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15:15
Hey everyone, do we need AC to prove that a free module is projective
But aren't we choosing an element for every basis element from a set?
@MatheinBoulomenos Regardless of the definition of projective one uses? It's obvious for some but it seems dubious to me for the "lifting property" one
I agree that we need AC
15:22
Hence we should define projective as "is a summand of a free module" :P
hmm...
module theory without AC is weird
there's a standard lemma with 3 different characterizations of semisimple modules where you apply Zorn for each direction
Everything is weird without AC
AC is weird without AC
Thanks everyone
15:27
Actually I would guess that "every free module is projective" (where projective means that it has the lifting property) is equivalent to AC over ZF
every free $\Bbb Z$ module is projective is apparently equivalent to AC
Seems reasonable
I think it shouldn't be hard to get right inverses for surjective functions assuming that free modules are projective, but I'm busy with other stuff right now
What is AC ?
axiom of choice?
It seems so.
15:44
Hello, how can we prove that it is impossible to express a surd $\sqrt{p_i}$ as a linear combination of one or more $\sqrt{z_i}$ where none of the $z_i$ are equal to $p_i$?
Is this well known proof, I cannot find it by googling
here $p_i$ and $z_i$ are all positive integers
@GaurangTandon $\sqrt{8} = 2 \sqrt{2}$
@LeakyNun sorry i had to say all p and z are primes
kummer theory
hey, is there a simpler version of it? the wikipedia version is very complex :(
Wikipedia can be a little on the technical side with it's math articles.
15:53
kummer theory is the solution to all your problems
Including non-math-related problems? I should look into kummer theory.
@Rithaniel :P
@GaurangTandon ramification
@LeakyNun one of the linear algebra problems I am solving in my undergraduate computer science course involves me having to assume that the above statement is true. so given that kummer theory seems so advanced, can i assume that the statement is true (Without having to include this proof)
16:00
I don't know how one would go about proving this elementarily: I'm not saying that an elementary proof doesn't exist, but that I don't have time to think about that
ok thanks :)
I guess you can do it with just Galois theory
"just" Galois theory
@MatheinBoulomenos "just" :(
Ovi
Ovi
Hello guys, sorry to intrerrupt your discussion; I am looking for papers in complex analysis, accesible to someone who has only taken 1 graduate course of complex analysis. Does anybody know about such papers, or journals where I might find such papers? Any guidance is appreciated
16:06
oh...and then is it possible to express $\sqrt{\text{prime number}}$ as a linear combination of one or more real numbers $z_i$ where all $z_i$ are $\neq q\cdot\sqrt{p_i}$ for rational $q$?
no
the set $\{ \sqrt{n} \mid n \in \Bbb N\text{ squarefree}\}$ is linearly independent over $\Bbb Q$
seems reasonable
yep I can believe it
@MatheinBoulomenos isn't 8 square free but still $\sqrt{8}$ is expressible as $2\sqrt{2}$, as @LeakyNun pointed out above :/
8 is not square free
16:11
square free means no prime factors occurs more than once
hey all, does anybody know of a good latex editor?
Is a convex set containing the 0 vector balanced?
do i see the rendered pdf live?
@MatheinBoulomenos actually what I meant to ask was how do we know that $\sqrt{\text{prime number}}$ cannot be expressed as sum of all types of real numbers, so that includes real numbers like $\pi$ and $e$ :(
16:13
$\sqrt{2}= \pi + (\sqrt{2} - \pi)$
@JoeShmo you can see it on the side, you just need to press a key to refresh
I think [0,1] is a counterexample, right?
I've been typing up my homeworks on overleaf this semester. I'd probably recommend it as a latex editor.
@MatheinBoulomenos thanks that's a perfect counterexample!
@Rithaniel I hated overleaf :(
it's extremely slow and doubled the amount of the time i had to spend on the hw. you would type something in, and nothing comes out for 6-7 seconds
Hmmm, that's fair enough. I haven't noticed it yet myself, but I imagine if I start recompiling things repeatedly, I'll get irritated with it being laggy.
