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yeah, shrink the cover and then use a PoU
I don't like that we have to use this finiteness result
Do you feel finiteness limiting?
Like a straitjacket, robjohn.
I should shrink the cover so that I have global sections? But how does that yield a finite sum?
So I start with a finite trivialising cover $U_\alpha$. On $U_\alpha$ we can find a frame $\sigma_i$ such that $f^*\sigma_i$ is a frame on $f^*E\vert_{f^{-1}(U_\alpha)}$. Around each point $U_\alpha$ we can find a global $\overline\sigma_i$ which locally equals $\sigma_i$. However, now I have an infinite cover.
00:16
you're missing the following result: if you have an open cover $U_i$, there's an open cover $V_i$ over the same index set s.t. $\overline{V_i}\subseteq U_i$
this holds in any, uh, $T4$-space, if I'm not mistaken
ah
I was indeed looking for something like that
cool, then I think I can finish the proof
@Thorgott do you have a reference for this result? maybe for the special case of smooth/topological manifolds?
I think you prove it in the course of establishing the existence of partitions of unity
oh!
let me have a look
it'll certainly be in one of Lee's books, perhaps in both
(the top and smooth manifold ones, I mean)
yea I was already looking, but my key words when searching for it weren't specific enough
I'll continue tomorrow, I'm off to bed. Thanks for the help so far!
01:12
@Gokuカカロット It is just as funny to imagine a user who, after raising such a flag, logs into Math SE to find that their account has been suspended.
Even funnier would be if the account simply weren't there any more.
@XanderHenderson No pain, no gain
I've lost count of how many times I've risked my accounts or even my own life just to "troll" someone
such edge
For $z \in \mathbb{C}$, define $T_{z}: \mathbb{C} \to \mathbb{C}$ by $T_{z}(u) = zu$. Characterize those $z$ for which $T_z$ is normal, self adjoint, or unitary.

For $T_z$ to be unitary means $\|T_z(u)\| = \|u\|$. Therefore $\|zu\| = \|u\|$. From which I work out:

$$\|zu\| = \langle zu,zu \rangle = z\overline{z}\langle u,u \rangle$$

Which would mean that $|z|^2\langle u,u \rangle = \langle u,u \rangle$ can only occur iff $|z| = 1$.

