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08:00
I just found an interesting philosophical quote: For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them.”
― Aristotle, The Nicomachean Ethics
u cant learn anything without experiencing it
"Learning" is defined that^ way in psychology.
I agree @Agawa001, but just at some point. You need create memory and second-natures (or a more soft-nature) to learn something or get involved deeply
experience ; is just the step that can resurrect some lost theories from depth of the brain
brain works with sensorial perceptions, so you need words or something where you can create memory
I said signs, letters, sounds, etc...
work...
Im sry, I leave the offtopic, this is a chat for maths :p
08:04
yes of course , practise is more palpable than bein taught some hocuspocus agin and over and over
We learn by doing.
and they still wonder why youngsters cant learn quickly ???
Quickness is another issue.
practise , can accelerate things in someones consciousness
its relevant
True, it is pertinent.
But so is "understanding".
My apologies to the rest of the chatroom for being off-topic :P
08:10
maths can be more fluid , if somehow a palpable , sensible aspect , is learnt meanwhile , i v touched the difference first time i knew Golden ratio
now its on topic :p
But the root of the word "mathematics" is learning.
do u know how did gauss discover the arithmetic series ?
Sort of
its an arttistic way , when he was too juvenile for that
Add 1 to 100?
yeah, ofc we need some work to understand and remember. Sometimes working on something you can understand it, can assign a meaning from some perspective, so the things becomes "less abstract"
by example: to me sometimes the history of mathematics is key to understand, deeply, many topics
Thanks for sharing the link @Agawa001 :-)
with history you can take the context, the limits of mathematicians of this time, why they create some things, etc... you can put yourself a bit into their eyes
How does this sound @BalarkaSen for the two room thing. Stretch the the two openings till they they are as large their respective rooms, each room has a "floor", which you then contract into middle wall. Now you have a "parallelepiped" with "two openings" for their corresponding rooms, now fold the rooms walls into the middle wall by "pushing" down on the top opening and up on the bottom, into the middle wall. Now you just have the middle wall which you squish to a point...
Indeed, context is important. @Masacroso
08:18
(not sure how much sense that makes)
no problem
:)
gtg now see ya
Later pal :)
yeah, motivation is key to understand @skillpatrol, specially when you are trying to learn something very abstract...I learned some thing here, on mathexhange... the motivation concept is an efficient way to refer to context in a very specific way that is oriented to understand why something exist
@BalarkaSen Images above
Will probably go to bed soon, so might not be up for a response
@BalarkaSen Never mind, forgot about the middle floor
Well maybe the same thing works.... Maybe I should just go to bed
08:34
Being able to see the importance of the intended objective is the key to the deepest kind of understanding @Masacroso in my experience.
Sketches always turn out better after some well deserved sleep my friend @PaulPlummer :-)
Haha yah,
09:22
Howdy@TobiasKildetoft
@Rememberme Hi
hi @robjohn
Yo, wazzup?
Any good math(s) goin on?
:-)
09:45
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Q: How can we calculate the limit $\lim_{x \to +\infty} e^{-ax} \int_0^x e^{at}b(t)dt$?

evindaI am looking at the following exercise: Let the (linear) differential equation $y'+ay=b(x)$ where $a>0, b$ continuous on $[0,+\infty)$ and $\lim_{x \to +\infty} b(x)=l \in \mathbb{R}$. Show that each solution of the differential equation goes to $\frac{l}{a}$ while $x \to +\infty$, i.e. if $...

