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09:01
@anon On the good side, you've prompted me to improve the answer.
09:13
I don't like the title of this question. Does anybody have a good suggestion how to improve it without changing it too much?
(the title does not make much sense the way it is right now)
"Proving the existence of a bounded extension operator" might work, yes?
@JM That only covers the interesting part of the question which is stated at the very end. The main part of the question is concerned with showing properties that immediately follow from the existence.
@tb To prove: there is a subspace $W\subset C(X)$ such that $C(X)\cong W\bigoplus\{f\in C(X):f|_F=0\}$?
I realize it leaves $F$ hanging.
Anybody know offhand the character limit for titles?
@JM Maybe 150? I've run into it only once.
09:23
@BrianMScott Yes, I like it much more. I'll probably edit it into a small variation of that one a bit later.
Yes, I have the same recollection as Brian, 150. I've run into it a few times when there were lots of $\mathbb{R}^n$'s or something to that effect.
If so, then Brian's suggestion is nicely short...
@tb The one I hit had gone overboard with unnecessary curly braces, so all I had to do was prune them.
@BrianMScott Michael Hardy's heart certainly was very grateful for this pruning job :)
Come to think of it: is there any etymological relationship between "to prune" and the French la prune (the plum) or is this just a coincidence?
Coincidence.
They definitely have different sources, though the etymology of the verb prior to Old French proignier seems to be uncertain.
For that matter: the etymology for "prune" the verb and "prune" the noun are quite different.
09:34
The noun goes back to Latin pruna 'a plum'.
(Mmm, prunes.)
That's what I expected. Thanks.
@JM Prune the plum tree.
I first encountered the word "to prune" in the context of "pruned trees" (set theory) and at first I wondered why it meant sort of the exact opposite of what I had in mind when I was thinking of a tree full of prunes (in the French sense)...
@tb I would be suspicious of a tree full of prunes...
09:36
Now you have me picturing a tree full of sour old Mrs. Grundy's.
Yes, the verb's usage started in a gardening context, and was then generalized...
@BrianMScott I definitely imagine her as preserved by drying and having a wrinkled appearance...
@JM It was extended very early. The first citation in the OED is from 1547; the first figurative citation is from 1565. (There is one possible 15th century instance of the word; either it's a figurative use of this verb, or it's a figurative use of another verb prune meaning 'to preen' (of a bird preening its feathers).
Ah, good to see my memory didn't fail me here. Thanks for checking!
09:49
(One of these days, I'm going to buy a real dead-tree OED...)
I am worried that one cannot look at that picture for too long.
And: hi guys!
@Ilya I kinda like the Weierstrass function more myself, but since you deal with stochastics, it seems apt...
@JM :)
Hi Matt!
09:57
Hey, Matt
@BrianMScott Interesting. Thanks!
@JM A subscription to the on-line OED might be a better bet: they're working on the 3rd edition and posting it to the on-line version as they go.
@Ilya It is rather hypnotic.
I always wonder why some people seem to think that one hour of fiddling should be enough for finding the answer to a problem.
@Brian: that is what worries me
@Ilya Don't worry about it. I was intrigued and amused, not bothered.
@BrianMScott I felt a headache after updating the answer an having this picture in the corner of my eye
10:04
@Ilya If your eyes start drooping after a few seconds of staring at it, then you have cause for concern...
I voted to close this question in order to resurrect it afterwards. Anyone in?
@tb He probably doesn't but he probably has a homework deadline on Monday and 5 other sheets to solve til next week.
@tb Done.
Oy!
Look at this.
How likely is it that two people make the exact same typo?
The second one after I corrected the first one?
@tb I used to point out that my adviser published the first known consistent example of a Dowker space in 1955 and the first known ZFC example in 1971. That's quite a few hours of thinking about the problem.
I think that ultimately it lies on one's concept of "a long time"...
@MattN Perhaps the answerer just copied the term from the question before you edited it?
10:12
@MattN It's a very easy typo to make; I do it quite often, though I always correct it.
Okay. shrug
But that's a boring, drama-free explanation.
Yes, I just saw that. Gigili is probably right.
