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00:11
hey guys i just found a breakthrough in mathematics on vixra vixra.org/pdf/1607.0499v1.pdf
this better be good
> Theorem 1.1. Kothe conjecture is right.
im laughing so hard right now
this website's a fucking gold mine
i just found a "proof" of fermat's last theorem
typed up using ms word
> King’s Mongkut Institute of Technology Ladkrabang
Mechanical Engineering , Thailand
That guy probably has a PhD and everything
> Mr. Sattawat Suntisurat
Maybe not?
he may not have a PhD
but he has a catchy name
sounds like "hakuna matata"
Maybe that proof is correct. Will anyone check?
00:16
I tried to check it
but i really got lost in all the pseudomathematics
ok uhh wtf
this guy posted 3 proofs of this on vixra
> Shortest proof in the world of The Fermat’s Last Theorem\
pretty impressive
@Balarka: Not sure what I'm supposed to read and what not. :) You use planar to know $\tau = 0$. ... 16b is far more subtle. You're fine if no geodesics have $\kappa=0$ somewhere. But otherwise ...
Hope you got some good sleep finally.
Ok let's check it
the proof I mean.
Eq. (1) is correct.
what the heck is (2) lol
hello 0celo
@TedShifrin Hi. Is a 55 average normal in a first year grad class?
For an exam, I mean.
Sort of a meaningless question.
Different professors have different testing/grading styles.
My numbers were always a bit lower than most people were used to, but I didn't use the usual 90-80-70 grading scale.
00:25
@user3502615 I think equation 2 in that paper is wrong
It also depends whether you're talking upper undergraduate/MA level or PhD level.
I should email the author
"Think"ing the equation is wrong isn't good enough, 0celo. Do you have a counterexample?
@TedShifrin No, I think it is equivalent to Fermat.
But he pulled it out of thin air
@TedShifrin First year quantum
Honestly, there are a lot of frauds out there. I personally wouldn't waste my time on it.
00:30
All the incoming grad students are taking
@TedShifrin I'm not wasting time. I got a new phone and am babysitting the backup process
First year as in Ph.D. level or M.A. level?
LOL, oh.
@TedShifrin MA. It's a 500 level class
@TedShifrin So I'm doing whatever is least boring but does not require lots of attention
Then it's less surprising. Probably the professor would have been happier with an average 10-15 points higher.
But some professors write exams expecting a 40 average.
i want to be a professor
The grading scale is 90-80-70 I think
00:32
Then I hope you learn to be a good teacher, @user3502615. That's not a priority for too many.
0celo: I doubt the professor will give half the graduate students Ds and Fs.
im going to try and solve some IMO problems tonight
I don't think I've ever solved one.
But I haven't tried many.
what do i have to do if i want t get into an IMO?
do i have to be in high school?
You have to be on your national team.
honestly
00:36
People train for years, first locally, then on national teams.
i suck at number theory
@TedShifrin He sent out a message telling anyone who got below a 50 to schedule a meeting with him
(I did not get below a 50)
If the exam was one people should have gotten 80s on, then a serious graduate student is in trouble doing so poorly, so it's good of him to force a meeting. I think that shows caring.
@0celo7 what class?
oh he definitely cares
he's doing an optional problem session once a week now
00:44
Hi
@user3502615 QM, first half of Sakurai
sakurai? the man who made Super Smash Bros.?
Yes
he's also a physicist
Is there an efficient way to grab all polynomials of less than or equal to degree 3 in mod 3? That's 3^3 =27 polynomials and all I got are 16 or 17. It's like all the polynomials is the form Ax^3+Bx^2+Cx+D, Ax^2+Bx+C, Ax+B and A
you should appreciate him, 0celo ... atypical.
@usukidoll: You should be able to figure out for yourself what you're missing.
00:47
@TedShifrin Hmm?
I appreciate the prof just fine, I'll be going the problem sessions even though I got the grade I wanted.
I'm just saying a professor who cares is atypical.
im disappointed in my 8th grade physics teacher; today, he told the class that acceleration is an "exponential increase in speed"
lol
Oh dear ...
im no physicist but im pretty sure acceleration has linear speed.
00:50
But 8th grade physics teachers aren't exactly super well-trained.
No, that's wrong, @user3502615.
constant acceleration?
Did you say constant acceleration?
yes
thats what he meant
Where?
Why did he mean that?
sorry i thought it was implied
00:51
NOOOOOOO
You broke Ted, dammit
You're as bad as he is.
but.. wait
NOOO
X^3, X^3+X^2, X^3+X^2+X, X^3+X^2+X+1, X^3+X, X^3+X^2+1 , X^3+X+1, and X^3+1 is all I can grab for polynomials in the form Ax^3+Bx^2+Cx+D oh wait a minute... I think I need to redo this since each letter can be set as 0 1 or 2
where did my life go wrong????
