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16:00
@Gortaur They saved the action for part 2
@robjohn that one is more interesting. I appreciated how Helen B. Carter starred Hermione
she is a nice actress I would say
@Gortaur cat fight?
@Gortaur Nono, Helena played that witch Bellatrix...
Hermione is Emma Watson.
@JM I meant the scene where Hermione disguised Bellatrix to come to Gringotts
Ah, of course... silly me. :)
16:02
@Gortaur Ah, that scene. I wasn't sure exactly what you were referring to.
that scene Helena played Bellatrix but was moving and acting as Hermione. pretty natural
Yes, Helena Bonham Carter is a good actress. She has had a lot of experience.
among all HP actors I mostly liked G. Oldman but he appeared only for a very short time there
@RajeshD Harry Potter
got it
and yes, I really appreciated how from part to part they made beginning of the movie darker and darker
the Half-Blood prince they made with some color filters I guess
16:07
@Gortaur How does DH part 2 start? I need some refresher. :)
@Srivatsan I don't remember, will watch it soon. I only watched it once in the cinema
@Srivatsan but I meant the appearance of Warner Brows. logo
@Gortaur Same here.
@Gortaur Oh ok. I am completely mixing up parts 1 and 2 in my mind..
where? and what is the same?
@Srivatsan the trick is that 1 pt is followed by 2
16:09
@Gortaur I've only seen DH2 in the theater once. I will watch the DVD soon, and I don't remember exactly how it started out.
@robjohn icic
@Gortaur :) I didn't think of that, but now that you say it, I liked that effect too.
@Gortaur Thanks for the tip. I am sure it will be useful in the future... =)
@Srivatsan at least it started from 3rd part, I don't like first two too much
@robjohn wow, so much of common
@Gortaur It's eerie. Come to think of it, I have never seen us in the same room (IRL) together...
@robjohn you think we are the same human being?
(if you think so too, then even our thoughts coincide)
16:14
I'm just saying that the evidence to the contrary is seeming pretty thin. ;-)
@robjohn that means that I'm also in 10k club!!!!!1111 DANCE
by the way, congrats
Enjoy! What evil shall we beset upon MSE?? ;-)
@Gortaur Thanks! but as we are one, congrats to you, too!
@rob: just visit the Tools page every so often for ideas... >:)
@robjohn just think your thoughts - if our theory is TRUE then I will read your (mine? ours?) thoughts
@rob @Gortaur are both of you into applied math ?
16:17
@JM Tools Page? Is there some compendium of toys of which I am unaware?
@RajeshD Shh... they might find a difference.
we're like two representations of the same group
@robjohn 10k only!
robjohn is isomorphic. Gortaur isn't... ;D
@JM isomorphic to ... (?)
@JM Thanks! I have added it to my bookmarks.
It's an old joke, Gortaur... :) "This one is isomorphic, but the other one isn't..."
16:20
I'm the only one in my house who has to share a bed.
@TheChaz That can be good or bad.
but since you say "has to" it doesn't sound good.
That's in reference to the isomorphism joke
@TheChaz okay, I'm slow this morning.
Slow like my 23-speed bike?!?
I'm the only one in my house who has to share their head.
not in the naval sense
16:23
Oh dear :)
"Is the poop deck what I think it is" - Homer
Are you here to kill me.....I know what is this....I've seen one before...many many years ago...It belonged to a man i met in a half remembered dream....a man possessed those some radical notions..............A conversation between @rob and @Gortaur
@JM More like the postdoc which told me that, and the professor from the story.
@Gortaur is just a projection in @rob's dream
16:26
@RajeshD or is it vice-versa?
ahhhaha....use your totem !
funny
@robjohn maybe I am a projection of your 9-hours future
@Gortaur Hmm, I hadn't thought of that yet :-/
If you are given a task of performing an inception of a mathematical idea into someone's mind which one would you choose......how would you go about doing it
I would first eject the disc from the DVD/BluRay player, return it to the box saying "Inception" and get back to work on my research.
16:34
could anybody tell me the following: I've found a possible typo in one journal paper from 2009. shall I report it to them? the typo is: talking about CDFs (cumulative distribution functions) the author writes PDF (usually probability density function)
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Q: Battle of the sites - cancelled

Lauren In response to the community's feedback on this contest, we've decided to cancel it. We never intended to favor quantity over quality, but we can see how this contest missed the mark. We appreciate all the constructive criticism regarding this idea. In case you haven't seen the cont...

