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if $\mathcal{L}\{1 \cdot f(t)\}$ can be written as $f(t) \ast 1 = \int_0^t f(\tau) d\tau$ can't it also be $1 \ast f(t) = \int_0^t f(t-\tau)d\tau$
I guess I'm wondering is $\int_0^t f(t-\tau)d\tau =? \int_0^t f(\tau)d\tau$
I think it is true in the general case but it looks weird
Hello all. I was wondering: so we can define the matrix exponential. Is the definition the taylor series for the exponential on say real numbers $e^x$ except replace $x$ with your matrix?
I am wondering in particular if the idea of a taylor series exists for functions defined on domains more general than just scalars
err sorry I think i found an answer to this question: math.stackexchange.com/questions/4177818/…
00:16
Yes, yes …
00:53
some charlatan even wrote a book that might have a section on other versions of taylor's series. depends on how multivariable he actually got with his mathematics.
Not this charlatan.
i want my money back
Didn’t Munchkin celebrate the Dominion result? What money would that be? The lesliecoin you owe me?
the pennies of electricity i used while locating and downloading a pirated copy of your book. i want them back
Shows you wasted them if you don’t even know what’s in the book. 🤷‍♂️
01:07
ted, you have one of the world's largest supplies of lesliecoin in circulation. i don't know why you would besmirch the good name of a currency that you hold.
If $0$ is largest, then that means ….
01:27
How do you work with step functions?
01:42
Huh. So if you have something like $\mathcal{L}\{e^{-t}\ast e^t \cos t\}$ you'd want to do $\mathcal{L}\{e^{-t}\}\mathcal{L}\{e^t\}$ but what about the $\cos t$ term
When you write * you mean convolution?
yes
I can't even use wolfram alpha anymore for these problems
You can’t ignore the cos.
Should I write the convolution in integral form ?
I know the theorem $\mathcal{L}\{f\ast g\}= \mathcal{L}\{f(t)\}\mathcal{L}\{g(t)\} = F(s)G(s)$
Not sure how to deal with the cosine
oh
Just use your product formula with $e^t\cos t$ in the second.
01:51
I just consider $e^t \cos t = g(t)$
right
@DLeftAdjointtoU Usually, I put on a comfortable pair of shoes, and hope that I don't stub my toe.
@TedShifrin Be-cos it is an important part of the question?
02:18
I'm worried that even though I'm getting all of these practice problems right , my brain is going to poop on the test
Like it looks so straight forward now .. c'est la cramming
hmm so $$\mathcal{L}\left\{t\int_0^t \sin \tau \,\mathrm{d} \tau\right\}$$ I could set it up as $\{t \cdot 1 \ast \sin t\}$ but Idk what I'd do after
It's telling me to transform it before evaluating any integrals btw
@Obliv Fixed that for you. :/
:P
Huh
It didn't seem to be edited
I had to refresh I see it now
Those braces are much nicer I will adopt them
02:34
Hi! Can I get a hint here:
> If $\mathrm{f}(\mathrm{x})=\lim _{\mathrm{n} \rightarrow \infty}\left(\sum_{\mathrm{r}=1}^{\mathrm{n}} \mathrm{r} \cos ^{\mathrm{r}} \mathrm{x}\right)$ where $\mathrm{x} \in \mathrm{R}-\{\mathrm{n} \pi, \mathrm{n} \in \mathrm{I}\}
$ , then find the value of $\left[\lim _{x \rightarrow 0}\left((1-\cos x)^{2} f(x)\right)^{\frac{1}{\cos x-1}}\right]$ (where [.]is greatest integer function)
I've got no clue :(
what kind of madman uses r as a sum index
if |u| < 1 then sum_{r=1}^infty r u^r = u * sum_{r=1}^infty r u^{r-1} = u * (the derivative, with respect to u, of sum_{r=1}^infty u^r), with that last sum being a geometric series, does that help?
03:09
Same type of madmen that don't use dollar signs when writing in Mathjax.............
@TedShifrin I was hoping it would go to trial and they wouldn't settle.....now it is going to be swept under the rug...
@leslietownes Yeah that gives [e]=2 which is correct. Thanks :)
I admire Leslie's commitment to not using latex, and being able to decipher it since I imagine they don't have the script enabled
@leslietownes From where did this come?