00:51
Right @usukidoll.
but $\vec{v}' = \vec{a}$, right???
how do you know about derivatives in 8th grade...
for velocity and acceleration vectors $\vec{v} and \vec{a}$
But $\vec a(t)$ can (and usually is) be a function of $t$.
yeah so
00:52
For example, the acceleration due to the earth's gravitational field far above the surface of the earth is not constant.
OK. My new phone knows when I'm looking at it and turns itself on. FREAKY
X. X when you sleep so late and can't even think lel
$\vec{v} = \int \vec{a} dt$ right?
I'm scared
and of course the integral of a constant acceleration would be.... linear velocity??
00:53
@user3502615 Not quite
You're solving an ODE, you have to make sure the boundary conditions are correct
it's more than just an integral
Velocity is linear for constant acceleration, yes
ooh, take that, TEDDY
So A= 0 1 2 B = 0 1 2 C = 0 1 2 D= 0 1 2 x. X
But that's not what you said originally
00:54
what did i say?
i need to get a username
one second
@user3502615: I think you owe me a bit more respect than that.
you didn't say constant acceleration...
quickly loses patience
@TedShifrin i kid you.
~_~
Yesterday there was a lot of rain
00:57
@usukidoll: Of course they can't all be $0$. But, yeah, that's the count you did in the first place :P
@0celo7 i shouldve mentioned it. in the situation, he was talking about constant acceleration
huh? who are you
the twit just changed his name.
i have name-switched
because
5 out of 8 x^3 polynomials were irreducible
00:58
oh, I see
its hard to memorize my numbers
@TedShifrin twit?
@TedShifrin i've never been called a "twit" before. interesting
Ahahahahaha
@meow-mix Ted is old-fashioned like that
00:59
@usukidoll: For degrees up to 3, deciding irreducibility is easy. But in higher degrees you want to think about a generalization of the sieve of Erasthosthenes (for making a lit of prime numbers).
@TedShifrin Something must be working, my dad was in the mall all day today with my mom. That's not an easy task :)
@0celo7 Huh?
His back
Ohhhh, good.
We were talking about it last night
01:00
I go to the chiro/massage therapist in the morning. I hope they fix me before my 2 weeks of long drives.
long drives are the worst
Oh, I didn't think about that. He probably won't come to visit me now
I'm going home for Thanksgiving, that's a looooong drive to DC
a while back, when i visited my cousins in florida (keep in mind, i live in new jersey), i would have a 24 hour drive to them and back
They're in DC? Yeah, that's not too close.
I'm going to probably skip probability (ha) so I don't have to drive through 1AM...
01:04
as much as i love pens, doing math with pens is the worst
i dont even like pencils, i just use $\LaTeX$ instead :D
holy shit
i just saw this GIGANTIC spider
and so i get a shoe and try to kill it and the THING FUCKING FLINGS AT ME
THE THING CAN FLY
you're gonna get suspended if you don't tone it down
i apologize
01:44
Why are the solutions of the quadratic inequality x^2 + 8x + 16 >= 0 all real numbers? Is it because anything you plug in for x will make the inequality true?
@AndrewLi (x+4)^2 >= 0 is always true - a real number squared will be 0 or bigger
@arctictern anything?
@arctictern When x is any real right?
> a real number squared will be 0 or bigger
Ok
I have one more question
So is it possible to say that if an equation has one zero or no zeros that the inequality has infinite solutions?
01:56
@AndrewLi no
the solutions could be negative
but in that case your quadratic is a square
I'm having a really hard time understanding how to find the solutions to an inequality
so the solutions are automatically positive
Well yeah
@AndrewLi you draw the solution curve for =
you know how do do that, right?
With the inequality 0 > -2x^2 + 4x + 4, the zeros are -0.73 and 2.73
@0celo7 Of course
How do you determine what the solutions are?
01:58
to solve quadratic inequalities, you need to complete the square, then know how to split u^2>k and u^2<k up into parts
I need to?
I've been using the quadratic formula
Isn't it just to find the zeros?
quadratic formula, completing the square, same thing
Yeah
I get that you have to find the zeros of the parabola
So you try to find all x that satisfy the inequality right?
BTW, "how do I solve inequalities" is far, far more general than "how do I solve quadratic inequalities"
it's not a good idea to leave important context out of questions
Yeah, sorry
Why would an quadratic inequality such as -x^2 + 2x - 15 < 0 have all real numbers as solutions?