Do you have an idea what we could say for the case $b=0$?
@PaulPlummer I don't understand how you push the two floors into the middle wall.
@DanielFischer Do you maybe have an idea?
@felipa Hey there.
How is $F_2 \cong \Bbb Z \ast \Bbb Z$?
The hint provided is that "with due care, the universal property for one turns into the universal property for the other."
@SohamChowdhury Well, what are those universal properties?
09:59
For the coproduct, some unique morphism f must make this diagram commute.
@SohamChowdhury Ok, so you want to get that from having a similar property on a set with two elements, right?
Yes.
And the universal property for the coproduct in Grp is this:
@SohamChowdhury You mean for the free group
There is a unique group hom $\varphi$ making this commute.
Yeah, sorry.
The free group on A.
@SohamChowdhury Ok, so you have a map from each copy of $\mathbb{Z}$ to some group, and you want to show that this gives a unique map from the free group on two objects to that group
10:03
Right.
now, what data do you need to get such a unique map?
I think I'd need the two maps $\Bbb Z \to F(\{x,y\})$.
@SohamChowdhury No, what data do you need to ensure a unique map to the group from the free group on two generators?
I'm not sure what you mean by "data" there.
@SohamChowdhury Nothing precise. What sort of thing do you need
10:05
Wait.
Let me think for a bit.
By "data" do you mean just "information"? @TobiasKildetoft
@skillpatrol Something like that. In category theory, it is often referred to as "data"
Not really sure. Don't I need the rest of the maps in the diagram? Then I could make a unique map that would make the diagram commute.
@SohamChowdhury Well, for the free group, the map from $A$ to the free group is part of the free group (in some sense)
so all you need is a map from $A$ to the target group
Yes.
So these are the "diagonals" in the first diagram?
10:10
@SohamChowdhury Now, given a map from each copy of $\mathbb{Z}$, do you see how to get a map from $A$ (which has two elements)?
from the two copies of Z to?
I mean, give it a name.
@SohamChowdhury Well, you are trying to show that the free group on two generators is the coproduct of two copies of $\mathbb{Z}$
So let's assume we have a map from each copy to some group $G$
Now, we want to show we get a unique map from the free group $F$ on two generators to $G$
So I need to find a map $A\to G$?
10:12
(making everythig commute)
right
or $F(A) \to G$?
which one?
@SohamChowdhury $A\to G$ (which is what will ensure a unique map $F\to A$)
uniqye homomorphism I mean
I'm having a little trouble visualizing all these maps. Are the two diagrams supposed to "join together" in some way?
How does A enter the first diagram?
@SohamChowdhury Well, that is pretty much the entire idea here, to realize that having a homomorphism from each of two copies of $\mathbb{Z}$ corresponds to having a map from $A$
10:17
@SohamChowdhury Right
@TobiasKildetoft I was confused when you said "unique map $F\to A$". That's not in the free group diagram. Did you mean $A\to F$ or $F\to G$?
@SohamChowdhury I don't think I mentioned any unique maps to $A$
@SohamChowdhury Ohh, woops I did
I linked the comment.
I means to $G$
Ahh.
Now I can think.
So what was the question?
Finding a map $A\to G$?
10:19
@SohamChowdhury Yes