03:33
@D.C.theIII Yup, so much for helping to save democracy.
@XanderHenderson smack
I just read one of the statements the FOX lawyers released already talking about "mismatches in journalistic integrity"..........like give me a F-🤬-in break............
I don't understand why taylor series are called a special case of power series
taylor series are polynomials and power series are an infinite sum of numbers
Would be really nice if $\frac{1}{1+\frac{1}{s}}$ and $\frac{1}{1+\frac{1}{s^2}}$ had a simple inverse transform
@SillyGoose because power series are powerful
And taylor series are taylored to polynomials
@SillyGoose Huh?
Wrong on both.
Now I'm stuck on two separate problems where I have the form $F(s) = \frac{1}{s} \cdot \frac{1}{1+\frac{1}{s}}$ and $F(s) = \frac{1}{(s-1)^2} \cdot \frac{1}{1+\frac{1}{s^2}}$
I just wanna take the inverse transform and it's being difficult
@TedShifrin taylor polynomials /ne taylor series ?
I don't remember calc 2
03:47
Seems pretty clear that a power series in Rudin is not a function of any variable
and is thus an infinite sum of numbers
If your objection is that the taylor series as in the infinite sum is not a polynomial i guess sure.
but my point is that power series as defined in Rudin has no variable dependence whereas taylor series of functions do. but everywhere online people say that taylor series are particular power series
quack
obliv it helps to separate out a few concepts. any function that is N-times differentiable at a point has an Nth taylor polynomial at that point. some functions aren't differentiable to every order at a point, though.
if the function is infinitely differentiable at a point, you can at least form the "taylor series" as a formal thing, but without more information, you don't automatically know that it converges anywhere except the point where you did the expansion.
In chapter 8 I guess the power series representation of a function is a distinct concept from power series
so "taylor's theorem" as you see it in calculus books often handels a couple of things. it often handles how a finite order taylor polynomial relates to the function that generated it. sometimes it provides estimates of the 'remainder term' (= difference between function and taylor polynomial) in terms of the order of the polynomial.
Oooh that's neat
03:55
once you're talking about "representing" a function in terms of a taylor series, you're automatically thinking, infinitely differentiable functions, and also having to think about - gee, what happens to that remainder.
So to deal with the remainder you make the series go to infinity?
which you can fail to notice on the tenth time through a calculus book because it tends to arrive, if at all, near the end of a term, and because most calculus people don't like thinking about estimates and inequalities.
okay i think i see the problem
there are series and then series of functions
obliv: it's up to you what you do. there isn't one path through all of this stuff.
i guess people loosely say power series when they mean power series of a function or power series representation of a function
03:57
that's a helpful way of looking at it. if you have any series with a variable in it, and you want to think of it as a 'function' of that variable, you've suddenly got to wonder about questions of convergence a whole lot more.
because you're not just considering convergence of one numerical series, but for a family of them, as your 'variable' varies.
okay i see this clears it up! tak
the thing that makes a power series a "power series" is it's sum_n [sequence of numbers depending only on n] x^n, with x the variable, or the same in 'powers' of (x-c) with c fixed. but this thing might or might not represent a function. it might converge only for x = 0 and not be anything at all otherwise.
well darn
@SillyGoose Pretty clear you’re just totally wrong. Go learn.
An interesting group theory exam problem I took an hour ago: Let $F$ be a field with $p^n$ elements, $D$ a diagonal, $U$ strictly upper triangular, $T$ triangular matrices of $\mathrm{GL}_2(F)$. Let $r$ be an integer $1\leq r\leq p^n-1$. Construct an injective group homomorphism $\phi_r:F\rtimes_{\psi_r}F^\times\to T$ such that $\phi_r(F)<U$ and $\phi_r(F^\times)<D$ where $\psi_r:F^\times\to\mathrm{Aut}(F)$ by $\psi_r(\gamma)(a)=\gamma^r\cdot a$ for each $\gamma\in F^\times$ and $a\in F$.
04:02
@SillyGoose Also not true .
care to explain why there are two different versions of power series in rudin then?
and why definition 3.38 says "z is a complex number"
Hmm I wonder what $$\mathcal{L}^{-1}\left\{\frac{1}{(s-1)^2}\cdot \frac{s^2}{s^2 - 1}\right\}$$ is.. since I can put it in the form $\frac{te^t}{2}\ast \cos t \ast s$ Does that look right?
