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Hi chat
Or possibly the issue is how to conclude from here? There is a standard argument one uses now, but of course "standard" depends on the reader and where they come from. :)
If that's the case I will gladly write it down.
@MikeMiller ahah no I mean that I'm processing your input, so I can ask you more precise question about what's unclear:)
Or I guess if you post a question I'd write an answer with full detail.
Sorry! I'm going to fast. :)
@MikeMiller no worry! I appreciate the "incomplete" input, i.e. the fact that I have to put together things (assuming I'm able to do it:P)
@Riccardo Ok! Ping me if you need anything - I won't notice immediately but I'll notice soon enough.
16:14
I have here an (exemplary) definition for chain $C_i$ and co-chain $C^i$ with a finite simplicial complex $X$, and have difficulties to see how both can be of a "similar kind", isnt a set of functions something quite different from a vector space?
@MikeMiller Ok, I guess I'll start pinging:) So for me an Hamiltonian is just a map h: M \to R that we can use to define an hamiltonian v.f using the symplectic form. Is the map into the intersection of the two tangents defined as h \mapsto X_h where X_h is the vector field obtained using dh and the symplectic form?
@MikeMiller Hi Mike
@MikeMiller and then i'm a little bit confused on how this implies the transversality result we are looking for :(
@Riccardo Yes, I am thinking of the associated Hamiltonian vector field. Good point.
The end is what I call the "standard argument". If shows up all the time when studying transversality, and is worth internalizing. I am on my phone so it will take me some time to write down.
16:30
@MikeMiller Please, take your time :) thanks again
I'm going to use TeX to make it more readable - see TeX in chat to the right
Suppose we have chosen a finite dimensional vector space H of Hamiltonian vector fields. Consider the map $F: H x L_1 -> M$, given by $F(V, x) = $ time-1 flow of $x$ along $V$.
F stands for Flow.
The assumption on H about its image in each intersection tells us that $F$ is transverse to $L_2$ along $\{0\} \times L_1$.
By compactness of $L_1$, there is a neighborhood $U \subset H$ so that $F: U \times L_1 \to M$ is transverse to $L_2$. (First you get a neighborhood inside $H \times L_1$ then apply the 'tube lemma' to see existence of $U$.)
Tell me if you are with me so far.
@MikeMiller ok gimme a sec
I haven't done anything cool yet so don't be surprised if it doesn't seem like I've come to a conclusion
ok I think I'm with you so far
(I will have to leave in 10 mins for a class)
Ok, I will try to zoom through then.
Define $I_U = F^{-1}(L_2)$. This is a manifold, because $F$ is transverse to $L_2$.
16:42
yeah
There is a projection map $I_U \to U$. I will call the fiber above a vector field $V$ "$I_V$".
1) $I_V$ is the set of intersection points of $F_V L_1$ with $L_2$. (The first term means we have flowed $L_1$ along $V$.)
2) Exercise, but a very important one: $F_V L_1$ intersects $L_2$ transversely iff $V$ is a regular value of the projection $I_U \to U$.
(The proof should amount to symbol-pushing)
So consider that projection. By Sard's theorem, critical values are measure $0$ in $U$, and therefore regular values in $U$ exist - in fact arbitrarily small regular values.
yeah
Therefore one may find a Hamiltonian vector field $V$, as small as we want, so that $F_V L_1$ and $L_2$ intersect transversely. :)
I see! I kind of get the gist of it. there are some passages that I need to meditate a little bit more, but for now I really thank you!
Sure. I really like this argument, it is used in many places (for me I often need to work with Banach manifolds instead, or so).
16:47
@MikeMiller I'll write you after class if something is unclear, but I should be ok (hopefully)
Great :)
$\Re\left(\zeta \left(i t+\frac{1}{2}\right)\right)=\lim\limits_{c\rightarrow1}\Re\left(\frac{1}{2} \left(\frac{\zeta \left(c+i t+\frac{1}{2}-1\right) \left(2 \left(\frac{1}{c-1}+\frac{\partial \vartheta (t)}{\partial t}+\gamma \right)-\frac{\zeta (c) \zeta \left(\frac{1}{2}-i t\right)}{\zeta \left(c-i t+\frac{1}{2}-1\right)}\right)}{\zeta (c)}+\zeta \left(\frac{1}{2}-i t\right)\right)\right)$
$\frac{\partial \vartheta (t)}{\partial t}$ is the derivative of Riemann Siegel theta.
Do I see another Italian who did a Master in Bonn?
17:10
I didn't know you were at UT @Riccardo!! that's a great place for a topologist to be.
It seems eminently plausible we will meet at a conference one day.
17:21
Let's say I have a smooth manifold $M$, with a chart $(U, (x^i))$ on $M$. In this chart can I think of $\frac{\partial}{\partial x^i}$ as a function from $U \to TM$ with $$\frac{\partial}{\partial x^i} (p) = \frac{\partial}{\partial x^i} \bigg|_{p}$$
Ohh it turns out these are actually the coordinate vector fields
17:54
Let $\rho_i, i\in\Bbb N$ be the imaginary parts of the non-trivial zeros of the Riemann $\zeta$ function: $\zeta(\frac{1}{2}\pm\imath \rho_i)=0$, $(\forall i)$. Does anonye know if anything (in case what) is known on the Fourier-Transform of a "zeta-zero-Dirac-comb": $$ \mathcal{F}\left \{ \sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \delta(t - \rho_i ) + \delta(t + \rho_i)\right \}[t] $$
help with this recurrence
https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/3105406/repertoire-method-concrete-mathematics
@AbdelrhmanFawzy its no recurrence :-(
 