What I'm having trouble with is showing normal and self-adjointedness. I know for a linear operator to be normal means $TT^* = T^{\star}T$ . I have linear o
@shintuku I do it just so I can laugh
01:28
as an aside, I had to write T^{\star} to get the star to appear and I couldn't just use the * symbol by itself. Is that something new?
certainly outside of math mode, * sometimes gets trapped for emphasis. could be that happens in math mode, too.
yeah it seemed like that was happening
is your inner product linear in the first component or the second?
it was fidgety. some stars appeared some didn't
you got the unitaries right, by the way.
01:29
No specific inner produc defined
ok. what is the adjoint of T_z, then? you need a definition there.
you're writing <u,u> up above. what is <a,b> when a and b are not the same?
that's my question. there are two conventional answers, it doesn't really matter which one you pick, except for how you might write things out in ways that don't use < >
presumably the inner product on C (or perhaps C^n?) would be specified earlier in that text somewhere.
So I guess the standard inner product on C. i.e $\Sigma a_i \overline{b_i}$
i'm not trying to being deliberately obtuse or nitpicky here, but this is exactly the question raised by "seeing somebody somewhere do [blah]." they're implicitly using whatever the definition of the inner product actually is.
okay. so for any z, a, and b, <T_z a, b> = za conj(b) = a conj(conj(z) b) = <a, conj(z) b> = <a, T_{conj(z)} b>. using that definition of the inner product. i'm writing conj( ) because i don't want to overline or use tex or worry about * ruining my text.
so the adjoint of T_z is T_{conj(z)}.
if you were using stars, you could just pop the * from a superscript on the T and move it down to a superscript on the z.
01:36
No, $T^*$ works fine.
Ok let me write this out on paper to see it clearer
01:52
$T_zT_{\overline{z}}^*(u) = z\overline{z}u$, likewise $T_{\overline{z}}^*T_z = \overline{z}zu$. So then this would mean that this operator is normal iff $z \in \mathbb{R}$.
because $z\overline{z} = |z|$ which is a real number
you've got one too many bars or stars there. T_z star, or T_{z bar}, but not both the star and the bar.
note that "is T normal?" asks only if those operators are equal, not anything about what the operator is if they happen to be equal.
so while i agree that z z-bar is real for every z, that seems somewhat unrelated to the previous line. is $z \bar{z} u = \bar{z} z u$ for all $u$?
hmmmm...
I want to say yes, but you asking me this makes it feel like it is a trick question
02:13
no tricks here. just multiplication of complex numbers.
Then I say yes they are equal for all $u$
What are indices? Also, avoid $i$ ;)
Oh, it vanished.
this doesn't pertain to me does it?
You erased it.
dc: so T_z is normal no matter what z is.
02:17
no it can only be normal if $z \in \mathbb{R}$
why? you didn't prove that up above. you remarked that whatever z is, T_z T_z* is multiplication by a real number. so what?
T_i T_i^* = T_i^* T_i is the identity. it has to be, because you already told us that T_z was unitary if |z| = 1. so there's a normal T_z where z isn't real.
02:34
So if I'm understanding you correct, you're saying because I showed that $T_z$ was unitary then as a consequence I have already that $T_z$ is normal (which is a part of a theorem in the text showing the equivalent statements for something being unitary), now for this all to be true relies on $|z| = 1$ so $z$ can be complex or real just as long as $|z| = 1$ then the condition is satisfied.
Every hermitian, shew-hermitian, or unitary operator is always normal.
Aye. I agree with such
Such agrees with you.
I happened to show unitary first because I didn't know how to show normality first. WHat would I have done in the case where I hadn't shown it being unitary first but tried to show normality?
02:51
That’s what leslie was talking about directly above.
there was a calculation up above showing that for any $z$, the operators $T_z T_z^*$ and $T_z^* T_z$ are equal, and in fact equal to $T_{|z|^2}$.
so if you hadn't done the unitary part first, you'd then ask, ok, when is $T_{|z|^2}$ the identity. that's when you get a unitary.
got it.
Hi, I am trying to answer a problem. I define $f:=(\sin x)^{\sin x}$. I know that as function $f$ is well defined over $]0,\pi[$. I know that $f\to 1$ as $x\to 0^{+}$, but can I say that $f\to 1$ as $x\to 0^{-}$?
math eh?...bloody hell......
@A.P. Are all powers of a negative number defined?
03:02
Am I right in saying that $\pi(x)\ge \log(\log x)$ does not hold for $x=3$?
Since $(-1)^{1/2}$ is not defined in $R$, so the answer should be no, @TedShifrin
nvm
or $(-1/2)^{-1/2}$ as a better example, so $\lim_{x\to 0^{+}}f$ only make sense, I suppose. Why Wolfram give $\lim_{x\to 0}f=1$?
is there any reason?
How's the masters going @Koro ?
good so far @D.C.theIII :)
too much syllabus and too less time is the general scenario here
03:15
WHat do you mean too much syllabus? What are you specializing in?
Oh masters here has many subjects not just one.
like number theory, algebraic topology, functional analysis etc.
Oh I see....so it is a general masters in all of math then?
yeah, only maths.
So is the goal PhD after then?
how many classes you take in a semester?
About PhD, let's see. I am thinking of not doing it.
there are about 20 classes per week.
03:20
20 classes???
or lectures?
that's a lot
I mean lectures.
if you mean no. of subjects in a semester, it is 5.
so one hr lectures 5 days a week for 4-5 courses?
yes
damn......that is not much time to do study work
I have talked about this here before. Some just write on board what is already there in the book and we just write it down. I mean -what's the point.
03:23
Oh I wasn't here when you were venting about it. Do they at least expand on the examples?
some of them, not really.
That sux. So you don't even need to really go to lecture, but I guess you have to, to "show your face"
yeah, attendance.
One could just study from book without going to class.
I mean I don't see any point of attending classes here.
03:26
Just going to class and wasting an hr which could be used to do work
indeed
I guess the teaching is not living up to your expectations
and they should elaborate things in class. For example: for last one hour or more-I have been stuck at proving $\pi(x)\ge \log(\log x)$ (I don't understand one step in the proof given in the book.) but I remember that in class it was not even talked about.
which is funny because that what class is supposed to exist for.
exactly.
So it makes me think -why should I do Phd? I can study at my own.
03:30
Well....I'm sure that experience would be different, but I guess it depends on where and with whom. The PhDs in the chat would be able to expand on this...
anyways, it's a new experience and it's been good so far (except my expectations from the classes).
Oh that's good. it's just the in class experience
yeah. In other words, have you seen Strang's or Ted's videos?
You feel like you are learning something when you watch them. So it is worth watching them.
Well you know I use Ted's videos. Haven't seen STrang's
But attending classes here feels like waste of time. The one who has studied the subjects before don't really care. But the ones who are studying it for the first time feel like their time.
03:32
Ted's videos have made your expectations be high
not just Ted's, but many videos on MIT, NPTEL etc. and Ted's lectures of course.
class is supposed to teach, is the general idea.
I just don't see that happening here.
Well you're halfway done right? You will be done when?
next year.
1/4th done so far.
Alright then
yeah
03:56
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Q: Understanding the proof of $\pi(x)\ge \log(\log x), x\ge 2$

