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user227867
20:03
Hello @pedro.
20:15
Hello, mister.
20:29
Hi @BalarkaSen
how are you.
By the way, I am trying to prove the following. Suppose $A \subset X$, if we define the boundary by the equation $Bd(A) = \bar{A} \cap \bar{X - A}$
(a)Show that $\bar{A} = Int A \cup Bd(A)$.

Here is my proof so far. It is easy to see that $\bar{A} \subset Int(A) \cup Bd(A)$, so we will do the converse. Let $x \in \bar{A}$. Every neighborhood $U_x \cap A \neq \emptyset$. If $U_x \cap A = U_x$, then $U_x \subset A \implies U_x \subset Int(A) \implies x \in Int(A)$. If $U_x \cap A \neq U_x$, then $U_x = (U_x \cap A) \cup (U_x - A)$. If $x \notin A \implies x \in U_x - A \subset X - A \subset
$\bar{X - A} = Cl(X - A)$.
I don't know why it doesn't put a big line over X - A.
use \overline{}
\bar{} will look the same size no matter what you put it over
@Adeek All you need is to show boundary points are contained in the closure. But this follows from definition.
20:41
Wait a second. You say "$\bar{A} \subset \text{int} A \cup \partial A$ is obvious so we will prove the converse", then why do you start with $x \in \bar{A}$? You should start with an $x \in \text{int} A \cup \partial A$.
I am not asking about the $\bar{A} \subset (Int(A) \cup \overline{X - A}$
thanks @arctictern
@Adeek I know.
I am sorry
I meant to say the other way is obvious.
I am asking about the $\bar{A} \subset int(A) \cup \partial{A}$
I showed part of the argument above.
Then what is your definition of closure? Any answer to that will invariably depend on your definition of closure.
(There are multiple definitions of closure of a set)
Ah, collection of all points whose nbhds in $X$ always intersect $A$, yeah?
yeah
well, I am using this as a theorem. I thought it would be easier to prove this using the theorem than the definition of the closure as being the intersection of all closed sets containing A.
20:48
You're quite right, your argument is also on the right track. Let me see what your particular issue is.
At the end of the argument if I show that $x \in Int(A)$, then I would be done. But, I am confused how can I achieve that.
@Jasper Do you know Springer made a ton of texts available for free?
really @PedroTamaroff ???
@Adeek Why are you partitioning into two cases: $x \in A$ and $x \notin A$? That is unnecessary: as you said, $U_x$ either (1) hits $A$ entirely, in which case it's an interior point (2) hits both $A$ and $X - A$, in which case it's a boundary point (3) hits $X - A$ entirely, which is impossible as $x \in \bar{A}$ by assumption (and the defn of closure you're using).
user227867
@PedroTamaroff Nope. I still prefer paper books. =)
user227867
20:52
@PedroTamaroff Can you give an example or link?
Thus, $x$ is in $\text{int}{A} \cup \partial A$, case (3) being void.
Case closed, @Adeek.
What else is there to be said?
just a sec @BalarkaSen let me read what you said.
@PedroTamaroff They pulled the plug just a couple days later, I think.
Probably was a technical glitch, or whoever did it was drunk at that time.
20:55
A hero without a name.
Unsung. :)
user227867
@PedroTamaroff Yeah, most books I search for are still not free, even the PDF files.
I see yeah your right @BalarkaSen
did some of the books become available at least on the internet @PedroTamaroff ?
Thanks @BalarkaSen
@Adeek No problem, you did it all by yourself. I just cleaned up so that you could realize that you solved the problem :P
yeah haha
20:58
Arright, I am watching a movie, talk later.
cya later
btw you should watch
just a sec I watched a really cool anime movie yesterday
it is very cool let me get the name
Summer wars 2009
very nice movie
Not a fan of unrealistic anime, tbh.
it is actually pretty cool it talks about AI
@Adeek Yes, those download links worked.
It is not unrealistic at all. It's plot is mainly is that japan developed a virtual reality game like Pokemon, but people use it as well to store their bank account and personal belonging in it. Then, somebody developed a AI which hacked into this virtual reality game and caused chaos.
cool @PedroTamaroff
@PedroTamaroff a quick search reveals some of the leaked books :D
pretty cool ahaha
21:05
Yep. I guess most university libraries have a good deal of Springer GMTs, though.
Yeah but still I prefer actually books on my laptop over real books.
it iss easier to take note and read faster on a laptop in my opinion.
user227867
@PedroTamaroff GTM, not GMT.
21:32
What's a Springer GTM?
Hey all :)
user227867
The GTM series: Graduate Texts In Mathematics
@Jasper of course the PDF's cost :P
you can easily access them via your university's network though
user227867
@syzygy Unless they are from an obscure Russian server. =)
yeah true
but i prefer it via springer link / shibboleth
is easier, the download speed from these russian server is sually very bad
user227867
@syzygy It's good if you find the right mirror. =)
user227867
23:31
@syzygy I don't belong to a university. I am only a banana.
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