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00:00
I cook mostly French, Italian, some Asian, and eclectic stuff I make up, @Stan.
Will evidently do less cooking now that most of my friends go out so much and I have an inferior kitchen to what I used to have. But so much better produce ...
How so? What makes it better? Fresher?
Yes, and greater variety of interesting and fresh stuff ... especially if I go to Asian markets and others.
ever had fugu?
The only Fugu I know is for SSHing files :P
Oh, pufferfish. Cool.
We studied it in my biology class. A pretty serious toxin.
I was pretty amazed by it.
00:05
Yes, so I'm reading.
See — you should study more biology instead of math.
But the biologist don't like math as much! :)
the thing that really floored me was how people seem to like the numbing sensation of traces of the toxin on their lips
Unless you do genetics stuff, true.
That really amazed me
So it has to be risky enough or they won't eat it
Well, UGA starts classes tomorrow ... without me. I wonder if I'll cry.
The students might lol. I think a Nobel laurette game theory guy just retired here. Guess I won't be taking that class.
00:06
laureate?
No, his name is Nobel Laurette.
lolol yeah spelling isn't my forte
ALTHOUGH
I haven't been using spellcheck on my phone
well, I typed too quickly and messed it up :P
@MikeM — go back to thinking about interesting probability problems.
@TedShifrin Do you understand what gauge theory is? Apparently that's what @MikeMiller is into.
00:08
@MikeM: You guys didn't respond to my message about appearing in LA, but I assume you got it.
It didn't seem like there was anything to respond to. We saw it, yes.
It's a physics-y slant on studying the space of connections on vector bundles.
@TedShifrin wow, that's so weird that UGA starts tomorrow. UChicago starts on the first day of october
Haven't seen AlexW on here in ages, @MikeM — is he settling in?
Presumably. I had a sandwich with him recently.
00:09
That's even late for quarters, @Stan, but Chicago probably has 8-week quarters :D
Cool, @MikeM ... He and robjohn are on my list of people to meet.
@TedShifrin It's not really fair to say that what I study, which would rightfully be called gauge theory, is particularly physics-y.
10 weeks :D
We had 10-week quarters at UGA for years, @Stan, but we started something like Sept 18 ... your finals must run up to Christmas.
yeah week before or something like that
The "gauge" terminology itself comes from physics, @MikeM, I believe.
00:11
That's correct, as do the equations. But the flavor, not so much, methinks.
@MikeM: You'll be amused. The woman I played bridge with last night turns out to have got a math Ph.D. from Ralph Fox in geometric topology in the 70s. She long since left math and worked in the computer/defense industry. But ... small world. She just sent me a paper she wrote on knot/link concordance.
@MikeMiller ha flavors. #QCD
Well, Yang-Mills is natural enough from math alone, @MikeM.
Deborah Goldsmith @MikeM
Isn't that why there is a clay mathematics institute problem involving Yang-Mills?
00:12
you guys are delaying me from my cocktail hour ... BRB
@TedShifrin: Studying flat connections is natural. I certainly wouldn't have thought to ask about $F_A^+$. Maybe it would have been more obvious if I had known $d^+$ fits into an elliptic complex or whatever.
One dude solved one and didn't take the money. Idiot. he could have at least given the money to his department.
I think Perelman would object to being called an idiot, since he's far from one.
Feel free to call him an idealogue.
The Yang-Mills millenium problem is different from the one mathematicians usually look at. The standard mathematical case is to have a specific, special $G$ - $SU(2)$ and $SO(3)$ are popular (I think $U(2)$ is too? and $SL_2(\Bbb C)$ is hip nowadays), and work on closed manifolds. $\Bbb R^4$ is far from closed, and this is for any $G$.
Don't ask me anything about what's going on in the statement of th eproblem beyond that.
I think Perelman is clinically shy, on top of all the ideology. ... I think trying to minimize any energy functional is totally natural, @MikeM ... Self-dual or anti-self-dual is natural enough, too.