KoroHere $\pi(x)=$ number of primes which are less or equal to $x$. Let $p_n$ denote the $n$th prime. Then since any prime dividing $p_1...p_n+1$ is distinct from $p_1,...,p_n$; it follows that $p_{n+ I}\le p_1...p_n + 1$. By induction, $p_n\le 2^{2^n}$ for all $n\in \mathbb N$. It follows that $\pi(...

@A.P. Wolfram makes mistakes, so you need to be critical. Some people think the symbol $\lim_{x\to a}$ applies only to those $x$ (approaching $a$) in the domain of the function. But you should ask yourself how $a^x$ is defined in general and for what negative $x$ the quantity $x^x$ is defined.
I understand that, wolfram makes mistakes, for example when it calculates limits, but I'm a little more curious, since the problem seems to be very similar to wondering whether or not $\lim_{x\to 0}x^{x}$ there exists or not.
I know that the answer is yes, always that $x>0$.
And using an argument that I don't know if it is correct, one can say that $\lim_{z\to 0}z^{z}=1$.
I have read here some answers even proofs like here math.stackexchange.com/a/3835424/1027216
where they say this is true
the proof seems to make sense to me (at least in what little I understand of complex analysis).
But this still leaves me wondering: if complex numbers to non-integral complex powers are not well defined either?
They are typically multivalued. However, if use complex numbers to define $x^x$ for negative real $x$, it will be multivalued as well, but the limit will in fact be 1 regardless.
04:16
I suppose that wolfram in this case, it is considering $x$ as a complex number and then give as answer $1$ for that limit.
04:26
Yes, most likely. You would have to give it orders to restrict to reals.
04:37
Merci beaucoup Ted
:)
It is always good to learn.
I understand why $\pi(x)\ge \log(\log x)$ is true for $x>e^{e^3}$. But for $2\le x\le e^{e^3}$, how do I show the equality?
Using calculator $e^{e^3}=528491311.48549...$
and now finding $\pi(e^{e^3})$ becomes lengthy.
05:06
I finally understood it. For $2\le x\le e^{e^3}$, suppose on the contrary that there is some x such that $\pi(x)<\log\log x\implies \pi(x)<3\implies \pi(x)=1$ or $\pi(x)=2$
If $\pi(x)=1$ then $x\in [2,3)$. So $\log \log x\lt \log(\log 3)\le 1$ hence $\pi(x)\ge \log(\log x)$ which is not possible. So $\pi(x)=2$. It follows that $x\in [3,5)$, whence $\log (\log x)\le \log\log 5\le 2=\pi(x)$ which is also not possible. This is a contradiction.
So the inequality holds for 2<=x<=e^{e^3} as well.
05:22
@Koro: I was reading your messages related to the futility of attending classes. Do they allow you to ask questions in a lecture? I think it is difficult to ignore genuine questions (asked politely) irrespective of the nature of the lecturer.
This is especially true if number of students in class is small (and not like typical undergrad class).
@ParamanandSingh It is allowed but the problem is this. This is an example of the situation in class: Product topology was covered in like 15 mins, no example no nothing whatsoever. There are some people who have studied Topology before but then there are some who were meeting the subject the first time (like me). What question will you ask there?
Let $z=e^{-x+ie^{2x}}$, then $\lim\limits_{x\to\infty}z=0$. Define $z^z$ to be continuous in $x$. What is $\lim\limits_{x\to\infty}z^z$?
Attending class should have won my heart over, should have put the product topology in my head in such a way that I would think about it even when I am outside class doing something else. But the reality is I did not learn product topology in the class. I studied it myself and asked questions here as and when I got stuck.
but it seems that it was done in the class just to 'complete the syllabus' with the attitude that 'atleast the term product topology was mentioned in the class so the job is done'.
05:41
It’s super important in topology and analysis. What course is this?
The one I talke about above was Topology from the last semester.
