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12:00
just a simple question.
Show that $5u_{xx}+4u_{xy}+4u_{yy} = 0$ is elliptic
first of all gotta get this in standard form
$5u_{xx}+2(2)u_{xy}+4u_{yy} = 0$
so $ a = 5, b = 2, c = 4$
then . $b^2-ac$ so $4-20$ but that is $-16$ . How is this elliptic if $ y <0$?!
I thought it's hyperbolic if $ y <0$, parabolic if $ y =0$ (easiest one) and $ y >0$ is elliptic
eh?!
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@usukidoll Is it so? I was under the impression that it is elliptic when $b^2 - ac <0$, hyperbolic when $b^2 - ac >0$ and parabolic when $b^2 - ac = 0$
that's what my outline book said
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@usukidoll I am not sure how the sign of $y$ enters into the classification.
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@usukidoll but I am hardly an expert
12:07
@Chris'ssis It looks as if you've already computed it
@robjohn can you look at my problem * points up*
@robjohn well, to compute it without Mma, I mean.
@Chris'ssis Ah, so Mathematica was able to do it.
@robjohn Yeah.
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I have a transport problem that I'm trying to solve: math.stackexchange.com/questions/817619/…
Anyone would mind having a quick look and making suggestions? I do obtain a solution but it doesn't exactly make sense, but I cannot find an error in my derivation.
12:11
I am sad, and dont now what to do abut it
@usukidoll It is elliptic if the characteristic equation has no real roots; it's parabolic if it has a repeated root; and it's hyperbolic if it has two distinct roots. In this case, $4x^2+(x+2)^2=0$ has no real roots.
characteristic equation like $b^2-ac$?
O__O!
@usukidoll No, the characteristic equation is $5x^2+4xy+4y^2$ for this PDE
and then what do I do next?
to make it homogeneous
@usukidoll compute the roots of the characteristic polynomial
12:16
with the $b^2-ac$?
$\frac{-4\pm\sqrt{4^2-4\cdot5\cdot4}}{2\cdot5}$
you mean the usual quadratics?
what the heck is going on here? my outline book says this and everyone else says that..
to be honest I prefer the that
which is now
and i just caught an imaginary because 16-20 is - 4 and that's 2i . eeyup no real roots
@usukidoll $16-80=-64$
oh yah
sorry can't see small numbrs
so that's 8i
So there are no real roots, and the equation is elliptic
12:21
wow how come my outline book said otherwise.. this is schuams onlines
The operator is represented by multiplying the Fourier Transform by $5x^2+4xy+4y^2$ and if there are no real roots, this can be inverted to give good smoothness to the solutions.
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@Chris'ssis @G.T.R do you know where I can find an e-book version of C. Cosnita , F. Turtoiu . (1972) Problems of algebra ? :D :)
@Chris'ssis Does the Abel Summation work here ? :)
Great, the law of total variance brought me to $Var(i)+E(i^2-i), 1\le i \le 6, P(i=n)=\frac{1}{6}$. Now what do I even...
@r9m It might work ;)
@r9m hmmm, not sure ...
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@Chris'ssis I need it for cooking something ;) :P
12:28
Fourier???????? never learned it
Ah that's actually not that bad.
@r9m If I find something I'll let you know. I need to look over many Gb of books ...
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@Chris'ssis okay ... thanks a ton :D
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@usukidoll The Fourier transform maps linear differential operators to polynomials, so that's how you get the characteristic polynomial for these equations in the first place
@r9m Actually that is the way I did it without pen and paper. :D
12:31
@Chris'ssis: If it is okay for you, can you please post the solution to that dilogarithm problem again? I am curious about it. Thanks! :-)
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@Chris'ssis hehe .. you are Sir. Lancelot !! :D you know how to fight dragons without the lance better :)
@r9m Did you evaluate my dilogarithm integral?
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@Chris'ssis not yet .. I'm still working on it :-}
@PranavArora It depends. I don't like to see my question, my work on main. Otherwise, it's ok.
