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00:00
As a small hint, let me remind you that $a$ is supposed to be in the open ball.
I was drawing some diagrams and I don't know how pertinent it is, but it appears that all the points that could satisfy the condition $\nabla f(x) \cdot x > 0$ have to be within a ball of $1/4$ from the origin. Remembering that our largest open ball has radius of $5/4.$
00:17
disregard above
00:36
My vague recollection is that you were given that condition precisely on the unit sphere.
I guess I made a mistake in interpreting it beyond that. So for future, a norm is expressed in the form $\|x\| = blah$ should I always take it as the point $x$ in reference to the origin?
Of course. This has been the case since page 1.
I have a wild imagination that always tends to veer off the road. Or in this case the structure in place.
My fear is that you will keep crashing into posts with your sloppy steering :D
01:06
Is there a slick way to prove that multiplication and division of real numbers are continuous by using open sets? It seems annoyingly difficult and I'm on the verge of just using the sequential definition for functions between metric spaces.
You need usual triangle inequality games. Abstract crap won’t do it. I don’t see any advantage of sequences.
@robjohn I don't want to see the solution yet.
01:22
daughter is telling her mother that she is a 'bad mom' for writing the cat's name on her magnadoodle. she insists that it isn't how her name is written, and apparently this reflects poorly on her abilities as a mother
novice: what ted said
Magnadoodle? Huh?
it's like an etch-a-sketch except you have a stylus instead of the wheels.
So, to clarify, the cat has a magnadoodle?
haha, there are three 'she's in that sentence. i am nothing if not a master of clarity.
And more “her”s.
01:25
Are we suppose to apply Cauchy Schwartz?
wife was helping daughter write, or so she [wife] thought. it turns out that she [wife] was not making the letters to her [daughter's] liking.
dc3rd: i don't know the question or context, but the answer is yes.
No. If that was to me.
Good thing lawyers are illiterate @leslie
yeah, you can mostly put anything in the middle of a brief. "blah blah blah 15 page limit. blah blah blah billing by the hour. blah blah. god, i'm tired. CONCLUSION for the foregoing reasons, defendant's motion should be denied. Many thanks, leslie."
@dc3rd Your idea to apply the max value theorem on the closed ball is on the money.
So the problem is finding that closed ball......
01:27
No, you have it.
Just think, thereupon.
Well the one piece of everything I had that I haven't used is the idea of $\nabla f(x) \cdot x > 0$. The only ideas that come to me is that the gradient points in the steepest direction and in this case the gradient is not orthogonal to any of those points $x$ on the perimeter of my circle
True. Think important concept: What’s the interpretation of gradient dot vector?
Thanks. I guess I meant that if you already knew that the limit of the product is the product of the limits (for sequences), then observing that fact more or less proves continuity of multiplication. (Unless I've overlooked something - I've forgotten a significant proportion of my meager analysis knowledge)
Lol....I actually have been asking myself that question also the question of "what does a gradient of zero mean?".
So the overall idea of a dot product is relating two vectors by some scalar. In this case the gradient related to the vector that it is applied to....
also gradient dot vector is directional derivative in direction $v$
novice: yes. some of one variable analysis is conceptually simplified by promoting multivariable functions to a central role from the beginning (so one can talk about e.g. continuity of multiplication and addition). but the proofs do not change very much.
01:36
@dc3rd So what does this yell at you here?
Unimportant question: any opinions on the Bochner-Lebesgue (or just Bochner) integral? I think Lang wrote something about how it's better because it avoids "abusive use of ordering" or something like that. (Yes, I know he wasn't an analyst)
people who spend their time on the 'best' integrals are, as a rule, not analysts.
it is fine.
@novice If you have proofs with sequences (using triangle inequality games), then that’s it.
novice it helps to have something that generalizes to spaces that are not ordered. there are a number of ways to do it. they are all fine.
in this case the directional derivative of the vector $x$ in the direction of $x$
01:38
ugh, i even used one of them in my dissertation.
Who needs ordered?
@dc3rd huh?
But I don’t know how to multiply vectors ….
