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08:04
Well, it is way too hot to be sitting on a laptop. Later fellas.
08:22
Calculus is fun.
Huy
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drinking coffee is relaxing
how do you take it, @Huy
Huy
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neat
like I take my whisky
which is also very relaxing, but more of an evening activity.
you're posting very general nonsense facts
08:25
give a concrete example
I take my coffee black as midnight on a moonless night
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very good
whiskey preferably out of a box, if only because my friend has boxes you can drink whisky out of
lol, that doesn't make any sense
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why do you write whiskey and whisky in the same sentence for the same thing
08:27
phone autocorrect
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throw it away
meh
Americans can take the e or leave it
it's a personal choice though
in the same token Americans can take the d or leave it
 
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11:12
Could someone of you take a look at the edit part of my question:
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Q: Conformal reparametrization

Mary StarWe consider $$\sigma (u,v)=(f(u)\cos v, f(u)\sin v, g(u))$$ Picking $u=\theta , v=\phi , f(\theta )=\cos \theta , g(\theta )=\sin \theta$ we get that the first fundamental form is $$d\theta^2+\cos^2 \theta \phi^2$$ I have found a smooth function $\psi$ such that the reparametrization $\tilde{\...

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12:56
@Chantry I recommend Blogger. Haven't looked back.
13:07
@DanielFischer @robjohn Could one of you delete my Springer post (in chat) that has been starred? All books have been retracted, and someone on Reddit states that the authors did not give permission to Springer to put those .pdfs out originally.
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@Clarinetist: Link (to the reddit claim)?
I have a feeling they must've made a huge mistake, but it's pretty clear that news of this spread all over social media
Hi. Can someone help me with: $$\Sigma_1^\infty \frac{1}{2^{\ln n}}$$
Can I prove divergence with the lim comparison test?
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@Clarinetist: rather funny seing a prof. with his top submissions being in r/drunk
@Huy Lol. Idk. I think it's kinda strange that they just retracted them
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13:15
someone must have screwed up really badly if it's true
Yeah, this isn't something to take lightly, especially given the scope of what happened. This wasn't limited to just math texts.
@eontorch can you show that that is equal to $$\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac1{n^{\log(2)}}$$?
Why are they equal?
oh
@robjohn and then use the comparison test?
@eontorch or just the $p$-test
$p=\log(2)\le1$
thanks!
13:38
Someone willing to help me? Ty
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Q: Proving Bellman operator is a contraction

AlessandroI know that Bellman operator, defined as $T(f(x))=\sup_y {\phi(x,y)+\beta f(y)}$, is a contraction provided that $\beta\in(0,1)$ and $\phi$ is a bounded function on $Gr\Gamma$. In order to prove this result I was trying to use Blackwell Theorem which states that an operator $T:B(X)\rightarrow B...

Hello. I am confused about the following formula $\nabla_{X}fY= f\nabla_X Y + X(f)Y$. This is one of the properties for an affine connection. I don't understand what $X(f)$ stands for. See here math.stackexchange.com/questions/1084302/… for all relevant definitions of terms.
@StanShunpike $X(f)$ is the function you get by differentiating $f$ in direction $X$, equivalently, applying the vector field $X$ to the function $f$. If you are comfortable with differential forms, knowing that it can also be expressed as $df(X)$ may help. We have $X(f)(p) = X_p(f) = df_p(X_p)$.
@DanielFischer is $\nabla$ the covariant derivative?
13:53
@StanShunpike Yes.
@BenjaminR you can now open gists in mathedit:
http://kasperpeulen.github.io/mathedit/#/gist/c7c871c1908461c36512
@DanielFischer ok, makes sense I think, thanks!
@DanielFischer wait, why can't I just leave it as $(\nabla_X f)Y$?
Do I have to write it as $X(f) Y$?
@StanShunpike If you have the covariant derivative defined to act not only on vector fields but on functions too, then you can also write it as $\nabla_X f$. But $X(f)$ is the more primitive notion, hence often it's preferable to use that.
Doesn't the covariant derivative have to be able to act on functions in order to write $X(f)$? After all, you just stated $X(f)$ is obtained by differentiating $f$ in the direction $X$, so doesn't that imply the covariant derivative can act on functions?
@DanielFischer ^
@StanShunpike No, to define the covariant derivative, you need to know how vector fields act on functions. That's $X(f)$. In one definition of the tangent space of a manifold at a point [as a space of derivations], the action of tangent vectors on (germs of) functions is (part of) the definition of tangent vectors.
14:06
Interesting.
Will have to study that more carefully
@DanielFischer I have a soft question regarding identifying research places in US. May I ask you please?
@Mambo You can ask, but I know [for all practical purposes] nothing about research places in US.
I want to pursue PhD in harmonic analysis. I prefer places where it is done more of a functional analytic approach rather than measure theoretic.
How does one guess from professor's interests?
@DanielFischer May I ask what do you do?
@Mambo No idea. You could ask one of your professors doing analysis. They might know.
@Mambo Next, I'm going to bake a cake ;)
@DanielFischer lol I didn't mean that. I guess you are a professor!
14:26
@Clarinetist huh.
Hello everyone
that's complete nonsense. why did they put it up in the first place.
Hi everyone
@BalarkaSen Are you presently studying topology?
I look at this exercise of A. Pressley:

Show that the Gaussian and mean curvatures of a surface S are smooth functions on $S$.


I did this:

We consider that $S$ is smooth, so also its parametrization $\sigma$.

Having that $\sigma$ is smooth, its partial derivatives of all orders are continuous.

So $$ E=\|\sigma_u\|^2, \ F=\sigma_u \cdot \sigma_v, \ G=\|\sigma_v\|^2, \ L=\sigma_{uu}\cdot \mathbf{N}, \ M=\sigma_{uv}\cdot \mathbf{N}, \\ N=\sigma_{vv}\cdot \mathbf{N}, \ \mathbf{N}=\frac{\sigma_u \times \sigma_v}{\|\sigma_u \times \sigma_v\|}$$ are smooth functions.
I just finished another amazing (well, it wouldn't be fair to use other word than 'amazing') generalization.
14:36
@SwapnilDas Yes.
Looks like I'm not the only one working at the very end of the year. After all taking breaks is a luxury I cannot afford at the moment.
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@DanielFischer: just out of curiousity, is it ok for SE users to use (frequently) multiple accounts? I assume it's ok unless one tries to use multiple accounts to circumvent suspensions and similar?
@Huy unless you break SE rules, it's fine. anon is well-known for multiple +10k accounts.
Huy
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STOP USING WELL-KNOWN IF SOMEONE DOESN'T KNOW
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Jul 23 '14 at 11:09, by anon
I will farm an army of 10k+ers and take over as supreme leader.
@Huy but that's the point of using well known!!
you have to use it when you know something, but others don't.
that is, the well known facts are precisely the not well known facts
Well, although I disliked some things and had contradictory discussions, I think that anon has the profile of a peaceful person.
I don't think anything written above can be consider more than a joke, or just simple statements. People say all kind of things all the time.
Anyway.
15:22
hi guys, anyone here that has time to test out some little feature of an online math editor?

I'm trying to test if saving and sharing works on different platforms
for example, can you see this math snippet:
http://kasperpeulen.github.io/mathedit/#/gist/c7c871c1908461c36512
and if you change it and save it with ctrl+k, do you get a new sharing link?
@Balarka: How do you prove the inverse function theorem?
@Kasper IE11, saving does not work
@Kasper Very nifty though. One thing I noticed is that \implies does not work
okay, thanks for testing @Clarinetist will try to fix IE
about \implies, maybe I forget to load some mathjax extensions I guess, will look at it
issues are getting tracked here:
https://github.com/kasperpeulen/mathedit/issues
@Kasper Saving is fine on Chrome 47.0.2526.106 (the most current one).
@MikeMiller Here's a minor modification of the proof of IVT in Ted's book I did. $f : U \subset \Bbb R^n \to \Bbb R^n$ be a $C^1$ function, $x \in U$ be a point such that $Df(x)$ is invertible. We want to prove there is a nbhd $V \subset U$ of $x$ such that $f$ has a $C^1$ inverse.
WLOG, assume $x = f(x) = 0$ and $Df(0) = I$ by scaling $f(x)$ by $Df(0)^{-1}f(x)$.
15:35
thanks for letting me now @Clarinetist
@Kasper \dfrac also doesn't work
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@Kasper: Did you ever release your Euclid game?
$f$ is $C^1$, hence there is an $r > 0$ such that $x \in B_r(0)$ implies $||Df(x) - I||\leq 1/2$. Fix $y$ with $||y|| \leq r/2$, and define $\varphi : \Bbb R^n \to \Bbb R^n$ by $\varphi(x) = x - f(x) + y$.
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Q: How should sockpuppets be handled on Stack Exchange?