@PranavArora @r9m
No, I am not asking you to post it on main, just the solution. :)
Ah thanks! :)
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12:35
@Chris'ssis I won't look at it (not yet) :P
;)
@r9m you will suffer then ... :-)))
I didn't know about the identity, thanks, got to learn something new! :)
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@Chris'ssis ya .. that's my everyday life ... I always suffer :P (I complain and I do nothing about it :P)
@PranavArora Try to find another way there. It is possible! I have 2 solutions there.
@r9m We need to suffer (actually) ... :-(
@Chris'ssis: I am not sure if I will be able to find one, I recently started with dilogarithms but I will definitely try. :)
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12:40
@Chris'ssis So you believe .. that without true understanding of suffering there is no happiness ? :P
@r9m If only considering math area, one needs to suffer a lot to get some peaks ... (maybe there are some exceptions though - I don't know)
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@Chris'ssis hmm .. maybe :D
How can i render that ^ in latex ?
@r9m was that even translated ?
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@G.T.R I dont know ... :|
12:49
\[
\left(
\begin{array}{c|c}
A & X\\
\hline
\,^tX & \lambda
\end{array}
\right)
\]
@G.T.R D'ailleurs, ça s'est passé comment l'X/ENS ?
@r9m you saw it quoted in Putnam and beyond, right ?
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@G.T.R ya .. the google search showed that its also referenced it P&B ... but I saw it in a paper that discusses an inequality conjecture due to Totik
@AlexJBest ty
@Chris'ssis how cheap is that ? olx.ro/oferta/…
12:54
Given the previous problem, is there a faster way to do $P(Y\ge 5|X$ is even $)$, other than summing for each $i=2,4,6$ $1-[P(Y_i=1)+...+P(Y_i=4)]$?
@r9m lol,that's 3 euros. you should ask chris to get it for you and send it via mail
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@G.T.R nah .. if its not for free I don't need it ... :P .. besides if its not pdf I won't be able to translate it :P
@G.T.R 3.42 Eur
@Chris'ssis what can you buy with 15 lei in terms of food ?
Hey everyone, I have a basic understanding of mathematics (A-Level) and want to keep learning. What resources would you suggest when wanting to solve problems such as those on project euler?
12:58
@G.T.R 3 bottles of milk :D (I always think of milk)
hi @Chris'ssis, @Studentmath, salut @GTR @Hippa
@TedShifrin hoi
Hey Prof. @Ted
@TedShifrin Hello! :-)
What I said yesterday was utter nonsense, @Studentmath. If $X$ and $Y$ are random variables, "$X$ and $Y$" makes no sense. :P
It's the confusion of using $X$ both for an event and for a random variable. I have my head sorted out now.
Heya @Ilan
13:04
@TedShifrin Finally home after 21 days ;
Oh, congratulations (I guess?).
First thing I'm going to do? Hell yea, Linear algebra. peace :)
Silly boy.
(Lifeless)
Oh yeah. Happens to me way too often. $X=x$ and $Y=y$ would make sense though - but not what we tried to talk about even..
@Ilan friend of mine had constant 28's +shortened weekends
Sure, then we're doing a joint distribution, @Studentmath; I get that. :P
Sadly I don't fully get it yet :P But hopefully I will by the 14th
@Hippa: D'abord il faut des mots, pas seulement des symboles!
@TedShifrin No idea what to put in the title :c
13:07
A probability distribution on the $xy$-plane, @Studentmath :)
Ah yes.
@studentmath
@TedShifrin Any suggestion for the title ?
Ah darn. I keep get an impossible probability.. Yes, @Mike?
13:08
@Studentmath what would resources would you recommend for solving problems like those on projecteuler.net ?