Huzzahs are in order.
@Gortaur: "them" = "authors"?
That's gracious of them...
@JM that is the question. should I report and to whom
@Gortaur I guess you could try contacting the authors first...
16:36
@Asaf : how did you know that i am playing that Disc now
Indeed, Srivatsan has it.
@RajeshD It was obvious.
Home! @Srivatsan It was good.
@Gortaur Is there a "corresponding author"? Many papers designate an author as such.
@tb "If all else fails, write in German." do you think J.S. Milne made that page based on Lauchli's paper you helped me with? :-)
16:42
@Srivatsan: not really, it is stated nowhere
I think I remember seeing somewhere here an advice about google books - that sometimes changing books.google.com slightly can help if the page is not viewable.
IIRC it was books.google.cn - but I'm not sure?
Does anybody know?
(I had not idea why it should work, but I think it did when I tried it back then.)
Not anymore, last I checked. They wised up to that. You need to use a proxy now if you want to try your luck at seeing pages you can't usually see.
@Gortaur Maybe you can double check with someone else (here) before pressing the send button (if that's your concern).
@JM Thanks!
@Gortaur [contd] I mean, double check that there indeed is a typo.
@JonasTeuwen Nice to hear that.
16:46
@HenningMakholm hm, let us think that these guys tried and failed with this idea and it's not a direction they are going to approach
@Gortaur : I remember someone saying "Its always wise to not to spot someone's mistakes in public"
It's perfectly alright to say "I seem to have misunderstood; shouldn't that be..." ...you know the rest.
@RajeshD he was not a politician for sure )
And it doesn't have to public either... There's always email.
16:49
@rob: I think you like that kind of questions
I have decided to add a new font to my writing style.
@AsafKaragila \mathasaf ?
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Nah. Old English font, which is a blackletter like \frak
@MartinSleziak Martin: for me it still makes a difference whether I use google.com or google.ch or google.fr. It's worth a shot, anyway.
ok, thanks @tb
@JonasTeuwen That was a particularly helpful comment :)
I've made the comment to mention that here math.stackexchange.com/questions/82379/…
@JonasTeuwen He thought there are no functionals at all!
17:05
Yes, true.
@AsafKaragila Haven't you observed that he works in Läuchli's model?
@tb He cannot. Lauchli's construction is for countable fields, as I remarked to Francois on his answer to Bill's question on MO.
So I'm not sure whether my advice was correct or not - I would have to try on some pages which I cannot view.
I wonder if I was a bit too harsh, but I told him sooo many times already that it is extremely difficult to parse his math.
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A: Is the variance of a sum of infinitely many independent random variables the sum of their variances?

TommyYEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no covariances dude. they are eaten up by independence.

17:14
@tb You have made a typo near the URL math.osu.edu/~goss/hint.ps I will apply that document to my thesis.
@Jonas: thanks, fixed. Good idea to apply it.
I think I have done most of that. Except the "iff" and some other small things.
But they are due to laziness, not because I don't know it. I will correct it anyway.
@tb +1: excellent answer )
@Gortaur: thanks!
@tb Well, you're right.
17:18
Oh, I forgot to vote. Yes +1.
my pleasure to talk to you guys, but I will go home in a moment, so see you all later
@JonasTeuwen The thing is not that you have to agree with all of these tips, but being aware of them helps: breaking the rules consciously is certainly better...
Thanks guys!
I don't even get as far as you do. There are two (i)'s and two (ii)'s and no prose that attempts to tell the reader what the connection between them is.
Yes, I'm aware of that. But the suggest surely better things than I have done.
Isn't -n^(-n)^n the same as -n^(-n*n)?
17:26
@HenningMakholm Oh, you're right, I didn't even notice that...
(I guess I made the parentheses automatically)
Can't I apply the rule a^u^v := a^(u*v) for -n^(-n)^n?
From a^u^v it's not completely which one of the two you mean.
I see Martin, I suppose it's the second because the text also got smaller for each n
thanks for clearing that out
If you mean a^(u^v), than it's definitely not the same as a^(u*v).
@Clash There's a rule (a^u)^v=a^(u*v). Because of this rule, a^u^v is usually taken to mean a^(u^v), because that's the variant that doesn't have a notation already.
17:34
thanks for the tip henning!
@robjohn Hi. I'm home. Do you have some time?
@Gortaur I saw that one, but it seemed to have been answered sufficiently.
