space is finite dimensional.
But in dual of X, the unit ball is compact in weak* topo.
Instead of just writing: Theorem: [...]
Proof: [...]
I understood its importance through self study and not from class. In the class, it was just written on the board in the above format, that's it.
07:00
@TedShifrin ok, that's actually the most reasonable thing to do then Thanks!
07:19
I probably will take probability theory next semester, maybe I can (finally) learn what random walk is about.
@SillyGoose in (i) => (ii), yes
 
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08:27
What does it mean to say that $f:[a,b]\to R $ is equicontinuous?
Equicontinuity is usually for collection of functions
yes, indeed.
If it consists of sinlge function, then it's just uniform continuity
But apparently there is another definition for a single function requiring partitions of [a,b]
I don't recall that at the moment.
08:46
I always say that analysts should teach point-set topology, not topologists.
09:09
Being (more or less) a topologist, I disagree
 
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10:11
Hi everyone.
Do we have a chatroom dedicated for algebraic topology?
10:27
as far as I know , no
there is a discord server for it, but it is very advanced
invite pls
well, ask in Affinoidoid Voidoid (another grad math discord server)
I don't have the invite with me
but let me tell , you these guys are really advanced
Affinoidoid Voidoid returns no search results
@TrystwithFreedom How much advanced tho? I'm a grad student pursuing to Master's degree.
like, beyond human comprehension
like I can somewhat follow along hatcher but these guys discussions are like
can't even describe
10:34
are you sure it's typed Affinoidoid Voidoid
Currently my topic in research is computation of homotopies whose domain is a product of co-H-spaces. Would that fit?
Thx
Sidenote: I learnt homology by Vick and homotopy by Arkowitz.
10:47
Richard Hell and the Voidoids were an American punk rock band, formed in New York City in 1976 and fronted by Richard Hell, a former member of the Neon Boys, Television and the Heartbreakers. == History == Kentucky-born Richard Meyers moved to New York City after dropping out of high school in 1966, aspiring to become a poet. He and his best friend from high school, Tom Miller, founded the rock band the Neon Boys which became Television in 1973. The pair adopted stage names; Miller called himself Verlaine after Paul Verlaine, a French poet he admired, and Meyers became Richard Hell because, as...
Suppose $f:U\subset\Bbb C\to\Bbb C$ is a holomorphic function with $f(z_0) = z_0$ for some $z_0\in U$. If $f'(z_0) = \mu$, $0\leq |\mu|<1$ then I can find a small nbd $V$ of $z_0$ such that $f$ is contraction on $V$: $|f(z)-f(z_0)|\leq C|z-z_0|$ for $C<1$ on $z\in V$.
This is by definition
Kinda wonder what would've happened if I learned Affine geometry before "normal" geometry
Hard to "unlearn" the concept of angle
11:53
anything written on best approximation to functions by polynomials with bounded degree?
i.e. the problem begins by a bound on the degree of the polynomial
You know Lagrange approximation, right?
no, is it related? i'd read into it if it helps approach the problem
In numerical analysis, the Lagrange interpolating polynomial is the unique polynomial of lowest degree that interpolates a given set of data. Given a data set of coordinate pairs ( x j , y j ) {\displaystyle (x_{j},y_{j})} with 0 ≤ j ≤ k , {\displaystyle 0\leq j\leq k,} the x...
this?
Yeah, that's it.
thanks a lot for the reference!
12:47
I realized that I made a mistake in my exam.
The question was: E is Banach space, F is proper subspace of E. Dual of E, E* is strictly convex then given any bounded linear f in F*, it extends uniquely to a norm preserving map in E*.
(done)
It would be narcissism to expect me to understand some math concepts or proof at first sight
Then example of a Banach space whose dual is strictly convex.
Is it functional analysis?
I answered R but I made a calculation error in justifying why R is the answer.
@DannyuNDos yes
I said: dual of R is R. Take any x, y with |x|=|y|=1. If |x+y|/2=1 then |x|+|y|=|x+y|. Hence 2xy=0 :(:(
Contradiction.
|x+y|/2 can't be 1 if x not equal to Y with |x|=|y|=1. It has to be strictly less than 1.