But a million dollars shy?
LOL
you should have seen my econ professor's face
One day in class he asked me specifically during class is more money always better?
00:17
Your econ professor probably has little understanding of Perelman, the situation involved, etc.
And I paused
and thought about it
and he looked at me incredulously and asked what I was waiting for
@TedShifrin Fair enough.
and I said I never answer a question without thinking about it.
Random question
How much thought do you think people put into their up and down votes on SE?
@MikeM: I just forwarded you the paper, for interest's sake.
I was looking through some of @robjohn 's posts and you couldn't really honestly down vote some of them if you were actually reading them.
00:20
A few downvotes I've gotten I could understand — I was giving hints rather than complete solutions. But most of the ones I've gotten seem to be political in nature.
I only downvote when I complain to the author that something's wrong and he/she ignores me.
So, @Stan, when do we get back to discussing math instead of metamath?
Tonight if you are up for it. Let me go work on a few and I'll come back in an hour or so.
bbl
LOL
oh, hi @robjohn
@TedShifrin: This is an interesting fact to know, though somehow I already thought it was true.
@robjohn: Looking forward to meeting you .. something like Friday, September 11 or thereabouts.
Well, @MikeM ... surely things that were proved in 1979 are things you know now to be true :P
Homotopy of links is a very natural equivalence relation. It's the study of links minus knot theoretic conflicts.
When they say "link homotopy" here they don't mean just homotoping the individual maps... that would be trivial
00:25
Hello @Ted
heya @Clarinet !! How goes the new career?
@MikeM: I've forgotten — surely it's not ambient isotopy?
Really, really fun. I love it. Easily my most favorite job so far, despite the 55-60 hrs/week. I managed to dig around and find a way for me to learn web development through this company, and my boss is enthusiastic about that idea, since no one usually pursues that route in my role :)
I'm very happy it's working out so well for you, @Clarinet :)
@TedShifrin: Homotopy s.t. distinct components never intersect
I am too, you have no idea :) How have you been @Ted?
00:27
So every knot by iteslf is identified with the unknot but the Hopf link is still nontrivial
oh, ok, @MikeM, I guess that's the totally natural definition.
It reduces things to how things really link
Whitehead link dies...
Oh, by the way, I have started a statistics blog, for any of you who are interested: ycstatistics.blogspot.com
It assumes that you know really basic statistics and probability
Right ... I still remember the fascination I had learning (in my math adulthood) about the Borromean rings.
I'm settling in in CA, @Clarinet, thanks. Went back and played bridge last night (rather poorly, but ...). Baby steps.
I know basic probability (I hope) after teaching it. Don't know as much stat as I should, although I directed a MA thesis on it.
Didn't I tell you about the guy that did a MA thesis in math on the geometric/linear-algebraic stuff all through stat? He claimed that the stat folks never teach it geometrically at all.
@TedShifrin If you know what a hypothesis test is, you should be able to handle what's on my blog. Basic probability... mmm, I'd say if you know that expected value is additive, you should be fine
@TedShifrin That is correct
00:30
I should send a copy to you for you to find all the mistakes in it :P
@TedShifrin Haha, I already have it
You sent me it a while back
Oh, I did send it. See — I'm old and forgetful. But you never gave me comments, so I'm slightly less guilty.
Btw, this is how they teach linear algebra in the book I have for this M.S. stats program: ycstatistics.blogspot.com/2015/08/matrices.html
Yep, been busy. But it looks fascinating.
I'm not going to look at a matrix algebra blog.
00:31
You can read my linear algebra books if you want :P
Yeah, it's nuts. I can't believe how long it took me to sort out what was going on in that book
I'd love to, but time, time time... :P
The YouTube lectures are pretty fast-paced on the linear algebra stuff, btw.