@JonasTeuwen what's up?
Yes, I'd like to know what the difference is between the hardy spaces on R^d x (0, infty) and the ones on R^d. (Then we have sup_{t > 0} |P_t * f|).
I haven't gone into depth in Harmonic Analysis, but aren't the spaces there just the R^d of the R^d x (0,\infty) but just looking at the R^d?
and they are sort of getting rid of the (0,\infty) by using the maximal functions?
Or is there more?
Since the book is concentrating on real methods and not complex, that seems to be a way to go.
Well, in the other case they do sup_{t > 0} |u(x, t)| instead of sup_{t > 0} |(P_t * u)(x)|. Then we do have of course that lim_{t -> 0} P_t * u(x) = u(x).
17:45
So it seems that they are extending the function implicitly into R^dx(0,\infty) by convolving with the scaled kernel P_t.
They even mention that the model for P_t is the Poisson kernel, which would be the complex analog if they were in a complex space.
So this just seems like the real analog of the H^p set up.
Am I making sense?
Yes you are.
So it is an analog. Fine. I was wondering why they had different definitions.
We just take f(x, t) = (P_t * f)(x).
Harmonic Analysis is a real variables method approach to these subjects. There is very little complex analysis (except where needed)
@JonasTeuwen Precisely
Okay, fine then I can take the results from "$H^p$ spaces of several variables" and just substitute that.
(I want to talk about the usual Hardy spaces in my presentation as well, I have only studied ones where we have a non-doubling measure).
17:50
I would see no reason why not. (of course results may vary with the specific application).
There is some strange thingie as well. Fefferman says that the result for p = 1 is proven in some other paper. But there they prove this for {z : z = x + i y with Im y > 0}. Probably there is a connection which I'm missing at the moment.
But thanks!
Very welcome, for whatever help :-)
Real variable techniques look like they are more fun :-).
The boundedness of the Hilbert transform using Caldéron-Zygmund theory for example.
That's the only one where I also have seen a complex analytic proof.
Complex methods can be slick, but they have limitations. The real methods have fewer restrictions. At least, it seems to me.
Probably, that was the goal of replacing the complex methods by real methods right?
17:53
That was my impression.
Cool stuff.
I hope some guy from the ANU wants to be my co-advisor.
18:12
The professor of the course "Advanced topics in analysis" didn't like it that I wrote "By a result that is well-known by those that know it well" :D. 8.5/10 anyway.
@robjohn One basic -- maybe silly -- intuition I have about this is to consider the \ell^1-norm ball in finite dimensions: in the real version you really just have the 2n standard basis vectors as extremal points while in the complex version you have n Euclidean circles. In this sense complex norm estimates always carry some Euclidean stuff in them...
Yes, the complex norm is simply the real norm of twice the dimension.
If that's the idea you were going for :-)
Social norms are complex.
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@AsafKaragila and often not satisfied by mathematicians :-D
@robjohn no, my point is that this is not true (not even in one dimension). Each "standard" copy of C in C^n with the l^1 norm carries the Euclidean norm.
QED
QED
18:28
haha
good joke
@tb I must be missing something. Sorry. Perhaps it is the meaning of "carries" that I am not getting.
@robjohn Well, the ell^1 norm on C is the usual absolute value on C This is not the same as the ell^1 norm on R^2 which is a square. Similarly in C^2: the first complex 1-dimensinoal coordinate has the usual absolute value of C and the second one too. While the unit ball in R^4 with the l^1 norm is the convex hull of 8 points.
Nothing Euclidean there (as opposed to the complex case).
|z|=|x+iy|=\sqrt{x^2+y^2} ah, but you are talking about the \ell^1 norm on R^2.. I see
I was being dense.
Why is a non-tangential maximal function called that way? I understand the maximal function part.
@JonasTeuwen because the approach is limited to a cone and not a general approach
18:39
Wow, Brian really deconstructed that argument
Yes, I know what it states, I don't really understand the word "tangential" here.
@tb Must be an experienced teacher :-).
I wonder where that urge to use symbols instead of words everywhere comes from.
It's not something that is actively taught somewhere, is it?
@JonasTeuwen say if the approach region were a paraboloid that is tangential to R^d rather than a cone. Then some of the approach paths would be tangential to R^d.
No, I don't think it is but many first years students do this. They think that makes it "rigorous".