16:27
Disable the automatic preview and overleaf is good for shared projects
(See, I didn't even know that there was an automatic preview option)
can you import packages in overleaf?
If I'm writing stuff by myself I'll use kile, but I picked an editor based exclusively on how easy it was to install on ubuntu so that's not the best
I need that Comic Sans and emoji packages
It supports a lot of packages, including all the common ones, tikz and biber
@MatheinBoulomenos lmao
16:30
Use fruit emojis for variables and face emojis for sets.
In my HW group for set theory we used a few weird symbols instead of the white square at the end of proofs during the semester. I remember snowflakes and bicycles
17:14
I still haven't gotten into using those boxes to mark the end of proofs.
@LeakyNun now I got a really elementary solution
Consider the infinite extension $L=\Bbb Q(\sqrt{p_1}, \sqrt{p_2},\dots)$. We have a surjection $\mathrm{Gal}(\Bbb Q^{ab}/\Bbb Q) \to \mathrm{Gal}(L/\Bbb Q)$ where by Kronecker-Weber $\mathrm{Gal}(\Bbb Q^{ab}/\Bbb Q) \cong \widehat{\Bbb Z}^\times$ with $n \in \widehat{\Bbb{Z}}^\times$ acting on $\Bbb{Q}^{ab}=\Bbb{Q}(\zeta_{\infty})$ on roots of unity via $\zeta \mapsto \zeta^n$.
Now let $p$ be an odd prime, then we have a quadratic Gauss sum $$\sqrt{p} = \varepsilon_p \sum_{n=0}^{p-1} \left(\frac{n}{p}\right)\zeta_p^n$$ where $\varepsilon_p = -i$ if $\left(\frac{-1}{p}\right)=-1$ and $\varep
Question: How do you manage posts of that length?
I use the preview from the main site
and then copy and paste it into the chat
When I type in overleaf it lags for a few seconds
So I just paste things into it
I'll need to keep that in mind next time I'm typing up a paragraph.
17:17
My fault for doing a gigantic document in one file
I don't get any lag on overleaf. Maybe I have the automatic preview turned off, somehow.
It's not the automatic preview. It's any typing at all. But this is surely specific to overly long documents.
You can (some would say should) split it up in files
@Rithaniel it's done automatically by the proof environment of the amsthm package
@AlessandroCodenotti too late now
I wonder if Lurie has his 1000+ pages documents in one file each
17:22
Certainly not
I find it interesting that the way biber works is actually an incentive to have a gigantic bibliography file you use for everything rather than making one for every project you type
I'm too lazy to do this stuff
let $\nu$ be a signed measure on $(\mathbb{X},\sum)$ and let $A\in \sum $ why $\nu(A)=0 \Rightarrow \vert \nu \vert (A)=0$
What's the definition of the absolute value measure?
$\vert\nu\vert(A) = \nu^{+}(A) + \nu^{-}(A) $
You mean total variation right?
$\nu(A) = \nu^{+}(A) - \nu^{-}(A)$
17:37
this doesn't seem right
$\nu^+$ and $\nu^-$ are Jordan's composition of $\nu$
Let $\Bbb X=\{a,b\}$ define $\nu$ via $\nu(\{a\})=1, \nu(\{b\})=-1$, then $\nu(\Bbb X)=0$, but $|\nu|(\Bbb X)=2$
Are you sure we are talking about the same thing?
what's wrong with the counterexample?
What's wrong with my definition?
17:41
nothing, but I doubt that $\nu(A) =0 \Rightarrow |\nu|(A)=0$ is true
@MatheinBoulomenos This seems fine
@Jacksoja just got home :)
@MikeMiller room owner?!
