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04:00
I didn't look at it though.
The proof is boring
and easy
I am a man of honour.
I mean that the result is cool
Quick question. How essential is, generally, 'deeper' calculus knowledge for Group Topology, B.Sc levelish?
04:00
@Studentmath "Group Topology"?
what do you mean by 'group topology'?
Hm, let me see the description generally..
@Pedro: I know of just one example of a boolean ring
@FernandoMartin ?
$P(X)$ with intersection and symmetric difference
as operations
04:03
@FernandoMartin Isn't any product with copies of $\Bbb F_2$ an example?
It's a course that goes about Metric Spaces, and set-theoritic topology
I mean, $P(X)$ is $\Bbb F_2^X$ if you may.
Oh Jeez, it's a two-semesters course..
Are all of them $F_2^X$ for some $X$?
04:04
@Studentmath You mean "General Topology"?
Group topology=Set-Theoritic Topology, again we don't have two different words for that, sorry about that.
I guess that would be a good translation
@FernandoMartin Pawnders.
@Studentmath we call tht "point-set topology"
Thanks @mike !
I never understood why that's called 'point-set'
'general topology' is a better name IMO
04:07
How much does it, usually, use calculus? (in the B.Sc course of that)
(generally.. know it's hard to say as it differs from course to course and so on)
My topology course used 0 calculus, but you're supposed to be "mathematically mature"
Yeah, I love that term.
hi, can anyone help me with this problem pls? I asked it almost a day ago, but nobody has posted a solution yet.
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Q: One-one analytic functions on unit disc

ChandanIs the following statement true? Suppose, $ f:D\to \mathbb C $ is an analytic function where $ D $ is the unit disc of radius $ 1 $ around $0 $. Suppose, $ f $ is analytic on the boundary of $ D $ as well. Then prove that, if $ f $ is one-one on the boundary of $ D $, then $ f $ is one-one on $ ...

It seems unlikely that it's trivial. You should edit your solution into your post.
04:13
@Chandan Did you try Stasur's theorem?
I don't know the theorem
wth is stasur's theorem
Just trollin'.
don't
jerk
chill yer nipples brah
04:22
>implying I don't have ice cubes on my nipples right now
>2014
>still not having icy nipples
>greentext sucks camel balls
still doing it wrong
>greentext
>sucking camel balls
>not giving a f***.
Is that one right?
nope
the right way would be
>me
>giving a fuck
04:27
And where's the "not"?
it's implied
then you should have written
>greentext
>not sucking camel balls
it's read as if they were mutually incompatible
hence
>greentext
>sucking camel balls
04:28
hi, I have posted the solution, can u check pls?
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Q: One-one analytic functions on unit disc

ChandanIs the following statement true? Suppose, $ f:D\to \mathbb C $ is an analytic function where $ D $ is the unit disc of radius $ 1 $ around $0 $. Suppose, $ f $ is analytic on the boundary of $ D $ as well. Then prove that, if $ f $ is one-one on the boundary of $ D $, then $ f $ is one-one on $ ...

The guys at the IRC channel programmed a script that calculates the percentage of greentext vs non-greentext comments each user sends
Apparently 8.5% of what I say is greentext
I'm linguistically disabled
What are some good books to learn differential equations and vectors calculus? I currently have the one by Marsden for vector calculus and Zill for differencial equations. Are those good?
05:09
My class is using Marsden now, and I personally don't like it all that much
What don't you like about it?
05:27
I feel like it expects too much knowledge beforehand
Not enough examples
Explanations are generally not clear to me
 
