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r9m
12:15 AM
@robjohn similar ? :-)
 
@r9m Hmm... It is similar, but it has an extra factor. I will have to see if I can handle that, too.
@r9m when the integral is computed, it has logs and arctans, so I don't feel so bad that the simplified method I used does not cover it.
 
r9m
@robjohn okay :-) I had the same feeling .. I tried to manipulate the terms of the series but failed :|
 
@r9m it is not as simple as my answer.
 
r9m
12:33 AM
@robjohn :-)
 
@r9m The Beta function would have been my fallback if I couldn't get a recursion. When I saw the simple form the OP gave, I knew that a recursion was possible.
 
r9m
12:51 AM
@Chris'ssis @robjohn I was trying this .. and thinking if we can compute the higher powers $$\sum\limits_{n=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{n}\left(\frac{1}{n+1}-\frac{1}{n+2}+\frac{1}{n‌​+3}-\cdots\right)^{3}$$ and $$\sum\limits_{n=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{n}\left(\frac{1}{n+1}-\frac{1}{n+2}+\frac{1}{n‌​+3}-\cdots\right)^{4}$$ ? :-)
 
@r9m I don't see an easy way to compute the powers.
 
r9m
@robjohn If I try to write it like in Ron Gordon's solution .. I can't manage the triple integral resulting from it :|
 
$$\int_0^1\frac{x^n}{1+x}\,\mathrm{d}x$$
@r9m repeat for $x$, $y$, $z$, etc. sum over $n$ to get $\frac1{1+xyz\dots}$
Time for the park... BBL
 
later
 
r9m
@robjohn $$\int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{1} \dfrac{1}{(1+x)(1+y)(1+z)(1+xyz)}\,dx\,dy\,dz = \int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{1} \left( \dfrac{\ln 2 - \ln(1+yz)}{(1+y)(1+z)(1-yz)} \right)\,dy\,dz$$ but after that I'm toast :O
 
1:08 AM
@r9m I am leaving, but at first glance, I'd try some partial fractions.
 
r9m
@robjohn okay :)
 
1:47 AM
Hi, I have a quick question, could someone help: What property does it have if a matrix is both symmertic and unitary, i.e. $$A^T=A, A^\dagger A=I$$?
Thanks.
 
Should I include page numbers for my lemmas for my professor's grading convenience?
 
2:03 AM
@xslittlegrass what does the dagger mean?
 
2:17 AM
Warning: this matrix is armed and dangerous :-)
 
r9m
@IceBoy lol :P
IceBoy ?!!
 
:D
 
r9m
:O
 
yep, time for a change
 
r9m
@IceBoy ic :) !! but why Ice Boy ? ..
 
2:24 AM
12 hours ago, by Ice Boy
yes, it complements "ice girl"
 
r9m
@IceBoy :D
 
@robjohn the dagger means hermitian, ie the transpose then complex conjugate.
 
@xslittlegrass ah... I usually see $A^\ast$ for that.
 
r9m
@IceBoy Ice Boy and Ice Girl how quaint =)
 
2:28 AM
@robjohn sorry for that, I come from physics background, the notation is different in math.
 
:-)
 
@robjohn do you have any idea what properties it should have?
 
 
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3:58 AM
Evening, @TedShifrin
and @MichaelAlbanese
Though perhaps it's morning there.
 
 
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5:37 AM
Shouldn't you @MikeMiller be asleep by now?
 
Sleep? Never
 
I did read once about a guy who never slept, but I didn't believe it.
 
I don't either
 
You can die faster from lack of sleep than from lack of food.
That^ I believe.
 
Aye
 
 
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6:50 AM
@Will Jagy which publication did you see that reformulation of robin's inequality with the totient function and the primorials? let me know please
 
7:12 AM
Greetings!!!
 
7:23 AM
I have a proof that simply blows up everything (it's about a very tough alternating harmonic series) ... :D
@r9m see above :D
 
7:50 AM
Greetings.
 
8:10 AM
I'm having some doubt in real analysis which i actually think that is a doubt regarding first order logic, free-variables, etc ... Could anyone help ? postimg.org/image/vur5jxf7t
 
think harder on why we have taken maximum of $n_1,n_2$
 
Mystical greetings!
 