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@MikeM: Oh no! Another Austin topologist!
are there a lot of those
it's a @ted!
19:30
Hey all, I have a possibly simple question about global optimization
I know you can minimize(-fx) and you'll get the same parameters as maximize(fx)
In my case, I want to max(fa) but min(fb) at the same time. Wondering how you would combine the two?
I was thinking max(fa)+max(-fb) = max(fa-fb); but I guess you can't do that
19:45
@ÉricoMeloSilva Yes.
thats chill fam
 
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20:57
Hello. Let $I\vartriangleleft A$ be an ideal of a commutative ring and let $S\subset A$ be a multiplicative system. It seems $S+I\subset A$ is also a multiplicative system. Is the saturation of $1+I$ given by $A^\times +I$? (For the zero ideal this holds by definition.)
@AlessandroCodenotti yeah, and I studied in Trento as well :P
@MikeMiller Thanks Mike! yeah looking forward to thank you in person
@TedShifrin are we "famous" for not necessarily good things? :)
@Arrow yes, $S+I$ is also a multiplicative system; the saturation of $1+I$ isn't $A^\times +I$.
@LeakyNun could I have a counterexample for the latter?
any example you come up with should probably be a counter-example
@Riccardo Wow that's quite the coincidence!
I'm not going to become a topologist anywhere most likely though :P
21:05
@AlessandroCodenotti maybe a topologist who only cares for discrete spaces?
Is a person doing set theoretic topology still called a topologist?
@MatheinBoulomenos you might or might not be interested in this:
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Q: Analogy between metric space completion and algebraic closure

Kenny LauI've noticed some similarities between the story of completing a metric space and taking algebraic closure of a field. My question is whether these two stories can be generalized. Metric space Fix a metric space $(X, d_X)$. Consider isometries from it to other metric spaces (i.e. the under cate...