My example is correct but way of showing why so is not.
I could have simply said: |x|=|y|=1,x not equal to Y means x=1,y=-1 WLOG.
Done.
:(
12:59
highly appreciated, thank you!
Simple Lagrange polys are fine for interpolation, but they usually go crazy if you need to extrapolate outside the region of the points you used to create the poly. Admittedly, Chebyshev & Remez minimax polys aren't well-behaved outside the target interval, either.
noted
But if you only need a bounded interval, a minimax poly is, by definition, the best poly approximation for a poly of that degree.
this is usually treated in numerical analysis, right?
@shintuku You can approximate lot of functions by polynomials using Gram Schmidt process also.
13:06
However, you can often do better with a ratio of polys: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pad%C3%A9_approximant
@shintuku Indeed.
will look this stuff up, thanks for the comments!
No worries. It can be fun looking for good approximations, but it can also be a bit frustrating. ;) Analysis can guide the search, but there's also a bit of luck, guesswork, and experience involved.
Maybe someone seen this before
How do you prove that if a space has unique compactification then it's locally compact?
@Koro On a related note: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
13:26
@Jakobian My attempt: Given a completely regular space X, if X has unique compactification, its Stone-Čech compactification coincides with its one-point compactification. Since the Stone-Čech compactification is Hausdorff, the one-point compactification is Hausdorff also. We conclude X was locally compact Hausdorff to begin with.
@DannyuNDos compactifications mean Hausdorff compactifications here
So you can't say it coincides with one-point compactification unless you already know it's locally compact
14:01
I am trying to understand the proof that if $f$ is continuous on $[a,b]$, then it is bounded on $[a,b]$. The following is a proof by Spivak in Calculus:
> Choose $x_n$ with $f(x_n)>n$. There is a subsequence $x_{n_j}$ which converges to a point $x$, which is in $[a,b]$. Thus for every $\epsilon>0$ there are infinitely many $x_{n_j}$with $|x-x_{n_j}|<\epsilon$, and consequently $f$ is unbounded on $[x-\epsilon,x+\epsilon]$, contradicting the fact that $f$ is continuous at $x$.
I do not understand the part "...and consequently $f$ is unbounded on $[x-\epsilon,x+\epsilon]$...". If someone could clarify, I'd be very grateful.
@schn $n_j$ goes to infinity and $f(n_j) > n_j$
@shintuku hmm, makes sense
@shintuku but shouldn't it only be unbounded on $(x-\epsilon, x+\epsilon)$? or is it correct with the closed interval?
Well, we have infinitely many $x_{n_j}$ in the closed interval too I guess
thanks for clarifying!
@schn that interval is inside $[a,b]$
so if it is unbounded inside an interval of $[a,b]$, it is unbounded also on $[a,b]$
yes
open interval also works, the discontinuity happens at $x$
14:20
@robjohn sir can u reactivate my room please..?
I'm trying to compare salaries. I made this equation:
salaryNew*(1-(150-90)/100)
= salaryNew*40%

My cost of living index is about 90
Another is about 150
The average of the US is 100
However, I think the equation is missing an absolute value sign or something...

If another cost of living index is 250 (instead of 150)
salaryNew*(1-(250-90)/100)
= salaryNew*(-60%)
Negative 60% doesn't make sense to me...
Any ideas how to fix it?
14:47
I'm trying to prove that, for a differentiable function $f:(a,b)\to\mathbb{R}$ such that $f'(x) \ne 0$ in $(a,b)$ and such that $\lim_{x \to a^+} f(x)=+\infty$, there exists a right neighborhood of $a$ in which $f$ is decreasing. I tried this: since $f'(x) \ne 0$, for each $x \in (a,b)$ it is $f'(x)>0$ or $f'(x)<0$. Assuming $f'(x)>0$ in $(a,a+r)$ for some $r>0$, we have that $f$ is increasing in $(a,a+r)$ and so $f(x)<f(a+r)$ for each $x\in (a,a+r)$.