A semester of point-set topology?
general topology
What does that mean if not point-set?
I think of point set topology as the usual topology on R.
05:44
No, not so.
Ohh, then yeah what you said.
and see the worst part is: no tutorials, no nothing, examples (only a few) with proof omitted for the class.
Did he cover through Urysohn lemma and Tietze extension?
he covered everything.
Well, product topology shows up plenty.
but anybody could speedrun things on board. What's the point? Project book on a screen and skip at 1.5x speed instead. Why bother writing on board?
@TedShifrin he was doing Tychonoff and then the class told 'product topology is not done yet'. He was shocked and then covered product topology to prove Tychonoff's.
haha
05:51
@Koro: which university is this?
Good morning everyone. Currently, I'm reading the Handbook of Matrices by H. Lutkepohl. The author refers to square matrices as quadratic. This is the first time I've seen this term in a linear algebra book I've read. In terms of quadratic forms x^TAx, the matrix A is implicitly assumed to be symmetric but not every square matrix is a symmetric one.
i have never heard the term quadratic matrix.
Horrid.
I concur.
Its pouring here again. Glad I made my rounds of Tilden earlier when it was drier (and infested witj hig school mountain bikers).
@ParamanandSingh ISI K
06:02
I thought this is common among mathematicians who study abstract linear algebra. I'm glad we are on the same page. Thank you.
@robjohn measles?
@copper.hat eh?
@robjohn I did not look closely enough, is that a calendar in the background of your icon?
@CroCo Hell no. Who is the author, and when/where?
@copper.hat yeah. I tried to think of something January first-ish
06:07
:-)
@TedShifrin Handbook of Matrices by Helmut Lütkepohl, Germany 1996.
https://www.wiley.com/en-us/Handbook+of+Matrices-p-9780471970156
probably comes from the term 'quadratische Matrix'
which means square matrix in german
@shintuku hah?
i prefer squareische matrix
sometimes the folks who translate and or copy edit math texts do not know math, and it shows
06:12
that is very trueische
@leslietownes the term is bolded.
I guess may be it is common in Germany.
yes, common to put definitions in boldface, nothing goofy about that
my point was that a translator who knew english math terminology would not have translated it that way, not that it isn't a fine phrase in some other language
one time i was helping someone edit a mathematical 'appendix' in an economics article, and the journal they sent it to for some reason had a professional but non math educated copy editor go through it and they ruined all of the prose
so we had to send it back and say "do not make any of those changes to the appendix, otherwise OK thanks"
I believe it is easier to check a bolded term. If it's an aberrant term, why does the author accept it?
seems it was published in english, in germany
no distinction between 'quadratic' used in 'quadratic equation' and 'square matrix' in german
croco: my guess is the author's mathematical english was such that they were in no position to know it sounded unusual?
"false friends" get us all
06:22
We need to ask @Thor.
There are still a few chapters to go in this book. The least I can do is remain vigilant.
I had copy editor issues with two of my books and had to put my foot down.
ted: "if i call it the war of northern aggression, then that's what it is." bewildered mathematical copy editor: ".... ok ted"
@Koro this is a very reputed institution of India. But it appears reality is different from perception.
06:47
it is all very $-{1 \over 12}$ische.
Is it possible to prove that triangles don't have three sides?
yes start from a contradiction
Assume a triangle has 3 sides
what is a side?
@Ajay it boils down to the definition. How do you define a triangle?
07:25
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Q: Proving that $\pi(x)\ge \frac{\ln x}{2\log 2}$.

