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21:02
@robjohn The non-alternating version has a nice closed form.
@Semiclassical It's hard to play with hyperbolic series without having knowledge of some elliptic integrals.
Like $\eta(i)$ I met last days ...
In mathematics, the Dedekind eta function, named after Richard Dedekind, is a modular form of weight 1/2 and is a function defined on the upper half-plane of complex numbers, where the imaginary part is positive. == Definition == For any such complex number τ, let q = exp(2πiτ), and define the eta function by, The notation is now standard in number theory, though many older books use q for the nome . Its 24th power gives, where Δ is the modular discriminant. The presence of 24 can be understood by connection with other occurrences, such as in the 24-dimensional Leech lattice. The eta function...
Hi creatures from underworld
@IceBoy
@IceBoy wassup?
21:17
chillin' like a villian, you?
@IceBoy so far so good
@Chris'ssis ah. i would've thought that's closer to the elliptic functions side (which i know far worse)
Hey @IceBoy and the rest of the room. Slowly my MSE world is increasing!!
@Chinny84 In what sense?
21:21
@Semiclassical Yeah, right, it's about the elliptic functions.
@HipsterMathematician Hi.
@Chinny84 it'll decrease as you know more users
@HipsterMathematician What do you mean?
21:23
@JasperLoy the explanation doesn't fit here
@HipsterMathematician I get it.
@IceBoy dats mean
:D))
21:25
I'm stuck again
Too sleepy, only less than 4 sleep hours last night ...
@HipsterMathematician So when are you getting married?
I'm out
later
21:27
@JasperLoy I don't know yet i'll have to graduate first and have a job
@IceBoy i need help to think
askaway
you have two independent dices rolled multiple times until all possible pairs (a,a) appear at least once
then i have o fins the expected value of the number of times you rolled the dices and the standard deviation
Howdy!
21:34
I got a question, after the end of a semester - abstaining from math for about a week or two my brain feels a bit 'empty' after starting doing math again but rolls back to normal after studying and solving exercises, is that normal??
Glad to see I'm not the only one... :)
@HipsterMathematician are you an undergrad or a grad?
@HipsterMathematician what year? pardon my curiosity
21:38
@HipsterMathematician 2nd here, what are the fields that interest you the most?
@Nickolas Corn fields
@TheGame excuse me?
@Nickolas Just a pun :)
@Nickolas topology, numerical methods, some algebra, set theory,
i'm applied mathematician
linear algebra is cool too
complex analysis
@HipsterMathematician interesting, I'm taught topology this semester, looks intriguing
21:43
@Nickolas it's nice
@jasperloy it is due to my evolution from the stackexchange site to meta and now onto chats. But I was being rather over dramatic ;).
@hipstermathematician ah depends on the rate of new users vs the rate of users I meet, no? Or I completely mis read your msg!!
@HipsterMathematician not a huge fan of algebra, I'm mostly fond of computability theory, cryptography (CS related math in general) but i also like combinatorics probability theory and calculus!
@Chinny84 not exactly
@Nickolas interesting
So what topics are people (in this chat room) covering at the moment maths wise? Self taught, course etc? I can kick off with probability theory in particular the mathematics underpinning stochastic calc
@Chinny84 are you a physist?
21:58
@Nickolas physist physicist
@nickolas used to be? I hold a phd in physics.
physics grad student here. if you've got a phd in physics, you might be able to guess what my research has been like :)
based on my name, i mean
@IceBoy pardon my typography, the word physicist derives from the Greek work physis, being Greek I guessed that was the way to spell it.
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@Semiclassical I'm a math undergrad, I just made a guess :)
@Nickolas that is one of the coolest phrases i've seen it here in times
@semicassical given your awesome answers I guessing you are theoretical physicist like I was ;)? If not then you could be a "mentalist" (here I am covering all bases) .. So what is your research field?
22:02
heh. the work i've done has all revolved around semiclassical methods in mathematical physics. stuff like WKB approximation, though more on the 'how do i apply' rather than 'how do i derive'
b/c justifying WKB approximations is annouying, but calculating action integrals is fun :P
I used WKB whilst studying plasma physics (my research area) .. But back then I would apply (try) all sorts of techniques.. Especially perturbation theory for nonlinear odes. So which area are you focused on? Or better still which length scale ;)?
wb Professor @TedShifrin
rehi skull
in principle, quantum mechanics. but really it's more mathematical physics.
(or, more realistically, too much math to be physics but too much physics to be math :<)
actually, the main 'model' we used when writing our main paper was just a classical stat mech problem
whose partition function can be represented by a statistical field theory, which can be modeled like a QFT problem, which in turn has certain things which can be computed like in QM
so you end up being able to say, for instance, that the pressure of the system is given by the lowest energy level of a certain periodic 1D quantum problem
...with the bizarre aspect being that, depending on the charges in the model problem, your hamiltonian can be non-hermitean
Awesome. So you used used minimisation of an eigenvalue problem? Of sorts.
22:10
that sounds about right
you also had things like certain energies of charge transport being given by the splitting of levels in the quantum sense
more recently we were trying to do similar things for semiclassical transport of certain spin problems (specifically, tunnel splittings of large spin magnetic molecules)
...not very successfully, i feel like
My quantum mechanics days were gone before I did my phd. Sadly. I was looking at MHD theory so a smoothed scale above the stat mech (kinetic theory). I was always intrigued about the transport equations as they have an important place in turbulence dynamics for tokamaks.
gotcha. my transport theory expertise is frankly pretty bad
i'm really more of a math guy than a physics guy, which has gotten to be an issue
It is an issue but then you have to look at Edward Witten and realise that you can be both. I was always a more capable maths guy than the rest of the physics phd students at the time.. But I would definitely say I can hold my own with most math undergrads in the more applied maths (and not so applied) but as for beyond that I would have to accept that I am more of physics than maths.
yes, well, i'm pretty sure i'm not Ed Witten :>
and the real issue is that i'm at that stage in my phd where you're either making progress or you've burnt yourself out trying to make progress, and i'm definitely in the latter category right now
That last msg was rather convoluted for me. But I feel the best way to resolve the issue you have is to focus on the mathematics and use the physics as an application. I was asked in my viva was a trained mathematician ;/..
22:21
heh, nice
being good at math and good at reading about math, unfortunately, are not the same as being good at research, and i don't see a future for me in that.
so, readjustments are in order
anyways, gotta head out for now
I get you on that point. I am a data scientist /risk developer now (so maybe not the best person in terms of advice for academia ;) ) . See ya.
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A: Check: Let G be an abelian group. Show $\{ x \in G | x^n=e$ for some $n\in \mathbb{Z} \}$ is a subgroup of G.

