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for the undergrads there are low dim topology lectures that have a really good lecturer
Who's that, @Eric?
ive gone to a lot of the ones for undergrads bc that’s technically the program i’m in and the organizers like got mad at undergrads for going to the grad lectures
Hi Fuzzy
You belong at grad lectures. So sneak in to a few if they're good.
i should’ve applied for the grad program cuz the undergrad program is way too easy
yeah
21:02
You should have asked me.
the lecturers name is purcell or something
Let me have a word with them
it was my bad i was a fool
Hmm ...
21:02
i think i’ll probably go to the grad ones this week
Jessica Purcell?
yes i think so
I don't know her, but I just looked her up. Now in Australia, but a student at Stanford under Steve Kerckhoff. Very cool.
You should find Rafe there, too, @Eric. He's one of the people in charge.
shes a good lecturer
This attempts to prove that a non-decreasing function has only finitely many numbers $a$ in $[0, 1]$ with $f(x^{+})-f(x^{-}) \gt \epsilon$
21:05
@TedShifrin yeah i’ve meant to track him down to say hi
sorry to hijack your conversation, but how do you do that? just wait outside their door and then say "hi im X"?
ive always had trouble talking to people I dont know
But it's is obviously wrong?
It seems pretty right to me.
Except you meant $a$ instead of $x$ in what you typed.
Yes but you keep saying stuff don't stop at hi I'm X
Why do you think it's wrong, @Fuzzy?
21:08
thats as far as my imagination goes
The way it writes out the $a_i$'s
Can you actually speak in complete thoughts? Say exactly what you claim is wrong.
@s.harp I try to find something mathematical to ask about
spit truth and truth will spit back
@s.harp well ive already met the person we were talking about so
21:11
hi @loch
Hi @TedShifrin
@s.harp You can probably post the question about possible isometry groups of noncompact manifolds on MO
Seems interesting to me
Don't see how to prove it
Could i ask an english question ?
In what language, @parvin?
It's about "ternate" as adjective, I don't know how to use it in a sentence! Can anyone help?
21:13
I don't even know the word.
I assume it has something to do with triples or thirds.
I don't understand the first step, if the numbers $1_1, \dots a_n$ are any numbers $a$ with the property discussed, then finding a bound on how many of them there can be proves nothing, and if they're supposed to represent all the possible numbers $a$, then it's wrong to write them in a list?
Why are you packing? @Ted
Hi everyone
Ternate is the largest city in the Indonesian province of North Maluku and an island in the Maluku Islands. It was the capital of the former Sultanate of Ternate and de facto provincial capital of North Maluku before being moved to Sofifi in 2010. It is off the west coast of the larger island of Halmahera
Hi @Mathein
Because I'm moving about 3 miles in less than a week, @Alessandro.
21:14
@loch @MatheinBoulomenos does every irreducible scheme has a generic point?
@Leaky yes
for the passerby the question was: does every noncompact manifolds have some metric with noncompact isometry group?
I have three piano pieces I want to play in a row, like concatenation of the three, I don't know how to write its name, like, ternate (3 pieces) of piano?!
21:15
@Fuzzy: Assume you have $n$ of them for some integer $n$. You're going to prove that $n$ can't be very big. If you are convinced there are infinitely many, choose any $122$ of them. You'll then show that cannot happen unless $\epsilon$ is very small.
what in ternation?
Doesn't every irreducible component have a generic point?
irreducible = every non-empty open subset is dense. Density is transitive so wlog assume affine. But in the affine case it's clear since irreducible components correspond to minimal primes
I would probably say triad, parvin.
Although in music that means something else, I realize.
Or a triple of pieces.
noncompact means - (the manifold is not bounded or closed?
21:17
one idea is to cook up a vector field X for which you can construct a metric with X killing, but you have to work out how to deal with periodic trajectories or non-closed trajectories; you cannot eliminate them completely, or the manifold itself should be a product M' x R
@MatheinBoulomenos so focus on one affine open subset, and pick a generic point there?
and that will be a generic point for the whole scheme?
@Ted do you know Voisin? She gave a talk here this week
Dumb question :P
21:18
:P
Voisin?
I got sniped
21:19
I don't know her personally, but she's extremely famous.
I went to a talk she gave in Trento, I understood next to nothing
I imagine she gave an excellent talk.
@Ultradark the topic is the construction of Galois representations associated to modular forms and the necessary background for that (modular forms, algebraic geometry, étale cohomology)
it was quite interesting, the topic was enumerative geometry and Hilbert schemes
@TedShifrin thank you ted
Enumerative geometry is one of my favorite things, @Mathein.