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07:27
How to find infinite sum $$1+\dfrac13+\dfrac{1*3}{3*6}+\dfrac{1*3*5}{3*6*9}+\dfrac{1*3*5*7}{3*6*9*12}+\do‌​ts$$
@skullpatrol, HI!
Hi @sush how are you?
I am FINE!
How are you?
Fine, thanks :-)
:-) I like this smiley too much. @skullpatrol.
Are you student?
Ok.
07:37
@skullpatrol, my English is very weak. I wanna take GRE test. How should I start preparing?
Try using old tests
ok.
08:07
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@JasperLoy, hi!
@Sush Hello. I see much removed stuff
Yes, I tried to correct latex, but it didn't work!
@JasperLoy, will you please help me here
?
r9m
r9m
08:35
the (n+1)-th term is $\dfrac{(2n-1)(2n-3)\dots 3.1}{n!.3^n}= \dfrac{(n-\frac{1}{2})(n-\frac{1}{2}-1)\dots (n-\frac{1}{2}-(n-2)).(n- \frac12 - (n-1))}{n!}\bigg(\frac{2}{3}\bigg)^n$ ..
so this is binomial expansion of $(1 - \frac23)^{-\frac{1}{2}}$
@Sush the answer is $\sqrt3$ ?
08:53
@r9m Do you know programming?
r9m
r9m
@Sawarnik ya .. a bit
@r9m Which lang?
r9m
r9m
@Sawarnik Python, Haskell, Java :P (but I am a dumbo when it comes to programming)
@r9m That is a lot of stuff! But I heard that math guys find programming easy?
r9m
r9m
not me :P
08:57
@Sush Hi.
@Sawarnik, HI! I was thinking about your bet! Who won? INDIA LOST!☻
@Sush Of course me!
OK, so you knew that we'll lose! You should be on some sports panel live on TV.@Sawarnik
@r9m, Thank you so much.
r9m
r9m
@Sush Welcome :)
@Sush I knew who was gonna win! Of course, but the guys at the panel never will listen to me :/
I word using brain, unlike PK who works using emotions :P
09:02
@Sawarnik, i c.
@Sawarnik, Ya! Are you interested in him?
@Sush Actually he is the most secretive person I have ever seen :)
@Sawarnik, ok.
@Sush Ok. Why is your name Sush? It sounds quite nice btw :-)
I have not met with a CIA person yet- or perhaps have met!@Sawarnik
my name is such!@Sawarnik
@Sawarnik, removed that? Are u afraid?
@Sush Yes!
You didn't tell your institute?
09:07
Ok. so I will have to read every statement ASAP
MvG
MvG
@robjohn, wrt. math.stackexchange.com/q/371262, I do recall a similar but not equal question which was in my filter recently but which I can't find just now. It had a nice illustration, and lots of “what I did”, but it was asking about surface area not volume iirc. It had a comment to it asking for texification, and another pointing to some PDF, some name containing the term “window”. Do you think you can identify a recently deleted post matching these criteria?
As that may not get removed!@Sawarnik
It won't.
I study in Gujarat, a not known Univ.@Sawarnik
haha!
MvG
MvG
I feel I'm missing a number of posts today. I recently looked for an answer I had posted some time ago, and I can't seem to find it anymore. I really whish there were any kind of indication that an answer of mine has been deleted, so I know I can stop looking. As it stands, this is driving me crazy.
09:23
@Sush Sorry, I usually don't answer questions in chat.
Why isn't @BalarkaSen being seen around these days?
@r9m Such a nice answer quora.com/India/…
@JasperLoy, its ok.
@Sush He only answers ground fruits on the main.
@Sawarnik, yes,.
r9m
r9m
@Sawarnik Thanks for the link
09:33
@Sawarnik, will you please give me an elementary source of modular arithmetic? I get stuck in every number theory problem!
@Sush I don't like number theory much myself, ask someone else! But you could find good things if you search around the internet.
@Sawarnik, ok.
@r9m,will you please give me an elementary source of modular arithmetic? I get stuck in every number theory problem!
r9m
r9m
@Sush you can start with a book called Challenges and thrills in pre-college mathematics (thats where I started learning Number Theory and geometry from) .. apart from that Elementary Number Theory by Burton is a good book
Greetings
@robjohn I just found an absolutely amazing 3rd way to that question. A very simple way!
09:51
@r9m, thank you so much.
@Chris'ssis really? The tan sum?
10:14
@MvG someone with 10K reputation can see this question, but I believe that you can see this image and see if it looks familiar.
10:25