02:01
you can find the real zeros (assuming there are any), use the leading coefficient to determine if the parabola opens up or opens down, then use that to determine if you're doing an interval between the zeros or to the right and left of them
But what if no (real) zeros?
@AndrewLi that's -(x-1)^2<14
if no real zeros, then either all real numbers or no solutions
Ok. How would I tell?
by whether the graph opens up or down
e.g. if the graph opens up and there are no real zeros, then the whole parabola is above the x-axis, so all its values are positive
Ok
So -x^2 + 2x - 15 < 0 will always be true. I see that, but the graph has no real zeros and it opens down
Ohhhh
Nevermind. I got it
So if two solutions, check for or or and.
Thanks @arctictern!
02:34
@arctictern you were here last night, correct?
@arctictern I was curious if you knew of any functions other than constant or piece wise constant functions that always give a function in their set when composed together in any manner with each other.
02:52
@TheGreatDuck the identity?
03:08
[Random] Can we have probability dependent probability distributions, that is, the random variable is itself a probability of another random variable?
@Secret Yes.
Let $X:S\to\Bbb R$ be an r.v., then $W=g(X)$, where $g:\Bbb R\to\Bbb R$, is also an r.v.
It makes sense to talk about $f_W$, the pdf.
I see
But maybe that's not what you're asking?
You can compute $f_W$ in terms of $f_X$ btw.
Well it sounds right, If we restrict the measure g such that its range lies between 0 to 1, and is additive, then g will be a probability map
Thus W is in effect, a r.v that is also a probability because it obeys the probability axioms
Well the question is inspired because of wondering about something more general than the dynamics of quanutm mechanics. Since in quantum wavefunctions have a deterministic dynamics, thus the probability distribution will also be deterministic, it is not unreasonable to ask for generalisations where the wavefunction evolve stochastically, and such question on the existence of such pdf will be a good starting point for such investigations
03:26
hey @0celo7 here ?
yes
want to discuss something in differential geometry
so why is X a complex manifold ?
so I read somewhere that if an action is free if all the stabilizers acting on an element x is trivial.
to be discussed later dude
I just added an analysis (meta.math.stackexchange.com/questions/21259/…) of an existing answer on the distrubition of reputation scores. Anyone care to give it a look to see if my conclusions are correct? I think I spotted an error in the previous, highly voted, answer, but I could be wrong.
when you quotient a manifold by a free and properly discontinuous group action, you get a manifold on the other end
I can never remember all the criteria for such things though
03:31
I see
you could check Lee
but hopefully that book will explain it
yeah I will check lee
@Adeek do you have do Carmo?
yeah
page 22/23 contains what you want.
03:34
okay awesome
he doesn't mention it there but you need the action to be free so that your quotient is Hausdorff, iirc
Differential Geometry of Curves and Surfaces ?
Riemannian
okay
I see
@Adeek Page 548 in Lee.
and the following
03:37
rhanks a lot @0celo7
okay that is exactly what I want nice.
hm
why is that true what he wrote [1/2,1]
what?
@0celo7 we are quotienting by $\mathbb{Z}$ right ?
so we have $\mathbb{C}^n / \mathbb{Z}$
then [v] = [v + n] for any integer n.
why $[v] = [v + \frac{1}{2}]$
what claim exactly?
03:47
Atiyah just posted a six page paper claiming to prove S^6 has no complex structure.
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@0celo7 To see this we observe bla bla is surjective with $(v,1)$ and $(v,1/2)$ mapping to same point
@MikeMiller that is amazing
I wonder how such proofs work to prove it can't have complex structure
here's the paper, for convenience: arxiv.org/abs/1610.09366
amazing
@MikeMiller I don't have the tools to evaluate/understand that paper, but I'm struck by how short it is
@MikeM: Wow, Atiyah must be more than 90 now. Amazing ...
03:55
My first thought was, "He's alive?"
I was gonna say he is 90 and proved unsolved problem
amazing
born in 1929
so 87. not far off
I mean, it's six pages. So when I get home I can probably just read it.
yeah.
I mean, it uses terminology that I'm not in a position to grasp, e.g. K-theory and KR-theory
Most is history. One page of my download is blacked out. I'll try again. I definitely don't know all the tools.
04:56
hey @0celo7
this should be rank n right ?
it should be n not m right
Rank is dimension of the image. The dimension of the image should be m.
oh ok
here where what is the values does j goes from and k ? it is $1 <= j < m$ and $1<= k <= n$?
?
yeah that is correct that is the values and $j$ and $k$ takes.