There aren’t.
or would you just like to point out whatever you wish as wrong
Go back to Spivak one variable calculus for a basic explanation on series, then return to Rudin.......if it "must" be RUdin. but many have said Rudin ain't it..
it's a good treatment of them in Spivak
04:04
@SillyGoose Yes.
Don’t pretend that a table of contents constitutes an education. Geez.
lol I posted definition 3.38 and also posted the reference of power series concerning functions above
Just cut out the “it’s pretty clear” arrogance in your ignorance.
i reposted the table of contents because you can't seem to read the text
I suggest you acquire both humility and a serious education.
04:06
ducks under the gunfire
"pretty clear", "intuitive", "trivial"...........all the vernacular picked up from Profs in lecture
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@Obliv That is what you want. There are actually applications, however, in which the remainder term blows up.
well ill just assume you don't know yourself :-)
Right. 40 years of university teaching. You’re just an ass.
contemplates kicking the punk out
40 years and you can't tell me why definition 3.38 is not an infinite sum of numbers :-)
04:10
@D.C.theIII These are all phrases which we should strive to eliminate from our vocabulary. Definitely from our writing, and hopefully from our spoken language, as well.
@SillyGoose don't act like anyone is entitled to give you an answer.
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They are useless verbal tics which convey no information, and only serve to make students feel bad about their ignorance.
If Ted says "wrong." in a gruff manner, take that as a gift.
and reflect on your question and dig for yourself.
@XanderHenderson Took the words right out of my mouth...for a long time I felt stupid because I didn't "instantly" get it
@D.C.theIII Yeah, I got called to task for it when I started student teaching. I did not get along well with my supervisor, but she had some good advice sometimes.
04:12
Teaching is seriously part-time cheer-leading.
You're supervisor was was aware and empathetic.
I never get any cheers from you tho...
Ted is retired. He doesn't have to cheer lead any more.
And if you are talking to me, you ain't my student. :P
Occasionally, but not often. Are you paying my salary? :)
@D.C.theIII maybe after you've solved all of the millennium problems
Get's to let out all those years of suppressed "home truths" he may have wanted to tell students in previous years...
04:15
Jeebus... it's after 9. I should be in bed.
G'night.
I just found out about a 12 yr old who teaches part-time at MIT and part-time in India. But I can’t see that he got any graduate degrees or wrote a thesis. Fascinating.
@Xander Good morning (it's past 12 here)
Terrence Tao on steroids?
Night, Xander.
BUenas noches
04:16
Way past Terry. Recognized by Harvard before he was 5 or something.
Спокойной ночи, малыши.
@TedShifrin was it jake barnatt or whoever it was
Before 5?..... This makes no sense to me...literally doing calculus out of the womb
Who? No, this is a Bengladashi-American kid.
Literally.
Guten nacht
04:17
Gute Nacht
There was that one kid William James Siddis but he went off the deep end pretty early unfortunately
@XanderHenderson I want to learn this language 😍
I don't like the idea of parents secretly training their kids in some pavlovian way like they're some genetic experiments
it really messes them up I feel, and it's not healthy
I doubt his parents did much.
@leslietownes Now I can understand if this is your starting definition for a power series. But my claim is that this is not Rudin's definition for power series.
04:19
Bangladeshi
Thanks, Koro. It looked wrong.
@TedShifrin I highly doubt they didn't at least keep giving new reading material. They'd have to keep giving them new material or they'd get bored
Hopefully it's motivation from within
I've never been there. But it's not too far from where I am.
@TedShifrin i suggest you DERPPPPPPPP DERP DERPPRPRPPRPRPRPPR
What on earth is a ball peen hammer
"For example, a vibrating airplane wing could be struck by
lightning, a mass on a spring could be given a sharp blow by a ball peen hammer, and
a ball (baseball, golf ball, tennis ball) could be sent soaring when struck violently by
some kind of club (baseball bat, golf club, tennis racket)."
Oh that's what that is. Shows what I know
04:48
@D.C.theIII Spivak seems to use an entirely different definition of power series than Rudin but I could be wrong
Well literally it defines a "power series centered at a" perhaps there is a definition of just "power series" elsewhere in Spivak
@Koro আপনাকে কঠোর পরিশ্রম করতে হবে |
It’s pronounced exactly the way it is written so for an Indian it should be easy.