@MikeMiller A summerschool. I also noted that this can be taken in a somewhat algebraic direction; I want to see where that goes.
@Tobias nothing's coming to mind.
@SohamChowdhury Ok, let's try a simpler example. If you have a homomorphism from $\mathbb{Z}$ to a group $G$, can you find a map from a one-point set to $G$ (in some "natural" way)?
Map that single point to the identity in G?
whatever 0 maps to via the homomorphism, that is.
@SohamChowdhury $0$ maps to the identity.
10:25
Yes.
So that would be natural, but probably a bad idea as it will not depend on the homomorphism
What's the problem with that?
@SohamChowdhury Well, there would not be much chance of making the various diagrams commute then
What diagrams? I thought this was a completely separate example.
Or are you talking about the case of $F(\{\bullet\})$?
@SohamChowdhury It was meant to lead into the original example
10:28
Oh.
Well, I could map the single point to any $g\in G$.
Not sure how "natural" that is.
OrI could map it to whatever element I need to to make the free group diagram commute.
Is that what you're looking for?
@SohamChowdhury Well, could you map it to something such that if you only knew the map from the one point to $G$ (i.e. that one point in $G$), you could figure out what the homomorphism from $\mathbb{Z}$ was?
Well, do I know the map $A\to \Bbb Z$?
@SohamChowdhury Yes
hi
@robjohn I see someone liked my question and added a bounty :)
the prob one we were discussing yesterday
do you think your previous method can be applied to it?
@TobiasKildetoft I'm not sure. If I know the map $A\to Z$, I know that there's a "special element" $n$ in $\Bbb Z$ that $\bullet$ maps to.
10:33
@SohamChowdhury Right
@SohamChowdhury You do know that $\mathbb{Z}$ is the free group on one generator, right?
Yes.
Oh.
So that n is just the word "$\bullet$", in a way.
right (and it should probably be $1$ or $-1$)
so if $f(\bullet) = g\in G$, the homomorphism is just $\varphi(n) = g^n$.
if $\bullet$ goes to 1.
because $\varphi(1) = \varphi(j(\bullet)) = g$, and then the fact that $\varphi$ is a hom implies what I wrote above.
(I'm using the notation in the second image I posted)
Ping me when you get back, please.
@SohamChowdhury Still here
So was that correct?
10:43
@SohamChowdhury Yeah
Okay. :)
How do we get to the two-generator case?
@SohamChowdhury Well, now you have two maps from $\mathbb{Z}$, and you want two points
Oh.
I think I see what to do.
So the two copies of Z take the place of the singleton set, I guess?
@TobiasKildetoft What two points are you talking about?
10:47
@SohamChowdhury Well, you want a map from a set with two elements, so that means finding two points
Okay. $A\to G$, right.
So let $f(x) = $ whatever $0 \in Z_1$ maps to, and $f(y) =$ whatever $0 \in Z_2$ maps to?
I reached the evil level... see my profile xD
Not $0$, $1$
Oh, that's the generator.
Right.
The mark of the beast @Masacroso :O
10:53
Still there, @Tobias?
@SohamChowdhury Yeah
So? What next?
@SohamChowdhury So we now have a map from $A$ to $G$, right?
@SohamChowdhury Which gives us a unique map from $F$ to $G$
10:55
Yes.
And we're done?
Yes, because then $F$ satisfies the universal property of the coproduct
Okay. I'll give myself some time to digest that. Thanks. :)
:D
Congrats!
hahaha @skillpatrol... yes, this is sign!!!
 