I can multiply pairs, but not triples
@leslietownes I guess I'm just wondering if I (as someone who finds analysis unnatural) might find the Bochner integral more intuitive. I guess there's only one way to find out...
in my dissertation the domain of a function was a semigroup and the codomain was a banach space. sups and infs didn't work there.
novice: possibly but i would guess not. you might look into the henstock-kurzweil integral. someone wrote a calc book that uses it. it's fairly intuitive, maybe more intuitive than the riemann integral if you have never seen the riemann integral before.
I don’t even know the Bochner integral. I know him for other thimgs.
01:40
he was prolific.
And smart.
yes, i would swap brains with him in a minute.
Not Gauss, but …
yet another example of america gaining from germany being moronic in the 1930s.
Who’s going to gain from the rampant decline of the US into dictatorship?
01:43
wow, he did differential geometry too? i didn't even know this.
ted: maybe canada?
Yup.
I think I met him in my youth.
my wife was on the short list for an academic position in scandinavia. we thought about it, even though my salary is like 5x hers and my law license is useless there.
Well, you might need to adapt.
i can teach the bochner integral.
Ten cents.
01:45
lester dubins used to pal around with bochner for some reason. i heard stories about him.
my advisor once showed me a book signed by norbert wiener. he told me this story of how he got it signed, and was so excited. he lit up. it was cool to see someone i regarded as a hero have heroes.
he lost most of his stuff in the berkeley hills fire but somehow he thought long enough to take that signed book with him.
Wow, the fire got his house?
yeah. he lost nearly everything and thought about quitting math. his friends replenished his library.
I remember mud slides when I was a kid.
I had most of my prized books in my office as a prof.
i remember it was really, really hot that day. my mom was working at alta bates that evening. they prepared for people who never came. to her it felt like the fire either killed people or they got out, with nothing in the middle.
When was that?
01:51
october 1991.
I remember being in GA and worrying about old family friends who lived on the Panoramic hill.
i remember being worried about my mom. i didn't understand the local topography or where alta bates was.
She commuted from near Napa?
yes. she worked for a registry that would send her all over.
Long drive after tough days!
01:54
yeah. she didn't have to do rush hour traffic but in retrospect it was horrible.
she ended up being banned from alta bates because a doctor screwed up and she caught the mistake and was stupid enough to say something about it. shortened one commute, anyway.
Good for her!
the patient somehow stupidly came first. what priorities she had.
Damn male doctor.
yeah it was very much a case of male infallibility syndrome.
i'm waiting for covid to calm down so i can fly her in and have her temperament rub off on my daughter. i'm worried that my daughter isn't assertive enough.
And look at today’s senate and SCOTUS. Makes me violently ill.
@leslietownes smacks
01:57
my mom's sister did a whole lot of activism from the 70s through the 90s and thankfully has dementia now so none of any of this is making it to her consciousness.
It is riling up, again.
"thankfully has dementia" is not a good omen
Wow, she’s probably not much older than I.
well, she'd see her life's work somewhat shat on, so yeah, dementia is a gift in this case.
Maybe I’ll be demented soon.
01:59
ted: about 80. dementia runs in that side of the family. my grandmother was pretty out of it from her 60s. same with both of my mom's sisters but thankfully not my mom.
my mom's other sister died of covid, but was unaware of what covid was.
Yikes … well, it’s on both sides of my family. shrug
if you begin to lose it, this chat will let you know.
What chat?
my dad's side of the family hasn't had much dementia show up, i think, but my maternal grandmother went through it
good question. what happened to this chat?
02:02
Time to dinner cook. Bis später.
i didn't experience much of it firsthand, but last time i saw her she wasn't really able to hold on to the fact that i'd graduated college
(she passed a few years ago now)
semi: one thing i think about a lot because i'm left handed and goof up on factors of -1 and chirality. when my grandmother lost her mind, she could still drive her car and visit familiar locations, but if you put her in the passenger seat, she couldn't even put a seatbelt on.
sidedness is somehow baked into us as human beings.