21:20
(I understood nothing because I wan't even close to having the required background, not because the talk was bad)
@MatheinBoulomenos what is the essence of enumerative geometry and Hilbert scheme
So if my set were to be infinite, the number of elements I can draw at a time should be arbitrary, but that can't be, especially for big values of epsilon, and that reflects the fact that if the discontinuities are finite, we can only make epsilon very large before none of the $a$'s satisfy the property anymore.
@MatheinBoulomenos how long is this thesis
and what font size (algebraists love small fonts)
@RyanUnger it's going to be pretty long
I think you're making it all very confusing, @Fuzzy, but basically that's correct. I imagine the $\epsilon$ is fixed to start with, however.
21:25
I have \documentclass{book} and I have chapters sections, subsections and subsubsections
So default font size is 10pt.
I think UGA required theses to be in 11 or 12 pt type.
Ted, for some reason geometric analysis has decided that standard 12 pt with standard margins is the norm
I have very small margins
In set theory thesis we have $\omega$-subsections, which are contained in all subsubsub...subsections for finitely many subs
I think 11 pt is a reasonable compromise. Sadly, a lot of textbooks (including at least one of my own) get set in 10pt and it's hard to read.
21:26
Thanks @TedShifrin.
oh jeeze so many pings while i was away
Those are journal margins (because pages are smaller). It's a waste of good paper to use them for regular purposes.
I just checked out of curiosity and apparently I used 10pt in my bachelor thesis. I had no idea
@MikeMiller ok, I will give it a try
21:29
Uh apparently in Bonn there's both a minimum and a maximum length for a thesis, we only had a soft maximum length in Trento
LOL, you're providing detailed background in fractions of pages ...
that's not the whole table of contents though
@TedShifrin I haven't fleshed out the sections yet
I still have a lot of things on paper and in my head
21:32
I was gonna ask how much you were fitting on p.6.
Maybe infinitesimal point size.
@MatheinBoulomenos lmao
@RyanUnger Over a hundred pages for a bachelor thesis? wtf
I have nothing to present for my thesis...
Oh, unrelated but all this talking about theses reminded me of it, I found a great source for Connes's reconstruction theorem if you're interested @Ryan
21:36
@AlessandroCodenotti 141 not including bib
it's also like
12 point font
@RyanUnger lol my bachelor thesis was like 20 pages. Here in Bonn we have an hard limit of 100 pages even for the master's
I don't think it's going to be under 100 pages for me with my current plan
my group did write 77 pages for our 3-week year 2 group project on knot theory though
I could not have proved the Yamabe conjecture in fewer pages
There's not a lot of fluff
I cut out some stuff on homotopy groups of LCF manifolds
@AlessandroCodenotti oh cool
preparing my CV makes me want to puke
both because I hate having to be a "salesman" for myself
but also because I feel like it's thin in places
21:51
@RyanUnger The full reconstruction theorem is pretty crazy
"One should not be misled by the expression $|\nabla\phi|^2$: it is by no means a positive quantity!"
Sounds like bad notation then
What exactly is it then
It's $g^{\mu\nu}\partial_\mu\phi\partial_\nu\phi$
21:54
@AlessandroCodenotti i forgot you were at bonn. the website is very organized
ah, that'd do it
@MikeMiller I am, I'm only a master's student though :P
in my hyperbolic PDE class we wrote that as $|\partial\phi|^2$ to differentiate from the spatial part of the gradient, which is positive
probably not ideal but better than this
So it's like saying $a^2=a_1^2+a_2^2+a_3^2-a_0^2$
(some things on the website are a pain to find, but it's much better than the website of my previous institution)
21:54
yeah
that's not great but I can understand why they're stuck with that
yeah, I figured that was just a list of graduate students
i mean, I'm fine with $(\partial_\mu \phi)(\partial^\mu \phi)$
but that gets laborious
Yeah I don't know what the best solution is
Choquet-Bruhat writes $\partial\phi\cdot\partial\phi$
it's stuff like this which makes me respect the intention of penrose notation if not the actual practice of it
22:00
looooool
can you even describe inequalities using Penrose notation
sure. write two bunches of squiggles and put > between them :P
(whether you should is another matter)
I mean I guess you can throw an integral over some Penrose notation mess
How do i write the energy momentum tensor in Penrose notation
big brain
 
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Is there a functional equation connecting $\sum_{n=1}^\infty p_n^s$ with $\sum_{n=1}^\infty (-1)^n p_n^s$?
Or $\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{p_n}{n^s}$ with $\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{(-1)^n p_n}{n^s}$?
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