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12:21 AM
hey @TedShifrin our U.S was telling us how she wants to move to Canada
permanently if trump wins haha
 
12:42 AM
She is far from alone, Karim. But I'm reasonably confident this won't happen. I just voted and I want to remove myself from the next month.
 
I just want a landslide.
 
Me too.
But there are a lot of haters out there, including a few who show up here, apparently. (Danu will censor me again, no doubt.)
I just added a comment on one of your comments, @MikeM. Things are a bit more subtle when you stay in the holomorphic category, re Chern classes.
 
@Ted Oh, good call. The tautological bundle doesn't have many sections. I ignored the holomorphic bit.
I already contacted him privately, saying I don't think he's going to get much "from the exact sequence alone".
 
Well, the exact sequence leads you to the right $(1,1)$-form, actually.
 
I also don't think he wants the curvature story, since it kills torsion.
 
12:51 AM
For $c_1$ there isn't torsion.
You're too used to real stuff.
 
oh your here @TedShifrin
 
If the manifold isn't simply connected there can be.
 
No I'm not.
 
Take an Enriques surface.
 
I wanted to ask you if you got the solution manual for your book ? I am planning to solve it and go systematically over it
 
12:52 AM
Hmm, how do you get torsion by pulling back cohomology from $\Bbb P^n$?
 
but I wanted to check my my soln are correct
 
The map goes in the other direction!
 
Say what, @MikeM?
 
It would just say that eg twice the generator dies in the pullback.
 
the multi variable mathematics book @TedShifrin
 
12:53 AM
I know, Karim. There's no solutions manual freely available. If you want to send me occasional well-written things to critique, I'll be glad to do that for you.
 
okay sounds good. yeah I can send my solutions to you just to get some critique over my soln
I didn't take a rigorous multi-variable course so that would be really nice
 
Very few people did, Karim.
 
it is such a shame
 
OK, @MikeM, I sit corrected. I'll have to ponder this a bit.
 
brb gonna go grab the bus
 
12:56 AM
Buses are awfully big to grab.
 
@Ted: There should be a flat holomorphic line bundle on an Enriques surface.
 
It's been years since I've thought about Enriques surfaces. :(
You mean flat but nontrivial, of course.
 
Right.
I don't have many examples to work with... I like k3 and related objects.
 
I haven't thought about surfaces in many years. I miss them. I wonder if the canonical bundle of an Enriques fits your bill.
 
1:15 AM
I am gonna attend this talk tomorrow
seems interesting but I don't think I will understand a lot
Title: Some new Fano fourfolds

Abstract: I will discuss some new Fano fourfolds found in quiver flag varieties as zero loci of sections of homogenous vector bundles. This is work with Tom Coates. The classification of Fano varieties up to deformation is known in dimensions 1, 2, and 3. The program of Corti, Galkin, Golsyhev, Kasprzyk, and others seeks to use mirror symmetry to find and classify Fano varieties in dimension 4 (and more). Küchle classified 4 dimensional Fano varieties of this form in Grassmannians; quiver flag varieties are a generalization of Grassmannians that include flag
I think @MikeMiller you understand those stuff right ?
I can't wait for the day I am actually understanding seminar talk
 
What are the open problems in algebraic topology? I'm curious because everyone here seems interested in that vs general topology
 
@Adeek: That's some serious algebraic geometry there.
But you definitely need to be learning Grassmannians soon :)
@Forever: There's more stuff going on in geometric topology of various sorts than in algebraic topology. There is some long-standing work in homotopy theory questions, but I honestly don't know what "pure" algebraic topologists are doing.
 
I learned grassmannian from differential geometry class
the is the only word I know haha @TedShifrin
there is a lot of algebraic geometers here @TedShifrin
 
1:31 AM
Grassmannians were the key to my thesis work, Karim. I love them. :)
 
I should buy ipad so I can read books while I am on the bus going home
 
@Ted: Yeah, I think it does.
Karim: I don't know any of that stuff.
 
I do too, @MikeM. I just don't berember that stuff.
 
cool @TedShifrin yeah I need to learn more and more. So, I can have a clear idea when I start writing my thesis I know what I will write about or prove.
 