@robjohn Yeah. I'm writing the proof now.
MvG
MvG
@robjohn @robjohn: That's the one. I guess the question was deleted by the user, but I'd like to know whether it was in response to an answer or not. If there was an answer, this feels like cheating so undeleting the question might be warranted. Even if not, I'm kind of sad that this version got removed, instead of declared a duplicate of e.g. this one.
Good to know that I don't have to include the name if I reply to a specific message…
@MvG there was no answer. Perhaps the user was considering moving the question to MO?
MvG
MvG
I'd believe it more likely that the one comment with the link somehow told him enough so that the question was no longer relevant. I'll have to work on reaching 10k…
10:44
@MvG yes, the other question asks a more general question, and the answers there would provide the answer he wanted.
@robjohn take the proof from here (it was done elementarily)
@Chris'ssis that is just integrating the terms of the previous solution, is it not?
@robjohn do you refer to this one? i.sstatic.net/ri4D3.jpg
@robjohn It seems that simple manipulations immediately give the desired result.
$\frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d}x}\log\left(\cos\left(\frac{x}{2^n}\right)\right)=-‌​\frac{\tan\left(\frac{x}{2^n}\right)}{2^n}$
@robjohn Yeah. If you look at this problem like that, we immediately see the light of the solution. :D
MvG
MvG
10:54
@robjohn I only noticed that second question while searching for the question I remembered, so there is no indication that the poster of said question was aware of the previous solution before deleting his post. Might be, though. OK, in dubio pro reo I'll not assume any attempt at cheating, since there are plausible honest explanations. Thanks!
@MvG there did not seem to be any cheating going on.
MvG
MvG
I wonder whether this comment refers to the same now deleted question I had in mind.
@robjohn I think this series is pretty enjoyable. It seems it can be tackled in various ways.
I had some fun playing with it. :-)
@MvG it might, but it's hard to tell.
11:23
to prove that being H,K subgroups of G, H U K can't be a subgroup if H intersection K is neither H or K, ppl generally take into account an element x in H but not in K, and an element y in K but not in H. Then they argue that their product xy can't be in H and can't be in K, which i understand.
But why does the product need to be in H or in K ? Take (Z,+) and the subgroups H={...,-4,-2,0,2,4,...} and K = {...,-6,-3,0,3,6,.. } . We can take x = 2 in H, and y=3 in K. x+y is neither in H nor in K
"But why does the product need to be in H or in K ?" Because subgroups must be closed under the binary operation, and in particular, for $H\cup K$ to be a subgroup we must have $xy\in H\cup K$.
oh i see :)
that was dumbquestion, thanks
11:46
wooooooo
11:52
0:-)
11:56
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Does anyone know why his highness Sir Balarka Sen isn't being seen around these days?
12:59
Hi
@skullpatrol how are you?
@somaye Fine thanks, how are you?
thanks good
@somaye nice to hear from you again pal
:) nice to see you on line
13:02
i cant see other friends
they come and go
miss you and them
thanks, me too
what are you doing?
not much, just getting ready to sleep. How about you?
13:07
i am at work
Have nice dream :)
thanks
:-)
13:23
yo what is up man
I'm way behind on linear algebra problems, meant to be doing problem 102 but I'm up to 70 now :(
take a deep breath and dive in
don't come up for air until you reach your goal
Must reach question 102 before Friday. I will go do it!
@skullpatrol Why do you never talk math on chat?
13:31
@user2357 don't forget to have fun doing it :D
@Sawarnik because I know nothing
@skullpatrol haha! of course you know enough to do maths
says who?
13:55
@skullpatrol me.
14:16
@Hawk Goodie good question math.stackexchange.com/questions/651119/… , and a goodier answer!
15:05
Hey everyone, I have just posted a question that has been irritating me for a while !
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Q: Different types of Convergence for a Series of Functions