$a^x-a$ is non-positive for x in [0,1]. $a^x$ is continuous at 1 so given **any** $\epsilon>0$, there is a d in (0,1) such that $|a^x-a|<\epsilon$ for all x in [d,1]. $\int_0^1 a^x x^a =\int_0^d (a^x-a) x^a+\int_d^1 (a^x-a) x^a+ \int_0^1 ax^a$
The first integral say $I_1\ge \int_0^d d^a (a^x-a)\ge\int_0^d d^a -\int_0^d ad^a\to 0$ as $a\to \infty$.
no, $|\int_0^1 a^x x^a -ax^a|\le \int_0^d d^a (a-a^x)+\int_d^1 |a^x-a|x^a\le \int_0^d d^a (a-a^x)+\epsilon \int_d^1 x^a$
$\int_0^d d^a(a-a^x)\le \int_0^d d^a a-d^ad\to 0$ as $a\to \infty$.
So $\lim_{a\to \infty}\int_0^1 a^x x^a- ax^a=0$
By limit rules, $\int_0^1 a^x x^a=1$ as $\lim_{a\to \infty} a\int_0^1x^a=1$
@CalvinKhor et @robjohn
I think I got it now.
third line from top is not required.
Result used in 5th line: a version of $\lim_n nt^n\to 0$ if t is in (0,1)
02:37
I think I got the idea @TedShifrin , but my explanation as of now isn't very mathy: So given $\nabla f(x) \cdot x > 0$ is always positive at these points on the perimeter of the ball, it would mean that the function has to have a point where all these positive slopes began. Looking at the closed ball as discussed before that's whee I would apply the max value theorem. .....if the explanation doesn't make sense, in my mind I'm using the picture of a paraboloid to describe the above.
03:13
my daughter's learned how to put the cat's collar on. why did the cat let her do this.
cat's a masochist
i honestly think it's the cat's high level way of messing with us. letting the daughter do these things is her way of messing with us.
it's a mind game. i need to figure out what my next move is.
So, @dc3rd, what point are you looking for?
Well given all the directional derivatives are positive the point I'm looking for is the minimum.
Which exists on the set I described. And that point will also be a critical point.
So the point is that it must be an interior pt.
03:28
too many points. this is a bit like my 'she'/'her' thing from earlier
hmm ah yes.....and that's why it will be in the "open ball"
I need to get exponentially stronger at making the links between each indidivual part of my questions. Need to get better at it quick fast cause I will never be ready for the courses I wanted to take in the fall....
"meanderings of the mind of dc3"
Finally finished my essay
I am free
except that I still need to pack and move out
@AkivaWeinberger Until August.....unless you're doing summer school
I am free from writing credit classes, at least
renting an apartment year round was one of the things that made college so much easier. i realize this is not an option in so many places.
03:35
This class was a lot of fun, but man am I bad at essays
you think.....unitl the time comes to writing papers on your research, then "presentation" becomes a thing
essays? on what subject?
This was on Japanese composer Akira Ifukube
@leslietownes why not keep the same apartment?
whose music I grew to adore over the past two weeks
03:36
koro in some places rents go up so quickly people have to move in and out of various situations. i had the 'good fortune' of doing a good portion of college/grad school in an economic slump.
@dc3rd I'll be able to write reasonably well about math, I think
The worry would be about going too fast, possibly
@dc3rd Out of curiosity, where does your username come from?
@Koro The class was titled Music in Japan, and we were fairly free on choice of topic
My previous two papers for that class were on 2016 pop song "Silent Majority" and 1946 pop song "Apple Song (Ringo no Uta)", respectively
just a recycled user name from other internet forums, truthfully speaking I should've not used it...but I wasn't thinking MSE would be one of the main parts of my life........I wonder if I could change it?
Now I got to write about 1954 smash hit song "[Godzilla screech]"
I used to be columbus8myhw on here
you were able to change it?
03:43
hmm I might have to do this..... I don't know if I'd be going full gov't with my name, but something not attached to my deviant ways may be better.....
I also should change my name now.
literally under "edit profile"...........smh
Now you can change your name to the more respectable D. C. III
Sir D C the Third
Or Hokage of the fire village
:D
that actually might just work believe it or not..... Lol........do you accept royalties in Lesliecoin?
I like it.....
03:47
You might be Streisand-effect'ing yourself here
yea, let me stop......Lol
(I just looked up that effect.)
Never heard of it before!