If there's anything I really need to learn better, it's multivariable calc
The multivariable real analysis prof I had was... not good at explaining things
I remember how my Calc. III professor explained open/closed surfaces
If you have an ant crawling all over the surface and it can get inside the surface, the surface is open.
If you have an ant crawling all over the surface and despite all of its efforts, it can't get in the surface, the surface is closed.
That's really crap.
Open is completely wrong. Closed means that it has no boundary.
completely incomprehensible
00:36
Lol. Obviously it must've been, since I don't remember anything from that class
other than that
Well, you are welcome to take advantage of me virtually whenever you wish :P
I think once I find time to do math stuff again, your book will be 1st priority. Then maybe I'll try doing Spivak and Rudin after.
Which Spivak?
If you mean single variable, it would make more sense to do it first, although you don't have to.
So, @MikeM, what probability stuff have you been preparing?
Not the manifolds one, the Calculus one. I'd like to actually see how math majors are supposed to learn Calculus these days, since I hate the usual Stewart method
I'm curious if it's past what I know.
OK, @Clarinetist. It's a beautiful book. If you do it and my book, you know a lot of analysis.
Which reminds me ... I should email Spivak and make sure he's still alive and kicking.
00:39
@TedShifrin: Last week I had troubl ebecause they talked about very little (derived distributions, and that's about it). Now there's too much: conditional expectations against other random variables, law of total expectation, moment-generating functions. Convergence in probability.
@MikeMiller OOH that stuff is FUN
HAHA
Ah, this is stuff close to where I ended, @MikeM.
Midterm is Thurs so I'm doubling my office hours.
Maybe after Wed I'll be able to, yknow, get back to my work...
I had fun with the conditional variance formula. It seems to be emphasized on actuarial stuff.
I don't get that section yet.
00:41
MGFs are kinda useless, IMO. I'm not sure why they don't just teach characteristic functions (these are not the ones you know about in measure theory).
You mean indicator functions, @Clarinet? I was complaining that Ross underemphasizes them.
@TedShifrin What he means by characteristic functions is the Fourier transform.
@Mike is correct
MGF seem pretty powerful to me ... that's how you prove the central limit thm.
Oh ...
I suspect you could do that with the Fourier transform too, but I don't know, I haven't thought about that.
MGF ofc is Laplace
00:42
<--- resigns in ignorance
But yes, people should start teaching probability with indicator functions. Makes things a lot easier
yes, @Studentmath and I used to have conversations about indicator functions ... I tried to incorporate them more into my course because of those conversations.
There was a proof that I couldn't understand for the longest time until someone used indicators to do it
I really wish I'd decided to teach probability ages ago and taught it several times.
Oh well.
Yeah, the problem with the MGF is that it doesn't exist unless it's "exponentially bounded"
00:43
I wish I hadn't tried to teach something I know little about when I'm busy.
unless the *probability (some probability, idr what it is)
LOL ... @MikeM, I know you'll think I'm bullshitting, but I actually did some of my best teaching/learning early in my career when I was super busy. The teaching energized me and I spent a lot more efficient time doing research.
Ah, here it is
Ah. I haven't.
yes, @Clarinet, you need hypotheses for the MGF to exist. But they're not implausible, imho.
00:44
MGF exists $\Longleftrightarrow$ $\mathbb{P}\left(|X| > x\right) \leq Ke^{-cx}$ for some $K > 0$ and $c > 0$
Right @Clarinet.
Probability's so much fun
Every distribution seen in nature is exponentially bounded. You could be a prick and make a worse one, but you'd be a real jerk.
Cauchy?
@MikeM: You're very different from me. But if it weren't for the reward I felt from teaching (only taught 2 1/3 years in grad school), I would have quit. It kept me going.
00:46
I'll stay in my own hole from now on.
LOL, @MikeM — care to tell us how you really feel?
Huh? @ your own hole Huh?
@Clarinetist: Are you claiming Cauchy isn't a jerk?