@HenningMakholm No it isn't taught that way, but I believe it's a form of "playing it safe" if you're uncertain and a way to lure yourself into believing that you avoid handwaving. You're "more precise" that way. One basic instance of this is that many, many, many students write f = lim f_n in functional ananlysis without even saying what norm they're using but it looks way more precise than the simple f_n -> f in L^p.
18:44
@robjohn Oh! Yes, now I get it.
@HenningMakholm I remember using ∀ and Ǝ all over the place to make things shorter (but also unreadable)
\tilde \forall x < for almost all x. :D.
\tilde?
What's that for?
almost, I assume
To put a tilde on the \forall.
18:46
I meant what is the semantic interpretation of it?
Is it negation?
It is fine as long as it are notes which will be quickly written out.
\widetilde\forall looks better
It is just shorthand for "almost all x", it doesn't mean anything else.
(before you manage to drag in the axiom of choice)
18:49
Unrelated: I think my answer here is quite a bit better than the one-line answer to the question it was closed in favor of. If I copy/paste my answer over to the "original" question, should I then delete my first answer?
Why should you delete it? I would say: Copied from ... or something like that.
If no one references your answer, then I see no reason not to copy over it.
@JonasTeuwen So as not to look as if I'm looking to get rep from the same text twice.
Of course I could CW one of them.
Can't you make one CW?
Copy it over. And while you're at it, change "Theo" to "t.b." in the other answer :)
18:52
@Henning: No don't copy it.
Wait a second I'm looking for a link.
See Mariano's comments here
Do closed questions eventually get deleted?
I don't quite follow the reasoning. Is he saying that I can flag for a moderator to move the answer to the canonical original instead?
@TheChaz: no. They just remain closed.
I think that if the question is downvoted enough and have no answers then it will be deleted eventually.
@HenningMakholm There is a possibility to "merge" questions. Which copies the answers from the closed one into the ones of the open one.
19:00
If I understand correctly, "merging" would lose us the title of the recent duplicate, right? (The duplicate is probably easier searchable than the original here).
@AsafKaragila Exactly. I think a downvoted question with no activity and low views is deleted after thirty days. Here's an examle (10k-link, obviously)
@HenningMakholm No, I don't think so. I'll look for an example of how it looks.
Scary that this guy got to >1000 points
@tb: I hear you have a suitor on the chat...
@AsafKaragila can you explain?
Someone wants to marry you :-)
@HenningMakholm Here's an example: the source question, the destination question. Jesse's answer was the accepted one on the source thread. While Jonas's answer was accepted on the destination question already before they were merged
Thus, the question isn't deleted.
@AsafKaragila Oh, that. I found that pretty off-putting, actually.
19:06
Too prying?
Yep. It's simply none of that guy's business.
Yeah, I can understand.
@tb strange that you're the only one whom such interest was shown to
Oh, Hardy's going to join the 10k club in a few minutes, I guess.
@tb I don't remember exactly how did I learn your status, but in the case you found it off-putting as well I apologize
19:11
@Gortaur Don't worry not at all. You were talking about you and your wife (probably connected to commuting or something) and then you asked me if I was married or had kids.
@Gortaur He asked if you were a girl as well ;-).
@tb that's good. Btw, if one interprets 5 stars in the wrong way, (s)he may think that you have 5 suitors here
@JonasTeuwen that was Rajesh I believe. Theo didn't ask me, he just said that I'm paranoid. Taking into account our joint discovery with @rob that does not seem too wrong )
@tb OK, that looks alright. I'll fly a flag.
Oh I thought we were talking about another guy.
@JonasTeuwen Well, you can follow it and the discussion that ensued by clicking on my "do you want to marry me?" remark on the right.
19:15
@tb: we found that if I am indeed Smeagol, robjohn should be the second half of it
@tb at least one of us didn't perform the sense of humor )
@JonasTeuwen when I was living in Delft I came to TU at 8-30 and lived it at 19-00 because my wife was travelling 4 hrs per day to her place of job
@Gortaur Why work so long? :).
what to do @home?
my roommate is finishing his PhD so he is at the office 1 time per 2 weeks at most
@Gortaur Make food, clean the house?
@JonasTeuwen I was coming home about 19-10, and my wife was arriving 1 hr later - so I have a bunch of time to go to c1000/cook food
I miss c1000 so much in Leiden. I don't have a bike so I can use either Hoegvliet or AH, but AH is small here
19:34
Is there no bigger AH in Leiden?