Same for espanol.
French and English would be difficult
@SillyGoose Rudin's definition is the same thing
First page of Ch.8 of Rudin
But first page of chapter 8 is not Rudin's definition of power series
@SillyGoose Nothing different! A series of functions of the form $sum_{n=0}^{\infty}a_n (x-x_0) ^n $ is called a power series centered at x_0 .
04:57
Here I will post Rudin's definition again
@SillyGoose But one remark: You can't use f(x) =... As f(x) isn't defined in the exterior of the interval of convergence.
I have it right in front of me. Thst is for complex coefficients. But it is still the same exact definition
and complex variables. hence $z$
@D.C.theIII Complex power series. Rudin defined a general one.
But I don't really understand. so by definition 3.38 $f(z) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} c_n z^n$ converges when $|z| < R$ ($R$ is the radius of convergence)
Replace complex by reals, you get real power series. Disk of convergence as interval of convergence
@SillyGoose This is by definition of Radius of convergence.
05:02
I suggest you do the Sequence and Series chapters in Spivak first and then come back to this. It will elucidate things for you
well my problem is with the wording of definition 3.38. i can take as definition power series as it is defined on wikipedia and Spivak
but my problem is in understanding Rudin's definition 3.38
What’s your objection to 3.38?
If you understand what Spivak says in his text then you will not have any confusion in Rudin's definition.
because it is the same ideas and concepts
I do not have an objection, just that I think Rudin's definition 3.38 literally says something different than say wikipedia or Spivak
but it doesn't
05:05
but I don't understand why Rudin doesn't write $f(z) = [insert (19)]$ as he does on thet first page of chapter 8
Go back to Spivak and develop the mathematical maturity and you will see why
$\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n(z-z_0) ^n is a power series centered at z_0 . If z, z_0, (a_n) $ are complex numbers, we call complex power series and of z_0, z, (a_n) are real numbers then we call real power series.
Though we simply called power series and (real Or complex)should be clear from the context.
@SillyGoose f(z) =... is valid only inside the disk of convergence.
$f(z) =\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}a_n(z-z_0) ^n $ for all $z$ with $|z-z_0|<R$
For an example $f(z) =\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{z^n}{n}$ is not valid at $z=1$
@QuitMSE But rudin defines $f(x)$ to equal $\sum_{n = 0}^{\infty} c_n x^n$ in chapter 8 at least I think without regard to the disk of convergence
or he says "...we are interested in functions of the form..." [insert $f(x)$ from my above message]
05:20
@SillyGoose why do you think that?
I guess I do not see what text in the definition 3.38 that tells me $z$ should be treated like a variable. I read it like "choose a z, then the power series is given by (19)" like that
@SillyGoose it is of course assumed that domain f = disk of convergence or whatever you call it.
The examples provided for power series in the section are also like the series converges if $z = 1$ (as an example)
I read this as the series $\sum c_n 1^n$ converges as in our power series becomes $\sum c_n 1^n$ and it converges
@SillyGoose As I have told earlier, f(z) is valid only inside the disk of convergence, writing f(z) =... automatically implies z inside the disk of convergence.
which to me is different than saying we say that the power series parameterized by $z$ converges when $z$ is in the disk of convergence
like this above statement seems like a generalization of my last last message?
i mean if definition 3.38 is literally talking about a power series of a single complex variable ($z$) and if that is the unanimous opinion, then I can accept that. But I just want to make sure that I am understanding what everyone is saying. In particular, I would like to make sure that (19) is literally talking about a power series of a single complex variable ($z$), not that it implies what a power series of a single complex variable looks like.
05:39
Clarification needed for this wiki article : math.stackexchange.com/q/4654693/977780
Why is degree of f:$S^1\to S^1: z\mapsto z^k$ equal to k?
(k>0)
BTW I wouldn't consider this a - but I did not remove the tag. It seems that there are already some answer - and some useful comments from Dave L. Renfro.
If k=0, then f is a constant map and therefore the induced hom f* from Z to Z is the zero map. Hence deg f=0.
For k>0, I wish to use local degree so take 1 in S^1 (subspace of C) and then $f^{-1}(1)$ = kth roots of unity.