@Ted: Topology and analysis I already know.
Lol no, the Cauchy distribution has a nonexistent MGF, so does that mean Cauchy is a jerk? - is my question
I made a fuss at Berkeley and insisted on teaching my own multivariable/linear algebra class for mechanical engineers. Everyone else just TAed. I acted like a postdoc my 4th year when I taught. But I loved it.
No, it's a fair point, I agree that one comes up in nature. But I also think Cauchy is a smelly jerk.
00:48
glares @MikeM
refills martini on that note
I need a beer.
I was going to try to make beer brats yesterday (we're only in the capital of Wisconsin...), but gf said we'd never drink the leftover beer (which is true), so I tried simmering brats in water, cinnamon, black pepper, and italian herbs
I think I might try apple cider next time
I guess the point is that to teach probability right at an advanced level one really needs measure theory and Lebesgue ... which is why one does that for the grad course. :)
That's weird, @Clarinet. You could just buy an individual bottle of beer at the liquor store.
So is your governor still bent on destroying the university system?
00:52
@TedShifrin Yeah, I was wondering about that, but gf says you can't buy beer without having to resort to a 6-pack. I'll have to check it out. I've never actually bought beer for myself before heh
You still can... but they're a little bigger.
Their governor is busy asking the Koch brothers if he can destroy the country.
Education is so f***ed.
@TedShifrin Haven't heard much lately due to the summer, you know. But he's made himself look like an idiot on his campaign
@TedShifrin Heh, well put
I'm really worried ... we sent one of our star undergraduates to do his PhD at UW, and I'm really worried for him.
@MikeM, AlexW met him, actually.
He'll be fine. They won't destroy UW. The smaller state schools will go first.
00:54
I've heard of tenured full professors in math fleeing, @MikeM.
His own party is rebelling and when it's finally time to vote he'll lose in a landslide. People are much more pissed than before.
@MikeMiller I'm betting on that too. My alma mater, in the same state, got something like a 25% budget cut
Hence I'm glad that I managed to get into a M.S. program outside of WI
I can't believe Trump is leading since the GOP debate. Didn't expect that at all
I didn't watch it, though
It's the totally ignorant polling for him ... not that the Republicans have much other than old white ignorance to go on.
If you actually look at what he says he manages to be the least evil of the top 5 or so.
I heard the moderator gave him crap
00:56
If the people polling for him listened to what he says other than the racism they'd be voting for someone else - he has a lot of frankly centrist beliefs.
You mean the moderator who menstruates?
Hah, yes
They all gave him crap. It was an attempted hit job. It failed.
Yeah, I hear he's after Scott Walker and he seems to be bringing people in
If it weren't the world at stake, I'd sit back and laugh.
00:57
Ikr?
I know nothing about the Democrat candidates other than Clinton and some Sanders guy who is apparently not accepting any sort of... how do I describe it, corporate funding? [at least that's my impression]
@MikeM will give you an hour lecture, @Clarinet.
oh boy
There are rumors of Biden and Gore ...
I heard about Biden possibly running, Gore(?)... didn't he run way back when G.W. Bush was running?
No there aren't. Gore has denied it, Biden hasn't publicly denied it but every rumor stems from Maureen Dowd, NYT columnist who hates Hillary and would love for an establishment candidate to run against her.
Some people are worried about Hillary actually winning and are desperately reaching out to every established name they know.
I won't try to sell my preferred candidate here because I've given other people crap for doing that in the past. Math chat room and all that.
01:00
I've heard the theory that the democrats hired Trump to run as a republican just to screw with people
Other than that, I've been quite out of touch with the election
Well, I told @Stan it was time to get back to real math. I'm done hassling Balarka for trying to understand the geometry of cup product when he doesn't have the background for it.
Unlikely.
I think that's a Tea Party rumor, @Clarinet.