Won'tSo a high-reputation, highly-active user has already been dinged once for a sockpuppet, and I just dinged him again. He probably has another sockpuppet as well. What are the guidelines for handling users who game the system in this fashion? Specifically, How can I be sure I'm looking at a soc...

@Kasper Just brief QA testing (bunch of previous posts I've posted on MSE) hasn't led to any more problems
15:42
Note that $||\varphi(x)|| \leq ||x - f(x)|| + ||y|| \leq r/2 + r/2 = r$, thus $\varphi$ restricted to $B_r(0)$ is a map $B_r(0) \to B_r(0)$. Also, if $x, y \in \text{cl} B_r(0)$, then we see $||\varphi(x) - \varphi(y)|| \leq 1/2||x - y||$, so $\varphi$ is actually a contraction mapping.
You keep saying IVT... what's that mean?
InVerse function Theorem :P
IFT can be ambiguous, as it also means Implicit Function Theorem.
facepalm I thought Intermediate Value Theorem! xP
right... so did I...
The two IFTs are almost exactly the same so there's only minor harm from confusion.
Anyway, go ahead.
Ok, $\varphi$ is a contraction mapping for every $||y|| \leq r/2$, so there is a fixed point $x_y$ for $\varphi$. Thus, define $g : B_{r/2}(0) \to f^{-1}(B_{r/2}(0)) \cap B_r(0)$ (I hope my domains and codomains are right) by $f(y) = x_y$. I claim this is the $C^1$ local inverse for $f$.
15:48
Fine. The rest is standard and pretty easy.
Well, assuming it's $C^1$, it's clear why $f$ is a local inverse for $g$.
Now the lemma is that previous thing I asked you about today.
The hardest part by hard is the set-level inverse. Once you get that, slight manipulation of formulae gives you that it's $C^1$, or $C^k$ if the original function is $C^k$.
@Balarka: Should be easier than that. But no worry.
I want you to look at the first part of this theorem and tell me precisely what you needed to prove it.
That is, if $F : U \times V \subset \Bbb R^{n+k} \to \Bbb R^n$ is a function such that $F(-, y)$ is a contraction mapping for all $y \in V$, then $g : V \to \Bbb R^n$ sending $Y$ to the fixed pt of $F(-, y)$, then $g$ is $C^1$. This is a direct application of Banach fixed point theorem.
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IVT for inverse function theorem? really?
@MikeMiller Yeah, I guess it is, but I find working with $\varphi$ messier than the proving this more general thing and be done.
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15:51
and here I was wondering what the hell that proof had to do with the intermediate value theorem
@MikeMiller Yep, the construction of $\varphi$ is tricky. I could never have thought of it.
@Huy
It is getting approved for the app store
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ok
@Clarinetist thanks!
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still no plans for a native android version?
15:54
not anytime soon
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ok, too bad
@Huy: me too
Actually, I skipped some subtlety up there. $\varphi$ is a contraction mapping on $\text{cl} B_r(0)$, and it's not entirely clear why it has fixed points inside the interior of $B_r(0)$. But this can be done anyway.
@Balarka: You saw my request?
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@MikeMiller: u wat m8?
ah I guess you meant the IVT business
15:55
Yes, but I am not sure what you mean by "precisely what I need"
@huy fine. InvFT then.
Ah, well perhaps you're hopeless. :)
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@MikeMiller just downloaded some Lynch and Lunch movies btw. maybe I can see them soon