05:30
I'm showing $0\rightarrow\mathbb C^*\rightarrow\mathcal O^*\xrightarrow{\alpha}\Omega\rightarrow0$ is exact.
But I'm having trouble showing $\alpha$ is surjective.
The underlying manifold is $1$-dimensional and complex.
06:10
@MikeMiller Pretty cool. Wish I could read that.
 
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07:21
$g^{-1}(f(g(a),g(b)))=f(a,b)$?
07:59
ok doesnt hold
08:19
@AlexClark Cool, I will send you an email when I have the code ready. The current version can be sped up by something like a factor 5 I think and it would be a waste of time to run it before doing that.
@MikeMiller Sounds interesting :)
09:16
Took me ~1hr to digest this paragraph
I am so bad at tracking the behaviour of morphisims
09:28
@Secret What is this from? It seems terrible to read
https://i.sstatic.net/DOBFe.png
You need to ask MAFIA, it is something he is reading about group theory
09:58
I want to understand why a diffeomorphism $f \colon M \to M$ with $f^p = id_M$ for an odd prime $p$ is orientation-preserving, what definition of orientation(preserving) is best for this?
@abenthy Hmm, the only other possibility is that it is orientation reversing, isn't it?
so this is really just the statement that $(-1)^n = -1$ when $n$ is odd.
10:15
so the composition of orientation-reversing diffeomorphisms is orientation-reversing again?
no, the composition of an odd number of them is
10:41
Oh yes, I think this makes sense because a diffeomorphism $f \colon M \to M$ is orientation-reversing iff for every $p \in M$, the map $d_pf \colon T_pM \to T_{f(p)}M$ maps a positively oriented base to a negatively oriented base.
Is the set of fixed points $F = \{ x \in M : f(x) = x \}$ orientable if $f$ preserves the orientation?
11:07
@abenthy As Tobias said, look at the degree of the diffeomorphism. If it's orientation reversing, degree would have been $-1$, so $(-1)^p = -1$. That's not the degree of the identity map.
@BalarkaSen Yeah I thought about this, but are degrees defined for non-compact manifolds?
I gave the counterexample to the wrong question, sorry.
@abenthy Maybe you can think about compactly supported cohomology.
Oh yeah that seems to work :) Nice
Interesting question about the fixed point set. I don't know how to answer that, but I am skeptic.
$F = \phi^{-1}(\Delta)$, where $\phi \colon M \to M \times M, x \mapsto (x,f(x))$ and $\Delta$ the diagonal.
11:23
Yeah, but how are you going to incorporate the information $f^p = \text{id}$ to that?
Note that $p$ being odd is important. I can give you counterexamples for $p = 2$.
Maybe $\phi$ is orientation-preserving because $f$ is, and so $F$ is orientable somehow?...
In a paper I read "If $p$ is odd, then the $\mathbb{Z}/p\mathbb{Z}$-action is orientation-preserving, so that the fixed-point set is orientable." without further explanation.
Ah, yeah, maybe my involution counterexample is not orientation preserving.
Your logic sounds right. $\phi$ is transverse to $\Delta$, is orientation-preserving, so preimage should be orientable.
user228700
@DHMO: I have a quick homework-tsy question about parabolas.
user228700
I've been asked to find the equation of a parabola whose vertex is at the origin and the equation of its direction is $x+y=2$. I figured it out, but the answer isn't correct :/ I found $a=\sqrt{2}$. Then, using the fact that the focus of this parabola is at a distance of $\sqrt{2}$ units from the vertex and $2sqrt\2$ units from the directrix, I found two equations to find the coordinates of the focus but I'm not obtaining real roots :/
user228700
If I find the coordinates of the focus, since I already know the equation of the directrix, I can find out the equation of the parabola...
11:34
@BalarkaSen which theorem are you refering to here about the transversality?
user228700
@DHMO: Also, I've done all this only because from the equation of the directrix, it is clear that this parabola is not a standard parabola and will be tilted w.r.t the coordinate axes.
user228700
I've also been asked to find the length of the latus rectum of this parabola, and this is given by $4a$, so I get $4\sqrt2$, which matches the answer given in my textbook.
user228700
So Ik the value of $a$ is correct...
user228700
Thoughts?
@abenthy If $f : M \to N$ is transverse to $W \subset N$, everything is orientable and $f$ is orientation preserving, then $f^{-1}(W)$ is orientable. I believe this is because pullback of the normal bundle of $W$ is the normal bundle of $f^{-1}(W)$ in $M$, and pulling back the orientation on the normal bundle of $W$ gives an orientation on the normal bundle of $f^{-1}(W)$.
