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20:09
@MikeMiller Sorry I had a terrible brainfart, thanks
hi @Ted
hi Leaky
Hi @Ted
The current problem set in algebraic geometry is making me think about something you'd probably approve of instead of all the algebra: the Veronese embeddings
Hi Mr. Ted
20:16
We also talked about the Segre map in class
@MatheinBoulomenos what's a module again?
a module over a ring $R$ is an additive functor from $R$, considered as a one-object additive category, to $\mathbf{Ab}$
@AlessandroCodenotti ayy some actual geo
@MatheinBoulomenos thanks
wait, that was actually helpful?
20:19
yes
in that setting, a $R$-linear map is a natural transformation
and what is the R -> S ~~> S-Mod => R-Mod?
you can make a functor out of the assignment R->R-Mod by sending a morphism R->S to restriction of scalars S-Mod=>R-Mod
sure, but, in your interpretation?
that's just a restriction of the Hom functor $\text{Hom}(-,\mathbf{Ab})$ in the "category of additive categories"
20:23
and what's an additive category again?
I'm using it in the sense of an $\mathbf{Ab}$-enriched category
@TedShifrin I'm ready for some Spivak recommendations.
but some authors call that "preadditive"
and what's enriched?
it means that all Hom sets are abelian groups such that composition is $\Bbb Z$-bilinear
20:26
but do you have a better definition?
sure, there's the general notion of a category enriched over a fixed monoidal category
but we're getting to ridiculous levels of abstraction to define modules over a ring
I don't mean a more general notion
I mean a more compact definition
I imagine it's a functor to Ab from something?
@CaptainAmerica16 hi
if you want a compact definition for modules, you don't need the whole category stuff, just define them as an abelian group $A$ together with a ring homomorphism $R \to \mathrm{End}_{\Bbb Z}(A)$
you're advised to ignore this conversation between me and Mathein
20:29
I don't think it gets more compact than that
@ÉricoMeloSilva Yeah it was a pretty nice change of pace
@MatheinBoulomenos but with a categorical flavour
Oh yeah?
Is it secret stuff?
no
it's just abstract nonsense
I wouldn't have been as polite in describing what it is :P
20:30
@MikeMiller ah ok - I'll read the paper when I learn about them properly!
abstract hogwash, we're using complicated words to describe simple things
- story of mathematical life
I know Functor. It's a portal.
@AlessandroCodenotti how would you describe it?
20:31
@LeakyNun categorical definitions are often not very compact, since you tend to have compatibility/naturality conditions
@CaptainAmerica16 Done with kinematics?
@MatheinBoulomenos I'm fine as long as every open cover has a finite subcover
@Semiclassical Is that possible?
Done with kinematics for now? :P
@MatheinBoulomenos or equivalently, as long as it's closed and bounded
20:33
categorial bs @Leaky
@Semiclassical I suppose. I hate not being able to get into the deep stuff.
I'm a math noob.
"'You should talk about about functors' is a categorical imperative."
Jokes apart I'm kinda getting used to the categorical language between algebraic geometry and algebraic topology. I still have to wrap my head around adjoint stuff at some point though
@AlessandroCodenotti submodule span is an adjoint
hi @Daminark
20:34
@AlessandroCodenotti since I understood adjoints, I'm seeing them everywhere
@CaptainAmerica16 Here's a projectile motion problem which leads to something surprisingly fun.
@Semiclassical no pls
@MatheinBoulomenos What did you read that made you understand them?
@Semiclassical I had to do a lab on projectile motion for class. It was pretty basic though.
Suppose you can launch a projectile with speed $v_0$ at any angle towards a wall, which is a horizontal distance $L$ away. What's the highest point on the wall you can hit?
20:35
@Alessandro just read about a lot of examples and began to notice more examples on my own
my primer in category theory was Martin Brandenburg's "Einführung in die Kategorientheorie"
@Semiclassical Oooh 0-o
This leads to a derivation of the range formula which works more generally.
speaking of categorial nonsense - the centre of a ring $A$ is isomorphic to the endomorphism ring of the identity functor on left (or right? I think it doesn't matter but I'm too lazy to check) $A$-modules
20:37
@Semiclassical Can I see it?
@loch yes, and hence the Morita equivalent rings have isomorphic centers
Well, first give the problem a shot yourself. It's not hard: work out how the height depends on the initial angle
the answer to the chirality question is both
@Semiclassical Ok.
@MatheinBoulomenos I don't see how Schur immediately gives you $\operatorname{End}_A(A) \cong \oplus \operatorname{End}_A(V_i)$ as $\Bbb C$-algebras
20:38
@loch you might read the paper before you learn about them properly
it's a really good source to learn it
@LeakyNun that's just a computation
@MatheinBoulomenos sure
@Semiclassical Is it safe to say that the point it hits will always be lower than the initial angle?
What do you mean?
@Alessandro do you want me to try to explain adjunctions?
20:41
@MikeMiller oh yeah that's what i meant -- although maybe a better way of phrasing it is 'I'll read about it after my quals"
hah! got it
An angle isn't a height :/
for what it's worth i read that paper right around the time I read Gugenheim-May's paper (really fantastic imo and very useful for me personally) and it gave me really good intuition / understanding for both the model categorical phrasing of things and also even some of the computational aspects
Ok, let me think this through more clearly...
though the computation isn't really enhanced by the model categorical phrasing - perhaps just clarified
20:42
@MatheinBoulomenos Thanks for the offer but I'm a bit busy right now so I wouldn't really be able to follow you. I might ask if the offer is still valid in a while though!