KoroI am trying to prove the following: $\pi(x)\ge \frac{\ln x}{2\log 2}, x\ge 1$. I know that $\pi(x)\ge \ln\ln x$ for all $x\ge 2$. So take $x\ge 2$. Suppose on the contrary that there is some $x\in \{x:x\ge 2\}$ such that $\pi(x)\lt \frac{\ln x}{2\ln 2}$. That is, $x\gt e^{2(\ln 2)\pi(x)}=e^{(\ln ...

Can anyone please take a look at it?
The book has given a very different proof than this. I am trying to understand that but meanwhile I also tried to prove it the way I did above.
I use the result that: $\pi(x)\ge \ln (\ln x), x\ge 2$.
update: this proof does not work. There was an error in it.
 
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09:09
I just need another pair of eyes to see this. What Am I overlooking in looking at this paper? They have equation (2), then below they says put C=0, and they show the result. But this does not match at all equation (2) when C=0. They did this in other places in the paper. I will put screen shot also link if someone wants to check more. No need to know anything about what the paper is taking about. This is just algebra
Should not the result of (2) when C=0 be 1/(A x' + B) ? At first I thought it was a typo, but in other places they do something similar.
Here is a direct link to the paper in PDF the above page is page 3.
09:27
I will share another very confusing thing in this paper. On page 3 above they put the form as you see in (2). But on page 6, talking about the same thing, they, for some reason, change the letters used. Why would authors do this? Here is screen shot
This is so confusing. using different letters for same thing in different parts of the paper.
It looks to me like one author wrote one section , and another author wrote another sections, but they never agreed first what letters to use for the formula.
09:50
@shintuku yeah that's right
I know that $\pi(n) \ge \frac{\ln n} {2\ln 2} $.
How do I replace n by any x>1?
Because apparently this inequality is true even when x is not an integer.
Hello! There is something I'm wondering. In the context of matrix Lie groups, is there a specific reason the exponential map $\exp:\mathfrak{g}\rightarrow G$ is used? Something like $A(t)=I+tX$ would be a curve such that $A'(0)=X$ as it happens for $\exp(tX)$. I understand that the curve I proposed is $G$-valued but I mean: is there some kind of uniqueness theorem that states the exponential map is the only possible map?
10:17
$\exp(tX)$ is a homomorphism in $t$, your $A$ is not
in fact, $t\mapsto\exp(tX)$ is the unique "one-parameter subgroup", meaning a Lie group homomorphism $\mathbb{R}\rightarrow G$, whose derivative at $0$ is $X$
Oh, it's that theorem that states that any one-parameter subgroup in $\mathrm{GL}(n,\mathbb{C})$ can be expressed as $e^{tX}$. So that's why the exponential mapping, because that's the only way a curve of matrices can also be a one-parameter subgroup
I guess I got confused about something dummy, thanks for helping
 