Since $M$ is orientable, that gives a bundle-orientation on the tangent bundle of $f^{-1}(W)$.
11:41
Wow, that looks nice. Thank you.
Not clear that $\phi$ is transverse to $\Delta$ though.
I think it might have something to do with the other assumptions in the article, but then its not good written I think :/
I'll again advice you to ask it somewhere else, or wait for other people to come :)
I'm a bit brain-dead to think about it clearly.
11:58
Thanks, I have asked a question on SE: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1992912/…
12:25
@abenthy By the way, the earlier approach is void. There is a involution on $\Bbb{CP}^2$ with fixed point set $\Bbb{RP}^2$: just complex conjugate coordinatewise. This is also orientation preserving.
So that your diffeomorphism has odd order is more important than it being orientation preserving.
@abenthy Check out Guillemin & Pollack's book for how to induce orientations on the preimage.
That's not his question
54 mins ago, by Balarka Sen
@abenthy If $f : M \to N$ is transverse to $W \subset N$, everything is orientable and $f$ is orientation preserving, then $f^{-1}(W)$ is orientable. I believe this is because pullback of the normal bundle of $W$ is the normal bundle of $f^{-1}(W)$ in $M$, and pulling back the orientation on the normal bundle of $W$ gives an orientation on the normal bundle of $f^{-1}(W)$.
abenthy replied "wow that looks nice"
Guillemin & Pollack do it
doesn't sound relevant if that approach doesn't work, which it probably doesn't.
It's still interesting.
What is your beef with me giving a reference for something that "looks nice"?
12:35
I am not going to waste time arguing
12:51
Hello.
Good morning, @Mahmoud
Actually, it's probably afternoon where you are
Guys what's the name of the mathematical field that formalizes functions.
@teadawg1337 Thanks $:)$ It's 12:52
Good whatever time of day you're in @teadawg1337 $:)$
@Mahmoud Set theory I would guess
$f: E \to F$ Things like this @TobiasKildetoft
@Mahmoud yes, formally that is a certain type of set
12:55
Can you give me the formal name of this study ?
It is just set theory
(naive set theory)
Okay thank you @TobiasKildetoft but what do we call it ?
what do you mean? There is no name for that particular little bit of set theory itself
If want to learn more about this what do I google ? For example.
google the definition of "function"
13:00
Alright It wasn't that fancy to have a name anyway.
Thank you @TobiasKildetoft It was mentioned in a set theory book as you said (Naive Set Theory) By Halmos, Paul, R
13:29
Hi I have a simple question, for a normal definite integral can you always reverse the limits of integration?
Upto a sign, yes
Even if one of the limits is infinity right? You just multiply a negative one to the integral to reverse the limits?
Yes, whenever the indefinite integral makes sense.
Thanks! @BalarkaSen if I could give you rep here in chat I would've already done so.
Atiyah has submitted a proof that $S^6$ is not complex!! See here.
13:42
Mike said so earlier this morning.
Oh, damn
Interesting!!
It's sorta exciting, but I don't understand any of the ideas involved in the proof, so...
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Q: Having trouble getting continuous $u(x,t)$ for $2u_{x}+u_{t}=0$

Jessy CatI am trying to solve the following initial boundary-value problem for the constant-coefficient, first-order wave equation: $2u_{x}+u_{t} = 0$, $x>0$, $t>0$ I.C.: $u(x,0)= \begin{cases} x-1, & 0<x<1 \\ 1, & x\geq 1 \end{cases}$ B.C.: $u(0,t)=0$, $t>0$ Since $a = 2$, $f(x) = \begin{...

If anyone could help me, that would be great. But, hints and rhetorical questions will not be a whole lot of help right now
@BalarkaSen I'm excited anyways :D :P
When writing proofs where there is a set of defined characteristics to meet, how do you chose an f and g? For instance, additive property for a function defined as p(x) mapsto p(a)-p(0).
14:40
@Aksel'sRose I have no idea what you are trying to ask there.
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A: How to determine if a function is a linear functional.

EffConsider your example, i.e. $V = C([0,1])$, and the functional $f\mapsto \max\limits_{x\in[0,1]}\{f(x)\}$. To be precise, the functional which we may call $L$, is a function $L:V\to \mathbb{R}$ and is defined by $$Lf = \max\limits_{x\in[0,1]}\{f(x)\}.$$ Consider the functions $f,g\in V$ defined ...

see the comment on the first answer
This room is really full right now.
@TobiasKildetoft sorry realized I didnt reply to you. math.stackexchange.com/questions/1992318/…

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