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12:44
@Balarka do you know someone called Samik Basu?
yes, I do. why'd you ask?
Hm. What are you doing now?
Oh, never mind.
I am studying some multivariable calculus.
Ted's book?
12:50
I would've thought you'd jump straight to forms and whatnot. :P
No, I need to know how to differentiate before I jump to forms.
You don't?!
multivariable differentiation is not as easy as you think :P
anyway, that was meant to be a joke.
I don't know implicit and inverse function theorem, though.
Well. I'd like to say I know how to, but you'll give me some kind of Weierstrass function nonsense and then say "fact : you suck at calculus, get the hell out of here" :P
It's amazing how helpful the people in this chatroom are. I've practically been given short classes by a bunch of people from time to time.
Single variable calculus is easy.
12:52
Have you seen the preface to Tao's analysis book?
The number of pathological examples he has are just insane.
inb4 "meh"
I was scared to interchange sums and integrals for a week after I saw that, haha.
well, the point of calculus is to come up with good definition so that you can eliminate pathologies.
doesn't that go for almost all of math?
no :) in some parts of math, you have no choice other than working with pathologies.
12:55
examples being?
set theory?
well, algebraic geometry.
I wouldn't know.
Hi. Is there someone here with knowledge of NP complexity class ?
zariski topology on algebraic varieties is as pathological as it gets.
@LeGrandDODOM I know what it means but not much besides.
@BalarkaSen there, you've lost me with your "big words"
12:56
@BalarkaSen Only when seen from the point of view of topology
yet people have worked with it and have come up with hard mathematics so as to define, say, fundamental groups for varieties.
true, @Tobias. classical algebraic geometry doesn't care about what topology you have.
I don't care at the moment, because none of that makes sense to me yet.
I don't know the whole story either. I am just speaking out of my small knowledge of commutative algebra.
12:58
All I know about varieties is that someone once asked Serre or someone what one was and he retorted "integral scheme of finite type over a field", if memory serves.
@BalarkaSen from where?
I did some commutative algebra from Atiyah-MacDonald months back, and sat on a class (which was really on algebraic number theory rather than commutative algebra).
I found it hard, so I gave up and learnt some topology instead. I guess I'd have to learn loads of that stuff at some point of time.
why did you sit on the class? have some compassion.
just because they're not always sets doesn't mean they don't have feelings.
@BalarkaSen when did you start learning topology? O_O
about a year ago.
13:41
okay, I need to show that $\mathrm{Hom}(\Bbb Z,G) \cong G$ (which makes $\Bbb Z$ the free group on one generator).
here's how I think I can show this.
Let A be a singleton $\{a\}$.
Then f(a) = some $g\in G$ and j(a) = 1.
which, as we know, forces $\varphi(n)=g^n$.
there is a separate $\varphi$ for each choice of $f$, each of which corresponds to a $g\in G$.
in fact there is a bijection $\mathrm{Hom}(\Bbb Z, G)\leftrightarrow \{A\to G\}$.
but I think there's some simpler way to show that $\mathrm{Hom}(\Bbb Z, G) \cong G$ with zero nonsense.
any ideas, newfangled internet-using villager?
@iwriteonbananas?
@SohamChowdhury isn't $G$ abelian?
then it's false
checked the book. no.
wait.
@Balarka look at this answer. I didn't know that "which means" bit.
I take back what I said : maybe it's true for nonabelian $G$s too.
13:51
well, apparently.
Unfortunately, I don't know of any non-nonsense way to do it. Sorry.
and bananas is usually less anti-category theory (joking) than you are. @iwriteonbananas, halp?
@BalarkaSen is the with-nonsense way I showed correct?
looks ok.
but admittedly I haven't checked carefully.
Hey, wait a second. What about the evaluation map?
bah, I have missed my coffee this morning, I guess.
uh-oh, no, that doesn't work for nonabelian $G$s. ack.
@SohamChowdhury If $G$ is abelian, $\text{hom}(\Bbb Z, G) \to G$ given by the evaluation map $f \mapsto f(1)$ does the trick.
13:57
wait.
is my "proof" wrong?
@BalarkaSen that's interesting. but i dont really know enough about chain maps/homotopies yet to say something meaningful right now (plus my mind is clogged w/ complex analysis)