amWhyA subset of a group doesn't necessarily have closure. To show closure, you need to select two arbitrary elements of $A$, say $x, y \in A$, and show that $xy \in A$. Let $x, y \in A$. Then $x^n = e, y^n \in e$, where $n\in \mathbb Z$. Then $x^ny^n = ee = e = (xy)^n$, because $G$ is abelian. Hence...

This answer is wrong.
@JasperLoy then say
@HipsterMathematician There is already a comment there. I just can't stand it, that's all.
22:31
@HipsterMathematician Also, you know why I can't stand it. =)
@JasperLoy yes yes i know
@HipsterMathematician What are you going to do after graduation?
@jasperloy I don't know why? I think I know why.
@JasperLoy i'm trying to get started now
OMG, the wrong answer has an upvote now, lol.
@HipsterMathematician I don't understand what you are saying, lol.
22:38
@JasperLoy the path for a job
@JasperLoy I'll put academic life aside a bit for a while
 
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23:45
hey just asking
how do you do the fancy formatting here
like the LaTeX
@Chris'ssis Ohhh... No wonder I was confused. I was thinking they were talking about the Dirichlet eta function.
Of course the product was $\eta(i)$
@dydx here
:-)
@dydx You can also look here, but it leads to the same external page.
thank you so much man!
@dydx You know LaTeX? There is a Tutorial of sorts here.

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