Bonjour @Ted
@G.T.R France :D
I highly doubt I am the right erson to ask @Mike
I can't get basic probability right as it seems, certainly not recommend resources for challenging questions :P
@MikeCon94 Just keep trying them! And read the solution pdfs they upload when you finish one. It's handy to know some basic number theory like how modular arithmetic works but I think most problems you shouldn't need to know anything beforehand just keep experimenting and looking for patterns
@robjohn, Please let me know how $$\sum_{r=0}^{m+n} \left( \sum_{k=0}^{r} \binom{n}{k} \binom{m}{r-k} \right) \ x^{r} = \sum_{r=0}^{m+n} \sum_{k=0}^{m+n} \binom{n}{k} \binom{m}{r} \ x^{r+k}$$? I followed your answer, but can't go further than $$\sum_{r=0}^{m+n} \sum_{k=0}^{m+n} \binom{n}{k} \binom{m}{r} \ x^{r+k}=\sum_{r=0}^{n} \sum_{k=0}^{m} \binom{n}{k} \binom{m}{r} \ x^{r+k}.$$
13:14
@Hippa: J'ai répondu. C'est pas toujours valide.
@TedShifrin it should be true though :/ was my translation correct ? prntscr.com/3s2yb7
@Ted can you take a cursory glance at math.stackexchange.com/questions/831453/… ?
Thanks @AlexJBest I really struggle to spot the patterns and in the pdfs they often mention things I have heard of before but I guess like everything practice, practice, practice!
Now I have it right.
Maybe looking up modular arithmetic will help
13:17
@Mike that usually works. Also, read up on what the mention, wikipedia, look for questions about that subject in SE
Just substitute $r\mapsto r+k$:$$\sum_r\sum_k\binom{n}{k}\binom{m}{r-k}x^r =\sum_r\sum_k\binom{n}{k}\binom{m}{r}x^{r+k}$$
So on. Not that I am a reliable source, but I am self-learning this.. which again might explain a lot, but still.
@robjohn This is also nice to try $$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{H_{2n}}{n^2}=\frac{11}{4} \zeta(3)$$
Cheers fellas @Studentmath @AlexJBest
@MikeCon94 Yeah, half the idea is you learn tricks just by doing them that you can apply to later problems. I just generally make a really stupid way of solving a problem that is really slow, make it output loads of information as it goes along and try and search for a pattern which can then be used to speed the bad program up.
13:19
@Chris'ssis That can be gotten from $A(1,2)$ and $\displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{H_n}{n^2}$ which I have a formula proven in an answer.
Not a bad idea in the past I have just wrote brute force programs and left them running until output but want to learn how the maths to make my future attempts better :)
@Hippa: Résolu. Lis-le.
@robjohn Sure.
$$2\left(2\zeta(3)-\frac58\zeta(3)\right)=\frac{11}4\zeta(3)$$
@robjohn To better see that, one needs to write that as follows $$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{H_{2n}}{(2n)^2}=\frac{11}{16} \zeta(3)$$ The rest gets reduced to what you said.
13:28
@TedShifrin $\|X\|^21 + \lambda^2 = 1$ les parenthèses sont normales ? le 1 me semble bizarre ici
C'était un erreur :(
@TedShifrin What exactly are a matrix's eigenvalues ?
You need to learn eigenvalues and eigenvectors :) Look it up quickly :P
valeurs charactéristiques peut-être en français?
J'ai oublié :(
@TedShifrin valeurs propres, mais je ne les ait pas encore étudiées
Hmm ... je crois qu'il faut connaître le théorème spectral :(
13:33
spectral*
Je m'en doutais ... merci :)
I was considering reading Lang's books, but they all seem to overlap each other greatly, and one has to get several books to treat a subject.
For example, one has to read Introduction to Linear Algebra, Linear Algebra, Undergraduate Algebra, and Algebra, which seems not very efficient.
@JasperLoy you joined the dark side ?
@G.T.R Yup.
If Lang had made his books Algebra 1, Algebra 2, etc without overlapping content, it would be better.
@Jasper, I find certain of his books far better than others. His complex analysis and real analysis books are quite good. Algebra, I don't like so much.
I would recommend you only go back to the elementary stuff when you find a lacuna in your knowledge.
13:44
@TedShifrin I think his Algebra is the most famous of all his books.
Yes, and it's his worst :P
He knew algebra too well.
What's the name of that game, when you get your marble close to another, the colours of the enemy switch?
