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10:01 PM
For a microsecond half of my mind interpreted that sentence in the sense of being possessed. I didn't know you had supernatural abilities!
 
Well, of course I do.
How else would I survive you all in this chat?
 
To be fair the eyes are definitely an indicator
 
every simple $A$-module naturally has a simple $A/J(A)$-module structure and every simple $A/J(A)$-module naturally has a simple $A$-module structure, where natural means whatever you think it means
 
Whose eyes?
 
Yours! When you roll so many eyes...
 
10:05 PM
So, is it easier to show the simple module is $1$-dimensional using it's $A/J(A)$-module structure? Also, what sort of ring structure does $k^n$ have?
 
Ah, yes; I haven't done that in a while.
 
its the product of n kopies of k
lol not gonna fix that topy
typo*
 
@Thorgott what are you actually specializing/specialized in? You still in your master's?
 
You meant k kopies of k.
 
hi chat
 
10:11 PM
Hi Shmo.
 
how's it going?
how are things down by you? did the pandemic hit hard?
 
Spending the last hour dealing with bureaucratic snafus, but still alive and bitching.
The pandemic is getting worser everywhere.
 
and in good spirits, as always, I see
 
I'm still in my bachelors, so not specialized yet
 
yeah.. people are getting lax about masks and social distancing
 
10:12 PM
Spirits? Too early for my martinis.
 
did y'all hear that the presidential election got stolen?
no, JK. Don't respond to that
 
46 minutes the idiot ranted yesterday ... and people ate it up, I'm sure
 
I don't understand what he's thinking
the precedent is awful
 
He has no comprehension of democracy, Constitution, or anything else. It's just all about his ego and his power.
And pardoning everyone under the sun to protect himself.
Back to math.
 
@TedShifrin I hope the electoral college follows the states' results.
I won't rest easy until Dec 15
 
10:19 PM
The EC needs to be banned. Just a relic that's far too dangerous now.
Yes, I agree.
 
no, no. They will. But the orange man doesn't intend to go out quietly
 
Yeah I think he's just trying to grasp at straws, anything to chill lol. Anyway re math, what's some interesting stuff you guys are learning?
 
I'm done learning. I'm in the process of forgetting most things.
 
harmonic analysis
there's a reason they call it hard analysis
 
@JoeShmo what harmonic analytic things are you working on?
 
10:21 PM
the usual suspects
 
I did Harmonic Analysis in grad school
and my last year of undergrad
 
marcinkiewicz, calderon-zygmnd (3 different versions)
maximal functions
rearrangements
interpolation theorems
 
Wow, you have left Sylvain in the dust for this!
 
@JoeShmo I worked under Eli Stein. He worked with Calderon
 
haha yeah Sylvain wouldn't approve of all of this
but what can I tell you.. it's an analysis school
@robjohn oshit. Stein was your advisor?
also all my intuition in mathematics is geometric, so I needed to diversify
 
10:24 PM
Rob: our paths connect at Zygmund!
 
Yes, it's good for you to learn analysis and algebra, too. ... I can only connect to you through Moser somehow, @robjohn.
 
and I have recently discovered that I've got a tooth for probability
 
If I pick one of your teeth at random what's the probability that it's your tooth for probability?
Hurry hurry
 
That's good. Teaching the course improved me a lot. But I don't remember some of the more technical stuff.
smacks Demonark before rolling an irrational number of eyes
 
ummm. 38?
 
10:28 PM
@TedShifrin I remember reading an early paper by Moser on elliptic PDEs when I was a grad student.
 
Surely Moser connects to Eli.
 
@Thorgott hahaha so you're like most of the people in this chat - graduation is long overdue and your sleeping pattern is horrible?
 
And he connects to Chern via Chern-Moser.
 
Varadhan has a good book but he's very succinct and gets right to the point (assumes maturity with analysis)
 
@TedShifrin That is probably why Stein had me read the paper.
 
10:29 PM
There may well be other connections, but that one seemed most obvious.
 
Yeah
 
Obligatory: differential geometry has a lot of connections!
 
@JoeShmo it's reasonably close to harmonic analysis
 
I did a bit of work on pseudodifferential operators back in the day.
 
I'm going to get sore from smacking Demonark. I miss Erico.
 
10:32 PM
not overdue (at least not yet), but the part about the sleeping pattern holds true
 
I don't think we have "long overdue" people here for the most part, @user2103480. Au contraire.
 
@user2103480 probability?
 
I got some sharp pseudodifferential results that Stein had not seen. It was exhilarating.
 
also, @AminIdelhaj I'm uncomfortable that you would want to knock my teeth out to run your sick little experiments
 
That's cool. That's a topic I really never studied much.
 
10:34 PM
Look that was strictly hypothetical
 
Clearly Joe Shmo has come here to goof off. (I keep wanting to put a c in Shmo.)
 
