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10:00 PM
The proof of Hopf Umlaufsatz is one we always skip, anyhow, although I wrote it carefully.
 
apparently the new do carmo avoids it by using an isothermal parametrization
instead of an orthogonal pne
 
@quallenjäger: I have never thought about this.
 
@TedShifrin when i was lecturing out of your notes in my year of the bootcamp shlag made me work through the umlaufsatz
i think its a cute theorem at least but it is kind of a departure
 
There's a very subtle step which I left to the exercises, and it was only when I wrote my own solutions manual and tried to do the exercise that I realize how tricky it was. I ended up rewriting the problem completely. @EricS
 
lots of tricky stuff in curves and surfaces i guess really
 
10:04 PM
yup ...
 
i think the couple of kids, who took the surfaces course from schlag last spring, in the current year who im TAing for saw cherns proof of gauss bonnet
 
Using forms, you mean?
Or do you mean the high dimensional version!! ??
 
But I can always complete the space $V \otimes W$?
 
using forms
not 2n dim boi
 
OK, @EricSilva. I basically sketch that in my forms section, anyhow.
@quallenjäger: This stuff is too subtle for me to answer. I've never thought about it. You might do some googling.
 
10:07 PM
or maybe they did one using poincare hopf i dont remember what they told me now
 
Balarka is fond of Poincaré-Hopf, but he can't explain boundary terms.
 
I don't think Schlag likely did Poincare-Hopf
 
@Daminark one of his kiddos said he did tho
 
Based on talking to some of my friends in the class he didn't really do stuff like degree or transversally
 
Eric, I know I sent it to Balarka, but did I ever send you my paper on integro-geometric local Gauss-Bonnet/local Poincaré-Hopf? Neat stuff on polar varieties, too.
 
10:09 PM
Wait really? Hmm, a friend of mine sent me his notes from the guy's class so I'll check
 
@TedShifrin i do not believe so? im not sure though, you sent me a couple papers long ago
when i was a different boi
 
@TedShifrin I see, still thank you. But I meant for a general infinite dimensional $V$, can I always complete it with respect to a norm?
 
You can certainly complete any metric space, but I don't know if you can do that norm-compatibly. This is certainly known, just not by me.
 
im excited to take a look at the complex geo exercises you sent me come fall though Ted, since i will probably be taking complex geo w Webster in all likelihood
 
@TedShifrin Do you know where I can find some reference to that
 
10:13 PM
No, but you should be asking Eric and others, @quallenjäger, or even search on main and possibly post.
 
@quallenjäger the cheap way to do it is to embed the normed space into its double dual and take the closure
However the standard business with Cauchy sequences will also work
 
@TedShifrin Thank you Ted.
 
Ooooh, silly me for not saying to ask Demonark.
Thanks, Demonark.
Of course, that's the natural way to do it.
 
dont ask me anything im too stoopid
 
Me too, Eric :P
Let me see if I can figure out what I've emailed you.
 
10:15 PM
@Daminark What do I gain if I embed it into the double dual?
 
The dual space of anything is a Banach space, so now you have your normed space isometrically embedded into a Banach space, so its closure is Banach
 
@Daminark what does the first part of this statement mean
 
Of any normed space, wrt operator norm
 
@EricS: I did send you that paper, along with others that are more algebro-geometric. Plus all sorts of exercises on diff geo and complex geo and bundles & char. classes.
 
So the closure is not the double dual it self right?
I can land-up with a closed set in the double dual?
 
10:19 PM
Yeah in general you'll have a closed subspace of the double dual
 
That's a good question :)
What's an example where $V$ is not dense in $V^{**}$?
 
ok nooooormed
 
@TedShifrin Do you have an example?
 
No.
 
@TedShifrin i gotcha, id probably find it if i just search your name in my gmail
 
10:20 PM
@Daminark Thank you. Now I understand.
 
@EricS: It appears I've sent you enough stuff to keep you busy for ages :P
 
indeed
 
Not your gmail. It's your UC addy.
 
Let $\cdot : \mathbb{Z}\times \mathbb{Z}\rightarrow \mathbb{Z}$ be the usual multiplication and let $n\in \mathbb{N}$.

To show that $[a]\cdot_n [b]:=[a\cdot b]$ defines a concatenation of $\mathbb{Z}/n\mathbb{Z}$, we have to show that $[a]\cdot_n [b]\in \mathbb{Z}/n\mathbb{Z}$ for all $a,b\in \mathbb{Z}/n\mathbb{Z}$, or not?
 
my uc email is a gmail
 
10:21 PM
@TedShifrin I see, I'll thnk about that
 
ohhh, never mind.
 
i have a looong laundry list of thing to do lol
 
@MaryStar: What you're saying doesn't make sense. It's $[a],[b]\in\Bbb Z/n\Bbb Z$.
You have to show it's well-defined. I.e., if $[a]=[a']$ and $[b]=[b']$, why does $[ab] = [a'b']$?
Try it with numbers to make sure you understand what this means.
 
Isa
10:38 PM
Is this function analytic right? f(z)=z^(1/3)
 
It's not even a function.
 
Isa
no?
why is not a function?
complex function
 
Because every $z$ except $0$ has three cube roots.
 
o..o
 
Ah ok! So we have that $[a]=[a']$ means that $a\equiv a' \pmod n\Rightarrow \exists k_1\in \mathbb{Z}: a=a'+k_1n$. Respectively we have that $\exists k_2\in \mathbb{Z}: b=b'+k_2n$.
Then $ab=(a'+k_1n)(b'+k_2n)=a'b'+(a'k_2+k_1b')n+k_1k_2n^2$. From that we get that $ab\equiv a'b'\pmod n$. This means that $[ab]=[a'b']$.
Is everything correct?
 
10:41 PM
Yup.
 
Great! Thank you!! @TedShifrin
 
Hi all! I have a question. If I have a graph with exactly 2 vertices of odd degree, how can I prove they're connected?
I've reached the conclusion that I need to assume they aren't and look at the connected components of each vertex
Is it because when I do that, I find that all of the vertices in each connected component are of even degree?
 
If you take a connected component of a graph, that's a graph itself, but by handshake theorem the sum of the degrees is twice the the number of edges, in particular it's even
So you can't have a graph where only one vertex has odd degree
 
10:59 PM
Ahhh, excellent
Thank you
 
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