@G.T.R black squares :D
@robjohn, when I do $r\mapsto r+k$, I get $$\sum_{r=0}^{m+n} \left( \sum_{k=0}^{r} \binom{n}{k} \binom{m}{r-k} \right) \ x^{r}=\sum_{r+k=0}^{m+n} \left( \sum_{k=0}^{r+k} \binom{n}{k} \binom{m}{r} \right) \ x^{r+k},$$ so still not getting $$\sum_{r=0}^{m+n} \sum_{k=0}^{m+n} \binom{n}{k} \binom{m}{r} \ x^{r+k}.$$
@TedShifrin Did I tell you the nine books I hope to study next year?
13:46
I think some subset of them, yes, @Jasper.
@robjohn, please respond!
@Sush You should not map $r\to r+k$ in the outer sum!
It is a dummy variable there.
Would someone mind explaining this to me:
All primes greater than 3 can be written in the form 6k+/-1.
@MikeCon94 Suppose $p$ is a prime $>3$. Then it can be $=0,1,2,3,4,5$ modulo $6$.
Hmmm I think I've just worked it out actually!
13:57
It cannot be $=0$, since $6$ doesn't divide it. It cannot be $2$ because...
And so on.
@PedroTamaroff HMM! @PedroTamaroff, Will you please show the complete explanation here? I have encountered such problem first time, so am very confused.
@Sush Do you understand what it means to change a variable in a sum?
I don't know if I understand correctly.@PedroTamaroff
Consider $$ \sum\limits_{k = 0}^r \binom nk \binom{m}{r-k}$$
ok
14:01
Then $k$ goes from $k=0$ to $k=r$. When this happens, $r-k$ goes from $r$ to $0$.
Yes
Oh, wait, you're meddling with a double sum.
This is similar to change of order in integration.
OH! I don't know that at all!
@PedroTamaroff I think you are talking about first sum becomes second and second becomes first
heya mr @Pedro
@Sush Let's see how can I explain this...
@TedShifrin Hello.
14:05
@TedShifrin, How did you write @Pedro? When I use @ I can write @PedroTamaroff!
I just type "Pedro," rather than going to all the trouble of mousing and clicking.
Besides, he knows his last name :P
Ok! You could use @p and then tab, if Pedro is first one, or right-left arrows.
@TedShifrin
@TedShifrin Type @P, tab.
@TedShifrin hehe!
Good point, @Sush & @DanielF. :P
Doesn't work on the iPad, of course.
I have enough problems knowing a little math, let alone getting all this chat technology right.
14:09
@DanielFischer, How did you write @P in your fonts?
@Sush Enclose it in backticks (grave accents).
OK!
gives up Being a LaTeX more-or-less expert is good enough for me :D
@PedroTamaroff, Please help!
GODDAMN.
14:12
There's a typo, @Pedro.
FUUU There still is.
Now there isn't.
@PedroTamaroff, If you think I can understand it, will u please let me know how?
raises eyebrows
Yes, there still is.
@Sush: Have you ever done double integrals?
If not, draw dots on graph paper to see what region you're summing over.
@TedShifrin, yes, but very elementary!
14:14
You're summing over the dots in a triangle. You either do them vertically first or you do them horizontally first.
Ok!
Draw a triangle in the $xy$-plane with vertices at $(0,0)$, $(n,0)$, and $(n,n)$.
You want to account for all the integer dots $(k,\ell)$.
yes
We have either $$\sum_{k=0}^n \sum _{\ell=0}^k$$ or
$$\sum_{\ell=0}^n \sum_{k=\ell}^n$$
Draw it :)
Yes, drew it, and trying your method:)
14:16
Has @Pedro relaxed now?
I'm here.
I think $k$ is in x-axis and $l$ in y-axis @TedShifrin
Done with commutative algebra, @Pedro?
Yes, @Sush, correct.
YE!
@TedShifrin I have to hand in some more problem sheets, then prepare a final.
14:18
Well, that class clearly pushed you some. I hope you enjoyed learning the stuff.