@BrianMScott Oh, yes... But at least she was lucky enough to find an example.
(twice)
@BrianMScott Isn't it always the case?
10:15
@Gigili By definition, I'd say.
More than twice, actually: she later found more with nicer properties. sigh If only all of my hours of thinking were that productive!
Just a note, I fixed some bugs(and expanded sites) in this script , so you may want to reinstall it.
@Manishearth I saw that on meta but failed to install it.
I like the visual instructions on the installation page.
@Manishearth Oh hey, you're the guy that asked about benzyne in the other site...
10:19
@Gigili That too. I'd renamed it and forgotten about it
it works now
@JM :)
@MattN You know what it is, right? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/9731/…
@JM Are you saying that the name rings a bell?
@BrianMScott ;-)
@Manishearth I see. No I didn't.
Now the most idiotic person on the face of the earth just entered the room.
10:22
@BrianMScott Yes, though I had to cycle through my memories to be sure...
What a day.
@BrianMScott It doesn't only ring a bell, the bell resonates
I guess chem jokes are allowed on Math.SE chat by xkcd.com/435
Oh, we joke about a lot of things here. Sometimes we do math...
... even do math ...
Oh, btw, in case it wasn't clear: I was talking about IRL, not this chatroom up there^
10:26
Uh-oh
:4466425 In real life. Not this chat room. : )
@JM In that case, enjoy this Physics.SE question:
@MattN quite a confusion :)
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Q: What is the most efficient way to destroy the universe?

SplashHitDon't worry... I won't actually do it, just would like to know how.

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@Ilya Yeah, sorry about that.
10:26
The Don't worry part cracks me up ;-)
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@Manishearth I wouldn't think he does if he didn't wrote that :)
oh lordie, "kill all the turtles" got a +50 bounty.
@anon what's that?
(a) an allusion to an answer in Man's link, which itself contains (b) an allusion to "turtles all the way down."
10:28
@tb Done.
Thanks!
@anon Bounty was awarded by a non-P.SE member physics.stackexchange.com/users/1044/mootinator?tab=reputation
(seen him around MSO though)
@tb I guess they don't realize that there is still searchengine value for the dupes
(lots of users delete dupes as well)
10:35
Dupes are automagically deleted after a certain amount of time, so they really don't have to do it...
Juhuu, this is really useful @Manishearth. Thank you.
@JM really? Even if they have upvoted answers?
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Q: Do not delete duplicates!

jjnguyThis question (currently deleted (visible only to 10kers)) is a great example of a duplicate question that should not be deleted. The titles of the duplicates are completely different. Having duplicates around greatly aids search hits on the site. We need to keep questions like this around fo...

Looks like it isn't automatic
I'd certainly hope not. Sometimes the answers to the duplicates are more useful than the answers to the older question(s).
Hi. According to this, the ring $\mathbb R[x,x^{-1}]\subsetneq \mathbb R(x)$ is a PID. Is it a Euclidean domain as well?
10:40
/leaves
The only automatic deletions I'm aware of are downvoted questions with no answers and no or low activity.
Where downvoted = negative vote total, of course.
@tb really? there is even a badge if you delete such a question by yourself (with > 3 downvotes)
I think that's for answers not questions, but I might be mistaken.
@anon the badge?
Actually it just says "post" on the badge description for Disciplined, so I guess it works for either question or answers.
10:44
Umm, there's a bug.
@anon: just checked out the same here. Hm, some of them I do know
What tags can be added to this one (if any)?
@tb Hmm, I must have misremembered. I think what you said there is what happens.
@MattN: funcan seems to be apt, but I am not sure since I didn't deal with Sobolev spaces
@tb interesting
10:50
@Ilya I added sobolev-spaces.
Robjohn has the shortest discussion in comment for his election post :)
@JM: is it possible to see how much each user spent on bounties?
@MattN sorry I wasn't notified that you already re-tagged. Otherwise I'd have told you to add pde and functional-analysis
@Ilya Huh, I have the longest. Whatever I say and wherever I talk, someone jumps in and asks "I doubt you could do that since you called someone narrow-minded, could you elaborate?".