Ok, then if $\mu$ is positive measure and $\nu$ is signed measure then why $\nu \ll \mu$ then $\vert \nu \vert \ll \mu$
I assure you this is the least exciting thing to happen to me in two weeks
Dont lie Mike Miller yesterday you started crying
17:45
Lol
Sure, but definitely not because I became a room owner :D
@Eran the absolute continuity of $\nu$ wrt $\mu$ implies that $\nu$ is $0$ on any subset of a set of measure $0$ wrt to $\mu$ which is enough to imply that $|\nu|$ is $0$ on any subset of a set of measure $0$ wrt to $\mu$ by Hahn-decomposition
@Eran If $\nu^+(A) + \nu^-(A) = 0$, where both terms are non-negative, then $\nu^+(A) = \nu^-(A) = 0$. Therefore, for such a set, $\nu(A) = \nu^+(A) - \nu^-(A)$ is zero as well, and by assumption this means $\mu(A) = 0$.
What you were asking about was the implication $\nu = 0 \implies |\nu| = 0$, but you wanted the converse.
Nope I actually wanted to know why if $A$ is $\nu$-null then $\vert \nu \vert (A) = 0$
@MikeMiller
I assumed you were trying to prove this absolute continuity claim. Of course, Mathein gave a counterexample to your implication above.
17:51
that's not true unless u know every measurable subset of $A$ is $\nu$-null
$A$ is $\nu$ null so obviously every subset of it is $\nu$-null
not generally true for signed measures my man
that's only true for positive measures
like i said it's implied by the absolute continuity assumption
but it sure as shit aint true w/o it
The definition of $\nu$ - null is that for every $B\subset A$ , $\nu(B) = 0$
17:54
OK, then your question is straightforward by Hahn decomposition. If $A$ is $\nu$-null, then $A \cap P$ and $A \cap N$ have $\nu(A \cap P) = \nu(A \cap N) = 0$, and these are $\nu^+(A)$ and $\nu^-(A)$, respectively.
Of course this is a much stronger condition than just $\nu(A) = 0$.
i see you're using that definition of null
then yeah what mike just said
Thank you.
 
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19:11
How to get a job at the GCHQ
It's basically competition math?
Q10 is awful
"I divide them into the smallest 4, the next 4, the next 4 and the last 4 because I have no time to spend on this"
it's likely that the aim is to come up with some imaginative grouping
lol
grouping $n$ is divisible by $1^n$
vzn
vzn
@ÍgjøgnumMeg ? you might get a kick out of this :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collatz_conjecture
19:30
@vzn Thanks, I'm aware of the Collatz conjecture, though I've never devoted any time to actually looking at anything related to it
vzn
vzn
@ÍgjøgnumMeg hi, sure. (a premiere problem of number theory if you ask me...) you mentioned a dissertation awhile back? did you work on one? also seeking an Msc? what kind of IT are you doing?
@vzn I just work in the IT department of my university (providing technical support to staff members mostly). My undergrad dissertation was on algebraic number theory, I plan to do an MSc focussing on this area. :)
vzn
vzn
@ÍgjøgnumMeg cool you mentioned a software interview also, do you do some coding?
@vzn not really, only basic stuff to test some arithmetic stuff
but I did have an interview for a company developing software for mathematics students, my role would've been writing problems tho
hello friends
Let's say i were to write a program which generates all permutations of symbols allowed for my particular programming language up to 1 million symbols, saves those permutations and then executes them as a program each in its own separate thread. Some of those programs will not be valid, some may not halt of which some can be checked with a checker program on if they will halt or not while others might not. We are only interested in those programs which will output a finite sequence of symbols.
vzn
vzn
19:42
@pZombie its an undecidable problem to determine if the program "outputs a finite sequence of symbols".
Each program that outputs a finite sequence of symbols has its output stored in memory. Our main program then continues to check all permutations of symbols past 1 million symbols and attempts to find the first program which outputs a finite sequence that was NOT to be found/stored in memory.
One would think that now we found a finite sequence that requires more than 1 million symbols to output that supposedly new sequence but that is not the case since our main program can simply output it while only being a fraction of a million symbols
That might be closely related to berry's paradox
@vzn Yes it is but i am not sure this should prevent us from thinking about it. There has to be a FIRST program with more than 1 million symbols in length which would output a new finite sequence of symbols that cannot be generated by any program with less than a million symbols in size, no?