But $f(x) \to +\infty$ as $x \to a^+$, so there exists $R>0$ such that $f(x)>f(a+r)$ for each $x \in (a,a+R)$. So, for each $x \in \left(a,a+\min\{r,R\}\right)$ it is $f(x)>f(a+r)$ and $f(x)<f(a+r)$, a contradiction. So, it must be $f'(x)<0$ in $(a,a+r)$, that is $f$ is decreasing in a right neighborhood of $a$.
Is this proof valid?
A correction: in the last part, I meant: "$f(x)>f\left(a+\min\{r,R\}\right)$ and $f(x)<f\left(a+\min\{r,R\}\right)$, a contradiction"
consider the group $\mathrm{SO}(3)$ of all rotations of a sphere $S^2.$ Let $x$ be the north pole $(0,0,1).$ Then a rotation which does not change $x$ must turn about the usual axis, leaving the north pole and the south pole fixed. These rotations correspond to the action of the circle group $S^1$ on the equator. So are $x$ and its antipodal point $(0,0,-1)$ stabilizers?
@DannyuNDos theorem 3.5.12 in Engelking
15:04
It seems like the proof is that we remove two points from the remainder and then take one-point compactification of that.
15:26
confused screaming
Any ideas?
15:43
Let's see some affine/projective geometry questions instead.
and no pictures only algebra
16:00
@TedShifrin you're just gonna have to wait until I actually become familiar with it to a reasonable degree. I even made a comment here that "unlearning" the concept of angle is a bit tricky
Well, let's ban all angle questions for two months.
@shintuku I object to that.
@TedShifrin that's like telling an addict to stay off drugs
Precisely.
That analogy didn't work in my favor did it
@冥王Hades is this a 3D shape or a 2d structure?
16:14
@PlaceReporter99 its a 2D shape
 
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17:14
What is [Q($\sqrt 2)(\sqrt 3): Q(\sqrt 2)]$?
It is less or equal to 2 because $x^2-3\in Q(\sqrt 2)[x]$.
I think we can't directly say: Irr($\sqrt 3, Q(\sqrt 2))=x^2-3$.
if it were $1$, you'd have $\sqrt{3}\in\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{2})$. could that be the case?
But anyways, if it is 1, then we'll have $Q(\sqrt 2)(\sqrt 3)= Q(\sqrt 2)$.
@Thorgott no, it can't be.
If we had [Q(\sqrt 2): Q] instead, then the minimum pol. of sqrt 2 is x^2 -2.
One can say that it is due to Eisenstein's that x^2-2 is irred. in Q.
There's a story I remember hearing/reading, but I'm not sure where. Essentially the idea is that a professor gave a task to some of his graduate students. To make a program that, in general, when fend an image, could identify whether or not a book was in the image. Then three of the graduate students got their PhDs just trying to pose the problem. Does this ring a bell for anyone?
Hmm, I think we can conclude using Eisenstein’s also.
noting that A= Q[\sqrt 2] implies (A)= Q(sqrt 2) because sqrt 2 is algebraic over Q.
That is, (A) is field of fraction of A.
But I think then we’ll have to show that 3 is prime in Q(sqrt 2).
17:34
@冥王Hades I know what the angle is, but I need to find a better way to show it.
hey all!
I tried to show 3 is prime in Q(\sqrt 2) but it's getting lengthy.
It’s easier to show directly that $\sqrt3\notin \Bbb Q(\sqrt2)$.
yes professor, I can show that.
But I was thinking of showing (3) is prime ideal in Q(sqrt 2).
(alternatively)
Easy over $\Bbb Z$, but I don’t see it with $\Bbb Q$.
17:39
prime = irreducible in field so showing that 3 is irreducible should also do just fine.
But 3 is a unit in $\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{2})$
@robjohn its 70 isn't it?
Yes (degrees)
@robjohn I found a proof
@Rithaniel oh right!!
17:43
@冥王Hades Okay. I have a proof, but it is ugly and highly trigonometric.
I hate French analysis school.
@Rithaniel How?
@TedShifrin $\frac{1}{3}\in\mathbb{Q}\subseteq\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{2})$
@Rithaniel that explains why I can’t apply Eisenstein’s here.