@rehband :D
@r9m I have something great for you.
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis :D
 
@r9m I'm just cooking it ...
 
r9m
8:24 AM
@Chris'ssis :D
@Chris'ssis which alternating harmonic series ?
 
@r9m $$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} (-1)^{n+1} \frac{H_n^3}{n}$$
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis elementary proof ? :D
 
@r9m Of course ...
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis Cool :D
 
Jayesh, well we have to take the max becacause any number greater than max(x,y) is greater than x and also greater than y
 
8:41 AM
@r9m Prove elementarily (without special functions) that
$$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} (-1)^{n+1} \frac{H_{n+1}^2}{n+2}-\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{n+2}\left(1+\frac{1}{2^2}+\cdots +\frac{1}{(n+1)^2}\right)=\frac{1}{3}\log^3(2)$$
There is a very fast way of doing that.
 
9:07 AM
@IceBoy:Skull and Icegirl, sitting in a tree. $\kappa - (\sqrt{-1}) - S^2 -\mathbb I - \mathbb N- (9.8 \text{m/s}^2) $
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there are no trees on the internet?
 
@IceBoy: I've finally gotten used to $\LaTeX$. Achievement unlocked.
@IceBoy: It's the internet. It is a tree. Hence, in a tree.
 
so, on the internet while in a tree?
 
@IceBoy: Srrsly, is she you? Yo tha' crzy dawg?
 
tis all good in da hood brotha
 
9:16 AM
Very diplomatic response, brother.
Yo, Eisensteins, hook this brotha up with tha function havin such a gnarly graph:
It looks like Descartes signed his name.
 
@IceBoy: I get it, you can draw a hella lot with graphs. But is there any way I can reconstruct the function from the graph?
 
hmmm...good question
 
@IceBoy: My function is periodic, so there probably won't be much of a problem... for you braniacs.
@IceBoy: Wait, never mind, that graph is not a function
What a waste of time. :(
 
Nick
A function and its graph completely determine one another, so theres no such a thing as having a graph but not knowing the function it represents, or vice-versa
 
9:26 AM
@nerdy: Yes.
 
Because afterall a function f : A -> B is a subset of A x B
and the graph completely specifies the elements of this subset of A x B ( each point of the graph represents a pair (a,b) in this subset )
Now, one thing you might be asking is if every graph has a function which can be described by a single algebraic equation
 
thats whole different issue
 
@nerdy: ... I knew that. Still don't know how to know the function by looking at the graph.
 
@nerdy I think the question was more in the spirit of interpolating a function whose zero set closely resembles a plotted picture.
 
9:29 AM
Nick, i'm telling you completely know the function ... you don't know an algebraic equation which summarizes the action of the function from the domain to the co-domain
 
@IceBoy: I see multiple functions make cool pictures.
@nerdy: Yes, exactly. I don't know that :D
 
for example, by knowing graph in R^2 whose points are (0,1) and (1,2 ), we completely know its function ... its function is f = { (0,1) , (1,2) } which is a subset of R^2 . But now, we can also think of an elegant and quick way to summarize the action of the function from the domain into the codomain : f(x) = x+1 in that case .
 
@IceBoy: Nice :D
 
this ellegant and quick way to summarize that you might not get from the graph, but we have the function completely
even withouth this way of summarizing
 
9:33 AM
@nerdy What's to say that the set of points is even defined by an algebraic equation?
 
yeah, thats what i mean
 
@nerdy: @Alex makes a good point.
 
but the question on how to know the function by knowing its graph doesnt make sense
you may not know one way to represent it
but u still know the function
 
@nerdy: Yes, I understand. If I love you, it doesn't mean I know how to say it.
 
know on that phrase reffers to courage or intellect ?
 