@iwriteonbananas can you help me?
im reading what u wrote now
so you're trying to prove $Hom(\Bbb{Z},G) \cong G$
take $f:\Bbb{Z}\to G$ and map it to $f(1)$. this give a map $Hom(\Bbb{Z},G) \to G$
define a map $G\to Hom(\Bbb{Z}, G)$ by $g\mapsto ( f:\Bbb{Z} \to G, 1\mapsto g)$
check that they are inverses of one another
14:03
right, doing that. wait.
is the second map $g \mapsto $ (any function $f: \Bbb Z \to G$ such that $f(1) = g$)?
@DanielFischer probably a dumb question, but if $f$ is an entire function such that $f^{(n)}(z)=0$ for all $z\in \Bbb{C}$, why does it follow that $f$ is a polynomial?
@SohamChowdhury a homomorphism $f:\Bbb{Z} \to G$ is determined by what it maps $1$ to
yes.
because then $\varphi(n) = \varphi(1)^n$.
oh, cool. those are inverses.
14:07
$\text{Hom}(X \sqcup Y, Z) \cong \text{Hom}(X, Z) \times \text{Hom}(Y, Z)$
so this is the universal for the coproduct.
let me try and explain why this is true.
ok
what are $X,Y,Z$?
objects of some category, I guess?
i find it easiest to work with sets for this.
oh ok
i assume it's sets
@skillpatrol Looks like $999$ to me
what's disjiont union in an arbitrary category?
14:09
not always defined, I guess?
anyway, let's work with $\sf Set$.
@iwriteonbananas If $f(z) = \sum_{k=0}^\infty a_k z^k$, then $f^{(n)}(z) = \sum_{k=n}^\infty \frac{k!}{(k-n)!}a_kz^{k-n}$. Thus $f^{(n)} \equiv 0$ means all coefficients of the series expansion of $f$ for powers $\geqslant n$ vanish, i.e. $f$ is a polynomial of degree $\leqslant n-1$.
@iwriteonbananas every $X \sqcup Y \to Z$ is equivalent to a pair of functions $(X\to Z, Y\to Z)$ that together determine where it sends everything.
@DanielFischer right, thanks
14:11
@DanielFischer If $f$ is analytic :-)
isn't that enough?
@SohamChowdhury right, the pair of function is given by the restriction of $X\sqcup Y \to Z$ to $X$ and $Y$ respectively
@robjohn The question was about entire functions.
what about other categories where the coprod is defined?
14:12
@DanielFischer Ah... didn't read back far enough
like ${\sf Grp}$ or $\sf Ab$?
@robjohn I guessed that.
@SohamChowdhury the coproduct in the category of groups is the free product
Hello!! Is someone of you familiar with fluid mechanics?
and in abelian groups it's just the direct sum
14:14
I know, but how do I show that the coproduct always satisfies that product of homs thingy (when it exists)?
coproduct in the category of topological spaces is the disjoint union of the underlying sets equipped w/ a certain topology
look at this.
I have never seen the "One way to state" thing Qiaochu talks about.
It's the most important way to state it. Try to rephrase it as follows: "Maps out of the coproduct are just pairs of maps out of each of its components."
Try to see that inside the definition you know.
And then try to prove the equivalence.
I can see it pretty clearly for $\sf Set$, but I think the coproduct is not as simple as the disjoint union in other categories, which is what gives me pause.
oh, wait.
yes, it makes a little sense now.
there are inclusions from $X$ and $Y$ to $X\sqcup Y$ "for free", so the only thing determining a map from $X\sqcup Y$ to $A$ is a pair of morphisms, from $X$ and $Y$ to $A$ resp.
so each morphism $X\sqcup Y \to A$ is equivalent to a pair of those from $X$ and $Y$.
Correct. Now it shouldn't be hard to take that and write down an actual isomorphism (as sets).
14:21
I know how to do it for sets.
I was just not sure about how the universal property is equivalent to that statement.
@MikeMiller is my intuition okay? about the inclusions and everything? do the inclusions really come for free in this case?
When I said as sets I didn't mean in the category of sets. I meant show the isomorphism $\text{Hom}(X \sqcup Y,Z) \cong \text{Hom}(X,Z) \sqcup \text{Hom}(Y,Z)$, and the as sets was to remind that these are sets.
Yes and yes.
oh, okay.
I'll do that.
A coproduct is not just an object $X \sqcup Y$. It's an object with two arrows into it.
I have to go to some kind of family gathering now. Thanks for the help, @MikeMiller :)
14:28
Could someone check if my calculation of $a_n$ is correct for $m=-\frac{2}{3}$?
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Q: Find solutions of the differential equation $3x^2y''+5xy'+3xy=0$.