In order to circumvent the halting problem, we could further adjust our main program to check only all those programs which produce an output of a finite sequence of symbols within 1 trillion computing cycles/operations.
Now we would be looking for the first program with more than 1 million symbols in length which produces a finite sequence of symbols as output within up to trillion cycles. A sequence which wasn't produced by any prior program that is less than a million symbols in length, hence wasn't stored in memory so far
But again, our main program which is way less than 1 million symbols in length as it just goes through all permutations and stores their finite result in memory, could just check for the output of that first 1 million+ symbols in length program and print it out
19:59
Guys, may someone help me. I'm not sure why additive inverse elements of the integers are also generated by <1>, doesn't <1> mean something like 1+1+.....1? how can it possibly generate the inverses as well?
oh I see, <1> includes negative exponents, which I take to mean the additive inverses, am I right?
@mathsssislife You are correct.
why do I keep seeing people new to group theory thinking that <a> only includes the positive powers of a?
maybe there's a huge underlying problem on how group theory is taught...
I just learned that one can construct the complex numbers from the rational numbers by completing the space of sequences of pairs of rational numbers with respect to the Manhattan metric (and then appropriately defining arithmetic). What kind of space do we get if we apply the same procedure but with respect to the usual Euclidean metric? (other than that we of course get a complete metric space)
@Thorgott the same space
for integers, the generator is <g> = $\{$ $ng : n \in \mathbb{Z} \}$ right? how would I prove that?
20:06
what do you mean by g? the integers are generated by 1 and -1
i.e. $\Bbb Z = \langle 1 \rangle = \langle -1 \rangle$
(Please ignore this. I just want to check something.)
@LeakyNun oops, I meant If I wanted to use + as the binary operation, which is the case for the integers
is the following: $g+g+.....+.g (ntimes)=ng$ a definition?
yes
For $g \in G$ where $(G,+)$ is a group, $\langle g \rangle = \{ ng \mid n \in \Bbb Z \}$
Ok, thanks. That wasn't mentioned, I knew that it had to be a definition, it's because i've been told that if G is a group with a binary operation then the generator <g> $=$ $\{$ $g^n : n \in \mathbb{Z}$ $\}$
well you would also have to define $g^n$ similarly
$ng$ is just how you write $g^n$ additively
20:12
ahh, I see. Thanks!
i was hopping to discuss this before posting a possibly fail SE question but i guess i will have to give it a shot blindly
@LeakyNun Is this because the two metrics are strongly equivalent?
should i post this in computer science or mathematics?
@LeakyNun so why is it the case that if you wanted to prove a certain property for a group (G,+) you don't need to show that its the case for (G,.)?
@Thorgott I don't know what that word means
@mathsssislife because the name of the group operation doesn't affect the veracity of the statement
20:27
Does there always exists an isomorphism between two groups of different binary operations?
@mathsssislife no
but changing the name of the binary operation doesn't do anything to the group
I see
thanks!
Is ring theory taught after or before groups?
generally speaking
it depends
Some people like to teach rings before groups, some like to teach groups before rings, there are different opinions on the matter
technically sniped? :P
20:37
But fields come after both, right?
I don't think that's necessary
I learned what a field is in my very first semester of undergraduate math, in the linear algebra course, I learned about groups in the second semester, in abstract algebra
Galois theory?
That was a third year course at my uni, after two courses in abstract algebra
20:44
the tautological 1-form of $S^1$ would be a vector field on (the surface of) a cylinder... is there any drawing available?
Guys, If I wanted to prove something of the form $\exists x \in X : P(x)$ that is the same as saying $\exists x \in X and P(x)$. So what should I say other than let x $\in$ X therefore P(x), because usually it feels more natural (to me atleast) to write it in that form
because therefore usually means implication, which isn't the case
How can I prove that for every prime $p \neq 2$ there exists irreducible polynomial of degree 3 over $\mathbb{F}_p$?