Say the roots are$x_1,…,x_k$. Take disjoint open sets each around x_i.
How do I conclude that local degree at x_i is 1?
 
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@robjohn At least I explain my downvotes unless someone else has already done so.
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A: Local degree of $z\mapsto z^n$

Paul FrostYou have to consider all $n$-th roots of unity $\zeta_k = e^{2k\pi i/n}$ with $k = 0,\dots,n-1$. $V = \{e^{it} \mid -1 < t < 1\}$ is an open neigborhood of $1$. Then $U_k = \{ e^{it} \mid (2k\pi - 1)/n < t < (2k\pi + 1)/n\}$ is an open neigborhood of $\zeta_k$ which is mapped by $f$ homeomorphica...

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12:16
Very basic question but confusing.
if $x<10$ (rather than $x\leq 10$), can we determine the maximum value of $x$?
@TheRealMasochist Doesn't have the max. As for any M<10 , we can find N such that M<N<10.
@QuitMSE OK. Thank you.
@SillyGoose I would suggest that you read Tao's post on the levels of rigour in mathematics. You are getting really caught up on a technicality that (1) doesn't seem like a problem at all, and (2) probably isn't actually a problem, anyway.
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13:42
@onepotatotwopotato I saw it. I didn't understand it.
:(
Like what's going on? Why is it happening? Nothing is clear from the answer there.
if we wish to apply existance theorem here
what would be the values of a, b, alpha,K
@PrateekMourya What is the statement of the "existence theorem"?
I'm sorry, but I am not going to try to read that image and parse your handwriting.
its understandable not that bad
13:46
what is k
o nevermind
find a k that has $|f(x,y)| \leq k$
Hint: a, b don't have to be unique.
okk
got it
Can I get some help in proving $$\mathcal{L}\left\{\delta(t-t_0)\right\} = e^{-st_0}$$
I don't understand why cellular homology is computationally easier.
@Obliv Shouldn't that be a really straight forward integral?
13:54
It seems to me that singular homology is computationally easier.
@XanderHenderson I'm cramming right now so I gotta jog my memory on how to rewrite it as unit step functions I think
@Obliv Why don't you start by writing out the integral.
I think that it takes lot of time in computing cellular homology so not computationally friendly. And another thing is that this works only for CW complexes (right?). But singular works for any space.
$$\int_0^{\infty}e^{-st}\delta(t-t_0)dt$$ wait yeah that's very easy
@Obliv Yes. I told you so.
Take a second to think before asking. :P
13:57
Obliv: Replace e^{-st} by any f(t) uniformly continuous on [0,infty] and then see.
Well we assume that $t_0 \in (0,\infty)$
@Obliv Doesn't matter.
Integration against $\delta(t-t_0)$ is just $f(t_0)$.
That is the definition of $\delta$.
because $\delta(0) = \infty$ and $\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\delta(t)dt = 1$
?
I should also add f(t) should be Integrable on [0,infty).
14:00
Because that is the definition of $\delta$.
Physicists like to pretend that $\delta$ is a normal function, and that $\delta(0) = \infty$, but this is not how mathematicians generally think about it.
I see
@Obliv stay close to t_0 while evaluating the integral.
So $\delta(t) \begin{cases} \infty , & t = 0 \\ 0, & t \ne 0\end{cases}$ isn't precise?
Really, it would be better to drop the integral notation entirely, and think about $\delta$ as a dual object (in the sense of linear algebra / functional analysis).
@Obliv no
14:02
Welp, Sal Khan can only get you so far I guess lol that's how he defined it
But he said outright it's not a function but it'll do
@Obliv Yeah, Khan is designed to teach you recipes without understanding. Actual mathematics requires a bit more work.
They may have also added some integral condition. But nonetheless, diract delta function is not a function.