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11:47
Poisson kernel resembles the gaussian function.
just noticed that starred message by Xander
perfect cut-off lmao
12:09
oh lol, I didn't realise it was a cut-off when I saw it yesterday
btw, @Thorgott, I think I got the argument now
about the pullback sections
Let $\sigma\in\Gamma(E)$ and let $U_\alpha$ be a finite trivialising cover for $E$. As already remarked, we have a finite sum $\sigma\vert_{U_\alpha}=\sum_i f_i f^*\sigma_i$ with $f_i\in C^\infty(f^{-1}(U_\alpha))$, $\sigma_i\in\Gamma(E\vert_{U_\alpha})$.
We know that there exists an open cover $V_\alpha$ of $M$ such that $\overline{V_\alpha}\subset U_\alpha$. By the extension lemma for vector bundles we can extend $\sigma_i\vert_{\overline{V_\alpha}}$ to a global section $\tilde{\sigma_i}\in\Gamma(E)$. We now choose a partition of unity $\psi_\alpha$ subordinate to the cover $f^{-1}(V_\alpha)$ of $N$. Then we have a finite sum $\sigma=\sum_{\alpha}\psi_\alpha\sigma$.
Note that $\psi_\alpha\sigma=\sum_i\psi_\alpha f_i f^*\sigma_i$. We can extend $f_i\vert_{\text{supp}(\psi_\alpha)}$ to $\tilde{f_i}\in C^\infty(N)$. Then $\psi_\alpha\sigma=\sum_i \psi_\alpha\cdot\tilde{f_i}f^*\tilde\sigma_i$.
o i see a typo, I should say $\sigma\vert_{f^{-1}(U_\alpha)}=\sum f_i f^*\sigma_i$
12:38
So far only 22 primes of the form $p*+1$, where $p*=\Pi_{q \text{ prime} \le p} q$ have been found!!😮😮
yeah, I think this works
I think you can make it work slightly shorter by making the extensions implicit: you can first choose a pou $(\varphi_{\alpha})$ subordinate to $(U_{\alpha})$, then $(\varphi_{\alpha}\circ f)\sigma=\sum_i(\varphi_{\alpha}\circ f)f_if^{\ast}(\varphi_{\alpha}\sigma_i)$, $(\varphi_{\alpha}\circ f)f_i$ is a smooth function on all of $N$ and $\varphi_{\alpha}\sigma_i$ is a section of $E$ on all of $M$
nvm, that doesn't work. ignore the second message.
12:54
because of the double $\phi_\alpha$ on the RHS, right?
yeah, the formula is off
I was trying to make a point along the lines of the choice of such $V_{\alpha}$ and the extensions being automatic once a pou has been chosen
but I think the point is that we actually have to shrink twice in the proof, so that isn't possible
you can't extend and glue in the same step
I guess part of the reason also why it has to happen twice is because we want to extend $\sigma_i$, but it has to work with $f^*\sigma_i$
 
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16:06
The series $\sum \frac{x^k}{k!}$ converges even if $x<0$, or? This makes me second guess.
@schn If $x < 0$, then you can apply the alternating series test, n'est-ce pas?
Or, alternatively, are you familiar with the notion of "absolute convergence"?
Yes, however, the alternating series test yields convergence!
@schn So what is the problem?
If I have the ability to flag my own posts, why don't I have the ability to kick myself out of my own room?
@Gokuカカロット Because.
16:17
Its not fair
I should be able to kick anyone who misbehaves, including myself
I will note that there are legitimate reasons that one might want to flag one's own post. For example, if someone repeatedly vandalizes a post you have written, or if you would like to suggest that the post be marked community wiki, or if you would like the post migrated, etc.
I cannot think of any real reason why anyone would ever want to kick themselves from a room.
That being said, you can quite easily kick yourself from a room:
@XanderHenderson the problem is, in my textbook, the author uses the ratio test to determine the convergence of the series and then claims it is convergent for all positive $x$, which I find confusing
see the above extract
@schn I still don't understand the confusion... your text author has shown that the series converges for all positive $x$. They have not said a single thing about negative $x$.
They have not said that the series diverges for negative $x$, nor have they said that it converges. They have remained silent on the issue.
True
16:22
@XanderHenderson if a user chooses to vandalize a post, can I not just "rollback" the edit as well?
@Gokuカカロット Sure. And then they vandalize it again.
At some point, you probably want a moderator to lock the post, or to suspend the user who is vandalizing the post. How do you call it to moderator attention if you can't flag your own post?
In any event, I need to go teach a class in a hot second, so I'm outie.
@XanderHenderson but hasn't the author shown convergence for all $x$ rather than just positive $x$?
@XanderHenderson I see. Rollbacks are probably more suited to edits you don't necessarily like as opposed to blatant vandalism
16:39
@schn whether it converges for all real $x$ or not (which it does), it is not apparent from that image exactly how they stated the ratio test, and how they possibly extend it to non-negative terms. Stating that it converges for positive $x$ does not mean that it doesn’t converge elsewhere.
@robjohn Ok, thanks for the reply. I reviewed how they stated the ratio test and in fact they only stated it for positive terms, so that explains it.
7 hours ago, by Koro
I know that $\pi(n) \ge \frac{\ln n} {2\ln 2} $.
any ideas for this one?
@Koro since $\log(n)$ is asymptotically much smaller than $\frac{n}{\log(n)}$, what you state is true. However, you seem to be asked this question with some early set of results (getting a weaker result with fewer tools) to which we are not privy.
@robjohn on a related note, in the image posted, they claim that the terms must tend to zero. Why is that?
@robjohn Hi :)
I know it is true for $n$ but just want a confirmation if it is true for any x>1 instead of n
16:55
@schn I can't tell whether they are talking about $\frac{x}{n+1}$ or the $a_n$ are tending to $0$.
I don't know how to prove it for any x>1 in case it is true.
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Q: $\pi(x)\geqslant\frac{\log x}{2\log2}$ for all $x\geqslant2.$