@Eran why $p \ne 2$? $x^3+x+1$ is irreducible
Because that's the exercise...
how can I prove such existence
Can someone tell me if my proof is correct? Prove that the identity e of a group G is the only element of G satisfying $x^2=x$.
Clearly $e$ as the identity, satisfies the equation, since: $e^2=ee=e$ which implies that $e^2=e$. Assume there is another p$\neq e$ that satisfies the equation, therefore $p^2=pp=p$ that means p must be the identity which is a contradiction.
20:59
i asked a question on SE which seems to give rise to a paradox but once i finished writing it up clearly, i realized the answer and the mistake i made. Should i delete the question or let people answer it?
@mathsssislife well you didn't write down the crucial step...
you basically just copied the question
@pZombie you should answer it yourself
@pZombie You can even answer it yourself if you think it might be useful for other users
Damn it's the wild west out there tonight
$x^2 = x$ then each element in a group has an inverse , then $x^{-1}\cdot x^2=x^{-1} x$ $\Rightarrow x=e$
hm, i might be able to salvage my question after all just by increasing the number of operations from 1 trillion to a size large than required for my main program to finish
yeah, but i'm not sure why the contradiction thing is just copying the question
21:04
You didn't contradict anything. you just said $pp=p$ hence $p=e$ and that's answering the question by copying it.
When you say "that means p must be the identity" you're making a claim which requires a proof
isn't that a property of the identity?
@mathsssislife the main point of the question is to show that p^2=p implies p=e, which you failed to explain
@mathsssislife and that is the main point of the question!
@mathsssislife It is, but the exercise is asking you to provide a proof of that property
@mathsssislife You've shown $p=e \Rightarrow pp=p$ twice
21:08
Hi @Dami
How is it going?
@LeakyNun Do you have any idea?
@Eran I have a high-tech proof
that is basically the standard proof
@LeakyNun Show me what you've got
21:10
I think i fixed my question by some addition. Hopefully i did not miss something else
@Eran let $K$ be the splitting field of $X^{p^3}-X$ over $\Bbb F_p$. Pick $\alpha \in K \setminus \Bbb F_p$ and take the minimal polynomial of $\alpha$.
My question might lead to new mathematical insights but most likely i made some terrible mistake
Guys, is the statement : Let $a,b$ $\in G$. Then $ax=b$ has a unique solutions in G. of the form: $\forall a,b \in G$ $\exists !$ x$\in G$ such that $ax=b$?
@Leaky do you happen to know of a good reference to read the proof that the word problem for groups is undecidable?
(I'm asking you because it sounds like something you might be interested in)
@AlessandroCodenotti I don't... but just encode the halting problem :P
21:20
may someone tell me, please?
@LeakyNun Well yeah I guess that's how the proof goes
That's how every proof of undecidability goes tbh
@mathsssislife yes
@AlessandroCodenotti the truth has been spoken
Just like every proof of NP-completeness is showing a polynomial time reduction to SAT
okay, so to prove it, would be to say Let a,b$\in$ G set $x=a^{-1}b$ then ax=eb=b. that shoud suffice for the existence part, right?
21:22
thanks!
Just out of curiosity, what would showing uniqueness look like in terms of proving the statement (in terms of logic), because to show uniqueness one must assume that another element satisfies the same property, but that is logically different
@LeakyNun Two metrics $d,d'$ on a set $X$ are strongly equivalent if there are two real constants $c,C$, such that $cd(x,y)\le d^\prime(x,y)\le Cd(x,y)$ for all $x,y\in X$. Generally, completing two metric spaces $(X,d)$ and $(X,d')$ where $d,d'$ are strongly equivalent gives two metric spaces $(\overline{M},D)$ and $(\overline{M},D')$ with the same underlying set and two also strongly equivalent metrics. By which way did you derive your answer?