@robjohn Still there? I have a small question. In the Fefferman-Stein paper they first take the harmonic functions on R^d x (0, infty). However, in Grafakos or Stein or whatever there is proved that elements in H^1 are merely integrable. So will the Fefferman-Stein space not be smaller?
(If this is annoying I will ask it on the main site).
(Some threat!)
One should probably edit this answer to be less condescending. Or what?
19:50
"Not the AP Calculus AB stuff, but more the partial derivative stuff." =)
On second thought, I'm not sure anything would be left if we edited out all of the fluff and insults.
If I could vote to delete, I would
"In Krantz's book A Primer of Mathematical Writing, p. 76, he instructs us: "do not give in-text biblographic references that have the form `see Dunford and Schwartz' (for those not in the know, [DS] is a three volume work totaling more than 2500 pages). "
My commutative algebra lecturer frequently says, "see Lang"...
So, @Zhen did you decide to study FM models?
@Zhen Does he motivate why you cannot do that?
20:02
What are you talking about, Jonas? Yes he can study FM models.
@Asaf No, I probably will not write an essay on FM models. But I may study them later anyway.
@Jonas: Lang's Algebra, for those not in the know, is a heavy tome of nearly 1,000 pages and 21 chapters... :p
@ZhenLin You always say that. I'll bet you that you won't study them before 2013.
@Zhen I mean... :P Why does Krantz's say we should not give in-text bibliographic references?
He means not to give in-text references to heavy books without a page number.
@JonasTeuwen H^p functions were originally boundary values of harmonic functions, so making the functions in R^d x (0,\infty) harmonic is the same as taking P_t to be the Poisson kernel. Using other P_t kernels, would mean generalizing the function on R^d x (0,\infty). That's my guess, since I haven't read all the papers you mentioned.
So the space with harmonic functions would seem to be smaller.
20:07
Right, we can change the P_t into some other Schwartz functions and get the same space (according to Grafakos).
@ZhenLin Oh duh.
@Jonas: Grafakos' advisor, Michael Christ, was an asst prof at Princeton while I was a grad student there.
Cool :-). Small world.
just a bit of trivia.
Michael Christ was at UCLA for a short while after I returned from Apple, so perhaps Grafakos was there, too.
@tb: Can you tell Matt whether or not he's looking for the algebraic dual?
No, Grafakos, was at UCLA until 1989, so he was there while I was an asst prof at UCLA. I didn't teach too many grad students, so I may not have known him, but I probably had run into him.
@ZhenLin Perhaps he means go and have tea with Lang. This would not have been as bad when I was a grad student, since Lang was still alive.
20:21
Having an answer merged seems to automatically earn a Necromancer badge :-)
Cool, a new badge.
@AsafKaragila Done.
The description is a bit cryptic:
>Answered a question more than 60 days later with score of 5 or more
@robjohn Why cryptic? answer a question more than 60 days after it was asked and get 5 upvotes. Technically that's what Henning did, isn't it?
(but most badges are a bit cryptic).
20:27
@robjohn How did you manage to post a reply comment with a link but without the leading @addressee?
The descriptions are too short to be really descriptive without some prior knowledge of what they are :-)
I am not quite sure...
It might have to do with breaking the line.
@HenningMakholm That is it :-)
Let me just
try that ...
Strange and wonderful.
@robjohn Yep, but this one was clear to me. (one of the rare ones).
I hadn't noticed that the addressee was missing.
thanks for bringing it up @Henning :-)
@Henning: did that ping you?
@robjohn Thanks for the trivia!
20:32
@robjohn There's this meta.SO thread with full details. (much more than you'll ever want to know about those stinkin' badges).
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Yes, I was pinged. That's how I noticed it: there was a ping but no highlighted @Henning.
@tb So Henning got the badge because he had 5 upvotes on the old question and the old question was merged with a question that was older than 60 days.
Apparently so, for appropriate values of "old" and "new".
@HenningMakholm true, old and new are used backwardly.
so the addressee is missing
and *italicized* text is not when there are more then one line.
It seems that a lot of the textual features fail in a multiline comment
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Q: Markdown in chat fails for multi-line messages

sbiWe've come to rename Markdown to Letdown in the C++ chat room because it lets you down so often. I've now just found a pattern. It seems markdown fails for multi-line messages. That is, this Letdown can't cope with multi-line comments. Let's see code? fails to display code marked as co...

20:38
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@balpha: Why the link?