I took some survey which said that my views are most similar to those of Sanders
In any case, I've talked more about this than I should, given my previous opinion on other people doing so. Email me if you want to talk more. I'm a political junkie.
01:01
<--- resigns
Sad that Julian Bond just died ... and Jimmy Carter isn't far behind.
Weird how much less politically involved I am once I get a FT job...
You still need to care, @Clarinet ...
Yeah, I realize that. It's just more difficult
I mean, look at Scott Walker and Wisconsin. It's absurd what happened there and I remember my professor, despite what the university told her, telling us to not go to class and protest our views
back when they removed collective bargaining (2011?)
I remember when MIT shut down during the Vietnam war during my junior year ... classes essentially became optional.
That must've been interesting. Weird to think that I probably wouldn't be typing this right now had it not been for that war
01:05
Ah, I didn't realize. How so?
I'm Hmong
Your family fled to the US during the war?
Gotcha. Well, welcome :)
Haha thanks
01:06
The partner of one of my oldest friends also escaped thanks to the Americans during the war.
I'm the first person in my family with a 4-year degree. At times, it's difficult to relate to them, but things have definitely gotten better with the complete career change
You know they're super proud of you.
Of course.
@TedShifrin Hey there... just back from food. Going out to the park soon. BBL
OK, @robjohn :)
01:09
I should really write a financial math blog sometime.
blog post
Can't do an entire blog on that, heh
Why not?
Not interested enough, mostly
I'm amazed that people like Terry Tao take the time to maintain a serious blog. I don't know how he manages to do that on top of research, teaching, and family.
Well, I'm outta here for now. Have a good evening.
Bye everyone
How do I rigorously say that if I have a 2-dimensional Lie algebra, $\mathfrak{g}$ with basis $\{x,y\}$ and bracket $[x,y]=x$ that an ideal $\langle x\rangle$ $\ne \mathfrak{g}$? I can see that $\langle x\rangle$ can only generate 'half of the basis'. Do I just say that since $x,y$ are linearly independent, then $y\not\in\langle x \rangle$ and hence $\langle x\rangle \ne \mathfrak{g}$
I.e. $y\not\in \langle x\rangle$ since $x,y$ linearly independent, $y\in \mathfrak{g} \implies \langle x\rangle \ne \mathfrak{g}$
01:35
I mean, this is the definition of an ideal. It's $\mathfrak g \cdot \text{span}(x)$. $[ax+by,x] = a[x,x]+b[y,x] = -bx \in \text{span}(x)$ as desired.
Sorry, to be more rigorous. The smallest ideal containing some subspace $R$ is the union $R \cup [\mathfrak g, R] \cup [\mathfrak g,[\mathfrak g,R]] \cup \dots$. We call this the ideal generated by $R$. We've shown that this stabilizes immediately in this case.
Thank you @Mike.
Not to be nosy, but just so you know @Mike, your description on math overflow is outdated.
01:53
Weird. I thought I updated it network-wide.
@BalarkaSen Turns out my combinatorics idea was wrong. You can apply Yoneda's to get natural isomorphisms alright, but I noticed that my reasoning would have also applied equally to the subcategory of just {1}, but the symmetry groups in that case are both trivial instead of S3 and C2 so something must have been wrong. Figured out the issue: you can't apply Yoneda's lemma to restricted hom functors.
Thanks for the tip. It's fixed now.
@MikeMiller is union sufficient or should it be a sum $\Sigma$?
I meant to write sum. I don't know why I wrote $\cup$. Thanks.
02:20
Not really sure what to do here. I guess it's pretty unsatisfying to just drop a reference, but Scott explains it better than I could in a couple paragraphs. I guess I could just quote the relevant sections.
good evening @anon
evening
hi guys
oh no, it's @skull
Is that the ghost rider @skullpatrol?
02:26
How are you? Professor @TedShifrin
Yes @LieAlgebra
hi @skull ... what're you up to?
Not too much, how about you?