@LeakyNun What do you think about this one:
It suffices to prove that $x^3-a$ is irreducible for some $0 \neq a\in\mathbb{F}_p$. now, note that of $x^3=a$ has a solution then $a^{\frac{p}{3}} = a$ according to fermat's little theorem. BUT the polynomial $y^{\frac{p}{3}}-y = 0$ has at most $\frac{p}{3}$ solutions , that is there exists such $a\in \mathbb{F}_p$ that is not 3rd root of another element, thus $x^3 - a$ has no roots in $\mathbb{F}_p$ and is irreducible
21:37
Guys, $\forall$ a$\in X$ $\exists !$ ...

2) $\exists!$ ....... are usually proven differently, why is that the case?
for the second, it isn't usually done by contradiction, why is that the case?
21:49
@Eran try it on $p=5$...
($0^3=0$, $1^3=1$, $2^3=3$, $3^3=2$, $4^3=4$)
It worked with polynomial of order 2 :(
How can I make this proof work? maybe change the polynomial ?
do you know why your proof fails?
nope not really...
try running through your proof with p=5 then
ah yeah i can see that , but what assumption in my proof makes it to fail
why did it work for polynomial of order 2
21:53
@LeakyNun for the identity thing, could I just say Since $x^2=xx=x$e, hence cancelling the terms on both sides yields $x=e$ therefore it is unique.
I mean, go through your proof, but substituting for 5 whenever you see p
if your proof works for all p, then you proof should work for 5, right
@mathsssislife that's better
@LeakyNun Do you see what fails with p=5?
of course I do, I'm asking you to investigate your own proof
how would I write: identity e of a group G is the only element G satisfying $x^2=x$ in terms of logic?
Well i'd appreciate it if you could tell me
21:56
well 5/3 isn't even an integer
could you elaborate on the bit "x^3=a has a solution implies a^(p/3)=a"?
@mathsssislife stop writing things in symbols if you don't understand them
My TA used the same proof for polynomial of degree 2, and p/2 is not an integer either
ah i know why
he said a^(p-1)/2 = 1
and that's why it worked.
$\forall x (x^2 = x \iff x = e)$ @mathsssislife
@Eran right
and that's because 2 divides p-1 for every p>2
how can I make it here?
21:58
a similar argument would not work, as you could see that 5-1 is not divisible by 3
yup
only half of the primes p satisfy "p-1 is divisible by 3"
Do you reckon I could change something there and make it work?
@mathsssislife have you read any mathematics before that doesn't contain words?
21:59
@Eran well your proof would work for those primes
so you would only have to deal with $p=3$ and $p=3k+2$ now
How do you suggest?
no idea
I think you might want to consider $x^3-x-a$
@ÍgjøgnumMeg well the mathematics i've read usually contain a mix of symbols or words or both, when symbols are involved, things are way easier to understand, in my opinion.
But here i can't use fermat's theorem
ah i know.
$x \mapsto x^3-x$ is not injective (because 0 and 1 and -1 are all sent to 0) so it is not surjective
yeah this generalizes well
never mind it doesn't
22:02
@mathsssislife but the point is that well written mathematics always contains a mixture of prose and symbolism
it's only for degree 3 that you have "no roots implies irreducible"
then some a in F_p doesn't satisfy the equation x^3-x = a
@mathsssislife simply writing strings of symbols makes things incredibly difficult to read and understand
therefore $x^3-x-a$ is irreducible for that a
wonderful
Thank you sir.
22:13
Hey guys! Exactly who I was hoping for since it's time to vote
@ÍgjøgnumMeg Usually when writing things out with symbols and words help with formulating a structure for a proof, for instance , the way @LeakyNun wrote it in terms of logic, was much helpful than what was written in plain english, in my opinion
Doing a directed reading project this quarter, adviser gave some suggestions that all sound appealing: modular forms, understanding BSD conjecture, or elliptic curves over finite fields
Oh... number theory...
@Daminark modular forms
@Daminark elliptic curves over finite fields
22:16
m-forms
modular forms over finite fields
Hecke characters
global fourier analysis
"Understanding BSD over finite modular forms... wait"
22:20
might have more luck with understanding LSD @Daminark
didn't you do stuff on elliptic curves for your last reading course thang?