@robjohn here's mine
17:45
Oh, duh. Have to work over $\Bbb Z$.
But let’s say we want to do it: Take A= Z[sqrt 2].
AC subtends $30^\circ$ at two points. The "completed" quadrilateral is cyclic.
Now I take its field of fractions (A).
Can’t write $3=a^2-2b^2$ for integers $a$, $b$.
If (A)= Q(sqrt 2), which seems plausible. Then, we apply Eisenstein’s to conclude.
Hmm, that brings an another conjecture: If R is an integral domain. Appending a b to it, (R[b])= (R)(b).
(R) denotes field of fractions of R.
@TedShifrin yes. Can we use this information to apply Eisenstein’s?
17:52
ah okay thank you thorgott
perhaps i will learn yoneda lemma in this chapter...
Supposing b to be algebraic over (R), we can say that (R)(b)= (R)[b].
ah no it is in the next heh
Ohh
whence the conjecture follows in case b is algebraic!!
So we can apply Eisenstein’s.
In our case, R= Z, b is $\sqrt 2$.
Ahh, there is another problem: why is R[b] an integral domain?
Re: $\sqrt{3}\notin\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{2})$ - You can reduce to the case of $\sqrt{3}\notin\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{2}]$ by saying that $\sqrt{3}=\frac{a}{b}+\frac{c\sqrt{2}}{d}+\frac{e}{f\sqrt{2}}$, and then clear denominators to get an equality that uses only integers, $\sqrt{2}$ and $\sqrt{3}$
Is it possible to approximate $frac{\cos(n)}{\log(n)+\cos(n)}\sim \frac{\cos(n)}{\log(n)}-\frac{\cos^2(n)}{\log^2(n)}$ to conclude the series $\sum\limits_{n\geq 1} \dfrac{\cos(n)}{\ln(n)+\cos(n)}$ diverges, or is this approximation not good enough?
18:00


There are 5 holes on a wall and a total of 17 pigeons have to be kept in them. Which of the following options(choices) are correct and can be the best suitable arrangement?
a) Every filled/occupied hole has a minimum of 3 pigeons
b) Every filled /occupied hole has at least 2 pigeons but not
more than 4 pigeons
c) Every filled/occupied hole has not less than 2 pigeons
d) All of the above
e) The filled/occupied holes have not less than 4 pigeons

The answer key says it's the second option (b) but I really cant wrap my head around why the first option (a) is wrong
@Rithaniel You certainly don’t need the last term. How to clear denominators?
None of it makes sense to me, @Satya. Who knows what “best suitable” means.
“Has not less than” is awkward and confusing, too.
@DavidP I do not follow you.
@TedShifrin I think "best suitable" tries to imply that one should attempt to make it least crowded crowded for the pigeons but indeed the language confusing
Makes no sense to me.
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18:17
My thought was to use that $frac{\cos(n)}{\log(n)+\cos(n)}\sim \frac{\cos(n)}{\log(n)}-\frac{\cos^2(n)}{\log^2(n)}$, since $\lim_{n\to\infty} \frac{frac{\cos(n)}{\log(n)+\cos(n)}}{\frac{\cos(n)}{\log(n)}-\frac{\cos^2(n)}{\log^2(n)}}=1$. So we can compare and since $\sum\limits_{n\geq 2} \dfrac{\cos(n)}{\log(n)}$ converges and $\sum\limits_{n\geq 2} \dfrac{\cos^2(n)}{\log^2(n)}$ diverges, the original series diverges also.
Your ChatJax errors are distracting here.
Why does $\sum\frac{\cos n}{\log n}$ converge?
And why is that limit $1$?
18:32
I was just asking, if my conclusion is right, if I can prove this above. For convergence for the series see for example there: math.stackexchange.com/questions/744125/… The limit I checked with WA. If the conclusion is alright, I will try to prove the limit "by hand".
Came across an interesting question. Does the intersection of a rectangular parallelepiped with a plane, form an equilateral pentagon?
Its translated from Russian
Ah, funny that I even answered that one. You just packed way too much in here for those of us not thinking about it. Why the divergence? Removing $\cos n$ from your limit, it certainly looks wrong. @DavidP
Badly translated, Hades.