eXtremiityI am currently investigating the convergence of the following function, $f(x)=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k}+sin(k)}{k^{2}}$ for different "senses". I have shown that $f(x)$ converges uniformly and pointwisely for its domain. All I have left to do is investigate whether it converges in the $L^...

If you have an idea, please share your thoughts so I can give you rep. Also, I have to go to sleep - I have to wake up early tomorrow so I have no more time left to do study :( . Goodnight !
@eXtremiity
$f_n \rightarrow f$ in $L^p$ means that $\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \|f_n - f\|_p = 0$
which means $$\left(\int_{-1}^1 |f_n(x)-f(x)|^pdx\right)^{1/p}$$
@eXtremiity you might want to read about what are called "$L^p$ spaces", the vector spaces of $p$-integrable functions. these can be quite different for different $p$!
(chapter t3 in Rudin 2) oh he's gone.
actually i take that back anyway.
15:25
le poof
15:38
Yay! Getting a week long holidays. @r9m Finally some useful consequence of the elections.
r9m
r9m
@Sawarnik (y)
15:50
@Sawarnik thanks, i am honoured to satisfy you by the standard of the question ,sire!
r9m
r9m
@Hawk Woow .. user Blue answered your Q .. did you check his bloog ?
@r9m yes i did! he has answered other questions too...they are quite good
@Hawk I am extremely privileged to be able to satisfy you, your highness. Thanks for bestowing this great honour on me!
r9m
r9m
ya .. I like the proofs without words section in his blog :)
@r9m The questions he answer and his elegant geometric methods are much more delightful than his bloog, which is is not to say, that its not awesome as well!
15:53
@Sawarnik which priviledge? which honour? grow up!! :D
@Sawarnik d'you have any good problems in your mind?
r9m
r9m
@Sawarnik finally sounds right :P
@Hawk Not at this moment, sire.
r9m
r9m
@Hawk I still didn't read the proof .. but did you try the Napoleon tiling trick ? ;)
@r9m My language skills are pooor.
@Sawarnik Your majesty, please accept my humble proposal to spare some time to search some good questions.
r9m
r9m
15:58
@Sawarnik Still better than mine
@r9m Napoleon tiling trick? What is that?
@Sawarnik and a lot better than mine...
You didn't tell why is your name Hawk?
@Sawarnik I told you I don't know...just felt like giving it...but later found out that name matches my inner animal(fun test over internet)
@r9m that is interesting...reflections...i like them...simplifies many problems...
And why don't you consider changing your profile pic?
16:01
@Sawarnik Okay, what should I change that to?
r9m
r9m
@Hawk true .. true
@Hawk The mean square?
@r9m and even makes solutions elegant too...
@Sawarnik 'the mean square'? why? I am not even close to the level of robjohn, but do you mean i am 'mean'?
@r9m possibly, the test centre will be at xaviers
@Hawk No, your majesty. I was saying people will consider you a mod haha!
r9m
r9m
@Hawk ya ..
16:05
@Sawarnik seriously...is that a joke? your sense of humour is getting poorer by the day...
No, your majesty.
r9m
r9m
ummhm .. by minutes
poorer my minutes
@r9m By planck times.
r9m
r9m
hehe .. so you kewn it after all
@r9m seriously...is that a joke? your sense of humour is getting poorer by the minutes...
@r9m poorer my minutes haha!
r9m
r9m
16:07
:P
@r9m Hey, can you prove that the area of a cyclic pentagon is a function of its sides?
@Hawk Umm...you real face? Or your inner animal? Or SK-PK type? Or anything nice!
@Sawarnik AC won't look nice...real face...never!! inner animal or anything nice...what anything nice?
To answer the second question I ever asked on here...
1. Mathematics - covers a mixture of both pure and applied mathematics
2. Pure Mathematics - focuses on theory and proofs
3. Applied Mathematics - focuses on the physical side of mathematics and how we can apply it to the real world

Ta-dah.
@Hawk Why, AC is good enough? And maybe your inner animal and you look the same?
@Sawarnik can you make an 'AC'?
16:17
is his inner animal a turkey?
@meer2kat No its actually a hawk! :P
@meer2kat that is quite an insult!!
@Hawk PK made it for me.
@Sawarnik he is not here at the moment...so that's not possible...so i'm not doing anything now...
Ok, AC.
@Hawk Hey AC, the question I linked tells that you were interested in geometry?
16:22
oh, well that's good. you chose the right name then @Hawk
@meer2kat didn't choose it on purpose...later found out to be so...
@Sawarnik yes...why not...but not so interested as the other topics...
@r9m Can you prove that the area of a cyclic pentagon is a function of its sides?
@Sawarnik that's interesting...will think...will be back...
@Hawk did you try to fly and it worked?
@meer2kat probably not.
16:24
or did he start skateboarding?
@meer2kat are you in college?
yeah why
@meer2kat subject?
mechanical engineering, switching to mathematics and education
@sawarnik , why?
@meer2kat curiosity.
16:29
mkay
i m getting bored.
do some math puzzles
or write vba code
@meer2kat what is vba?
visual basic for applications
i'm running it through Autodesk Inventor to make codes to manipulate the CAD modeling software
wow.
16:34
VBA is built in to your microsoft applications too
16:58
@meer2kat good choice of new majors!
lol why's that @mike
@meer2kat ME becomes M and E
@Sawarnik back...any progress with that problem?
17:15
@jasperloy hahaha so perfect
GAH FREAKING VBA
@meer2kat Why did you go to the Eng room?
the english room?
@Hawk no :(
@meer2kat Yup, you are in that chat room now.
indeed i am
english and math are my two favorite subjects
(yeah i know i'm a weirdo)
17:19
math is good and so is teaching
However, both are bad where I live, lol
i agree :) put them together and i'll be a...happy snowman! sorry, frozen reference...
why @jasperloy
?
@meer2kat Well, I always think the quality of math education here is poor, lol, that's what I mean
oh okay
you should fix that :)
I don't intend to fix that, I intend to move to another place if possible, lol
17:26
brb
17:38
boo!
Another series I just created. Compute
$$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} 2^{2n} \sin^4\left(\frac{\pi}{2^n}\right)$$
I posted this on CrossValidated, but I'm going to drop it here as well in case somebody familiar with the topic is around:
4
Q: Root finding for stochastic function