CIJLet $\pi$ be the prime counting function. Then $\pi(x)\geqslant\log x/(2\log2)$ for all $x\geqslant2.$ Maybe I am missing something pretty evident, but, so far, I have proved that $\pi(x)\geqslant\log{\lfloor x\rfloor}/(2\log2)$ using a method Paul Erdős used to prove that there are infinit...

There is a discussion about this in the comment section under the answer to the linked question.
But I don't still get how to get x there instead of n.
Here is another discussion on this in Number theory room:
in Number theory, 7 hours ago, by Koro
We can even get a tighter inequality : $N(x) \le 2^j \sqrt{[x]} $. With this, it follows that $[x] \le 2^j \sqrt{[x]} $. The result follows.
17:10
Is this a valid proof? What would you need to add?
Theorem: Let $x_0$ be a zero of $f'$ of even degree. Then, $f$ has a saddle point at $x_0$

Proof: If $x_0$ is a zero of even degree of $f'$, then $f'(x_0 + \epsilon)$ and $f'(x_0 - \epsilon)$ for some small $\epsilon > 0$ are of the same sign. Since $f'(x_0) = 0$, this is the definition of a saddle point. Thus, $f$ has a saddle point at $x_0$.
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Q: Show that $2n\choose n$ divisible by primes $p,$ such that $n<p<2n$?

KoroSuppose on the contrary that $2n \choose n$ is not divisible by $p\in (n,2n)$. There exis $k$ and $0\ne r\lt p$ such that $(2n)\cdots (n+1)=kp \,n!+r \, n!$. The second term on RHS is not divisible by $p$ as $p>n$. I'm not sure how to conclude from here that $r=0$. Any hints on this are much appr...