I pointed out long ago that I misspelled Shmo. I take full responsibility.
 
Hmm...How do I show that any simple module over $k^n$ is $1$-dimensional?
 
@JoeShmo yes
 
yeah, it is
 
10:38 PM
@user193319 Restrict it to a k-module
 
@JoeShmo what type do you have "a tooth for"? :)
 
so somehow I like probability more than harmonic, if that's what youre asking
 
Harmonic analysis can blend into geometry and vector bundles, though.
 
what type of probability I meant
@TedShifrin to be fair, it can blend into plenty of areas
 
@EarthCracks So, $k$ acts via $a \cdot n = (a,a,...,a) \cdot n$ for $a \in k$ and $n \in N$, where $N$ a simple module over $k^n$?
 
10:40 PM
Yes, of course, but JoeShmo had already commented on his geometric bent.
 
as far as what probability? Too early to call. I just enjoy reading it so far. But I'll get back to you on this over winter break
yes, like harmonic analysis is just purely quantitative. It lacks analogies, and riddled with "tricks". I can't say that it's my cup of tea. Although I'm not bad in it.
 
I meant that there are many different areas, like statistical learning theory, random geometry and random graphs, markov processes, SDE, point processes
percolation
@JoeShmo oh, but probability is not necessarily better
It's a whole bunch of tricks and inequalities as well
and all-out analytical warfare
 
all geometry is random
 
hah, yes, but again, somehow I enjoy probability more than harmonic
 
@JoeShmo that is fair! it has a different kind of structure to it than more purely analytical things
I still find it amazing that brownian motion has first been formalized by a financial mathematician and 5 years later by einstein
 
10:48 PM
I picked up Alon and Spencer's book on the probabilistic method in combinatorics. Did you read it by chance? Looks like a lot of fun
 
Oh, no, anything discrete (apart from maybe point processes, which are arguably discrete) is my nemesis
 
Why can't I just start with $N$ as a simple $T_n(k)$-module, and let $k$ act on $N$ via constant diagonal matrices. Won't this turn $N$ into a $k$-vector space, and $\{aI \cdot n \mid a \in k, n \in N \}$ is a nonzero submodule, so by simplicity $N = \{aI \cdot n \mid a \in k, n \in N\}$, so $N$ is $1$-dimensional...Is there something wrong with this?
 
what's your poison?
 
Yo probabilistic stuff in combinatorics is cool
 
That is, $k$ acts on $N$ via $a \cdot n = aI \cdot n$? This is a scalar multiplication, right, making $N$ a $k$-vector space?
 
10:50 PM
It is, but I lack intuition for discrete things, apart from maybe higher set theory - where the combinatorics were too much at some point as well
courses by discrete mathematicians/graph theorists in budapest taught me that the hard way
 
Oh, wait. I don't think $\{aI \cdot n \mid a \in k \}$ is a sub-$T_n(k)$-module...
Note, I meant to fix $n$ as a nonzero element of $N$.
 
the depressing part of this channel is it reminds me how little math i actually know...
 
@TedShifrin I'm sure I'd enjoy the geometric approach to harmonic almost by definition, if one existed.
 
Helgason has a book that has a lot of this stuff in it, doing integral geometric analysis.
You can join Demonark in perusing Helgason(s).
 
11:15 PM
@user193319 if we have a simple module $M$ over a product ring $A\times B$, then one can show that either $AM = 0$ or $BM=0$ and in the first case $M$ is a simple $B$-module and in the second case a simple $A$-module
so simple modules over $A\times B$ are the union of simple modules over $A$ with simple modules over $B$
you can apply that inductively to $k^n$
the only simple module over $k$ is one-dimensional
 
11:31 PM
@JoeShmo hard to tell. I felt most comfortable with set theory, computability and logic in general
 
can you take an integral transform of a matrix function?
 
But I learned enough to satisfy my philosophical interests, and would have liked to apply this to more current problems arising from biological organisms or linguistics, but that approach wasn't very fruitful in the past and it seems the logic methods are currently more adapted to computer science questions
 
@user193319 actually any module whatsover over a product ring $A \times B$ is of the form $M \oplus N$ where $M$ is an $A$-module and $N$ is a $B$-module and $A$ acts just on $M$ and $B$ just on $N$
now it's easy to see that $M\oplus N$ is simple iff $M=0$ and $N$ is simple or the other way around
 
so I'm now doing a lot of stochastic analysis and probability, which I am gradually getting better at. Among that stuff, a course on stochastic processes in neuroscience. My current plan is to maybe go into stochastic dynamical systems related to neuroscience. I'm still fascinated by turing's philosophical analysis that led to his definition of the turing machine, and by the fact that all realistic computability concepts led to the same class of computable functions.
 
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