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00:00
alright, that's done
how're folks doing
Finally getting a bit into quals prep. Working through Atiyah-Macdonald at the moment, among other things. :)
good book, and good prep
that's good to hear!
It's a great book. I love the style. Not many words, but always enough to work out what they're saying.
I think when I'm handed a perfect, complete proof, it tends to wash over me much more easily.
It's a bit slower going though. I've spent a good number of hours trying to digest everything in the first chapter. Some of the techniques are very clever.
I appreciate that, yeah. The exercises are good, too. (I should start using a synonym of good)
They are. Some are really tough lol.
00:06
what does the notation Z^0 signifies ?
Some sections you can skip if you want (covered in the commutative algebra class, not covered on the qual): 4, 9 onwards. I'm not even sure ch5 is covered.
@robjohn I sent the generalization to AMM. Anyway, anything when sent to AMM means a lot of time to wait.
@Chris'ssis generalization to what?
Lots of canonical examples show up if you restrict to the k-algebra case. Here's a nice one: if $K/k$ is a nontrivial field extension, $K \otimes_k K$ is not an integral domain.
@robjohn To that series with 2014 I gave you.
00:08
@Chris'ssis Okay
Hmmmm. Good to know, thanks.
(I suggest writing that last one down as an exercise and trying to tackle it now and then. You don't have the tools yet, but will soon.)
I was probably going to read them, if only because they're useful for algebraic number theory. But it's a relief to know I don't have to know them for the quals, which are intimidating enough at the moment.
Oops. It should say finite nontrivial field extension.
Will do! I believe it came up on the Fall 2014 exam, didn't it?
00:11
Did it? I used a trick similar to it on that, I think.
Something very close. It had to do with tensoring $K$ with itself over $k$, and what that said about some related division algebra.
Ah, yeah, special case.
@DanielFischer Ok... Thank you!!! :-) @DanielFischer
Great stuff though. Commutative algebra is very beautiful.
I'm making much slower progress (though I guess I'm making slow progress on both) with my analysis self study.
00:15
@robjohn this is crazy ... :-)
$$\lim_{\large x\to i} \left(\frac{1}{2x^{4\infty}}-\frac{ 1}{2^2x^{4( \infty-1)}}+\frac{1}{2^3x^{4(\infty-2)}}- \cdots-\frac{1}{2^{4(\infty-2)}x^3} + \frac{1}{2^{4(\infty-1)}x^2}-\frac{1}{2^{4\infty}x}\right)$$
there is something I don't understand in this proof
1 moment will upload it
what is Z^0 here
I don't understand from this point onward
can someone explain ?
@KarimMansour interior
Be back later friends. See ya, @Mike. I'll be thinking about that exercise...
yeh I see
I like my proof that Z is open more
00:20
yeh
me 2
@robjohn However, it's not really corect ... sorry. Let me rewrite it.
@anon ok I understand the point of z * z_0Z = Z but how come we have zz_0 * Z0 = Z0 maybe we will get outside the interior that way
taking the interior commutes with left multiplication by a given element
@robjohn this was my idea $$\lim_{\large x\to i} \left(\frac{1}{2x^{4\infty}}-\frac{1}{2^2x^{4\infty-1}}+\frac{1}{2^3x^{4\infty-2‌​}}- \cdots-\frac{1}{ 2^{4\infty-2}x^3}+\frac{1}{2^{4\infty-1} x^2}- \frac{1}{2^{4\infty}x}\right)$$
Could you take a look at the following and tell if I have done something wrong??
00:26
@Chris'ssis Did you write it that way to AMM?
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@robjohn I didn't send that one to AMM. To AMM I sent the generalization of the problem with falling factorial only (all was nicely done, following the rules).
I still don't understand @anon
@Chris'ssis Oh, Okay. I wasn't sure if that was related. Sorry
@KarimMansour (aZ)^o equals aZ^0
00:27
yes
oh I see
so we are multiplying and then taking the interior I guess ?
ok makes sense
I didn't take a course in topology just read the stuff I need from munkrees
for my project.
indeed applying a homeomorphism and taking interiors commute. left-multiplication in a group is a homeomorphism.
@robjohn OK. Let me know if the solution seems obvious to this last one (when you have time). Sometimes I create problems and I might miss at first sight some obvious way.
oh I see
$$\phi(A^\circ)=\phi\left(\bigcup_{U\subseteq A}U\right)=\bigcup_{\phi(U)\subseteq\phi(A)}\phi(U)=\bigcup_{V\subseteq\phi(A)}V‌​=\phi(A)^\circ $$ where $\phi$ is a homemorphism, $U$ ranges over open subsets of $A$, and $V$ ranges over open subsets of $\phi(A)$.