That's a bit down the road, Karim. Just learn in the meantime.
 
1:32 AM
I think for now I should concentrate on subjects and learning in my free time and problem solving
yeah @TedShifrin
 
@Ted: I would have to think about it. My favorite approach is to think of K3 as a resolution of T^4 mod pm 1.
Probably pretty easy to write down from this perspective.
Kodaira proved K3s are all deformation equivalent. Is that true for Enriques' too?
 
 
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5:31 AM
If ylogx = 6 & log14x^8y =3 then how to get the value of x.....?
 
the first equation says $x^y=6$
wait in the second equation is y in the power ?
 
@ffahim do you mean log_14(x^(8y))? use parentheses.
use power rule for logarithms
and change of base formula so both logarithms have the same base
actually that's probably log(14x^(8y)), in which case forget change of base formula, apply product rule then power rule
 
6:25 AM
Can you pls kindly give the whole solution...pls @arctictern
@ForeverMozart yes the power is 8y
Pls can u pls give the full solution @ForeverMozart
 
let me see
 
@ForeverMozart @arctictern I have tried to go towards....something like this Log_(14(x)^8y)= log_14 + log_(x)^8y= 3 ... then log_14+8log_x^y=3 then ...?:/
 
im confused. Is it ln(14*(x^(8y)))
 
No its log(14(x^8y)).... is it okay now :-)?
 
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Where is Balarka ._.
 
6:40 AM
lol what is the difference?
so it is log base 10?
 
Yeah..
Not e based
 
I do not think there is a solution
$y\ln x=6=2*3=2*\ln(14x^{8y})=16y \ln(14x)$
oh
so $\ln x=16\ln(14x)$
but then $x=14xe^{16}$
$1=14e^{16}$
no solution
 
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My bad; sorry.
 
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Anyways, @Balarka, you here?
 
Yes
 
6:46 AM
i guess $y$ could be $0$ and then $x$ could be anything
so there's a solution
 
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Well, last night I asked a question about countability of subset of $\mathbb N;$ got a pretty answer from Brian.
 
Okay... tell me one thing @ForeverMozart is there any way or trick to find out the value of log2 ... without calculator.....?
 
?????
Pls
 
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The question was basically about one statement in the proof $f(n)\geq n$ for each $n\in \mathbb N\,.$
 
6:48 AM
log 2=a means 2=10^a
but that is not easy to solve
 
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Where $f$ maps the subset to $\mathbb N\,.$
 
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It is an injection.
 
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The proof was showing then how it is surjective too.
 
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Then the author invoked the condition above.
 
Ooh I see... and why don't we take the base of log negative? @ForeverMozart
 
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6:49 AM
I asked how the author concluded the condition.
 
I don't understand. $f$ is just an injective map from a subset of $\Bbb N$ to $\Bbb N$?
Without more hypothesis, it need not be surjective.
 
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@BalarkaSen The proof needed to show $f$ is bijective.
 
I am asking what are the hypothesis on $f$.
 
what is the question
 
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@BalarkaSen Initially, it was just taken as a map.
 
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6:53 AM
$f: S\mapsto \mathbb N\,.$
 
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where $S$ is the subset.
 
Q: What does a drowning number theorist say?
 
log log, log log log
 
yes :)
 
@MAFIA36790 What else?
 
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6:54 AM
Nothing more.
 
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Anyways, coming to my question....
 
@MAFIA36790 then you can conclude precisely nothing about the map
 
Well, that doesn't make any sense, precisely for the reason Tobias said
 
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Wait, I'm showing the post....
 
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Probably missed something or so; but check the complete excerpt:
 
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6:56 AM
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Q: Problem in understanding the proof of existence of a bijective function between a subset of Natural number and set of Natural number itself.

MAFIA36790I was reading this pdf where I came across this proposition and its proof: Proposition 2: Let $S \subset \mathbb N$ be an infinite subset. Then there exists a bijection between $S$ and $\mathbb N.$ Proof: You might think this is intuitively clear. But let’s prove it carefully. We define a...