Yeah it was a bit about elliptic curves with complex multiplication sorta
First half of my paper was basically "What be an elliptic curve tho?", after that it was building toward the generalization of Kronecker-Weber
But yeah I guess I'm starting to become inclined toward modular forms, especially because I feel like I could use more AG before reapproaching elliptic curves
good luck working with the 8x8 quadratic form
vzn
vzn
22:28
@pZombie not really sure what youre getting at, but there is something in what youre writing about understanding the distribution of outputs of TMs versus the TM enumerations, that is similar to thoughts from Kolmogorov complexity...
@Daminark I also vote modular forms
I'd vote elliptic curves, BSD and modular forms in this order by preference
Hey @AlessandroCodenotti
yeah but you're a logician so
22:44
Gottem
Hi @Paul do you happen do know good references to read about automatic groups and the udecidability of the word problem for groups?
I think the only real reference is Word processing in group, at least for automatic groups
I see, thanks!
For undecidability idk, probably depends on what you want to know(like just a proof). I think Combinatorial group theory by Lyndon and Schupp has a proof
Although it isn't proving it for an explicit presentation
What are you up to Paul
22:49
@LeakyNun did you see my proof of the linear independence of the square roots?
Yeah just a proof would be fine for me. We showed that hyperbolic groups have solvable word problem (via Dehn presentations) in the GGT course and the professor told us that it is undecidable for general groups, but we didn't prove that
yes
I'm still digesting it
@vzn i composed a question which i hope makes sense here math.stackexchange.com/questions/3094079/… . Probably i got something terribly wrong but i gave it a shot
And then I discovered that hyperbolic groups are a subclass of those automatic groups so I want to find out more
@LeakyNun you can define modular forms over any base scheme
22:52
great!
@MikeMiller Nothing much, right now I am at Utah for the semester. I am procastinating on writing a test, and sort of thinking about this question, which I think I have a strategy for infinite type surface case, although quite a bit of work would be needed
What is up with you? @MikeMiller
I am finishing up my paper/thesis before putting it on the arXiv
Cleaning up notation etc
Today I am.writing a talk on triangulations for the grad seminar
I often have to integrate over solid angles $d\Omega$. But i have never seen (until today), an integral over a solid angle twice. Does anyone have an idea of what $d^2\Omega$ would mean?
Oh sweet, is this your last year as grad student?
@AlessandroCodenotti Have you been learning any forcing? There is is this neat result that it is consistent every set of reals is Baire measurable in ZF, and it has a cool implication that every group homomorphism $\mathbb {R} \to \mathbb{R}$ is actually continuous (after doing a bit of work)
And this further extends to every group homomorphism between Polish groups is continuous(in this model).
So along semisimilar lines, a friend of mine told me the other day he was reading some topological set theory and that stuff is just weird
23:06
you can prove that a measurable group homomorphism between Lie groups is smooth
@AlessandroCodenotti hyperbolic groups are actually biautomatic even. There is a larger class(which WPiG discusses a bit) called combable and bicombable, which has similar definition except without some of the algorithmic stuff, and more geometric
Never mind about my question. It was just a difference in notation. $d^2\Omega$ in some papers means $d\Omega$ in others. The reason this is the case is that $\Omega$ stands for solid angle, and integration over it is integration over two variables, leading some authors to leave a $d^2$ at the start of their variables of integration.
You have this weird axiom about compact Hausdorff spaces which, if you ignore continuum hypothesis, gives you some cardinality strictly between $\aleph_0$ and $\mathfrak{c}$ whose power set has cardinality $\mathfrak{c}$
I think
23:19
@PaulPlummer not yet, I'll take "models of set theory I" in the summer semester and learn it though
@PaulPlummer that sounds very cool actually
@PaulPlummer Yep I'm gone in half a year
@MikeMiller Got postdoc or anything, or still waiting(or leaving academics)?
I accepted a position but don't intend to talk about it publicly much until the job cycle is over; feel free to email me
No problem, congratulations!
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