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23:00
LOL
@TedShifrin I wish I had a professor like you!
If you talk to some of my students, @FreeMind, you'll change your mind. But some wouldn't hate me :)
@DanielFischer I'll ping him again in a week or so to remind him.
hahah, but your overall ratemyprofessor grade should be good I think
Only because the lovers and not the haters responded :)
23:02
@RandomVariable Good. Hope something will be found.
But I am almost maxed out on hard or demanding, @FreeMind.
@TedShifrin I read the transcript, I wasn't annoyed by the removal of my messages. Maybe they thought I was, but I wasn't.
@TedShifrin Sorry, I've been out.
I thought you and Pedro were very civil. I don't know what you said, @Jasper, and I don't want to know, but please don't say stuff like "I shouldn't have voted for you" unless you really mean it. It's been too contentious around here, unnecessarily, IMHO.
23:03
@skullpatrol What's that?
@TedShifrin Good, I didn't believe in ratemyprofessor, but I made a mistake and took a Philosophy class with an evil, I failed the course and understood the value of this site :)
@TedShifrin Well, that was meant to be taken with a sense of humour.
wb = welcome back @JasperLoy
Sometimes, teaching evaluations turn into a popularity/easiness contest, and I hate that, @FreeMind. I'm on a committee to award our highest university teaching award, and I'm very aware of the teachers whom everyone loves because they're undemanding.
Hi everyone :)
23:04
Hi
@Jasper: I know there's been a lot of crap thrown at Pedro. I don't know how much humor or humour he has. But I hope you'll stay friends.
@TedShifrin There is no problem with me and @PedroTamaroff, the whole joke may have been misinterpreted as hostile by some.
Yuppers.
I think everything in chat has multiple interpretations, that's the beauty and danger.
I know most of us try to maintain a pleasant and professional demeano(u)r here ... with some notable exceptions. :D
23:06
@TedShifrin What matters is not easiness but flexibility, I had professors who taught courses in a way that students starved to death because of the difficulty of the course so they didn't have time to pick up a snack from vending machine :D
But got A
Some professors teach bad, evaluate students awfully, grade harshly!
well, @FreeMind, I typically have 3 to 4 times the number of office hours per week as the normal faculty member, so I'm available to help students. Even when I was research active, I was more available and still graded homeworks in upper-level courses. Just my stupidity, I guess.
sed s/stupidity/dedication/
@TedShifrin I believe you did the right thing, but those bone idle professors corrupt the place.
OH, and by the way, it's almost never the students who really need the help who show up. It's the over-achievers and those who love what they're doing, not the ones who are going to flunk, typically. :(
well, @FreeMind, it is my belief that I'm a dinosaur. I don't think someone will survive in research university academia with my attitude in this day and age.
@TedShifrin That at least has the advantage of making the tutoring sessions during office hours more interesting, hasn't it?
23:08
@TedShifrin In what manner? What attitude in particular?
@TedShifrin I remember I was in a calculus class, one of the students got out the handsfree and played a porno sound loudly, professor hanged for a moment, then laughed with the whole class! :|
Well, @DanielF, I still end up discussing one problem a dozen times or more. :)
a porno sound? huh? :D
Yeah :D
@TedShifrin But the more interesting ones, hopefully.
@FreeMind What is a porno sound?
@DanielFischer Moaning.
23:10
Yeah
Moaning :|
@Mike: I think UGA was unusually willing to reward exceptional dedication to teaching. Now promotions seem to be becoming even more research and research-grant based. Not at the wonderful liberal arts schools, but at the Research I schools, I doubt I'd get through.
heterosexual moaning or bisexual moaning or homosexual moaning? :D
It was crazy, I was completely stressed and shameful about the reaction of the professor toward the student, he just laughed !
@TedShifrin There's a difference between those three?
I think some people are going to come in and flag us soon, lol.
LOL
Probably so, @Jasper
23:11
@TedShifrin Don't dissect the issue , it was the intercourse moaning!
I always laugh very hard when a student comes up with a great pun (or a horrible pun) or some sort of humorous remark. Sometimes I get into a humor battle. Sometimes I'm undone :)
@Mike: difference among three, not between. Tut, tut.
@TedShifrin, how does one insert a ~ in a LaTeX document?
I don't care, @Ted.
It wasn't appropriate thing to say, sorry for it, however, I want to know how would you react to the same situation if that student had done the same thing in your class?! @TedShifrin
23:12
\~
@Kaj: \~ :P
oh, Jasper done beat me.
My latex is limited to 5 min of reading about it now, but I happen to remember this.
I'd probably make a rather low-brow comment, @FreeMind. I might ask who's issuing the invitation. (I think most of my students, if not all, know I'm gay.)
Are you gay?
He just said he is
23:14
I just said so :D
For real? Joking?
For real.
Thanks, @Jasper :)
Oh, I didn't know :D
I am not gay but I like Taylor Lautner.