@Balarka: "Your notation sucks!"
@MikeMiller ... confused.
@Huy: Lunch? As in naked lunch?
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15:58
yes
Director is cronmeberg
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I know
cronenberg
oh.
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hence Lynch and Lunch, not just Lynch
There's this one story they tell near the end there
About a talking body part
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15:59
omg
It's always stuck with me
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stop spoiler
chewie eats luke
@Balarka: I can either tell you what I mean (which answers the question) or you can try to figure it out. Given the questions you pose to others I figure you would want to do the latter.
I don't pose vague questions. But I'll try to figure out what you mean.
Oh, I think you mean how the function $f$ should be like. $f$ has to be continuously differentiable with continuous derivative. This is necessary and sufficient.
Sure. State the theorem for me.
16:08
Well, $f : U \subset \Bbb R^n \to \Bbb R^n$ be a function, continuously differentiable with continuous derivative at $a \in U$, and $Df(a)$ is invertible. Then there is nbhd $V \subset U$ of $a$ where $f$ has a inverse which is continuously differentiable and has continuous derivative.
I think this suffices.
There are a few assumptions here. One is that $Df$ is invertible; relaxing this gets you implicit. There is an assumption here you have not brought up at all, yet, though.
I am not quite sure what other assumptions there are. The continuously differentiable with continuous derivative assumption is there because - intuitively - then $f$ would be monotonically increasing around $a$ which guarantees inverse (at least in one dimensional case).
Well, let me know when you figure out what other assumption is there.
Ah, nevermind, I get it, I think.
$Df$ needs to be invertible not only at $a$, but at every point in $U$, I think.
Not interesting. You're correct but $Df$ is continuous so at $a$ implies invertible locally.
16:20
Ah, of course. Darn.
Sorry, I have no idea what other condition there might be. I checked the book to make sure I am not being silly, but I am not seeing any more condition there.
Probably I am being dumb.
I mean, there's only so many words in what you gave me. If you've eliminated all of them but a few, then whatever's left...
Oh, by the way, I just meant "differentiable with continuous derivative" up there. Typo.
$f$ is $C^1$, and $Df$ invertible at $a \in U$. I really don't see what other assumptions there could be.
Oh well.
16:37
@robjohn could you take again a look at my question: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1587786/… ? I edited it...
@MikeMiller Inverse function theorem also says that if $g$ is that local inverse, then $Dg$ is the inverse for $Df$ at the tangent space level, but I guess that's not what you were referring to. For one, that's not an assumption on $f$, it's just a property of $g$ which is quite straightforward to prove.
@Balarka: I was referring to something in your original statement of the theorem.
I would just say it but after this dance I think you would be annoyed if I did so. :)
So very confused. $U$ is of course open up there, but that is clear from context.
@MikeMiller Maybe you might know how to do this?
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Q: Necessary and Sufficient Conditions for a CDF