You know, you can ask Google Maps to blur out the image of your house
(there's a form you can fill out, it's apparently a very easy process)
but then Google really knows who lives there
03:51
but the result is that there's now just a massive blurred-out wall in front of your house on Google Street View, so everyone will know where you live
'cause you're the house with the blur on it
(I wonder how they prevent people from blurring someone else's house?)
google map doesn't work in the desired way sometimes. I was looking for a restaurants and I walked through several streets and reached finally the back of the restaurant.
you know Ted looking at the question it reminds me of one from Spivak, but clearly for the one dimensional case that I had worked on before.....
@AkivaWeinberger I never tried that. But how do they that I am blurring my own house?
Dunno
At one point Google Maps led me on a long trek to a bank, only to learn that the bank has not been in that building in years
(also, one of the paths that it wanted me to take no longer existed)
Pro-tip: try not to lose your credit card in an unfamiliar city
now a days, if I add some xyz location in google maps, it won't immediately be visible to the world.
03:56
(the failed trip to the bank was an attempt to replace it)
I think Germany has no Google Street View
I think that if more people add that location as xyz location, only then it will show to the world.
@AkivaWeinberger Horrid syntax.
It's to prevent you adding a fake marker that says "Dave's Pizza" on top of the real one with a fake phone number
23 mins ago, by Akiva Weinberger
This class was a lot of fun, but man am I bad at essays
you can barely see my house on google maps. whoever drove the car that day couldn't be bothered to make it to the end of the street.
(Nah my essay syntax is fine, I just edited the start of the comment without fixing the end)
03:59
attorneys have to tell their clients about the streisand effect all the time.
Earlier someone told me the sentence "My high school banned The Kite Runner", but I heard "My high school band The Kite Runner" and was very confused at the apparent lack of verb
English is torture.
haha
i was in a band briefly. we were not called the kite runner. we never had a name, which is a prerequisite for having a band.
Leslie and the Towns
we folded when our lead guitarist and singer/songwriter had his equipment taken away because his mom thought he was spending too much money on equipment. she also controlled our rehearsal space.
04:06
Damn
I was never in a band, though I have been in a cappella groups, which are perhaps more stable
she was right in the end. i don't think my future was playing bass in a band that mostly did oasis covers.
*hums "All About That Bass" imitating a plucked upright bass*
dm dm dm dm dm
(I assume you mean bass guitar)
yes. electric bass guitar.
Did I ever share some of my a cappella group's music?
This was recorded before I was a member, and it's pretty heavily processed, but I think it's pretty good:
i don't think so.
needs more reverb. but, that's my solution to everything.
04:10
*like from down in a cave* El chai yiftach
My high school choir also recorded a CD
a friend of mine worked for a small studio a while in the mid 2000s and he would send me draft mixes and i'd say, "more reverb on everything."
he said something about it not being the 1980s anymore
if someone hits a snare drum i still want to be hearing it 30 seconds later.
what a wonderful reminder of how old i am.
04:12
You're in the math chat, what did you expect
i dunno. i am a sum of discs. you can't determine my age.
What, like a tree?
like your squiggle diagrams. you can't work out what n is just from seeing me.
(You're referencing that problem that I was using to distract myself from my essay?)
Ah
04:15
Evaluating $\displaystyle \lim _{a\rightarrow \infty }\int _{0}^{1} a^{x} x^{a} dx.$
Let $\displaystyle \epsilon >0$ be given.
$\displaystyle x\mapsto a^{x}$ is continuous at 1 so there is a $\displaystyle d\in ( 0,1)$ such that $\displaystyle |a^{x} -a|< \epsilon $ for all $\displaystyle x\in [ d,1]$.
$\displaystyle |\int _{0}^{1} x^{a} a^{x} \ dx-\ \int _{0}^{1} \ ax^{a} |=|\int _{0}^{1}\left( a^{x} -a\right) x^{a} \ dx|\leq |\int _{0}^{d}\left( a^{x} -a\right) x^{a} \ dx|+|\int _{d}^{1}\left( a^{x} -a\right) x^{a} \ dx|$
Random bit of trivia: palm trees don't grow rings
I gave it a finer look @robjohn et @CalvinKhor.
braces around a single character aren't necessary, koro. save your keyboard.
$\phantom{secret message woot}$
leslie: I typed it in this editor mathcha.io/editor.
04:17
well, then. it makes sense as pasted output from something else.
Oh, neat
Is that a WYSIWYG LaTeX editor?
(=What You See Is What You Get)
YTC
(=yes, that's correct.)