 
$f$ pretty darn sure isn't "just a map" there. They define it explicitly.
Not all maps $\Bbb N \to S$ are bijections.
(Which, speaking of, your domain and codomain are switched)
 
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@BalarkaSen yeh, noticed that; typo.
 
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Re-reading it again; I think I can sought out my confusion; otherwise I'll ask.
 
Sure
 
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:)
 
7:03 AM
Mmmm
 
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BTW, if you don't know already, @Balarka, JD will not be returning for another year in h bar. So, the bar is pretty good now.
 
That's (good) news. How did that come to happen?
 
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@BalarkaSen You know...
 
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ban...
 
Funny, I never thought that guy wrote anything ban-able. But physics.SE mods are strict and impatient.
 
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7:08 AM
Anyways, will not talk about the man who is banned, but except 0celo7 everyone is quite okay with it ;P
 
understandably
 
he is banned?
what a bunch of horseshit
 
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He dared to talk physics in h-bar which is a punishable offence.
 
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H-bar is only for maths.
 
7:09 AM
where is that?
 
I disagree with that.
 
link?
 
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And sometimes maths-physics ;)
 
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re-reading...
 
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@ForeverMozart oh; you don't know h bar? Are you asking for the link of the room?
 
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7:15 AM

 The h Bar

General chat for Physics SE (physics.stackexchange.com). For M...
 
so he's banned here too?
 
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Don't know whether he comes here or not.
 
0celo7?
 
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?_?
 
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I was not talking about 0celo7.
 
7:25 AM
@BalarkaSen One of my collaborators has just sent in a proposal for us (as well as some others) to form a SQuaRE (except we will be 5 people, so it will really be a pentagon).
 
@TobiasKildetoft What's a SQuaRE?
 
hah, that's pretty nice
 
i am not a collaborator
hey if I submitted a paper over 2 months ago and have not heard anything, should I ask what's going on?
 
@ForeverMozart you mean not heard even a confirmation that it was received?
 
7:34 AM
I think they said it was received
but I have no idea if anyone is reviewing it
 
then 2 months is not that long
I think anything less than 6 months is too optimistic to hope for, but after 6 months it is usually considered ok to inquire about the status
(math reviewers are slow)
 
I would share the link to my paper on Arxiv
but then I would have to reveal my true identity ;)
 
heh. If I really felt like it I could probably find it given the amount of information you have revealed about what the topic is. But that sounds like way too much work
 
yeah
i like to leave a margin of indefiniteness
 
whatever
 
7:41 AM
How to solve this differential equation?

\frac{d^2 \theta}{dt^2}=-k\theta
 
your papers are very difficult
$\frac{d^2 \theta}{dt^2}=-k\theta$
 
@ForeverMozart mine?
 
yes the symbols!!!
 
symbols? What symbols?
 
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@ItachíUchiha How?
 
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7:50 AM
Take the non-trivial trial solution as $\theta = Ce^{mt}\ne 0\,.$
 
8:23 AM
This is a weird combinatorial thing I am getting into now. So I am considering those Young diagrams which have the property that whenever an odd-numbered row has an odd length, then the next row has the same length. Out of these, how many (relatively) have the further property that whenever an even-numbered row has even length, then the next row has the same length?
 
you want to consider some type of density
 
Well, ideally I would like a nice formula for the numbers of each type of diagram, but that seems unlikely. So I would settle for (even an approximation) of the ratio
 
oh
given the dimensions
how many have the property
 
Ohh, right, these are corresponding to partitions of the same (even) number. I also actually forgot to mention a condition on them which is that they should be tileable using dominoes
I think the fact that they are tileable together with the condition on the odd-numbered rows mean that whenever an even-numbered row has an odd length, then the row above it has the same length (this is at least true up to partitions of 6), but I am not sure.
 
8:50 AM
 
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9:14 AM
@ForeverMozart Was it from the Presidential campaign? Quite bold.
 
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Okay, @balarka, I've read it again; but still I'm not getting the last point of Brian's answer:
 
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A: Problem in understanding the proof of existence of a bijective function between a subset of Natural number and set of Natural number itself.