ClarinetistThis is an attempt to prove Theorem 1.5.3. in Casella and Berger. Recall for a random variable $X$, we define $$F_X(x) = \mathbb{P}(X \leq x)\text{.}$$ Theorem. $F$ is a CDF iff: $\lim\limits_{x \to -\infty}F(x) = 0$ $\lim\limits_{x \to +\infty}F(x) = 1$ $F$ is nondecreasing. Fo...

Warmer...
@Clarinetist: I can't do much to answer questions that require a lot of TeX, sorry.
16:47
K no problem
Is that all? $U$ is open?
No. You're still cold.
But you're no longer freezing.
Nice result. Will need to read this when I get home.
There are only so many words and symbols...
...and there's some you still haven't mentioned.
I am being too stupid today, I guess. I can't figure it out.
17:00
I don't know why you don't just shoot wildly. There are only so many words and I have been glad to tell you when you're wrong. You'd be right before long. But if you want I huess I can say.
If $f : U \subset \Bbb R^n \to \Bbb R^n$ is a $C^1$ function such that $Df(a)$ is invertible for some $a \in U$, then $f$ is a local homeomorphism at $a$, that's all the IFT says, right? I am not sure if there's any implicit assumption here.
Yes.
I think the assumption is explicit enough, given that it's written down right there.
(Also, no, it says $f$ is a local diffeomorphism at $a$. The inverse is differentiable.)
Right, whoops, local diffeomorphism.
We have the following corollary:
Well, rank of $Df(a)$ is $n$ but that's just a restatement of invertibility.
17:13
You've exhausted everything but the thing I'm actually looking for.
When we say that they have the same first fundamental form, do we mean that $E_1=E_2$, $F_1=F_2$ and $G_1=G_2$ ?
@DanielFischer do you have an idea?
Ok, so something about $f$. It's $C^1$, i.e., continuously differentiable in $U$. I do not think there's any assumption on $U$.
lol. I think I give up.
It essentially means $f$ is monotonically increasing in $U$.
I'd like to give up too.
That makes no sense.
Your function is defined on a subset of $\Bbb R^n$. That's what I was pointing out.
What do you need for your theorem? You need a vector space with a notion of differentiability. You need a norm. And, lastly, you need the unit ball to be complete.
17:19
Oh, that was what you were saying. Ah.
So... what have I just described?
So IFT works for normed vector spaces with a complete (i.e., every converging sequence is Cauchy) ball in general?
uh, differentiability.
Oh, but there's this Frechet thing I know exists.
So you're looking for a complete normed space. ;)
Frechet means completely metrizable TVS. But there are points in the theorem where you need to pull a scalar out of the norm, or invoke the triangle inequality. IFT is false without serious modifications for Frechet spaces.
Hm, ok. So what is the general statement?
(I would never have been able to answer your question. $U$ being a subset of $\Bbb R^n$ is so clear an assumption I would have ignored it)
The statement you just said of the IFT is exactly the same for Banach spaces. The statement doesn't chane. The proof doesn't change.
17:28
Interesting, I guess. And by Frechet thing, I actually meant Frechet derivative, not Frechet spaces.
I'd never have thought of this abstraction, if I think about it. I'd have thought IFT is solely a property of $\Bbb R^n$. Thanks for this.
It comes right out of looking at a proof. You need a derivative, sure, but the key thing is that you need the unit ball to be complete. Not compact.
I don't know what the Frechet derivstive is off the top of my head.
Oh. I would call that the derivative.
@Balarka: Trivial exercise to add on to something you said earlier. Let $V$ be a normed space with complete unit ball. Show that $V$ is complete.
18:00
@MaryStar There are two kinds of orthogonal matrices in $\mathbb{R}^3$: rotations ($\det(P)=1$) and rotations and a mirror ($\det(P)=-1$). Since we know that if $\det(P)=1$, we have $P(a\times b)=P(a)\times P(b)$. Thus, $-P(a\times b)=-(-P(a)\times-P(b))$. Thus, if $\det(P)=-1$, we have $P(a\times b)=-P(a)\times P(b)$
Therefore, $P(a\times b)=\det(P)P(a)\times P(b)$
@Huy: Am I being trolled?
To see what happens at the second fundamental form after the isometry, we have:

$$\tilde{L}=\tilde{\sigma}_{uu}\cdot \tilde{\textbf{N}}=P\sigma_{uu}\cdot \frac{\pm P (\sigma_u\times \sigma_v)}{\| \sigma_u \times \sigma_v\|}=\pm P \cdot P\sigma_{uu}\cdot \frac{\sigma_u\times \sigma_v}{\| \sigma_u \times \sigma_v\|}=\pm P \cdot P\cdot \sigma_{uu} \cdot \textbf{N}=\pm P \cdot P\cdot L$$

right?

To what is $P \cdot P$ equal? @robjohn
@MaryStar I don't know what all your terms are. Is $P$ a matrix? If so, then I have no idea what $P\cdot P$ means. How did you get the equation above if you don't know what $P\cdot P$ means?
The dot product usually results in a scalar, so how does one take the dot product with a scalar?
18:20
$P$ is an orthogonal matrix.

The second fundamental form is $Ldu^2+2MNdudv+Ndv^2$, where $L=\sigma_{uu}\cdot \textbf{N}$, $M=\sigma_{uv}\cdot \textbf{N}$, $L=\sigma_{vv}\cdot \textbf{N}$, where $\textbf{N}=\frac{\sigma_u\times\sigma_v}{\|\sigma_u\times\sigma_v\|}$.