SzabolcsSuppose we have a function $f(x)$ that we can only observe through some noise. We can not compute $f(x)$ directly, only $f(x) + \eta$ where $\eta$ is some random noise. (In practice: I compute $f(x)$ using some Monte Carlo method.) What methods are available for finding roots of $f$, i.e. comp...

It's really a numerical methods question.
"What is the chance that you flip a coint 1000 times"
"Who me? Zero, I would never indulge in such boring affairs."
anyone know how to close an old chat room?
18:01
@meer2kat I think you can ask a mod to delete it.
know any mods?
You can just ping any mod you know. There are some here now.
Like robjohn here.
I don't know who's a mod. That was my problem.
Hey, @robjohn can you delete a chat room i created on accident? I associated it to the wrong site
@meer2kat I'm not sure... which one?
Let me link it. Just a sec
uh, it's gone....guess someone already did it. just kidding
18:11
@meer2kat Is it the Poetry Room associated with StackOverflow?
yeah that one @robjohn it's supposed to be associated with the english site.
so i remade it
@JasperLoy Crap, I approved that edit.
@Mike Death sentence for you
@PedroTamaroff
18:22
@Mike Yas.
@Donkey
what?
:P
I just felt like pinging you,
@Mike !
@alyssa
@jasperloy
18:24
@meer2kat Have you deleted the room?
@JasperLoy I dunno. I passed it to @robjohn to look at....the new one is up and running though :) though no one is there but me...but that's okay :D
:14822028 I suspect the new room will be useless, you should just delete all of them
@JasperLoy well that's not nice :(
@meer2kat Have you done a course in writing proofs?
@JasperLoy haha nope. why?
18:27
@meer2kat OK. Because some people really can't write proofs until after such a course
@JasperLoy why would i need to write a proof...?
@meer2kat Aren't you majoring in math?
@JasperLoy well yes...but what does that have to do with the topic at hand?
@meer2kat Well, because when you do math, you write proofs, lol
@JasperLoy right...but we were talking about the chat room....i'm confused :P
18:29
@meer2kat Oh I talk about all things at the same time.
@JasperLoy well someone's a bad***
@meer2kat That's someone's favourite line, lol
@JasperLoy i use that line so much...
I suspect every room on the StackExchange network is useless, and we should delete all of them.
@meer2kat Have you thought about which math grad programs to apply to?
18:33
@JasperLoy I'm not going to. I'm going to get my bachelors in math and my masters in education. the MAT program at my school
regarding VBA: gosh flipping darn baby-eating crunchmuffin son of a gun loving poppiehead of a compiler.
@meer2kat So you're gonna be a teacher, like what I was, lol
@meer2kat Just as long as you leave with a good understanding of mathematics for when you teach :)
@JasperLoy yes sirree :)
@Mike I certainly will. it's a fun curriculum
@Mike and then this is the education portion louisville.edu/education/degrees/files/…
18:52
@meer2kat I see your two poetry rooms.
@JasperLoy come in to one of them :) we can write cool things!
i don't want to be a chicken

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