@Chris'ssis what does the $\infty$ in the exponent mean? is that a second limit?
00:31
I see
@robjohn Yes, and now I see this one is obvious too. :-(
It looks like I'm too tired now.
@robjohn only replace $1/2$ by $y$ and all becomes obvious.
Out for some sleep.
00:47
It's very sad to see all your high school friends doing so well in life while you are struggling with mental illness, when you were smarter than all of them.
@JasperLoy I still think it's very sad to see all my high school classmates doing so well in life even when I was dumber than all of them
@Chris'ssis yes, I see that it is a geometric series, but the $\infty$ is a bit confusing.
@Chris'ssis is that $2^{-1}x^{-4n}-2^{-2}4^{-4n+1}+\cdots+2^{-4n+1}x^{-2}-2^{-4n}x^{-1}$ as $n\to\infty$?
@ᴇʏᴇs Can you understand how I feel? I could be doing so many things with my time but instead it has to be spent like that. No words can describe the pain.
01:03
@JasperLoy My uncle used to say (as a joke): "Just remember, no matter how bad it gets, there's always someone a little bit better off than you are."
The point is, if you spent your time comparing what is, to what the best possible outcome is, you are ALWAYS going to be disappointed.
You could win the Fields medal, but feel put out you didn't get the Nobel Prize.
Yea I get super depressed whenever I think about people like Gauss and how I will never do anything good in life but I deal with what I got
First and foremost, @JasperLoy, you have to love and take care of yourself.
The "world" isn't going to do this for you-in fact, your personal experience should tell you otherwise, the world is often HARMFUL to you.
So you have to shelter yourself, whatever it takes for that to happen.
If you were smarter than your friends in high school, then you STILL are. Some people are lucky, they have good parents, they never encounter demons that devour them. It may be hard to do, but you have to shut that out. You are on YOUR path-one's individuality, one's very singular identity is a GIFT.
Does anyone know of any examples of quasi-Hausdorff topological spaces?
define quasi-hausdorff
Just making a joke @MikeMiller. Pete (in the tradition of Bourbaki apparently) does this thing where he'll add "quasi" in front of anything that isn't necessarily Hausdorff.
Ex. Quasi-compact
01:16
ugh
of course it's the algebraists, who care about non-hausdorff spaces, that call compactness quasi-compactness; and the topologists, who care less about non-hausdorff spaces, who say 'compact hausdorff'
so everyone is making more work for themselves :p
hahaha
01:28
hi @Kaj; good night, @Mike.
morning ted
Hey @TedShifrin. Turns out I got a perfect score on Pete's exam :D
Granted, it wasn't that difficult, but I digress.
clearly he's not working you folk enough
I heard from Pete, @Kaj. Congratulations. I wish he'd put one more challenging problem on there to distinguish a bit more. But that's my style. I digress, too.
No, he's working them plenty, @Mike. He's just copping out on testing. He tends to do that.
For example, teaching calculus, he can't be bothered to teach/test word problems. :(
Perhaps that's a slight exaggeration, but it's pretty much what he's told me.
I suspect the final will be a bit more rigorous, since his justification for a weak midterm was the 50 minute time slot.
01:30
I think it's silly to grade with tests if they're not going to be used effectively for performance evaluation.
heya @Stan
well, @Mike, if you're going to give everyone A's, what does it matter? :D
I don't expect creative thinking on tests, but I do want to see mastery of the basics and some mid-level stuff.
@TedShifrin hey Ted! I'm still muddling through this exterior algebra stuff. Now that I've learned a bit, I want to know what I can use it for. Oh, and I learned what a ring is. That's stuff is awesome. I didn't know they were so cool
I actually just answered a diff geo question on here which I'd never seen before. That doesn't happen much (at the undergrad level).
LOL, @Stan. Sounds so cute :P
Differential forms are really the right way to do vector integral calculus, especially if you want to do it beyond $\Bbb R^3$ or on manifolds.
Exterior algebra also is important in algebraic geometry and certain aspects of algebraic topology ...
Hi @Ted
01:34
@Mike: My San Diego friends just sent me a Craigslist link to a gorgeous condo some friends of theirs are renting out. Just a bit too large (and rather too expensive) for me. Sigh.
hi, mr eyeglasses.