Can it, not does it.
Now I understand why $Q(2^{1/4})$ is field isom. to $Q(i2^{1/4})$
In one of my exams, I wrote since the former has no element x with the property that $x^2<0$, they are not isom.
They are isom. because of the following: If $\sigma: K\to L$ is a field isom. $f$ is irred. over K. Suppose it has a root a. Suppose $\sigma (f)$ has a root b. Then, $K(a)$ is isom. to $L(b)$.
In the above, take $K=L=Q,\sigma= id, f(x)= x^4-2$
18:47
I was not removing the $\cos(n)$, I wanted compare with (asymptotic equivalent sequence) and write (formally) $\sum\limits_{n\geq 1} \frac{\cos(n)}{\log(n)+\cos(n)} \approx \sum\limits_{n\geq 2} \frac{\cos(n)}{\log(n)}-\sum\limits_{n\geq 2} \frac{\cos^2(n)}{\log^2(n)}$ and since on the right hand side the first series converges and the second diverges, so does the left hand side. Is that a valid conclusion?
@TedShifrin yeah just confirmed it. It asks "Can the intersection of a rectangular parallelepiped and a plane form an equilateral pentagon?"
@TedShifrin Well, $\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{2})$ is a field (parentheses rather than square brackets), meaning that it contains $\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}$, which isn't in $\mathbb{Q}[\sqrt{2}]$, so yeah, I think you do need it. As for how to clear denominators, just multiply the whole thing by $bdf\sqrt{2}$. You get $n\sqrt{6}=k+m\sqrt{2}$ with $k,m,n\in\mathbb{Z}$, after the correct replacements.
So, it's more $n\sqrt{6}\notin\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{2}]$, so not the exact same statement, but you can apply the same approaches
@冥王Hades That incorporates my correction.
I have one doubt: Suppose that F is a field, $K\supset F$ is a field extension of F. Why is unit of F still a unit of K?
@Rithaniel Don’t be silly. Of course $1/\sqrt 2 = \sqrt2/2$.
18:51
@TedShifrin Ah, yes, of course
@Rithaniel they both are same. $Q(\sqrt 2)= Q[\sqrt 2]$.
If we’re talking fields, every nonzero element is a unit.
Well, everyone finds that they're silly from time to time
Yeah, you got me good earlier.
yes true. I should have added one more thing: Suppose that in particular F=Q. Then can I say that 1. k=k for all k in K? Here 1 is in Q.
18:53
@TedShifrin A line passing through a quadrilateral will only intersect it at two points right?
@冥王Hades (If it's convex)
@Rithaniel oh yeah, thanks for the correction.
@DavidP I cannot keep up with all the bits and pieces. Is limit comparison valid for non-positive series? I still don’t see the limit comparison as valid, anyhow.
Can this fact be extended to 3 dimensions? A plane only intersects, say a rectangle, at 4 points only?
Well, what is a rectangle in 3 dimensions? Do you mean a 2D rectangle embedded into 3-space? Is this meant to be the boundary of a cuboid? The edge-frame of a cuboid?
18:58
Oh yes of course. For any $x\ne 0$ in Q. $x^{-1}x=1$. And the identity is unique so we are done.
@Rithaniel my terminology is messed up. What I wanted to say is, can we say that a plane only intersects a cuboid at 4 points at most?
@Ted Shifrin: Ok - I will think about it a little bit more. Thank you very much for your time!
Conclusion: Every field homomorphism from K to F (both extensions of Q) is a Q-homomorphism.
@冥王Hades Well, again, depends on your definition. A cuboid is generally the object and all points interior to it. Do you mean the edges that define the cuboid? (Also, for that matter, a rectangle also generally includes the interior, and I kinda assumed you meant the edges of the rectangle, only)
@Rithaniel just the edges, we aren't considering the "insides" of the cuboid or the rectangle
19:02
Also, question: What about the unit square $Bd([0,1]^2)$ with the line being $x=0$? Wouldn't that have infinitely many intersections?