evindaFind all the solutions of the form $y(x)= x^m \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_nx^n, \ x>0 (m \in \mathbb{R})$ of the differential equation $3x^2y''+5xy'+3xy=0$. That's what I have tried: Since $x>0$ the differential equation can be written as follows. $$y''+ \frac{5}{3x}y'+ \frac{1}{x}y=0$$ $$p(x)=\fra...

14:42
@Soham I wanted just mention that there is also the question on main about the problem you were discussing with Tobias. Proving that the free group on two generators is the coproduct $\mathbb{Z}*\mathbb{Z}$ in $\textbf{Grp}$
Maybe it will be useful for you, maybe not.
15:08
Hey @AntonioVargas
Did you take a look at my question?
15:36
@DanielFischer Could I ask you something?

We have $y_1(x)= x^{\frac{1}{2}} \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n x^{2n}}{(2n+1)!}$, $y_2(x)= x^{-\frac{1}{2}} \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n x^{2n}}{(2n)!}+ x^{-\frac{1}{2}} \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n x^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}$

Will $c_1 y_1(x)+ c_2 y_2(x), c_1, c_2 \in \mathbb{R}$ be a power series?
@evinda Only if $c_1 = c_2 = 0$. In a power series, you have only integer powers of $x$, and due to the $x^{\pm\frac{1}{2}}$ factors here, you have non-integer powers. But it is of the form $x^{-\frac{1}{2}}\cdot P(x)$ where $P$ is a power series. That is for many things almost as good.
@DanielFischer I see.. I want to prove that $y_1, y_2$ are linearly independent.

Let $c_1, c_2 \in \mathbb{R}$ with $c_1 y_1(x)+c_2 y_2(x)=0, \forall x \in (0,R)$.

Can we continue saying that all the coefficients have to be zero?

If so, then can we say the following?

The coefficient of $x^{\frac{1}{2}}$ is $c_1$, so it has to hold that $c_1=0$.

The coefficent of $x^{-\frac{1}{2}}$ is c_2$, so it has to hold that $c_2=0$.
Hello @robjohn !! Are you familiar with fluid mechanics?
@evinda Yes, then all coefficients must be $0$. It may be best to say that if $c_1 y_1(x) + c_2y_2(x) \equiv 0$, then $c_1 \sqrt{x} y_1(x) + c_2 \sqrt{x} y_2(x) \equiv 0$, and then you have power series.
15:52
@DanielFischer Why can we write it like that:$c_1 \sqrt{x} y_1(x) + c_2 \sqrt{x} y_2(x) \equiv 0$ although $y_1(x)$ contains $x^{\frac{1}{2}}$ and $y_2(x)= x^{-\frac{1}{2}}$ ?
@evinda We have $c_1\sqrt{x}y_1(x) + c_2\sqrt{x}y_2(x) = \sqrt{x}(c_1y_1(x) + c_2y_2(x)) = \sqrt{x}\cdot 0 = 0$. I multiplied with $\sqrt{x}$ to get rid of the $x^{\pm\frac{1}{2}}$ in $y_1$ resp. $y_2$, so that from the multiplication we obtain a nice power series for each.
@DanielFischer So we say that $c_1 y_1(x)+ c_2 y_2(x)=0$ iff $c_1 \sqrt{x} y_1(x)+ c_2 \sqrt{x} y_2(x)=0$.

$c_1 \sqrt{x} y_1(x)+ c_2 \sqrt{x} y_2(x)=c_1 \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n x^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}+ c_2 \left( \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n x^{2n}}{(2n)!}+ \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n x^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}\right)$

Since $c_1 \sqrt{x} y_1(x)+ c_2 \sqrt{x} y_2(x)$ is a power series, there are $d_n \in \mathbb{R}$ such that $c_1 \sqrt{x} y_1(x)+ c_2 \sqrt{x} y_2(x)= \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} d_n x^n$ and since $c_1 \sqrt{x} y_1(x)+ c_2 \sqrt{x} y_2(x)=0 \forallx \in (0,R)$, $d_n=0 \foral
@DanielFischer Right?
16:13
@evinda Right. You can also recognise the power series involved here as $\sin x$ and $\cos x$, and use your knowledge of these functions.
Can you take a look and help out with this question? I feel pretty lost at this point, it seems even harder than I expected.
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Q: Can the sum of two measurable functions be non-measurable if they are valued in a general normed space instead of $ \mathbb{R} $?

OrmiIt's well known that the sum of measurable functions is measurable, if they are real or complex valued. However, the proofs I've seen heavily rely on the usage of the countable set of rational numbers. Which made me wonder, what happens if we don't have luxury of having a nice, countable and dens...

@DanielFischer So can we also justify that $y_1, y_2$ are linearly independent as follows?