Brian M. ScottLet $B=\{n\in\Bbb N:f(n)<n\}$. If there is some $n\in\Bbb N$ such that $f(n)<n$, then $B\ne\varnothing$, so $B$ has a least element $m$. Clearly $m>0$ (why?), so $m=k+1$ for some $k\in\Bbb N$. Then $k\notin B$, so $f(k)\ge k$. But $f(m)<m$, so $f(m)\le k$, and therefore $f(m)\le f(k)$, contradict...

 
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I got $f(m)\leq f(k)\,.$
 
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But how is it "contradicting the construction of $f$"?
 
@MAFIA36790 because by construction you have $f(n) \geq n$.
 
9:18 AM
$m = k+1$, so that says $f(k+1) \leq f(k)$. But that's garbage due to how $f$ is defined.
 
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@TobiasKildetoft yes.
 
Namely, $f(n+1)$ is recursively the least element in the complement of $f(\{0, 1, \cdots, n\})$.
If $x = f(k+1)$ was really smaller than $f(k)$, $f(k)$ would have have taken the value $x$.
 
9:39 AM
@BalarkaSen My mentor thinks what I have been doing recently ought to be worth writing up as a paper, so now I need to figure out what sort of thing goes into a paper in computational algebra
 
@TobiasKildetoft May I ask what you have been working on?
 
@BalarkaSen computing the left-, right- and twosided Kazhdan-Lusztig cells in some small rank cases
as well as Hasse diagrams for the two-sided orders (still working on ones for the other orders)
 
ah, ok
 
The diagram for type $B_6$ looks quite nice dropbox.com/s/3vaxzpfwbn0jhy9/B6-twosided.pdf?dl=0
The full twosided cells look less nice dropbox.com/s/wa1rj8h9pvem0st/B6-full.pdf?dl=0
 
cute, although I don't really know what those signify
 
9:48 AM
I have a computer working on type $B_7$ at the moment
The nodes in the graph are twosided KL cells which correspond to a certain partition of the representations of the Hecke algebra
and the arrows are the twosided order which correspond to twosided ideals generated by the corresponding elements
 
ok.
 
These cells are indexed by those types of partitions I mentioned counting earlier (with the subset I wanted to count indexing those that are strongly regular), and the order is the dominance order on such partitions (at least for the cases I have calculated so far).
 
Hello. someone know a counter example to prove that $f(A)\cap f(A') \subset f(A\cap A')$ is not true where $f:E\rightarrow F$ is an application and $A,A'\subset E$
 
@BalarkaSen I had to set the page size to 100x230 inches for that full pdf of the cells
 
if $f$ is injective the statment is true , but have a counter example where $f$ is not injective ?
 
9:56 AM
@Vrouvrou take $E$ to have two elements which are sent to the same element in $F$
(also, it is called a function in English)
 
@TobiasKildetoft thank you for example $f: \{a,b\}\rightarrow \{a,b\}$ whith $f(a)=b, f(b)=a$
 
so how?
 
that one does not satisfy what I said
 
$E$ has two elements
and F has the same elements as E
 
10:01 AM
I did not say that $F$ should have the same elements as $E$
 
ok
$f:\{a,b\}\rightarrow \{a,b,c\}$ and $f(a)=a, f(b)=c$ for example ?
 
"which are sent to the same element in F" is the important part.
 
$f(b)=b$
you mean this this by "sent to the same element in F
$f(a)=a, f(b)=b
$
 
those are not the same element.
 
you means $f(a)=f(b)$
 
10:07 AM
yes
 
ok so i take $f:\{a,b\}\rightarrow \{a,b,c\}$ and $f(a)=f(b)=c$
 
and $A=\{a,b\}$ and $A'=\{b\}$
 
try taking the sets disjoint
 
$A=\{a\}$ $A'=\{b\}$
 
10:10 AM
right
 
$f(A\cap A')= \emptyset$ and $f(A)\cap f(B)=\{c\}$
thank you
 
10:41 AM
Is it possible to search the site for question with specific equation? Example: $a^3+b^4=c^5$
The search yields nothing but I don't trust SO search too much
 
@ypercubeᵀᴹ I think someone on meta mentioned a customized search engine which allows for such
namely, it also allows for the possibility that someone used a slightly different notation
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Q: Announcing a third-party search engine for Math StackExchange.