Ohhh, momentum-generating functions, finally
Oh, moments @Studentmath
Is it momentum in Hebrew? :P
For a symmetric real matrix $A$, denote by $\rho(A)$ the spectral radius of $A$, and by $\sigma(A)$ the largest absolute row sum of $A$; that is, $\sigma(A)=\max_i \sum_j |a_{ij}|$, where $a_{ij}$ are the elements of $A$. We thus have $\rho(A)\le\sigma(A)$. I don't get the final statement (it is that trivial ?)
It's related to Gershgorin's Theorem, @GTR. I'll have to ponder.
Yes it is :P
Actually, it is momentumim (im for plurar).
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14:23
@G.T.R real symmetric real matrices are diagonalizable ... so think what are the diagonal elements of the diagonal matrix ?
@G.T.R Let $\lambda$ be an eigenvalue. Consider the $\lVert\cdot\rVert_\infty$ norm on $\mathbb{C}^n$ ($\mathbb{R}^n$).
$\Bbb R^n$, @Daniel. Real symmetric.
I'm trying to write it out and I don't quite have it.
Changing basis doesn't leave $\sigma$ invariant. @r9m
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@TedShifrin ah ... okay
@GTR: Let $x$ be an eigenvector and choose $i$ with $|x_i|$ maximum.
As @DanielF suggests, write down the equation $Ax=\lambda x$ and look at the $i$th component and use triangle inequality.
@Ted I wonder why I started to enjoy probability so much - I think when you focus on a subject a lot, you start to like it.
14:32
I think probability is particularly alluring, @Studentmath. Because we love to puzzle over how we can see things different ways, and some of them aren't right :P
@Sush I was using $r$ and $k$ both going from $-\infty$ to $\infty$. Of course, because of the binomial coefficients, these sums are finite. If you insist on using limits that are codependent, then you must put $r$ on the inside before subsituting...
@Sush $$\begin{align}\sum_{r=0}^{m+n}\sum_{k=0}^r\binom{n}{k}\binom{m}{r-k}x^r &=\sum_{k=0}^{m+n}\sum_{r=k}^{m+n}\binom{n}{k}\binom{m}{r-k}x^r\\ &=\sum_{k=0}^{m+n}\sum_{r=0}^{m+n-k}\binom{n}{k}\binom{m}{r}x^{r+k}\\ &=\sum_{k=0}^n\sum_{r=0}^m\binom{n}{k}\binom{m}{r}x^{r+k}\end{align}$$
You can't substitute $r\mapsto r+k$ with $r$ on the outside sum since $k$ is not known there
@Ted I think it is it, yeah. You can solve things in many different ways in calculus, linear algebra, so on. But here it's completely different approaches, and sometimes they seem completely reasonable, yet they are just wrong.
@Sush People cannot always be at your beck and call on chat. It is not really nice to demand that they respond. I was away from my computer at the time, anyway.
polite applause
@Ted @Daniel it works,thanks
14:37
Yippee !
BTW, if you've never seen Gershgorin's Theorem, look it up. It's cool.
@robjohn The OP of math.stackexchange.com/questions/831632/… makes a lot of rather pointless edits, presumably to bump. At which point shall it be flagged?
@Ted @DanielFischer unrelated question, but do you know reduced rings of matrices (base ring is your choice) ?
@DanielFischer Posts used to be made CW at the 11th edit. Anywhere around there. (original and 10 edits)
@robjohn Okay. He has a little breathing space left then.
@DanielFischer You can simply tell them that meaningless edits will be flagged and then mods will be involved.
14:45
@G.T.R What was a reduced ring again? Trivial nilradical?
@DanielFischer a nilpotent element has to be $0$
@DanielFischer beware, nilradical is for commutative rings
@G.T.R Yeah, the set of nilpotent elements usually isn't an ideal otherwise.
@G.T.R There's the usual $$\begin{pmatrix} x & -y \\ y & x\end{pmatrix}$$ and derived stuff. But I guess that's not too interesting.
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15:01
@TedShifrin @DanielFischer to prove $\rho (A) \le \sigma (A)$ could we use $\lim\limits_{n \to \infty} \lVert A^{n} \rVert^{1/n} = \rho (A)$ ?
4 stars! C'mon.
Hell.
@r9m We could. But it's easier to use $\rho(A) = \max \{ \lvert \lambda\rvert : \lambda \in \operatorname{spec} A\}$.
