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20:05
@Masacroso i need ur opinion about my answer in code review is it correct ?
@robjohn: I was looking at your recent double generating-function answer, and I wondered if there was a counting interpretation of that double GF.
with the thought that one could then find a counting interpretation of the original sum
when people use GF im turned spontaneously of thinking about another slangy interpretation :p
20:21
Could someone take a look at this question and help out a bit? math.stackexchange.com/questions/1291614/…
20:33
@Chris'ssistheartist your new name <3
20:43
@PaulPlummer As Mike already answered, they are hyperbolic. There is nothing topologically interesting to be said about those : knot complements are K(G, 1)s and universal cover of those are contractible.
@BalarkaSen Thanks
good that you've decided to learn algebraic topology. let me know if you have any interesting thoughts in mind/need help with something.
definitely!
21:00
@evinda that is completely separated. Just integrate.
$\left(
\begin{array}{ccc}
1 & 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0 & 1
\end{array}
\right)
$

$\left(
\begin{array}{ccc}
1 & 1 & 0 \\ 1 & 1 & 0 \\ 1 & 1 & 0
\end{array}
\right)
$

$\left(
\begin{array}{ccc}
0 & 1 & 1 \\ 0 & 1 & 1 \\ 0 & 1 & 1
\end{array}
\right)
$
gloomy hell
i have serious issues with latex
@Masacroso
You won't have serious issues if you don't take it so seriously ;-)
jk^
got it
@Semiclassical I am not sure. I have a difficult time coming up with combinatorial explanations for these identities. I will think on it.
21:04
@Vrouvrou with what?
part of why i wonder is that the simplified summation is just $1/(1-y-x/y)$
@Semiclassical That is the generating function.
right. not sure why i blanked on the phrase
@Semiclassical That is related to the question asked only after we substitute $x\mapsto-x^2$ and we integrate in $x$
hrm. good point
21:09
so I don't know if the function $\frac{y}{y(1-y)-x}$ is at all closely related to the sum we want in a descriptive manner.
yeah
there may still be---differentiating that GF to get back to the initial form, for example, may well have a sensible combinatorial meaning---but it's not obvious
@Semiclassical Yes. There is another double generating function that I used for another answer
I have no idea about that one either
i've got a few snake-oil answers myself, so i should probably start there
@Semiclassical snake-oil? You don't like generating functions?
oh, i do. that's just what Wilf calls that kind of GF approach
i.e. of introducing a GF summation in order to facilitate manipulation
(i may actually be using the phrase too broadly, hmm)
21:19
@Semiclassical that's what GFs are best used for... hmph
shrug, different name for the same thing
I'm shocked by the last result I got ... I go and sleep to recover myself after seeing it.
though i guess there one doesn't worry about actually evaluating the double summation
@Chris'ssistheartist what result was that?
@robjohn The evaluation of some series family.
21:33
does this seem like a redundant question to you guys for this question set i have. First question asks to find the axis of symmetry and its vertex for a trajectory.
Then the very next question asks me to find the maximum height.... which is surely the y coordinate of the vertex and so i have already calculated it !
this is an n-shaped parabola i should add
@Dave is there anything complicating the set-up (say, a wall?) else, i'm inclined to agree
nope its a simple trajectory
i need to learn more about trigonometric pascal triangle
Is there any way to compare the length of a differentiable and non-differentiable curve, the question came up in a discussing why is the geodesic in $ \mathbb R^2 $ a straight line.
*discussion
21:58
@Agawa001 Idk what to say about your answer on the python problem... it is very hard question
22:09
@Semiclassical @robjohn Ok , I will try to solve it...
@Semiclassical Could I also ask you something else?
According to my notes, the following theorem holds:

If $y$ is a local extremum for the functional $J(y)= \int_a^b L(x,y,y') dx$ with $y \in C^2([a,b]), \ y(a)=y_0, \ y(b)=y_1$ then the extremum $y$ satisfies the ordinary differential equation of second order $L_y(x,y,y')- \frac{d}{dx}L_{y'}(x,y,y')=0$ (Euler's equation).
I want to prove that Euler's equation of the problem $J(y)=\int L(t,y,y') dt$ can be written in the form $L_t- \frac{d}{dt}(L-y' L_{y'})=0$.
Not sure how I feel about this title: "Serge Lang never explains anything", it is funny but doesn't really say anything about the content, as Serge Lang does not explain anything, it could be about anything...
22:32
Hi guys,
is anyone familiar with garch modelling and forecasting?
22:49
@Vrouvrou You deleted your question. I wrote up an answer and when I tried to submit it, I couldn't.
length of non-differentiable curves, any directions?
23:04
@Masacroso my answer isnt formulated with python :/
and i dont think it s worth to be downrated
maybe, Idk... but surely not... when someone downrate at least he must comment or something
2
of course ^^ +1
what do u think about the example i provided
23:19
yes, it is @Agawa001... including row swapping too
and its isomorph
u know that $1+1=0$ in binary
@Agawa001 I know
and it was been proven with imaginary numbers :D
23:26
Hello quid!!! :)
Hello @evinda! How are you? It's been a while we have not talked.
Fine, thanks and you? Yes, it's been a while... At this period I have exams. On Friday I have my first one. @quid
@evinda Good luck! I hope it will be fine.
Thank you!!! :) When are the exams in your country? @quid
@evinda essentially now. they started a few weeks ago, but there are several possibilities so it is still ongoing till end of june.
23:33
@quid I see... And when are the exams of the subject that you teached?
i hate exams , it screws evrything u v been workin for during a whoooole year, by few minutes :'(
Some I few weeks ago, the next one in some weeks. At the moment I have break form exams. @evinda
@Agawa001 Do you also have exams now?
yes next saturday
and i work meanwhile
@quid Aha... So now you have only the research, right?
@Agawa001 Which subject?
23:36
signal pocessing
@Agawa001 Are you a student of a computer science department?
@evinda Yes. And advising. And administrative task. And reviewing. And... But it is alright. :-)
In which country do you study? @Agawa001
@quid Aha... :)
and im in permanent quarrel with my prometers and teachers
they r bastards
dont appreciate anything i do
23:39
@Agawa001 Do you have projects?
anyways , in life u must be somewhat tenacious
yes i had
and i always have
its something regular
@Agawa001 I see.. In which semester are you?
for example , last two months i had project in dwt compression
second
And how were you last exams? Did you pass all the subjects? @Agawa001
@quid Are you maybe familiar with functionals?
Hey @KarimMansour
i failed in some , i succeded in some
23:43
@evinda depends. not very much but a bit.
I have this question:
0
Q: The functional is not continuous in respect to the strong norm

evindaLet $V=C^1([a,b])$. If $J$ is a continuous functional for the norm $\|\cdot\|_\infty$ then it is continuous for the norm $\|\cdot\|_1$. But the converse is false. In my book there is the hint that we can use the functional of arc length, in order to show that the converse does not hold. The fun...

@Agawa001 Do you also have exams in September?
algorithmics is my trump always
my joker card :)
no , not in september
@Agawa001 I also take a subject from a cs department: Algorithms and complexity
Hi @evinda
how r u doing
Fine, thanks... and you? @KarimMansour
@KarimMansour Do you have exams now?
23:47
no I am taking only 1 class during the summer
3rd year mechanics
but I am self-studying topology,analysis, algebra over the summer too
In which month will you start? @KarimMansour
I started already
it will end 21 of august
the physics
Hello everyone :))))))
how about you @evinda
@KarimMansour My first exam is on Friday...
Hi @user159870
23:50
which exam
and which subject
@KarimMansour Methods of applied mathematics
@KarimMansour I found a guy that looks like you. Is it you?
discrete maths ?
23:51
@user159870
@evinda I do not know the answer, sorry. But it seems you need to show that $J$ is continuous in 1-norm and not cont in infty-norm. As it should be an example tthat the converse is not true that is an exacmple of cont in 1-norm does not imply cont in infty norm. SO the former should be true and the latternot.
I can't see in your brain @user159870
well good luck @evinda
@KarimMansour This guy
another troll :/
no @user159870
23:53
@KarimMansour Thank you!!! :)
I am not also a big fan of clubs too I never really go there waste of time
@quid Yes... No problem... :)
@KarimMansour Do you think you look similar?
yes kind of the eyes I guess
@KarimMansour :)))
23:55
@Agawa001 Do you take discrete maths?
when u said applied maths , i know its discrete maths
no i studied cryptography , which has something to do with applied maths
@Agawa001 No it isn't discrete maths...
u sure ?
@Agawa001 I also take cryptography
damn I am stuck in a question
23:57
@Agawa001 Yes, we do differential equations, functionals and so on.
maybe I should ask it here I don't like asking question in physicsstackexchange
ah ok

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