Wei ZhongApproach0 is a math-aware search engine. “Math-aware” means you can add math expression(s) as some of your keywords to have search engine help you find similar expressions. Check out here: https://approach0.xyz This is my side-project, hopefully it can be useful in some cases to help Math SE use...

 
Is the following rather trivial looking algebaic structure self consistent (i.e. no two distinct elements can be shown to be equal). Can we really use the properties of the left zero subsemigroup formed by the + cayley table to simplify the distributive law and + associative law for this algebraic structure as follows?
 
@Secret not sure what you mean.
 
@TobiasKildetoft Thnx. Looks very good.
 
$a,b,c$ are any elements in the structure. The elements 0,1,q are the 3 distinct elements (and in no way should be treated as the zero or one as we knew, thus they are just abstract labels for the elements)
(i should fix the labels to emphasize they are just arbitrary elements, give me a sec..)
So... basically...
In this algebrac structure, we have 3 elements p,q,r
Their + cayley table is isomorphic to the left zero semigroup
while their * cayley table is isomorphic to the cyclic group of 3 elements $\mathbb{Z}/3\mathbb{Z}$
Now for a distributive law to hold:
a(b+c) need to be = ab+bc
From the * cayley table, we knew that * is closed thus any products of the form ab must be any of the 3 elements p,q,r
Now from the + cayley table, all 3 elements are left zeros thus $\exists z,\forall a, z+a=z$
Combining the above two reasonings we found that ab is also a left zero
Therefore ab+ac=ab, and a(b+c)=a(b)=ab. Thus the distributive law holds for all a,b,c
Is this a correct deduction?
 
10:59 AM
@Secret Yes, for left distributivity
 
We should be able to use simialr reasoning to show that (b+c)a=(b)a=ba, and ba+ca=ba, thus right distributivity should also holds?
 
and similarly , to show that (a+b)+c=a+c=a, and a+(b+c)=a+b=a, thus + associativty also holds
 
Now the interesting question:
In group theory we knew that the fitting subgroup will control the sovability of a solvable group. Here
we also see a simialr phenomenon where nearly everything of this algebraic structure is controlled or dictated by the subsemigroup that is the + cayley table. Is there a general name for a subobject that has such controllign behaviour to the object in question?
 
@Secret But this is not a subobject (it is the image of a forgetful functor instead).
Anyway, I need to go teach now.
 
11:07 AM
ok, see ya
 
 
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12:13 PM
(2^X-1)^1/2=y ...what's it's domain?
 
@MikeMiller I wonder if you know any easy explanation of the fact that " $S^1\times S^2$ is the only prime (3) manifold is a cover of a non-prime manifold $ \mathbb RP^3#\mathbb RP^3$"
This sounds a bit odd...so let me put in this way... The only example of a prime manifold which is a cover of a non prime manifold is $S^1\times S^2 \to RP^3 \# RP^3$
 
@ffahim in the reals or complex?
 
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12:34 PM
@Ramanujan: Do u have the time to solve a problem together? I dunno y I'm not getting it right :/
 
As far I have learned in text book only real answers are granted...@Secret :-)
 
well, in that case the domain are the x where y is real
the squareroot is important here
 
hi guys
anyone who knows some circuit theory?
 
12:50 PM
Someone said that there is an "aleph fixed point", which means that a number for which the subscript of the aleph is equal to itself. Then, he proceeded to say that that number is an "endless cascade of aleph", meaning $\aleph_{\aleph_{\aleph_{\cdots}}}$. My question is: is this legit?
2. a torus surface (genus 1) can be formed from a square by identify the two pairs of opposite edges. is there a way to generate a sphere surface (genus 0) with a similar method?
 
@Kaumudi yes
 
hey...... does 0 belong to R+ ?
 
@ffahim no
 
@ffahim why 0 does not belong to R-? @DHMO
 
Who is "someone"? I don't dare say if it's right or not, but in any case using Aleph as a subscript like that seems fishy, and I've definitely neve come across it. I've only seen $0,1, 2, \dots$ and ordinals $\omega$ as indices for Aleph
 

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