:D
There are a lot of TLAs in the world
Koro, you need \left| and \right|.
yeah, the editor doesn't automatically add that on mod |.|
but seems to do that on parentheses.
04:20
$\sum\limits_\sum^\sum$
$\ddot\frown$
ü
Me when I run out of variable names from the English and Greek alphabets:
I think the solution above is correct now :).
it's official, akiva is the zodiac killer.
@leslietownes It does look like that, doesn't it
Fun fact: they finally decoded the Zodiac message in December
04:27
he gave us all the clues, and we've only now figured it out.
did it say anything good?
Not really
my dad was starting as a journalist in the north bay when the zodiac was still active. he has some weird stories.
the movie 'zodiac' is incredible.
i always tell my dad he was a slouch because he's not in the movie. some of the people he knew were characters (or had people replacing them as characters) in the movie.
@leslietownes beat me to the punch, but I guess this joke favors folks of a certain vintage....
dc3rd: :D
whoever did the location scouting for that film did a great job. i think a lot of it was shot in the LA south bay but it perfectly captures what vallejo/etc looked like in that time.
or at least what it looked like when i was alive to remember it in the 80s.
04:33
They CGI'd it to remove later constructions I think
in the opening swooping shot
a lot of SF is very obviously CGI'ed.
some of that is clumsy. still a great picture.
@dc3rd I wonder if you have to change your SE-wide profile to get the name-change through?
@AkivaWeinberger I'm a fan of Japanese blues & funk.
Nov 6, 2021 at 18:26, by PM 2Ring
@XanderHenderson In compensation, here's some Maki Shizusawa, Kimono de Blues
Also see I Can't Quit You Baby by the Shoka Okubo Blues Project. Juna on bass is an awesome slap bass funk player. Shoka also plays drums.
04:41
Not Japanese, but I'm a fan of this song from Laos
(not sure how to pronounce the title lol)
(Lam tang vai maybe?)
@AkivaWeinberger From the visuals, I was expecting hip-hop. But it's more like 70s-80s film music. :)
Here's Juna being funky: youtu.be/CH3XhtHdsj4
@AkivaWeinberger I wonder if that is the case....let me try that. it gave me the option when I changed it on MSE and I saved it.
Ah, hello, sir
Did the trick...............
I'll pay you in Lesliecoin each time I get tagged in a post
I feel like you've suddenly put on a Victorian English mustache
04:51
@AkivaWeinberger Nice!
(second syllable accented)
@PM2Ring Adding to my "watch later" playlist
How would you tag me now that I got spaces in my name?....it is not very computer friendly....let me make it so
@D.C.theIII
Does that work?
@D.C
It did.
that did too
I suppose DCIII is Roman numerals for 603
If I were designing Roman numerals, I would have made A=1, B=5, C=10, D=50, etc. Goes much higher
(I like the subtractive thingy though. Nice touch)
04:55
they really weren't thinking when they did roman numerals.
It's based on the earlier Etruscan numerals
They chose Latin letters that resembled the pre-existing symbols
i took a history of math class where we had to work out sums and products according to what people's best guesses were as to algorithms in roman numerals.
it was torture.
and that was people's best guesses. i'm sure actual practice was worse.
Luna Lee playing Hendrix on a traditional Korean instrument: youtu.be/NfOHjeI-Bns
i'm fairly convinced that some subset of romans just used actual notation and used the numerals as a system of record but not computation.
there's no other way.
I like the Chinese numeral system, where you have symbols for the digits 1 through 9 as well as symbols for the powers of ten, and then the number 9307 is written [nine] [thousand] [three] [hundred] [seven]
04:57
my daughter loves voodoo chile
九千三百七
There was also a positional Chinese system where you placed rods on a grid
Voodoo Chile is the "acid test" of heavy blues rock guitar.
The "zero" digit was a grid cell with no rods in it
PM: i can play it maybe at 1/8th speed.
See if you can guess what this is:
04:59
i can play the bass accompaniment in real time.
akiva: the euro-centrist in me says, pascal's triangle.
Yup
(Pascal, for what it's worth, called it the Arithmetic Triangle)
I don't think Romans really had algorithms directly using Roman numerals. They just used the numerals for recording numbers, not operating on them. Any arithmetic (beyond counting & very simple addition, subtraction, or multiplication / division by powers of 10) was done using some kind of abacus.