We can go halfsies, @Ted
Oh? @Mike
Just kidding. :P
Indeed.
Besides, you're probably a slob.
:D
heya @JMoravitz
@TedShifrin Yeah, the tensor product is really cool. And actually going through that has made me realize I don't know what a form is at all. I thought it was just a map $V \rightarrow \Bbb{R}$ but clearly that was not true at all. I think that's the disadvantage of reading a physicists view first.
01:36
saying 'exterior algebra is important...' makes it sound like a field in its own right :p
Good evening @Ted
At a single point, a $1$-form is a linear map $V\to\Bbb R$, but a $k$-form is, at a point, an element of $\Lambda^k(V^*)$.
Never trust a physicist, @StanShunpike
If you want to see far-reaching consequences (a lot of Elie Cartan's handiwork), take a look at Exterior Differential Systems, by Bryant, Griffiths, Chern, Goldschmidt (in some order). Lots of partial differential equations and applications to differential and algebraic geometry.
That book is on my "take with me" list :P
That's awesome! What a neat combination. It's like the best of both worlds.
01:39
P.S. It's a hard book ... definitely graduate/research level.
lol I'm used to being in over my head. I kind of like it that way.
Well, @Stan, it needs to be within reason :P
@Mike, one of my students told me today that she hated to admit it but my diff geo class has become one of her favorite classes as an undergrad.
Hi @Ted @Kaj @Mike
01:41
That's great.
Hey there @Committingtoachallenge
Yes, @AlexW. And hi to you :)
Omg, differential geometry is amazing. I wish they had told us about it in high school. I thought geometry was boring.
@Committingtoachallenge I die and my next of kin doesn't pay the hosting bills
hi @Committing
01:41
Cool that it's available online.
@AlecTeal Have you got multiple things off of that domain(?)?
oh, @Stan, there's all sorts of cool Euclidean geometry, even. Go get Pedoe's book Geometry: A Comprehensive Course (oh, and he uses exterior algebra bit in it).
I wonder if it's legally available on-line :)
Pedoe's book, what an unfortunate name.
Also @Committingtoachallenge like?
Well, this is the MSRI library, isn't it? Unless that's a faux web address.
british name, @Alec ... accent on the second syllable, ass ...
01:43
Cool cool. Pete's put up our new problem set for those who are interested: http://math.uga.edu/~pete/4200HW_five.pdf
@JulianRachman, @BalarkaSen
@AlecTeal Your proof wiki
@TedShifrin I just got it in the mail. Yeah, after learning a bit of non-Euclidean geometry, I couldn't resist learning some Euclidean geometry.
@Stan: YOu got what in the mail?
Hello new Jasper Loy
Oh, he does non-Euclidean in there, too ... lots of projective geometry. He even does the 27 lines on a cubic surface in there.
01:44
@TedShifrin Pedoe
Hi, I am still alive.
he's just now getting to a general topological space? interesting...
oh, cool, @Stan: Did I recommend that to you earlier or did you find it somehow else?
rehi @Jasper
I got two emails about that last night, so I knew that @Jasper
I realized Dover books = cheap and smart
So I just buy when I see them
01:44
@Committingtoachallenge night
some of them are superb, some not so special, @Stan.
If you don't want my multivariable book, I recommend C.H. Edwards's Advanced Calculus in Dover.
Around midnight I am pretty sure
@TedShifrin, wasn't Edwards UGA faculty at some point? I remember seeing that somewhere.
01:46
@TedShifrin Not to hate on Apostol, but I feel like he bungled multivariable.
I learned the fundamental theorems from my electrodynamics book
@MikeMiller phhbbbbbbbt
yes, @Kaj, I'm in his old office. He was our first Meigs winner.
I didn't realize they were fundamental theorems until I read that. So I felt like Apostol just didn't organize it as well. It's overall superb, but I think easier if you know some of it already.
no, Apostol's fine, but perhaps as a number theorist that stuff isn't his forte, @Stan. Check out Bamberg and Sternberg, A Course in Mathematics for Students in Physics.
Cool, I'll look into it. I have a huge library fortunately. U of C is quite large.
the library i mean
01:48
oh, @ted, just before you had to leave for lecture earlier you said you knew a nice proof of that determinant property i'd mentioned
U of C ? Be more specific :)
UChicago
lolol I forgot. I've lived here forever
oh, you're near U of C? Awesome, @Stan. Fabulous math department, although a bit on the off-the-deep-end side.