$c_1 \sqrt{x} y_1(x)+ c_2 \sqrt{x} y_2(x)=c_1 \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n x^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}+ c_2 \left( \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n x^{2n}}{(2n)!}+ \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n x^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}\right)=c_1 \sin x+ c_2( \cos x+ \sin x)=(c_1+c_2) \sin x+ c_2 \cos x $

$\sin, \cos x $ are linearly independent, so it has to hold: $c_1+c_2=0 (1)$ and $c_2=0 (2)$

$(1) \overset{(2)}{\Rightarrow } c_1=0$
@DanielFischer Nice... Thank you very much!!! :)
@DanielFischer Hi
16:27
@JohnDoe Hi
@DanielFischer Do you maybe know why the vector space $\mathbb{C}$ is considered a one-dimensional vector space but $\mahtbb{R}^{2}$ is a two-dimensional vector space? If we take $(a,b) \in \mathbb{C}$ then can we not state $(a,b) = a(1,0) + b(0,1) = a(1,0) + ib$ where we can take $(1,0)$ and $(0,1)$ as basis vectors?
@JohnDoe $ \mathbb{C} $ is one dimensional as a vector space over itself, but two dimensional as a vector space over $ \mathbb{R} $
@JohnDoe It depends on the scalar field. $\mathbb{C}$ is one-dimensional when the scalar field is $\mathbb{C}$, and two-dimensional when the scalar field is $\mathbb{R}$. If we take $\mathbb{Q}$ as the scalar field, $\mathbb{C}$ is infinite-dimensional.
@BalarkaSen I guess I meant to say that you can retract the diagonal walls into the edge they are connected to on the middle walls, so squish it flat. You could also thing of unfolding it completely by pushing out till the diagonal walls are parallel with the middle wall, and you will have some triangle flaps, and then contract all that.
Thanks @Ormi and @DanielFischer
16:33
where the diagonal wall is the skew outside walls of the parallelepiped
16:48
I had a question about normal distribution curves or distribution curves in general. I understand the basic formula, but I was wondering if there was a way to give a min, max, and mean to find the covariance you need to use to create that certain curve. Is this possible?
Do you have an idea how we could show that $L_n$ satisfies the equation Laguerre if $a=n(n=1,2, \dots)$ ?
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Q: Differential equation Laguerre $xy''+(1-x)y'+ay=0, a \in \mathbb{R}$

evindaThe differential equation Laguerre $xy''+(1-x)y'+ay=0, a \in \mathbb{R}$ is given. Show that the equation has $0$ as its singular regular point . Find a solution of the differential equation of the form $x^m \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n x^n (x>0) (m \in \mathbb{R})$ Show that if $a=n$, where $n \in ...

17:33
@MaryStar I might be able to look at the equations, but I have not studied FM
My question is the following:

http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/187539/area-integrals-when-calculating-force-exerted-by-air-pressure

@robjohn
Feynman once said it is the most difficult branch of physics.
Hi @Danielfischer I just wanted to know if the following is correct: To show that a normed space is a topological vector space (as was done [math.stackexchange.com/questions/167890/… this post)) we first have to show that vector addition $V \times V \rightarrow V$ is continuous.
Is this equivalent to showing that $\forall \epsilon > 0$, $\exists \delta > 0$ such that if $\Vert x-x_{0} \Vert \leq \delta$ and $\Vert y-y_{0} \Vert \leq \delta$ then $\Vert (x+x_{0}) - (y-y_{0})\Vert \leq \epsilon$?
@TimDavids You have a typo, you probably meant $\lVert (x-x_0) + (y-y_0)\rVert$. That is equivalent.
@DanielFischer Yes thanks.
17:47
hi all
hi @robjohn
any probability people have any ideas about math.stackexchange.com/questions/1308085/… ?
@Masacroso how about these
$
\left(
\begin{array}{ccc}
0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0
\end{array}
\right)
$
$
\left(
\begin{array}{ccc}
1 & 0 \\ 0 & 1
\end{array}
\right)
$

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