@tb Unforgivable.
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It'd have looked worse if I hadn't added the sobolev-spaces tag myself, wouldn't it? :)
10:55
@Gigili to conclude with this comment: next time try not to call anybody narrow-minded. At least in the text form :)
@Ilya I'd delete the world from all dictionaries, even.
@Gigili why are so harsh to the worLd? :)
@Ilya Am I? Haven't noticed.
@Gigili you want to delete the world
Oops!
11:00
@Gigili that's the phrase before this world will end :)
I like it when Ilya is in a good mood :)
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@tb Who doesn't? ;)
Haven't we seen [this] recently?
@tb I'm certainly not in a good mood now, but thanks :)
Haven't we seen this recently?
11:02
I was wondering, too.
@Ilya Oh well, the treacherous pitfalls of written communication...
^ now that's a pleonasm :)
@tb Found it, and voted to close.
How long before every question on the front page is a dupe...
@BrianMScott could you please edit the title, too?
There'll be a time when we have to close users as ED.
11:13
Is it just me or is Didier's comment by far the best solution to the problem?
(compared to the solutions in the duplicate and the one just posted?)
@tb I do believe that you're right.
And on that happy note, I'm for bed. Take it easy!
@BrianMScott See you!
@BrianMScott Good day, and g`night =)
Good night, Brian!
Good night!
11:25
Re: the suggested edit, Does double map mean double covering or a bijection? I don't know the groups to tell.
Any hints on $\sum_{n=0}^\infty n^2 / \pi^n$ ? =)
@N3bu: Apply $(x\frac{d}{dx})^2$ to the geometric series...
@tb I have never seen Ilya in a bad mood!
@anon I know I am supposed to transform it into a geometric series, but I do not see how what you posted helps me? Afer carying out the calculations I do not seem to end up with a geometric series? =( I feel dumb.
11:33
@N3buchadnezzar What happens to the geometric series after differentiating it twice?
@N3bu: Hint #2, $$\left(x\frac{d}{dx}\right)^2x^n=n^2x^n.$$
@anon Maybe he's not used to that operator abbreviation...
Note the square is in terms of the operator algebra, so it is $x\frac{d}{dx}\big(x\frac{d}{dx}(\cdot)\big)$. @JM I just noticed.
So this is basically short hand for multiplying by x, and then differentiating twice?
Nope. Look at the parentheses in my comment. $$\left(x\frac{d}{dx}\right)^2 A= x\frac{d}{dx}\left(x\frac{d}{dx}A\right).$$
You would have to use the product rule in general.
11:37
Oh right, I see now. Thanks. I will try that, will be bak if everything goes wrong, or my house burns down or something =)
Though here you can just notice $x\frac{d}{dx}x^n=nx^n$, so $(x\frac{d}{dx})^2x^n=n^2x^n$.
If your house burns down this math problem should be the least of your worries.
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@anon Archimedes would beg to differ
Man I thought you said I should apply $\left( x \frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d}x} \right)^2$ to my series, not the geometric series. Doh!
Then I get $$ \sum_{n=1}^\infty x^{2n} n^2 = \frac{x^2}{(x-1)^4} $$, and setting $x=1/\sqrt{\pi}$ gives me my answer. Thanks =)
To quote Beni: "writing answers works very slow" these days... :/
@N3bu: Why $x^{\color{Red}2n}$?
@tb Really? I just thought it was my Internet connection...
11:50
@JM It's nearly unbearable.
I don't understand. What is?
The MathJax has gotten a biiit slower to load in the past few days.
The live rendering of MathJax has noticeably deteriorated again.
Didn't notice.
@N3bu: Also, I get $$\left(x\frac{d}{dx}\right)^2\frac{1}{1-x}=x\frac{d}{dx}\frac{1}{(1-x)^2}=x\frac{1+x}{(1-x)^3}.$$
11:52
Impressive given that my machine is >6 years old and I have about 50 tabs open.
I assume you guys are using FF. That usually makes everything slow.
I think it's more the length of answers that counts.
And that.