So do we get $P\sigma_{uu}\cdot \frac{\pm P (\sigma_u\times \sigma_v)}{\| \sigma_u \times \sigma_v\|}=\pm P P\sigma_{uu}\cdot \frac{\sigma_u\times \sigma_v}{\| \sigma_u \times \sigma_v\|}$, not dot product but just the product of matrices?
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@MikeMiller trolled about what? On mobile
don't worry about it
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Ill check at home in around 30min
@MaryStar If $P$ is orthogonal, then $Pa\cdot Pb=(Pa)^TPb=a^TP^TPb=a^Tb=a\cdot b$
Why did Springer pull the free book thing? (gist.github.com/bishboria/8326b17bbd652f34566a)
18:34
@Clarinetist \implies etc. bug works now :)
@robjohn I got it!! Thanks a lot!! :-)
18:51
Thanks @Kasper, I will check it out later
hi @Clarinetist
@Lsonic See here.
I haven't heard any official word from Springer, but that's all I know
Hi @Lembik
@Clarinetist how things?
Doing well. I'm studying for qualifying exams
@Clarinetist I am very very slowly understanding differential entropy.. I think this is the next main hurdle to my understanding math.stackexchange.com/q/1590790/66307
@Clarinetist oh.. are you doing a phd? I am not sure what qualifying exams are
18:54
@Lembik Master's. Part of my stats degree requires that I pass two comprehensive exams to get the degree
@Clarinetist good luck!
Thanks
@Clarinetist maybe my question will be relevant somehow :)
@Lembik Sigh, I wish it was. I'm not very familiar with the idea, although I do understand the question. Have you tried stats.stackexchange.com? I would imagine there'd be someone helpful there
@Clarinetist I read fenix.tecnico.ulisboa.pt/downloadFile/3779571945128/… to at least have some idea about the relationship between differential and discrete entropy
18:56
@Lembik If asking here doesn't work for you, try [stats.stackexchange.com](stats.stackexchange.com)
@Clarinetist I haven't tried there.. I have found it is much less active than here at least with math people. But it's a good idea
@Clarinetist you and leonbloy are my two hopes here :)
It is, yeah. I wish it were more busy. Stats is so much fun
@Clarinetist re: my question.. is my confusion at least clear?
I mean, the entropy seems to be independent of the determinant!
Yeah, I understand the question, but I have like no background in entropy
leonbloy gave a nice answer here math.stackexchange.com/a/1592086/66307 but the multivariate case is still a mystery to me
@Clarinetist ok :(
18:59
Sorry. Every now and then, there are some smart probability people on here. Hopefully they're lurking
@Clarinetist I have a related pure probability question without the word entropy too :)
Sure, I can try it
What is it?
@Clarinetist it is simply this.. consider a 3 by n matrix $M$ and a random vector $v$ . The elements of $M$ and $v$ are from $\{-1,1\}$. What is the pmf of $Mv$?
$M$ is not random
@Clarinetist I feel that understanding that will actually resolve everything :)
@Lembik Well, I'm assuming the elements of $v$ are Bernoulli, so that you end up (when you take $Mv$) with a multivariable linear combination of Bernoullis
19:02
3 is the first mysterious case.. I understand 2 by n I think
@Clarinetist right exactly. However the elements of $Mv$ are not independent
@Clarinetist is it possible to write down the pmf do you think? It will be some function of $M$
if this is possible I will be very happy
@Lembik Nope, they're not. Without doing some $n$-dimensional summation and fiddling with CDFs, this question is pretty close to impossible to do, unfortunately. At least IMO. Someone might know something more
@Clarinetist hmm... even know which n-dimensional sums need to be done would be good. Should I just pose it as a question do you think?
@Lembik Was it you I sent this to? This might be helpful
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Q: How to show that two linear combinations of Bernoulli random variables have jointly Gaussian distribution (and more)

TOMLet $X_1,\ldots,X_n$ be independent Bernoulli random variables such that $\mathbb{P}(X_i=\pm 1)=1/2$ and consider two collections of real numbers $a_1,\ldots,a_n, b_1,\ldots, b_n$. For the moment let us just take $a_i=1$ and $b_i=i$. Write $X=\sum_{i=1}^{n}a_iX_i$ and $Y=\sum_{i=1}^{n}b_iX_i$. Qu...