23:14
You can even tell if you look on my webpage, @FreeMind. Not that it matters.
Weird. I couldn't get \~ to compile, but I guess I got \sim to work.
Good enough for me.
@JasperLoy What a common interest, cuz I like Taylor swift :)
oh, I guess I've used \~ in \tt mode, @Kaj.
All this popular culture is over my head.
@TedShifrin Hey Ted, what are good books to learn about bundles and connections? I find Kobayashi very heavy-going and tough to learn from.
@JasperLoy Why being a Gay when there are lots of **** girls? :D
23:17
@FreeMind Because there are lots of **** boys.
@JasperLoy What a witty remark ! :D
Kobayashi is very tough, @Mark. There are numerous diff geo books. There's also a lovely book that's introductory on this stuff, but I'm blanking on the name (and I gave mine to one of my undergraduates). Let me try to summon up the name.
@TedShifrin You mention it on your webpage?
There are obvious links, @Jasper, yes.
And a forced 'this page is not endoresed by the government of Georgia' or so, if I recall.
23:21
LOL, you're too studious, @Studentmath
@TedShifrin Yeah, but most I find deal with linear connections or mention bundles in passing.
:P I recall it made me laugh
I was once approached by a gay because he thought I was one.
I wonder where is Hippa. He lived in southern France, right?
I don't know what made him think so.
23:22
no, Hippa is in Paris, @Studentmath.
Oh, really?
He's ok. He's been on since all the drama.
Good to know. Sucks to be when such things happen.
I hope to make progress on my mental problems this year @TedShifrin I will update you guys on how it goes.
We hope so, @Jasper.
23:26
I am thinking of the thing that bit me is a bed bug, but I think my sheets are clean...
Wash them again.
Here comes @Chris'ssis
Greetings
Hail Ms Ramanujan.
@Mark: The book I was thinking of is by Darling, Differential Forms and Connections. Generally, most geometry books do more with principal bundles. You find more in complex geometry will deal with connections on vector bundles. :)
If I ever LaTeX up all my graduate course notes, @Mark, they'll be helpful, but that'll be way too late for you :P
23:32
Did you watch the documentary on the real hawking @JasperLoy?
Thanks, @Ted. I find the abstractness difficult to plow through. I wish I was more able to do calculations to become more familiar. Complex geometry sounds nice, but I fear it requires too much complex analysis I'm not familiar with (yet, at least).
My current interests lie in Mathematical Physics and Geometric Analysis. I was hoping to make the paths cross, somehow, @Ted.
@Mark, if you want to email me, I can send you scanned handwritten notes. @Mike complains that he can't read them, but I'm happy to share. ... Those paths do definitely cross.
@Ted I'm working on learning/deepening my knowledge of Analysis, Geometry and Physics right now. Taking a gap year to do so. I just finished my bachelor in pure mathematics.
ah, so have you done a serious multivariable analysis course, @Mark?
I love this sensation of getting the job done.
Yes, I have some experience. I had multidimensional real analysis as an undergraduate, classical differential geometry and tried undergraduate research on cartan's method of moving frames.
23:36
oooh, if you've got experience with Cartan, my notes will be perfect.
However, I didn't learn much through the undergraduate research because my advisor was unorganized and not so knowledgeable about the subject. He is a differential geometer, but he was unfamiliar with the method.
oh :(
I won't ask who it was :)
The whole project was a way for him to learn what was going on (as for me, I was lost in the way).
:)
The beginnings are in a section of my undergraduate notes, @Mark, on my webpage. But I teach the graduate courses using moving frames, with some discussion of the standard covariant derivative stuff.
Good night all!
23:38
night, @Studentmath :)
Good night, @studentmath.
At my university they try to cram too much into a single subject. The multidimensional real analysis course, for example, deals with topology in R^n, differentiation, inverse and implicit function theorems, manifolds, immersions, submersions, constant rank theorem, multiple integration, integration on manifolds and Stokes's theorem.
well, most of that makes sense, @Mark
There are other problems. That is a graduate course, but it is given for undergraduates with no prior exposure to any of it at the fifth or sixth semester.
It does, @Ted, I don't disagree with the ordering. But I find that it's too much when you have 2 or 3 other graduate courses for your undergraduate semester.
oh, 2 or 3 others is wayyyy too much, @Mark.
Even my super-star undergraduates take only 2 hard classes a semester ... occasionally 3, but only in exceptional cases.
Last time I checked, they placed it together with graduate measure and ring/field/Galois theory courses. Quite a fun semester, @Ted (not).
Some professors don't know the material they're teaching...I could ramble on.
23:43
way too much @Mark.
@Ted Yeah, my undergraduate degree wasn't particularly great.
Well, if you learned everything you studied, you'd be in great shape, @Mark :)
Unfortunately, much of studying was dissipated in heat, @Ted :(
I'm outta here for now :P
Goodbye, @Ted. Great talking to you.
23:48
Bye Professor @TedShifrin

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