I don't know why I try to correct people's use of asymptotic notation. It's pretty much just anything goes, it seems.
@AntonioVargas Poor Antonio.
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@DanielFischer yes ofcourse ... I was just wondering how to derive the result from that expression of $\rho (A)$ :)
15:04
@AntonioVargas Examples?
I've posted a question. It was a long time since I did this.
@BalarkaSen I was just commenting on this answer.
Once again too many options to realise how to do it..
Yeah, I am much partial to big-Os when it comes to not-so-tight bounds.
@AntonioVargas Ah, Sami.
15:06
@DanielFischer Is that him?
@AntonioVargas Yup. Took me a while to figure it out after the name change.
@Antonio I mostly use Vinogradov notations.
@DanielFischer Now it makes sense ;)
$\ll$ and $\gg$
@AntonioVargas Why?
15:10
@DanielFischer He's just part of a group I tend to avoid, for one reason or another. Nothing serious.
@AntonioVargas I certainly do not like that group either.
@PedroTamaroff I thought you said you like all groups.
@BalarkaSen Not groups of people.
@r9m try this >Let $\delta$ and $M$ be positive reals. Let $S_n(\mathbb R)^{++}$ denote the set of real positive definite matrices.

> Prove the set $\{ A\in S_n(\mathbb R)^{++} | \det A \geq \delta \;\;\text{and}\; \; \operatorname{spec}(A)\subset [0,M]\}$ is compact.
In fact I don't like groups of order too large.
15:11
@BalarkaSen I like number theory and I like applied math, and both groups seem to use that notation differently (one for big O and one for little o). So I can never decide if I want to use it or not :)
@PedroTamaroff So the monster group is right out?
@AntonioVargas haha, confusing
@PedroTamaroff How about infinite groups?
@AntonioVargas I meant groups of people.
@PedroTamaroff just a joke
Nobody likes $\text{Gal}(\Bbb {\bar Q}/\Bbb Q)$, @AntonioVargas
Alright, I should go. Sorry I just came in here to complain :)
G'day all
15:15
Byes.
@Pedro: Your question is out of my league.
@G.T.R I just posted a question with no upvotes and i got a +3 ... what's +3 for ?
@Hippa: Has anyone besides me answered your linear algebra question?
@Hippalectryon upvoted once, downvoted once +5-2=3
Higher arithmetic
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15:20
@G.T.R I'm not sure ... but my guess is it is implied from $\det$ and $\operatorname{spec}$ are continuous maps ?
@TedShifrin Nope
And you still don't like my solution :(
@r9m you chose the sequence way, the open cover way, or the closed-bounded way ?
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@G.T.R closed bounded ..
@TedShifrin i need to learn about the spectral theorem and stuff first
@TedShifrin Tomorrow probably
15:23
@r9m ok good, you're on the right track with continuity
How did your instructor expect you to do this, @Hippa? You need to know that $A^2 X = \mu X \implies AX = \lambda X$ for some $\lambda$. I don't see an immediate way without some knowledge, @Hippa.
@TedShifrin My teacher didn't give me that, my brother did
LOL, oh. Silly brother.
How much does he know?
@TedShifrin No it's fine i learn this way :)
@TedShifrin He's like one year ahead of me
Pretty smart family.
15:25
Btw what's the difference between \frac and \dfrac ?
\dfrac is bigger ... displaystyle
it's what you would get automatically in a displayed equation: Compare $\frac12$ and $\dfrac12$.
heya @MichaelAlbanese
um, @Hippa and @Gabriel: Why are you both black boxes now?
@TedShifrin because black box power :3
@TedShifrin It's to form a nice line of black boxes on the user's list :D
Quelles bêtises :P
15:28
@TedShifrin math.stackexchange.com/questions/831860/… @PedroTamaroff 's comment, does that mean that the sequence $\dfrac{1}{u_n}$ converges towards $0$ ? It seems way too easy ...
Well, you need to know something about the harmonic series, @Hippa. What do you know?
@TedShifrin That it diverges -> $+\infty$
That might be enough. But you also know it grows like $\log$ ...