On the other hand I do a lot of answers with align environments, and those really are slow to render...
@tb Did you replace "obvious" with "of course" since I complained about it?
The meaning is the same, ya know.
@MattN I have no clue what you're talking about, so no.
11:56
@tb You used to use "obvious" a lot. Now I haven't seen that in a while but I've been seeing "of course"...
: )
@MattN what do you use?
@MattN No, not consciously anyway, and I still fundamentally disagree with your stance on "obvious".
Hello @Isaac.
@Ilya Chrome (of course : ))
@tb Of course you do. We disagree just about everything I could possibly think of : ) (except maybe for the fact that life's too short for bad food)
it is still not very accurate with RAM
12:00
But then again agreement is boring : )
...and if you eat a lot of bad food, life becomes short indeed.
@JM But then again, what is life if it only consists of boring food?
@N3buchadnezzar $\text{bad food}\neq (\text{boring food})^c$
Well put, Ilya.
12:09
@JM was an obvious argument of mine. Even a trivial one
I tend to think that really good food tend to taste plain, and un interesting. Although salad seems to be an hilarious food to digest.
@MattN there's a norm one projection onto the subspace.
@tb So the subspace is the image of the projection. Ok, thanks.
@MattN yes, a subspace is said to be complemented if it is the image of a continuous projection. People say $K$-complemented if there's a projection of norm $\leq K$.
@tb What's wrong with for example $\ell^2$ with any one-dimensional subspace?
12:15
@MattN the question is whether it works in an arbitrary Banach space. Hahn-Banach only gives you a projection of norm $n$ or $\sqrt{n}$ if you're a bit more clever but you can't do much better in general.
Ah doh.
Are the other two tags needed here?
@Gigili: no
Umm, never mind.
13:07
Did you solve your problem you needed help about, @Jeff?
@Gigili The one from last night? No. We are forced to skip that problem due to time constraints.
Thanks for asking, though. It's still posted if you ever want to look at it: math.stackexchange.com/questions/140445/…
spam please flag
Right now I just need to show that $\frac{1-|z|^2}{|e^{it}-z|^2}$, but I'm always confused by a+bi form vs. e^it.
Question: doesn't $e^i$ plot as point (0,1) on the complex plane? If so, isn't the Real(e^i)=0? If so, how come my calculator returns Re(e^i)=.5403?
^ ^ No "t" in any of those exponents.
13:23
@Jeff $e^{i\varphi}$ is a unit vector with angle $\varphi$ measured counterclockwise from $1$. Here $\varphi = 1$ which corresponds to an angle of approximately $57.3$ degrees. The real part of $e^i$ is the cosine of $1$ which is $0.54$
oh duh! Re(e^i\pi)=0. Brain hiccup, or something. (it's early AM still!) :D
^ ^ still wrong
$Re(e^{i\pi/2})=0$
you want $\pm i\pi/2$ :)
yup ... actually, i want to figure out how to simplfy an expression which has complex numbers in x+iy form and also in e^it form and also absolute value bars. :D
I'm sorry, @Jeff. I know absolutely nothing about the topic. I binged it up to remind p-mathematicians in the room to help you!
Tee-Bee, foregzampel.
just to make sure i'm not making more mistakes $|z|^2$=|re^{it}|^2=r^2$. Yes?
@Gigili Aaaah. Good man (or woman!). Ty
13:29
@Jeff yup
@Jeff I'm a man.
now, how about $|e^{it}-re^{it}|^2$
@Jeff what do you need to show about this fraction?
@Jeff use $z\bar{z} = |z|^2$ and expand
(here $z = (1-r)e^{it}$ so it's even easier)
(special case of previous question)
the whole question is to show $\displaystyle \frac{1-|z|^2}{|e^{it}-z|^2}=Re(\frac{e^{it}+z}{e^{it}+z})$.
Use $\operatorname{Re}{w} = \frac{1}{2}(w + \bar{w})$
13:33
send that again pls @tb
i executed mathjax on it and can't see the source anymore
what do you mean?
Perhaps you should have considered reading mathjax its rights and giving it due process before going for extrajudicial elimination?
lol
@Jeff why do you need the source?