@MatheinBoulomenos Yeah! Anyway - recently I learnt (although maybe part of this is wrong) that Hochschild cohomology of an algebra is isomorphic to the endomorphism ring of the identity functor on the derived category, hence is the "derived" version of centre
(btw, when I say 'range formula', I mean "how far can you reach on flat ground using any angle you want', not 'how far will you reach on flat ground using a given angle')
Zee
Zee
@MikeMiller in a CW complex X^n / x^n+1 should give a wedge of balls but I have in my notes a wedge of S^n
@AlessandroCodenotti ask anytime
@loch pretty cool! Hochschild cohomology is on my (way too long) short list of things I need to learn at some point
@Semiclassical Got it.
Not the answer, your explanation.
20:48
kk
for the latter it's best just to do the direct computation, i.e. "how long will it remain in air, and how far will it travel horizontally in the meantime"
@Zee Your notes are correct. The boundary of the balls are in $X^n$, so get killed in that quotient
@loch Hmm, it should be the derived category of $A \otimes A^{\text{op}}$ I thjink
@MikeMiller now that I looked at the abstract maybe I'll skim through it this weekend - it looks pretty concrete (which is great)
@MikeMiller oh maybe / probably
The endomorphism ring in the derived category should be Ext
and I think Hochschild is ext over that ring
yeah
to put it differently: the usual computation has you consider the ground as a horizontal boundary. I'm suggesting you take the wall as a vertical boundary
20:51
@MatheinBoulomenos I never got that email curiously
Ok. That makes sense.
Zee
Zee
If the boundaries get killed then am left with the wedge of n balls
oh... it went into spam
@Zee no, you're left with a wedge of copies of $B^n/\partial B^n = S^n$.
oops, should've used my university mail
it's fine
20:53
@MikeMiller thanks
Zee
Zee
@MikeMiller oh crap , I see now , Ball Moded by boundary gives you the sphere of the higher dimension
Hey @Leaky! And everyone!
@Daminark Artin-Wedderburn
can I try to teach you it?
@Érico Laci and Matt just got it in for me, one of my friends is still waiting and he has only 3 minutes
20:57
@LeakyNun nice greeting
Hi @Daminark
23 mins ago, by Leaky Nun
hi @Daminark
@MatheinBoulomenos Hirtin
@Leaky I just want to imagine that there exist people who just use "Artin-Wedderburn" as a greeting
And he missed the deadline for my friend :'(
@MatheinBoulomenos I just like to destroy a joke
21:00
Hmm, so right now I'm doing something, but I'll probably get home and back on my computer in the next couple hours
And then I'd very much be down
@Semiclassical I wasn't kidding when I said I was a noob. The height you are referring to - can it be calculated as vertical displacement?
I feel like I just answered my own question.
Ok, I'm thinking it's half of something.
@Semiclassical I think the height it hits will be equal to half of the height of the projectile at its highest point.
21:19
That'll be a problem, since I never actually specified what $L$ would be.
unless I'm misunderstanding what you said. (it's still not right)
Ok, don't solve it for me. Just give me a starting point. I'm probably misunderstanding you.
Start as with any kinematics problem: What are $x(t)$ and $y(t)$ as functions of time $t$? (There's also $v_x,v_y$ as functions of time but they're not terribly pertinent here.)
Ok, I'll be back in about 10 min. I think I'm starting to get an idea of how to do this now.
21:34
@Daminark rip
22:05
@MatheinBoulomenos noch hier?
yeah I'm here
What sort of thing is endomorphism
it seems out of place
I don't understand the question
well, it isn't a functor
there are other important construction that aren't functors
22:07
but if M and N are isomorphic A-modules then End_A(M) and End_A(N) are isomorphic algebras
@MatheinBoulomenos :frowns:
like taking the center of a group
2 hours ago, by loch
speaking of categorial nonsense - the centre of a ring $A$ is isomorphic to the endomorphism ring of the identity functor on left (or right? I think it doesn't matter but I'm too lazy to check) $A$-modules
that doesn't contradict what I said
endomorphisms is a hom functor evaluated with the same object in two arguments. It's logical that it's not functorial since the hom functor is covariant in one argument and contravariant in the other one
so if $C$ is any category we can consider the fulll subcategory of $C \times C^{op}$, consiting of objects of the form $(M,M)$, then taking endomorphisms in $C$ is functorial from that category, since a morphism $M \to N$ in that category is a pair of morphisms $M \to N$ and $N \to M$. there's a functor from the subcategory of $C$ where we only allow isomorphisms as functors sending $M$ to $(M,M)$ and $f$ to $(f,f^{-1})$
but that's just useless nonsense
22:17
2 hours ago, by MatheinBoulomenos
a module over a ring $R$ is an additive functor from $R$, considered as a one-object additive category, to $\mathbf{Ab}$
I want to prove this in Lean :P
so, what do you mean by "ring" here? as in, non-commutative and with unity?
non-commutative with unity, yeah
cool
that's exactly what ring is in Lean
good choice
I do like my non-commutative rings
22:30
i would disagree with any other def
Hi chat
bonjour @Astyx
ca fait longtemps que j't'ai vu
22:46
Un peu
23:23
$$A_{tr}^\ast \cong Z(A)^\ast$$
how ya doing? @Daminark
Alright, think I'm ready for some Artin-Wedderburn
23:52
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