What about it ?
So roughly $u_n > e^n$. But we probably don't need that.
15:32
$n\leqslant\sum_{k=1}^n\frac1k\leqslant1+\int_1^{u_n}\frac{\mathrm dt}t=1+\log u_n\implies\frac1{u_n}\leqslant\frac{\mathrm e}{\mathrm e^n}$ ?
That answer ^ :D
So you're confusing me. What's your question?
Hrm.. a quick summation question:

$\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}(pe^t+1-p)^n*e^{-100}*\frac{100^n}{n!}$

With few algebraic tricks, can easily show it is $exp({-100+100(pe^t+1-p)})$
@TedShifrin Wait i need to look at that answer he just posted first
Did just posted that ...
Is there a nicer way to do that?
15:34
ugh @Studentmath
I mean, to express it...
Since the way I expressed it is ugly.
@Ted Indeed.
Nevermind, I am stupid. Can see it now :P
I don't see that it's easily that at all ...
Oh, Taylor series expansion for $e^x$.
Oh, erm
Yeah
You take the $e^{-100}$ out, enter the $100^n$ in.. I did it right I hope.
15:36
Yeah, you factor out $e^{-100}$ and then it's $\sum (\text{blah})^n/n!$.
Anyhow, can even get it to $exp(100p(e^t-1))$ so it's rather pretty.
Latex is giving me a hard time today.
Also, that makes it a poisson distribution with paramater 100p. That's awesome.
(It's the moments generating function of it)
You're ahead of me, @Studentmath :D
Two pages ahead of class :P
One more question and I am back to multivar. calculus.. This is going to be one horrid month ahead
If you're ahead of me in multivariable calculus, then it really is time for me to retire :P
Once again - in my dreams..
15:42
Well, in fairness, I've been teaching that material since 1972.
Anyone know much about Ramsey numbers?
Woha. How much did your teaching style change?
Also, any reason specifically this and not single-variable calculus, if I may ask?
@ted do you happen to have taught both students and their children?
close, @GTR, but the daughter decided to go to college somewhere else.
@ted Damn, that would have been awesome
15:45
@TedShifrin $\sum_{k=1}^{u_n}\frac1k\leqslant1+\int_1^{u_n}\frac{\mathrm dt}t$ why is that ?
I've always found multivariable a lot more interesting, and it's something that most mathematicians don't know quite as well. It's more geometric and that doesn't appeal to all mathematicians.
Think of the integral test @Hippa.
@TedShifrin what is that ?
Understanding convergence/divergence of the series $\sum f(n)$ for a decreasing function $f$ ?
See the picture.
@TedShifrin It seems to me that the function is under the sum, not above
You can make it be either, @Hippa. Either inscribed or circumscribed rectangles.
15:48
@TedShifrin Oh ty
16:15
Hrm, Given $X_1,...,X_n$ RV, $\bar{X}$ is their average. But what does $\bar{X}_n$ stands for?
16:29
@cc would be odd as they mark $\bar{X}$ as their average. I think it's either a misprint
or something I just fail to understand..
As it can't be the average of $X_n$ itself (obviously) and they would not introduce all the X's for no reason..
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I think it is the average, $\overline{X}_n=E[X_n]$
@Studentmath Did you solve the other $P(X\ge 5 | X even)$ question?
That makes the exercise odd..
Yes
I simply did the general thing for general i, got a nice expression and added up i=2,4,6
The exercise now is:

Let there be n independent normal distributions, $X_1,..., X_n$, each with expectency 0 and variance $\sigma^2$. We define $Y=exp(\bar{X}_n)$. Find E[Y].
Which makes me think it's simply the average all of the n' RV together, and then I can reach that with the moments generating function @cc
But I am unsure, so I will ask for clarification..
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hmm, yes possibly $\bar{X}_n$ is the average of X's but that's confusing
Yeah, they usually use just $\bar{X}$ for that here. Best be sure, but will practice it this way for now.
That makes it really simple though, simply plugging in M(1). Funny for a test-question, better say nothing and hope for such in my tests..
9 points.

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