2 mins ago, by robjohn
It seems that a lot of the textual features fail in a multiline comment
Ah. Right.
Does the set of conditions on the kernel K which are given as follows have a name? We have the size estimate, the Hörmander condition and the cancellation condition.
@HenningMakholm Sasha is pretty lax when it comes to approving edits :)
20:51
Somehow I feel that body-snatching a question like that ought to be Frowned Upon.
@tb and @Henning, What's the usual policy now? Should the mods be flagged?
@Srivatsan Don't think this is necessary. I rolled back to the previous version and left a comment for the other user.
@tb Good, I was writing a comment to the user when yours appeared...
No longer necessary, of course
On the downside, restricted internet usage means no real MSE posting for awhile. On the upside, my rep ends in 163 and I like it that way.
@anon er, what's 163?
(I didn't know what it could mean. I consulted Urban Dictionary and it fails me.)
21:07
urban dictionary lol... just google "163 number theory"
Oh, right.
@anon Well =)
That's my window to the popular internet culture...
I don't think I have seen you in a while @anon. How have you been?
Eh. Strapped for finances. Borrowing neighbors food. Landlord's dealer owe's me cash so I can stay afloat a bit. Have no gas money, pawned my Wii and laptop (put my files on an external HD). Looking for a second job.
A good plus though: I found out the local library has linux computers that don't require ID login, so (effectively) infinite usage is allowed and it has firefox/chromium.
@anon Sorry to hear that.
@anon: what's your first job?
@anon I haven't been lucky enough to find accessible computers in libraries... :)
21:20
@anon: using your neighbour's wifi isn't an option anymore, I guess, after pawning your laptop.
current one is phone surveys. looking for another at either a library/bookstore or some kitchen. (my first impression of the library computers was very low; 30-min tops per day, but I didn't see the linux workstations)
@anon: why don't you do private tutor for maths? would that not pay better than phone surveys?
I advertised over craigslist (linking to my mse account even), but only like one or two people take up the offer a month. Which is disappointing, because I'm sure there are people in undergraduate courses who could use my help. (Maybe I could go to the local campus and advertise myself though...)
I was just about to suggest that, there must be a pin board or something.
pin board?
21:26
I was quoted on meta.cstheory regarding the "battle" thingie. Neat.
pin board = wall where people post personals...?
oh. right. my experience with college campuses is limited to high school competitions.
21:39
@AsafKaragila So cool.
@balpha I just noticed this. So it happens everywhere, perhaps.
What's the battle thing?
@tb: just reading "do you want to marry me" -- lol @ Rajesh, I was wondering exactly the same. Do you ever sleep?
@robjohn Of course it does; it's intentional.
21:43
@balpha I see that, upon reading the rest of the page.
@Matt Who are you asking if they ever sleep?
@balpha: How come none of my feature requests have been addressed to by any diamond user? You guys say that you monitor local meta sites, and it sure seems like that... however nothing on feature requests is a bit upsetting at times.
@Srivatsan: There I asked t.b. but I was wondering this about several people here. : )
I sleep from time to time. The sleep itself is mostly for the body, mentally I am fully awake during my dreams, and my sleep has little to no quality whatsoever.
Funny. I need 8-9 hours of sleep every day otherwise I get grumpy.
@AsafKaragila: Sounds terrible. But if you have lucid dreams then maybe you're less likely to have nightmares?
21:52
@Matt How would you define nightmares? I have experienced so many twisted things in my dreams. Actually waking up screaming, or something occurs very very very rarely, though.
@AsafKaragila: I guess waking up with a feeling of general unease, even if you don't remember the actual dream, is good enough to pass as nightmare.
@Henning: lol, thanks. this looks like fun reading...
not even in \aleph_1 many years. Oh you, Asaf.
@Matt I sometimes die in dreams. The first few times it was scary, and I'd wake up feeling weird. It's not very common, but I stopped feeling extra-strange about it. After the first few times I would stop waking up after I die too. I'd experience this strange limbo, where you are aware of yourself but you aware that something is wrong... that is when I wake up.
Write? No, wrote. Just once, in chat. Too lazy to new-tab/copy-paste. but there, I edited it.
21:59
We had a visitor which wrote N for aleph on the board during his lecture in the topology seminar. It confused the most of us greatly at first...
Gerry as blunt as ever...
I mean, we are writing in Hebrew often, so we are used to N being N and aleph being... aleph.

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