I'm not supposed to be up to anything.
@skullpatrol Did you like the movie? I thought it was awful personally, surely there is a better choice for a skull?
There are so many choices out there...
I haven't seen the movie @LieAlgebra
02:29
@TedShifrin: so what was the temperature there today? It was 106° here.
only in the 80s where I am
@skullpatrol Then don't :P.
@TedShifrin Don't worry, it is supposed to cool down this week.
LOL ... It's still just a liberal hoax.
Thanks for the heads up @LieAlgebra :-)
How was your bridge game @TedShifrin?
02:32
I reported on it earlier, @skull ... I was pretty rusty/abysmal. But it'll get better.
I'm sure you're a fast learner :-)
It's not so much about learning ... it's about remembering what was more or less automatic 20+ years ago.
I see.
Like riding a bike, as they say.
well, sorta
a bit more brain power needed
and luck?
02:36
@TedShifrin Hey Ted! I decided to tackle one of the problems on Neumann series in Chapter 6
I got to the point where I used the properties of geometric series to show $\frac{1-H^{k+1}}{1-H}$ converges to $\frac{1}{1-H}$ as $k \rightarrow \infty$. Is $\frac{1}{1-H}$ the inverse of $1-H$? I know this is true for numbers. And I guess if we are using norms, then it is true too. But I got a bit confused whether I should be working with $H$ or $||H||$. Should I send you the proof?
It took all day but I was able to remember enough to prove an identity ramanujan used
I'm not really able to get the formatting right though, does anyone know how to make equations in a grid?
You'd better not write division of matrices if you want to live, @Stan.
LOL
Damnite you're right
So norms it is then.
That was silly
Unfortunately, that still happens. No, you need norms to establish convergence of the series of matrices (absolute convergence implies convergence). But you need to prove that you actually have the inverse matrix when you're done.
@TedShifrin So simply finding 1/(1-H) isn't sufficient.
I have to show this is the inverse?
Oh, this reminds me of eigenvalues where I need to multiply by the identity matrix
02:56
I keep saying that what you're writing makes no sense, @Stan. What's the definition of the inverse of a matrix $A$? It's a matrix $B$ so that $AB=BA=I$. So show that your candidate inverse satisfies the equation(s).
03:51
@TedShifrin It's like writing $\frac{D}{1-e^{-D}}$ for the derivative of the Euler-Maclaurin Sum Operator?
wow... 4 avatars dropped from the avatar bar when I posted that, including Ted.
2
lol
you know how to clear a room pal @robjohn :D
04:56
I am trying to show that the normaliser of a vector subspace of a Lie algebra is a subalgebra of the Lie algebra
I.e. I am trying to show $[N_\mathfrak{g}(Y),N_\mathfrak{g}(Y)]\subseteq N_\mathfrak{g}(Y)$ for $Y$ a sub vector space of $\mathfrak{g}$
I.e.(2.0) I am trying to show that $\forall n_1,n_2\in N_\mathfrak{g}(Y)$ that $[[n_1,n_2,Y]\subseteq Y$
After anti-commute + Jacobi identity etc I get:
Down to wanting to show that $[n_1,[n_2,Y]]+ [n_2,[Y,n_1]]$. Do I write then:

$$[n_1,[n_2,Y]]+ [n_2,-[n_1,Y]]=[n_1,A]+[n_2,B]$$ where $A,B\subseteq Y$ and then since these are subsets of $Y$, it holds that $[n_1,A]+[n_2,B]= C+D\subseteq Y$
I.e. those lie brackets with $Y$ become subsets of $Y$
So my question is, am I in the right direction from the "Down to wanting to show that" onwards
I love this chat room.
Why @Anthony?
@TedShifrin, @MikeMiller I hope things are going well for you guys.
@LieAlgebra Just entertaining- and makes me love mathematicians more
I love you too @Anthony.
Awh.
Are you in school?