@Clarinetist oh.. I don't think I fully got the significance of it though
@Clarinetist would you mind spelling it out in baby steps please.. I mean the significance to my question
@Lembik I don't either (when it comes to what I posted), but the comments have a hint which involves material I don't know at all
@Lembik Well, here's the thing. You don't have independence. That is a problem. Because the first thing that you're gonna need when you want to find the PMF of a bunch of variables is the joint PMF (or PDF in the continuous case).
19:07
@Clarinetist Oh I see. The thing is that it's not even that I want to prove something true currently.. it's that I don't even know what is vaguely true about my problem
@Lembik Yeah, I understand
@Clarinetist I have plotted some pretty pictures :)
which show the extent of my ignorance
Pretty pictures are always fun, especially probability/stats ones
Anyway, I'm gonna get back to my studying. Hope you find someone who can help you!
@Clarinetist oh before you go.. imgur.com/6VcI8Js is fun
@Clarinetist (the labels should both be about M, B is a typo)
it's for lots of 7 by 11 matrices
mysterious isn't it ? :)
@Clarinetist bye.. thanks for the chat
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19:27
@MikeMiller: I'm never sure about whether or not he's trolling. The more I see his mathematical questions, the more I believe he's actually that kind of guy who just always barely learns the notions and tools to apply whatever he needs them for and doesn't learn anything else. He knows a lot of GR but would probably not be able to do a simple linear algebra or real analysis proof.
19:39
@DanielFischer Hi!!! I am evinda... I am trying to log in at my account but then at my profile it says MaryStar... MaryStar is my sister but we are not the same person... Could I have again my account , please ?
@Huy: That makes sense. I probably just won't engage.
Huy
Huy
@MikeMiller: really frustrating to watch as a mathematician sometimes.
and there's those guys who are like "I've never seen functional analysis or measure theory being applied anywhere and I'm a professional physicist so it's just useless maths"
:(
@Huy I assume it was your idea since we both asked about differential geometry, right?
Well... if they say so...
Huy
Huy
@evinda: I asked the other day if you were that new user and you said no. I never said anything about you and Mary Star here? Even though I did have that thought, yes.
19:54
@Huy I can somewhat sympathize with that statement, in that time is a finite thing and there's math which, for certain purposes, is therefore just not a useful investment
Huy
Huy
@Semiclassical: "useless for me" is something different than saying "useless entirely", plus that same guy was in the maths chat asking about a formula containing the delta distribution and probably still doesn't understand how to prove it
but there's a difference between "not useful for me" and "not useful at all"
@Huy Aw, he seemed nice enough.
what kind've question?
Huy
Huy
yea, but he didn't really care about the measure theoretic approach
he just wanted a solution where $\delta(x)$ was a "function"
19:55
@Huy Me and MaryStar , we were doing the exercises together in differential geometry and that's why we both asked... lately I was just asking about optimization and MaryStar about dif... because I am studying now for the exams...
@Semiclassical The existence of finite time is something that really has been bothering me lately.
Especially finite breaks.
escape in finite time stuff?
Huy
Huy
@MaryStar: ok, you don't have to explain me, I never asked. I just thought you might be the same person.
@DanielFischer So will I ( evinda ) not get my account back?
Yes, @Semiclassical, the amount of reading I have to do before I meet with my advisor seems to escape to infinity in finite time.
19:57
snerk. yep
I have a talk a week from today I should write today. But I really really don't want to.
ugh, i know how that goes
I can sympathise with you, @MikeMiller.
Algebra's hard, man, and it's about algebra.
i have to admit, when it comes to delta function stuff I'm not very rigorous in practice
Huy
Huy
19:59
@Semiclassical: I just thought it was ironic that someone who says "measure theory and some other maths is useless" and then asks about a formula with the delta distribution because he doesn't manage to prove it using only basic analysis
partly that's because i've never actually taken measure theory---i went from a liberal arts college off to physics grad school---and partly because i've felt for a while that if i wanted to learn it properly i should learn about hyperfunctions :P

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