There are a few ways to think about Dirac's $\delta$. If you want to think of it as a "function", the appropriate idea is probably to think of it as a limit of "nice" functions.
would it be better to rewrite the integral with the bottom and top limits approaching t_0
like left and right limits in calculus 1
So $$\int_0^{\infty}e^{-st}\delta(t-t_0)dt = \lim_{a\to t_0-} \int_a^{t_0}e^{-st}\delta(t-t_0)dt + \lim_{b\to t_0+} \int_{t_0}^{b}e^{-st}\delta(t-t_0)dt$$
and then just toss out the other integrals since they're 0
It's almost in the form $e^{-st}\ast \delta(t)$
which would allow use to rewrite it as $F(s)G(s) = \mathcal{L}\{e^{-st}\}\mathcal{L}\{\delta(t)\}$
but a convolution is from 0 to t in the integral limits
So, for example, define $\eta_1(t) = C \mathrm{e}^{-1/(1-|t|^2)}$ on the interval $(-1,1)$ (and zero elsewhere). Note that $\eta_1$ is smooth, and supported on that interval. Choose $C$ so that $\int \eta_1 = 1$.
14:11
why would it be $0$ elsewhere
For each $\varepsilon > 0$, define $\eta_{\varepsilon}(t) = \varepsilon \eta_1(\varepsilon t)$. Note that $\eta_{\varepsilon}$ is smooth, supported on $(-\varepsilon, \varepsilon)$, and integrates to $1$.
$Ce^{-1/(1-5000)}$ for example doesn't seem like 0
@Obliv Because that is how I want to define it.
This is a smooth bump function. I want it to have compact support.
oh so C is like another variable kinda
$C$ is just a normalization constant. I want the integral over $\mathbb{R}$ to be $1$.
14:13
Oh so its like a piecewise
Got it
Assuming that I have put the pieces together correctly (I'm not taking the time to be super careful here), $$\lim_{\varepsilon\to 0} \int_{\mathbb{R}} f(t) \eta_{\varepsilon}(t) \,\mathrm{d}t = f(0). $$
So we can define $\delta$ in terms of that limit.
@TedShifrin Professor, Are you talking about Soborno Isaac Bari? Afaik his case is just an example of well scripted internet-hoax.
Can you help me to solve this question?
What I'm wondering is, is the antiderivative of $\delta(t-t_0)$ 0 everywhere but 1 at $t_0$
The problem is that there is no function $\delta$ (e.g. no $L^1$ function, or smooth function with compact support, or whatever) which has the property that $$ \int f(t) \delta(t) \,\mathrm{d}t = f(0). $$
14:17
I'm not sure why you need compact support, but I suggest a therapeutic pillow.
ba dum tss
@Obliv You want compact support for a number of reasons, which have to do with more advanced topics in functional analysis / PDE than I am prepared to address here.
So does this property arise from the fact that $\eta$ or $\delta$'s antiderivatives are $1$ at their critical region? @Xander
defined as t=0 here I guess
In any event, you can kind of write $\delta(t) = \lim_{\varepsilon\to 0} \eta_{\varepsilon}(t)$. This isn't quite right, since this limit doesn't really make sense (it is zero everywhere except $0$, and at $0$ the limit is infinite), but this is, I think, the way physicists generally think about Dirac's $\delta$.
@Obliv You should compute these derivatives and see what you get.
So I'd have to define it in terms of unit step functions.. with $$\delta(t-t_0) = \begin{cases} 0, & t > t_0+a \\ \frac{1}{2a}, & t_0 - a \leq t \leq t_0 + a \\ 0, & t < t_0 - a\end{cases}$$ I think
14:24
That's what my book does tho
That seems like nonsense. You could define $\eta_a$ in this way, and then take a limit...
Reread your text.
They are not defining $\delta$ via the piecewise function you have given.
They are defining $\delta_a$ in this manner, and then defining $\delta$ as a limit of these $\delta_a$, in the same way that I defined it for $\eta_\varepsilon$.
was in the page above sorry
@Obliv Again, you are missing the subscript.
$\delta_a \ne \delta$.
OH okay so they set it up using $\delta_a$ but then use limits for when $a$ approaches 0
and use the lhopital rule
I defined $\delta$ to be, more or less, the limit of a bunch of smooth bump functions. Your book is defining it to be the limit of a bunch of step functions.
Note that in both cases, the functions being defined are (1) supported only on a small interval near zero, and (b) integrate to $1$.
14:27
Yeah it's an introductory text so less math
The version in terms of smooth functions is nice for being smooth, but a little trickier for mathematics.