05:07
Third year B.Sc
Third year!
And you're doing Lie stuff? Agh.
What year should be Lie stuff?
I dunno
I'm a fourth year lol
haven't learned any of it );
What's the title of your class?
Intro to representation theory
But I am exploring them in my own time since there are usually research projects for Lie algebras.
I see, I see.
Where do you go to school?
05:12
I'm in the US at a fairly low-tier school
I see, I see.
If anyone comes, please see
11 mins ago, by Lie Algebra
Down to wanting to show that $[n_1,[n_2,Y]]+ [n_2,[Y,n_1]]$. Do I write then:

$$[n_1,[n_2,Y]]+ [n_2,-[n_1,Y]]=[n_1,A]+[n_2,B]$$ where $A,B\subseteq Y$ and then since these are subsets of $Y$, it holds that $[n_1,A]+[n_2,B]= C+D\subseteq Y$
where do you attend school anthony?
Why does it say you have been a member on chat for 2 years, and your profile says 42 days?
@Christopher I go to Berkeley!
@LieAlgebra Mysteries!
05:22
@Anthony: I'll be in Berkeley again about 2 1/2 weeks ...
SO WILL I!
OMG
I have class, but perhaps we can finally meet!
@TedShifrin You've moved by now, right?
Yup. Driving up for a 2-week trip ...
You moved to socal, right?
I was just down there for my mom's birthday!
Yup ... Been here about 3 weeks.
How is it?
(Also, I don't know if I told you, but I think I'm going to apply for mathematics graduate school!)
05:26
Staying in SF 9/3 to 9/7 ... Have several friends to see in East Bay ... Probably Friday or Sunday.
Cool ... We can discuss ... If you want comments from me ...
Cool! I should probably definitely be able to say "hi" if you're around.
That would be helpful!
@MikeMiller !!!
morning
Morning?
You can't fool me.
At some point, email me contact info, @Anthony.
You live in LA?!
@TedShifrin Sure!
05:29
It's always morning to Mike, which is why I always say g'night to him.
Everything makes no more sense now.
Anyway, I think I probably need to go to bed. I gotta get up early tomorrow.
Later pal
It's even early for my age!
05:31
Hasta luego!
@TedShifrin :P
It's morning somewhere.
05:45
Someone is mourning somewhere.
Maybe I'll greet you with mourning from now on.
Mourning your retirement from such an extensive career :P
06:08
My question in chat above got reduced(hopefully successfully to the main page)math.stackexchange.com/questions/1399997/…
Thank you mystery upvoter
Thanks @anon. I just couldn't get the last part of my proof down for showing $N_\mathfrak{g}(Y)$ was a Lie subalgebra of $\mathfrak{g}$
mmhmm
 
1 hour later…
07:35
Hmm, @Mike. Consider the Hopf map $S^3 \to S^2$. This is zero on $\pi_n$ for every $n$. But it's not nullhomotopic.
This seems too easy to be true... probably I have mucked something up.
It's an isomorphism on $\pi_n$ for every $n \neq 2$.
Mew
Mew
07:56
Hello
08:13
I take back what I said. Higher homotopy groups of spheres are crazy, I forgot.
08:26
Hmm, I think what I want is a map from a $K(G, 1)$ space into some simply connected space $X$.
That way, the map would induce zero maps on $\pi_n$ for all $n$. I bet there are such non-nullhomotopic maps out there.
08:41
I need to know more language for decribing relationships between vectors.
I have noticed that for a particular collection of sets of points, the point closes to the centroid is very rarely the point closest to all the vectors in the set.
I feel like there should be words to decribe this.
and I feel like it it indicated the sets of points are themselves weird.
08:56
Heya
Does anyone know if the following "identity" have been asked on site?
$$
\sum_{k=2}^n \binom{k}{2} = \binom{n+1}{3}
$$
I was just curious if anyone had any combinatorial proof of it.

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