@Riccardo: I was teasing. One of our favorite chat denizens was one of you. I don't know what's become of @PVAL.
Plus his adviser is an old friend of mine from years ago ...
hi @Leaky @Eric
oh, and demonic italic @Alessandro
21:12
hi @Ted
@LeakyNun I am thinking about the case of $R[x_1,\dots ,x_n]$ and $I= \left\langle x_1,\dots ,x_n \right\rangle $. Sorry if I'm blind but I think the saturation of $1+I$ is $A^\times +I$, no? (Divisors of polynomials whose value at zero is one are the polynomials whose value at zero is invertible.)
heya @Mathein!
@Arrow ok you got lucky with that one
try $A=\Bbb Z$ and $I=7\Bbb Z$
@LeakyNun I am mostly trying to understand which aspects of my example make it work :)
when you figure out the real saturation of $1+I$ then you'll know
21:14
Could you tell me what it is?
(hint: use the fact that the saturation of $S$ is $\{t \mid \exists u, tu \in S\}$)
so if $tu \in 1+I$ what does that tell you about $t$?
@LeakyNun I don't know. I can express the saturation in terms of primes (since a prime intersects $1+I$ iff it and $I$ are not comaximal). So the saturation would be the complement of the union of prime ideals of $A$ not comaximal with $I$. This is probably not what you're trying to tell me
@Arrow hint: pass to the quotient ring
(it's often helpful to think of ideals as "kernels of homomorphisms")
or "things you can quotient by"
21:28
hi great minds,
where does the s come from in the Laplace transform?
@CroCo: Well, you need a function of some variable. What do you mean, specifically?
Then $tu\in 1+I$ says $t$ is invertible in the quotient ring. For this to imply invertibility in $A$ itself it's enough that $I$ be contained in the Jacobson radical.
it comes from Latin "trans", from Proto-Indo-European *terhâ‚‚-
@Arrow it's just the preimage of $(A/I)^\times$
you're complicating things
@Leaky: This one might be interesting for you to figure out.
@TedShifrin you ain't gonna smack me?
21:31
No, I will just ignore you.
@LeakyNun thank you!
@Arrow so in my example you can see that the saturation of $1+7\Bbb Z$ is $\Bbb Z \setminus 7\Bbb Z$
@TedShifrin I mean why we apply the formula? how the integral is defined?
@TedShifrin I remember a video about it in MIT course where the instructor explains it but I didn't get.
These are crazy questions. You should learn the definition and examples before asking such things.
21:35
@CroCo well from a probabilistic perspective, it is $E[e^{-sX}]$
I doubt that is helpful, Leaky.
is that what you mean?
@LeakyNun @Arrow easy generalization: the saturation of $S+I$ is the preimage of the saturation of the image of $S$ in $R/I$ for $S \subset (R,\cdot)$ a submonoid and $I$ an ideal
The Laplace transform is best understood as a special case of the Fourier transform.
@MatheinBoulomenos great, thanks!
21:36
@MatheinBoulomenos nice
The MIT course was indubitably 18.03 Differential Equations. The Laplace transform is used (as is the Fourier transform) to turn differential equations into polynomial equations.
@TedShifrin what's a good intuition for Frobenius's theorem (integrable iff involutive)? I don't really have a good feel for it other than the proof. So basically the only thing I have is that involutive --> we can make a "foliated" chart --> integrable. But the first arrow is kind of a "surprise" to me.
It's a surprise in that I don't see any reason other than the proof to say this is possible.
The intuition comes, I suppose, from the converse. If you have a foliation by submanifolds, then the distribution given by the tangent bundle is of course involutive (brackets of tangent vector fields are again vector fields).
I like thinking in terms of differential forms, of course, so understanding when $\omega=0$ has an integrating factor is a good starting place (for a $1$-form $\omega$).
The Fourier transform is used of course to study Riemann-zeta-type functions :P
@Leaky, are you trying to be particularly obnoxious today?
Go work on that question I linked to you.
21:42
ok
@LeakyNun I'm fairly certain that metric spaces don't form Galois categories in any natural way
@MatheinBoulomenos what definition of Galois category are you using?
Grothendieck's orginal definition
Fiber functor w/properties?
21:46
I don't have intuition for the Frobenius theorem. I think of it as a calculation that I use.
@TedShifrin I am not quite sure what an integrating factor would be with respect to $\omega=0$? Is it a smooth $f$ such that $f\omega$... I am not sure.
it just seems very unlikely that a nice category of metric spaces turns out to be equivalent to discrete finite $G$-sets for a profinite group $G$
@Riccardo Do you have an advisor? (are you thinking about Tim?)
@MikeMiller that's what it's been for me since I learned it.
Such that $f\omega$ is exact, @anakhro.
21:47
@TedShifrin oh wow, I should have guessed that.
Not everything needs to have a deep conceptual basis, I would say, and would say no more.
I stand by my remark that intuition comes from the converse. ;) And differential systems and Cartan-Kähler theory get really abstruse :P
@MikeMiller sure, but contact geometry kind of revolves around this theorem.
So I figured trying to dig for some intuition on it might be a good idea.
Khaler geometry is very fun
21:50
I have been attending this mirror symmetry class @TedShifrin It is such a fun class.
@TedShifrin what do you mean by the intuition coming from the converse? Why might it give intuition for why involutive --> integrable? Purely because you have this link between the two in the other direction?
Or is there something more you had in mind?
No, I meant the converse of that.
Right, the link in the other direction.
@CroCo: I figured that was what you were talking about. Do you have a specific question?
@TedShifrin, I've watched it but it is not clear. I need to know more. Hopefully, someone discusses it in more details.
@MikeMiller sorry, there is indeed a block determinant formula
it just isn't what I thought it was
Mattuck is an old friend and colleague of mine. He is exceptionally clear. Just saying "it is not clear" won't get you anywhere.
@Leaky: You talking about Cauchy-Binet?
21:57
@TedShifrin no, block matrices whose blocks commute
I don't know a totally general block determinant formula — you need some commutation.
Oh.
Right. That's an exercise in my books :P
It's actually quite important.
So just naively that because P-->Q, we might wonder if Q has any deeper relation to P?
@anakhro: I mean, it's not unusual that you get intuition for a $P\iff Q$ by understanding one direction and seeing why the reverse direction follows. Not always, but sometimes.
@MikeMiller yeah :) I guess it's an obvious choice if you like these kind of stuff
I mean you do have technicalities like the flowbox theorem to deal with in ODE.

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