But, in either case, the fundamental property of $\delta$ is that $$ \int f\delta = f(0).$$
If I did it the way the textbook does it I have to define three step functions
the $\delta_a, \mathscr{U}(t-(t_0-a)), \mathscr{U}(t-(t_0+a))$
altho the unit step ones are pretty simple. 0 everywhere except $t \geq (t_0-a)$, $t \geq (t_0+a)$
where they are 1
To compute the derivative of $\delta$, I like the following approach:
$$ \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(t)\delta'(t) \,\mathrm{d} t = \bigl[ f(t) \delta(t) \bigr|_{t=\infty}^{\infty} - \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f'(t)\delta(t)\,\mathrm{d}t = f'(0). $$
Note that the $f(t)\delta(t)$ is zero, since $\delta$ is "compactly supported" (i.e. if $|t|$ is large, $\delta(t) "=" 0$; really, the approximations are compactly supported and we want to be careful-ish about taking the limit).
ooh so the first term is just $f(0)$
No, the first term is zero.
14:32
Oh wait yeah those are two point evaluations not the integral
So $\delta'$ is the "function" which, when you integrate a function against it, give you the derivative of that function at zero.
Note that I am using integration by parts here, which means that $f$ needs to be at least $C^1$, and I am assuming that $\delta'$ "makes sense". I kind of don't like your book's approach, since their $\delta_a$s are not differentiable.
so something like $\mathcal{L}\{4\delta(t-2\pi)\}$ would just be $\frac{4e^{-2\pi}}{s}$?
Hence the application of L'Hospital seems a bit suspicious to me.
@Obliv Write down the integral...
$4\int_0^{\infty}e^{-st}\delta(t-2\pi)dt$
oh
$$ \int 4\delta(t-2\pi) \mathrm{e}^{-st} \,\mathrm{d}t = 4\mathrm{e}^{-2\pi s},$$ no?
14:36
right , forgot the s
Idk why I thought to take $\mathcal{L}\{4\}\mathcal{L}\{\delta(t-2\pi)\}$
that's only if $4\ast \delta(t-2\pi)$
Yeah, the Laplace transform "plays nice" with convolutions.
I'm taking the limit of \frac{1}{c} \int_a^b f'(x)cos(cx)dx as c goes to infinity. I know that both f' and cos are continuous so the integral exists. In this case can I treat the integral as just a constant and conclude that the limit is zero?
so in general for the second inverse translation theorem $\mathcal{L}^{-1}\{e^{-as}F(s)\} = f(t-a)\mathscr{U}(t-a)$ doesn't work for $a<0$
well yeah because u cant translate the transform if it's defined from 0^infinity
so shifting it left would be a no no
@ephe $$\lim_{c\to\infty}\frac{1}{c} \int_a^b f'(x)\cos(cx)dx$$
there ya go
U should enable mathjax from the chatroom info on the top right
Oh I had no idea mathjax was being used sorry and thanks. All this time I was like, "Wow everyone here can read latex so comfortably."
14:52
Lool maybe @leslietownes but not most of us
@Ephe Have you tried taking the integral?
@SoumikMukherjee That would explain why I can’t find relevant info.
$\lim_{c\to \infty}\frac{1}{c}\int_a^b f'(x)\cos(cx)dx = \frac{1}{c}f(x)\cos(cx)|_a^b + \frac{1}{c}\int_a^b f(x)\frac{sin(cx)}{c}dx$
@Obliv I actually started with $$\int_a^b f(x)\sin(cx)dx$$ and got the integral by using integration by parts. All I know for the question is that $f'$ is continuous so that's what I tried to get.
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No. If you don't like Ted's tone, that's fine. But engaging in exactly the kinds of actions you accuse him of engaging in is not okay.
Enough.
@Ephe I'm not sure what the answer is, since $\sin(cx)$ for $c\to\infty$ seems not well defined
Wait nvm
I think the key is to make $\sin(cx) = dv$ so you have $\frac{-1}{c}\cos(cx)f(x) + \frac{1}{c}\int f'(x)\cos(cx)$ I think that's what you did, which you can probably conclude it is 0
(add in the limits a to b)
@Obliv Thank you!
15:31
Hi
Welcome to mathematics for human flourishing :-)
15:44
Hi @XanderHenderson
Hi @TedShifrin
Semi direct product of two abelian groups (or even cyclic groups) need not abelian.
"Abelian iff the homorphism $\phi:K\to Aut(H) $ is trivial".Is this true?
One way is trivial.
As direct product of two abelian groups is abelian.
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