@Jeff it was \operatorname{Re}{w} = \frac{1}{2}(w + \bar{w}). You can always right click on a formula, select "show math as" and "TeX commands"
13:36
cuz i thought tb was trying to show me how to correct my latex
No, I was giving you a hint on how to establish the desired identity :)
is complex conjugate of $e^{it}=e^{-it}$?
yes
yes if $t$ is real
@tb How do you say "seems so" in German? "Noch Wach?" "So klappt es"
Makes sense?
13:40
"scheint so" oder "wie es scheint". But hard to say without context.
@Gigili "scheint so". "So klappt es" means "this works"
And "Noch wach?" means "still awake?".
So, no "makes sense."
Any tips on how to integrate $\sqrt{1 - 2\cos t}$ ? I tried using the half-angle formulas, but did not come up with anything clever.
so $|e^{it}-z|^2=(e^{it}-re^{it})(\overline{e^{it}-e^{it}}) \ne (e^{it}-re^{it})(e^{-it}-re^{-it}) $
13:43
I can't parse this, sorry
that's supposed to be a longer bar
Use overline.
\overline{}
then use \overline
render
13:43
hivemind
First.
@N3buchadnezzar what is $\cos 2x - 1$?
@Ilya $2 \sin^2 (t)$ ...
@Jeff The second thing inside the second thing is missing an r I believe.
@Ilya I was so focused on finding something that worked with $\cos(t)^2$, I guess it is true that in the forest you can not see the trees... Thanks once again =)
13:45
@MattN you're right. too late to change it
@Jeff start with the right hand side of the desired identity set $w$ to be equal to the fraction. (and I don't understand your inequality sign)
but anyway, if i factor out e^{it} first, it's easier. then i just change the sign of the exponent
the inequality means i made a mistake and it's not right :D
$\operatorname{Re}{\left(\frac{e^{it}+z}{e^{it}+z}\right)} = \frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{e^{it}+z}{e^{it}+z} + \overline{\left(\frac{e^{it}+z}{e^{it}+z}\right)}\right) = \cdots$
@tb sorry, i've been asking about all different parts of this question and mixing up response. i have to get more organized. here is the actualy identity i need to prove (no typos this time: $$\frac{1-|z|^2}{|e^{it}-z|^2}=Re\frac{e^{it}+z}{e^{it}-z}$$
So the RHS is (don't tell me yet):
$$Re\frac{e^{it}+z}{e^{it}-z}=\frac 12 {\left( \frac{e^{it}+z}{e^{it}-z} \right)}{\overline{\left( \frac{e^{it}+z}{e^{it}-z} \right)}}$$
(sure, I just mindlessly copy-pasted your thing without even noticing that it is one :))
@Jeff \overline
13:53
^ who are you sending kisses to? : )
@MattN who is sending kisses?
@Jeff there's a + missing between the two parenthetical expressions
@Ilya x $\cong$ a kiss, in English.
$$Re\frac{e^{it}+z}{e^{it}-z}=\frac 12 \left({\left( \frac{e^{it}+z}{e^{it}-z} \right)}+{\overline{\left( \frac{e^{it}+z}{e^{it}-z} \right)}}\right)$$
yes
13:55
@MattN: I didn't know that
$$=\frac 12 \left({\left( \frac{e^{it}+re^{it}}{e^{it}-re^{it}} \right)}+{\overline{\left( \frac{e^{it}+re^{it}}{e^{it}-re^{it}} \right)}}\right)$$
@Ilya This chat is very educational, isn't it. : ) I end many emails with "xxx <my name>".
$\overline{e^{it}+re^{it}}=\overline{(1+r)e^{it}}=(1+r)e^{-it}$
@Jeff Why do you think $z$ has an argument equal to $t$? That isn't necessarily the case. I see no advantage in writing $z$ in polar form; just keep it as $z$.
@Jeff are you sure that $z$ and $e^{it}$ have the same argument? Because then you already have a real expression before even taking the real part...
13:58
@anon @tb that is why i always confused. i'l leave it as z
that's a much better idea.

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