LOL everyone here seems off the deep end sometimes....
i.e. that if you're working with block matrices whose block elements commute, taking the entire determinant is the same as taking the determinant block-wise and then again element-wise
01:50
@Semiclassical. Yes, if $A,B,C,D$ are $n\times n$ and $AC=CA$, then $$\det\begin{bmatrix} A & B \\ C & D \end{bmatrix} = \det(AD-CB),$$ if I remember correctly.
I'll give you the hint for the proof when $A$ is invertible. You can then use various methods to deduce that it holds even when $A$ is not.
that's the 2-by-2 case, yes. this note gives a proof of the n-by-n case
@Stan: here means there or here means here? :D
Off the deep end? What's that supposed to mean, @Ted?
oh, at UChicago lolol
here as in UChicago
That means a little weird or nuts @MikeMiller
and it's that which i'm trying to see if there's a more elegant approach. the one in there uses induction and properties of monic polynomials
01:51
Their honors "multivariable" course is crazy, like MATH 55 at Harvard. I'm not a fan of that, @Mike.
Why not? @TedShifrin Especially if the kids are USAMO golds and the like.
I know what the phrase means, @Stan. I was looking for specifics. Now I have them. :)
Ah, okay. Silly me then.
Even their intro calculus courses are pretty tough.
The number of things ever starred in here is at its first pents ever!
01:52
@Kaj: atudents that aren't USAMO golds might feel they need to take it to be taken seriously. And if they're not ready, it will not be pretty.
What's math 55?
11111 things have been starred ever(quintuple!!)
Because people should learn the concrete stuff right before they're off in Banach spaces and have no idea what's going on, @Kaj.
but i figure there has to be something more direct that just uses the abstract characterization of the determinant @Ted (i may, of course, be misguided in that hope)
That too.
01:54
Why does noone care about post and star milestones, am I strange?
They still have a Spivak freshman course. We finally abandoned ours ... Chicago may be the only university that basically does not accept AP credit. That makes a big difference.
Caltech doesn't either
@Semiclassical: But we've discussed that there is no abstract description of a determinant over a noncommutative ring, @Semiclassical. Not even something as nice as the quaternions.
with good reason. I found out my first year why.
@Semiclassical: My proof is based on the ideas of row operations, or basically, on the product rule for determinants. There is an exterior algebra interpretation of that if you don't like a standard proof of the product rule for determinants.
Were you at CalTech, @Stan?
01:55
Yeah, I transferred to be closer to my family.
You're an undergrad, right @Stan? Or have you graduated?
as i said earlier, i'm discussing the case where the blocks commute, i.e. the blocks lie in a commutative subring of the matrix ring
Some of us try to get away from family :P
so the determinant still makes sense in that setting
Not mine, mine is awesome. :D
01:56
Be careful, @Semiclassical. I'm talking about $AC=CA$, but not all blocks commute.
@Semiclassical The condition that the blocks commute is a weaker condition than them lying in a commutative subring.
Oh. Sorry, I didn't see that. I wouldn't be surprised if you could get a nice proof that way when you assume all blocks commute, @Semic.
Yeah, what @DavidW said ...
@TedShifrin So how did you end up in Georgia?
Are you from there?
well, let me quote the theorem i'm looking at in the note i linked
01:57
It's called a job, @Stan ... at a good department ... but the way times are changing in American universities, it's pretty clear to me that they'll never hire someone like me again.
No, no, I grew up in Berkeley and Boston, @Stan ... heading back to CA for the rest of my life.
@TedShifrin That's what Peter Higgs said.
:p
@TedShifrin What do you mean "like me"
Who's Peter Higgs, and what is what he said?
@DavidW: Someone who's done some very good research but has been primarily undergraduate- (and some graduate-) teaching- and student-oriented.
@TedShifrin Peter Higgs won the Nobel prize last year in physics for predicting this thing called the Higgs Boson. And he said he doesn't think he would be hired in today's academic environment.
Universities are turning into money mills ... it's all about grant money and not about caring about quality education.
01:59
So, they'll go more towards "researchers"?
Let $R$ be a commutative subring of $F^{n\times n}$, where $F$ is a fi eld (or a commutative ring), and let $\mathbf{M}\in R^{m\times n}$. Then $\det_F(\mathbf{M})=\det_F(\det_R(\mathbf{M}))$.
Oh, that Higgs ... Well, I take what he says with several grains of salt.

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