This is interesting, but last thing I need now is to pick up an interest in math history......so asking for a fiend what would a good book to start with?
Hm, makes sense. Abaci kind of are a positional notation system, anyway
the abacus is really, really, really easy to use. i'm surprised we don't see more of it.
05:04
@leslietownes I can play a slow acoustic version. Well, mabe not these days. My joints get too painful within minutes if I try to play guitar now.
I like the look of Khmer numerals
As another part of the Hindu numeral family, they work exactly the same as our Western Arabic numerals (positional base 10)
goodness.
it's no mystery why hindu-arabic numerals won out.
That's such a bad name for our numerals
"Western Arabic numerals" is much better
Hindu numerals are a whole family of numerals (including ours), and Arabic numerals could refer to these:
whoop
^Eastern Arabic numerals (on the bottom)
ok. you choose. i think the term "hindu-arabic" is some kind of attempt to acknowledge two sources. not necessarily to reflect the contributions of both.
Right, but it's not specific enough, is my point
05:08
Here's an insane version of Vooddo Chile by Zakk Wylde playing with Les Paul's trio, with Aussie Nicki Parrott on bass. youtu.be/s1OGQQk5HpM Nicki mostly plays jazz, but she seems to be having fun here. :)
I suppose "Western Hindu-Arabic" would be fine
but both the Arabic ones are Hindu so it's unnecessary
^various Hindu numeral systems
there seems to be consensus about 0
Mongolian numerals (from the same family): ༠᠑᠒᠓᠔᠕᠖᠗᠘᠙
Probably a good thing that we've basically all standardized on one system though
05:27
In the early days of the electronic calculator, there were some that had a built-in soroban. retrocalculators.com/digicus.htm If you're a skilled abacus operator, it's probably faster to use the abacus for addition & subtraction.
@AkivaWeinberger There is always the Paschal Triangle
05:42
Irish numerals predated all of the above, zero pint, one pint, etc.
More Aussies playing Voodoo Chile. Lachlan Doley is playing a clavinet with a whammy bar. youtu.be/086g6ZxvI58
@Koro It seems that $d$ depends on $a$.
I prefer his cover of whiter shade of pale...
nothing will beat a slide rule, however,,,
To balance all that raucousness, here's the remarkable blind Californian multi-instrumentalist Rachel Flowers playing Jardins Sous la Pluie (Gardens in the Rain) by Claude Debussy.
wow
i can hardly play chopsticks sighted
05:52
@copper.hat It's an excellent tribute to Gary Brooker. I guess Lachy goes a bit too wild on Voodoo Chile. ;)
growing up i shared a bedroom with two much younger brothers who loved heavy metal
the first time i say a sliderule it was a circular financial sliderul that my dad had
Circular slide rules explain Benford's law
i used to volunteer in a local elementary school, and one of my projects was to have the kids make a cardboard slide rule.
they liked it
05:54
If the possible values of a number span several orders of magnitude, its distribution on the circular slide rule will be approximately uniform
Neat
It's amazing to watch Rachel play an electronic organ, adjusting all the controls on the fly. She plays everything from classical through to jazz, prog, and Zappa. She's done some great stuff on guitar & keys with Dweezil Zappa. Here's one of her compositions she wrote for Adrian Belew. youtu.be/YLSijy_6tvg She plays everything on that track.
i had another project that we never got around to. basically a mine sundial on which you track the sun shadow and then use a few spots to estimate the latitude. really sorry we never got to that
For your next trick, calculate longitude
@PM2Ring some of my musical taste comes from my family (my brothers cringe at the notion that i have musical taste)
@AkivaWeinberger longitude is much easier
05:58
its just about timing
One way, I suppose, is to call someone whose longitude you know, get them to measure the solar time, measure your own solar time, and calculate the difference
the zenith gives local noon
yup
thats it
It was a massive unsolved problem in the 1700s because they didn't have clocks that were nearly as precise as required
(to maintain accuracy over months-long ocean voyages)
Learning how to make a basic sundial used to be an integral part of the mathematical curriculum. It's a little bit sad that it got removed.
yes, i am familiar with history :-)

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