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@ILikeMathematics That’s not my definition of a saddle point.
18:48
I don't know what I would consider a saddle point of a function on $\mathbb{R}^1$.
18:59
I'm surmising it is a point $x_0$ so that every small neighborhood contains points $x$ with $f(x)>f(x_0)$ and other points $x$ so that $f(x)<f(x_0)$. Do we mention the tangent line? I don't.
@TedShifrin I changed the proof, I first prove that at $x_0$, there is an inflection point, and since $f'(x_0) = 0$, that inflection point is a saddle point
That's a valid way to define saddle points, right?
@robjohn A former student of mine is newly teaching AP calculus and sent me a handout he was given to use in his class. There are questions that contain graphs of derivatives, second derivatives, etc., and ask various questions. They say "Assume that there is no hidden behavior." Any idea what this means?
@ILike Don't ask me. What does your textbook give as a definition?
@TedShifrin It's a high school textbook, they do it pretty much intuitively
I only define saddle points, traditionally, for multivariable functions. I gave my definition above.
They don't give a formal definition
19:01
No, somewhere they have to give a definition. Go find it.
What is their definition of inflection point, while we're at it?
@TedShifrin "With the derivative, we can find possible extremas. In figure 2, you can see that when we have an extrema, the derivative is zero. In figure 3, you can see that $f'(x) = 0$ is not a sufficient condition though. We call these points saddle points."
@TedShifrin I'd guess that that means the graphs embody the whole picture, so to speak. That is, you don't need to worry if the graph is $x^4$ when it looks like $x^2$.
Ah @robjohn. My guess was that if it looked continuous/differentiable, then it is. And that behavior we see as we go to the ends of the interval pictures persist beyond.
Could be.
I just gave my best guess.
@ILike First demerit for the book. "extrema" is plural. You can't have "an extrema." So their definition of a saddle point is a critical point (derivative vanishes) which is not a local extreme point.
Me too, @robjohn. I think yours is good, too.
@ILike Make sure you also understand that an inflection points is NOT defined by $f''(x_0)=0$.
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I would say an inflection point is where $f''$ changes sign.
At any rate, @ILike, it looks to me that you have to argue pretty much what I said. Why is the point not a local maximum or a local minimum? Why does being an inflection point tell you that?
@TedShifrin Yeah, they are extremas of $f'$, $f''(x_0)$ must be $0$ and $f'''(x_0) \neq 0$, $f''$ must change signs at $x_0$
@robjohn I disagree. You can have an inflection point where the function isn't even differentiable, let alone twice differentiable. But if $f''$ exists, it must be $0$.
The function $f(x)=\begin{cases} x^2, & x\ge 0\\ -x^2, & x<0\end{cases}$ has an inflection point at $0$, @ILike. I can even give you one that isn't differentiable. Why is $0$ an inflection point?
Okay, I was actually going to say convex up to convex down, or vice versa, but I thought $f''$ existed.
Well, who knows with ILike's textbook.
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@TedShifrin $f''$ changes sign.
@robjohn What about $f(x) = \begin{cases} x^2+1, & x\ge 0 \\ -x^2, & x<0\end{cases}$?
I don't insist on being pedantic, but I don't like textbooks that are sloppy or inaccurate.
Ah, speaking of sloppy and inaccurate — here's leslie.
@TedShifrin Still it changes sign, even though its not continuous at the point, but I'm not sure I would call that an inflection point. I'm not sure how to classify some of the non-differential points. I don't know if I've talked about inflection points of non-differentiable functions.
@TedShifrin Also that if $f(1)$ looks like $4$ then it actually is $4$ and not $4\pi^3/31$
Well, not that one does this is all in a standad Calc I class, but I did it teaching out of Spivak. One defines convexity in terms of the function relative to the chord. One then proves that for a differentiable function, this is equivalent to increasing derivative. Although Spivak disagrees with me, I define an inflection point to be a point of continuity where the concavity changes.
@Astyx Bah.
@TedShifrin How does Spivak define an inflection point?!
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I just rechecked. He says that the tangent line crosses the graph there. So he assumes the function is differentiable at the point; I do not.
@TedShifrin Ah. Interesting. I have always used your definition.
It seems to be true that if a point $P(x, f(x))$ is a point of inflection and $f'(x) = 0$, then that point is a saddle point (see this answer), but not in the other direction
This week I told my students that the critical points of $f(x,y) = x^3$ were not saddle points because a saddle point is a point that looks like a maximum in some direction and a minimum in another
Is there a way to "get" another user to look at a problem, on Math.SE? They don't use chat so I don't think I can ping them
I never use the terminology saddle point in single-variable calculus.
@ILike Right. Nothing about a saddle point controls convexity/concavity.
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Thanks
@Astyx How do you define a saddle point? I've always understood a saddle point to be a point where the derivative vanishes in all directions, but the point is not an extremum. So $(0,0)$, for example, is a saddle point of $f(x,y) = x^3$ (at least, per the definition I know).
That's not a saddle I'd like to sit on
But I define it precisely the way I stated above. $x$ is a saddle point iff there is $v_1, v_2 \in \mathbb R^n$ (or whatever vector space your function is defined on) such that $t\mapsto f(x+tv_1)$ has a maximum at $t=0$ and $t\mapsto f(x+tv_2)$ has a minimum at $t=0$
Well, $x$ is assumed to be a critical point as well of course
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@Astyx then Xander's $f(x,y)=x^3$ would not be a saddle point.
Indeed
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