I got what you were saying initially, with the line only intersecting a quadrilateral at two points (after all, I corrected you with convexity), but, thinking about it, you need the line to be through a point interior to the quadrilateral
@Rithaniel I mean, you aren't wrong, but I'm quite sure the question doesn't care about those "edge cases" no pun intended. It probably just means a plane that intersects a cuboid to form another 2D shape when those points are joined
@Rithaniel sure but that "interior point" won't define the shape that forms
(Also, you can get a plane that intersects the edge frame of a cube at 6 points)
@Rithaniel How?
Pick two opposite vertices on the cube. Consider the two collections of three points that are a singular edge away from one of those two points. Construct the two planes that are through those three points, respectively. These are distinct planes, and any plane fully between those two planes will intersect six edges of the cube
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19:10
@Rithaniel but that's the intersection of 2 distinct planes as you said, I don't think that's what the question talking about
This is a specific counterexample, but I'm sure you could do it in more generality for any paralepidid
@冥王Hades No, it's a singular plane. I'm constructing the plane as being parallel to two others
@geocalc33 Fancy
@Rithaniel do you have a drawing or simulation for that?
(Made me open up Blender)
19:19
This makes the question ever more confusing now
What I would look into is whether a tesseract-frame can be intersected by a 3D subspace at 20 points (because then that might imply that you're looking at something of the form $\binom{2(d-1)}{d-1}$, where $d$ is the dimension of the parent space)
Actually, you might be able to get 24, which would imply that the formula is just $d!$
19:56
@DavidP Here is an example to show that limit comparison fails when you do not have all positive terms.
is there a mathematical way to express a bound on the number of terms of a polynomial? say I am looking for the best polynomial approximation to a transcendental function s.t. the polynomial has at most 3 terms
Nonzero terms, of course. You mean the three terms of lowest degree, or do you allow any three monomials?
I'd want a polynomial that has at most three nonzero monomials
I would say (if I had to) the polynomial of lowest degree having three nonzero terms.
but say, is there an analytic/algebraic expression of this space?
or an analytic/algebraic expression of the space of such polynomials, polynomials made of at most 3 monomials, and we're looking inside of it to find the best approximation
it's clearly something smaller than the polynomials in a ring of polynomials
20:07
for any fixed trio of monomials you at least have a vector space (its span), and you can use that structure in approximation. depending on what 'best approximation' means it might not be that easy to compute, but at least e.g. hilbert space methods would work. i don't know how you'd minimize over all trios of monomials. that's not a vector space, anyway.
i was just starting to think of some basis that's made of monomials
maybe the set of all vector spaces with monomial trio bases?
don't know if there's any way to work with that though
it's also not particularly simple to single out from the point of view of an abstract vector space, where the monomials are just one of many possible bases. they diagonalize various operators that act on polynomials, but i don't know how you distiguish "three mononomials" from "three things in the span of an eigenspace of something" without more.
Hey. Is 1/ln(1-x) ~ 1/(-x) when x goes to 0?
theres something kind of related, which is finding the best approximation to an operator (not a vector) in terms of operators of finite rank. "what's the closest thing to [this] that has rank at most 3" is a question that sometimes has an answer, for some notions of "closer." but i don't see an immediate relation of that theory to this, for the reason that "rank 3" or "spanned by 3 vectors" is not capturing "spanned by 3 mononomials."
its pretty easy to come up with optimization problems that don't have theoretically simple solutions, and this might be one of them.
i'll keep the operator stuff in mind
20:13
Or should both límits exist? I am getting a wrong answer when applying that equivalence
20:34
i forgot to say thanks, thanks
odes: how are you interpreting ~ ? and are you working with a situation where that interpretation of ~ is the one that is useful?
Galois theory is amazing :-).
20:52
@leslietownes I just got back but was about to ask precisely this.
Equivalence, i.e: lim x->a g(x)/f(x) = 1 iff g(x) ~ f(x) when x -> a
Hence: lim x->0 1/ln(1-x) - (ax-1)/x = lim x->0 1/(-x) - (ax-1)/x = lim x->0 (-1-ax+1)/x = -a
Which is false, it should be 1/2-a
But i dont see where the error is
It's impossible to read this. You really have to use ChatJax.
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