9:38 AM
Doesn't matter.
But then again, if I have a function, no time to plot it, I can't accurately know what it looks like.
 
yeah, the existence of the graph of a function is independent on your acknowledgement of its shape
 
:D lol
 
what is the simplest graph?
 
you have to define simplest first ?
 
requires the least effort to draw
 
9:42 AM
@IceBoy: f(x) =$\tan (\pi / 2)$ . Don't draw anything!
 
i guess it depends on the person ? Some ppl might have a harder time drawing circles than lines and some other ppl might have it reversed
 
@Nick the tan of 90 degrees is undefined
@Nick is not drawing anything a graph?
 
@IceBoy: yes, ofcourse.
 
how so?
 
What is -2.35619 ?
 
9:47 AM
what does the word "graph" mean?
 
@IceBoy: The Graph of a function is best described as its representation on the Cartesian plane.
@N3buchadnezzar: A negative rational number which is somewhat close to the irrational number $(\frac{-3\pi}{3})$
 
You have to have a graph "of" something.

You can't say "I have a graph of undefined"
Therefore, I draw nothing.
7 mins ago, by Nick
@IceBoy: f(x) =$\tan (\pi / 2)$ . Don't draw anything!
 
Maybe my logic is tainted.
 
@Nick More like $-3\pi/4$
 
@N3buchadnezzar: that's what I meant. Shucks.
 
9:53 AM
$f(x) = \infty$ can't possibly be a function.
=P
 
@BalarkaSen: You're right.
@IceBoy: I take it back. You can't plot what I said. Easiest I know is thus $f(x) = 0$ The x-axis is already drawn XD
 
@Nick :p Did you do it in your head or ?
 
You are getting close to the answer :-)

The simplest graph to draw is the graph of a number.
 
@N3buchadnezzar: The approximation? I have lot of pi multiples in my head.
 
@Nick ^^ I only knew a few
 
9:56 AM
@N3buchadnezzar: If you allow me to use a log table ... wait a second.
 
OK, what's your definition of simplest graph?
 
Whenever I see page 157 or something, I get hungry and think about pie
 
The graph of a number is the point on a number line that is paired with the number.
 
@BalarkaSen: One in which I don't have to draw anything! A blank graph. Got any function like that?
 
@Nick $f(x) = i$ works, right?
 
9:57 AM
What could be simpler than drawing one point?
 
If you're plotting over $\Bbb R$.
@IceBoy Drawing nothing.
Look above.
 
8 mins ago, by Ice Boy
You have to have a graph "of" something.

You can't say "I have a graph of undefined"
 
$i$ is a perfectly defined mathematical object.
 
@BalarkaSen: You can still plot it somehow.
 
Therefore, I draw nothing.
 
9:58 AM
@Nick That's where $\Bbb C$ comes to play.
You can't plot it in $\Bbb R$
 
Even there, what if we want to draw nothing.
 
Which one do you want? Be explicit.
@Nick You can't.
 
if you draw nothing, you have not drawn a graph
 
Unless you redefine domains of the functions.
 
Take the union of all known sets! Name a function that plots a single point?
 
10:00 AM
try it on your next math test, leave the question blank and see how many marks you get
 
For example, if you define functions to be from Hamiltonian quaternions to Hamiltonian quaternions, $f(x) = j$ is nothing on $\Bbb C$
It depends on the domain and the restriction of the domain.
 
6 mins ago, by Ice Boy
The graph of a number is the point on a number line that is paired with the number.
 
@N3buchadnezzar: $$-2.35619 \approx -\ln 10.5507$$
 
@BalarkaSen Doing that without special functions $$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} (-1)^{n+1} \frac{H_{n+1}^2}{n+2}-\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{n+2}\left(1+\frac{1}{2^2}+\cdots +\frac{1}{(n+1)^2}\right)=\frac{1}{3}\log^3(2)$$
@BalarkaSen You like these questions as far as I know.
 
10:08 AM
@Chris'ssis Weird.
 
@IceBoy: There is such a thing as negative marks. By not attempting a question that I could get wrong, I score relatively more than if I had tried.
 
@BalarkaSen I created it this morning.
 
@Chris'ssis It's very easy by generating functions but I am not at all sure how to do it without special functions.
 
@BalarkaSen OK
 
@Nick By "negative marks" do you mean that marks will be taken off your next test score?
 
10:11 AM
@Chris'ssis You need the identity $$H_n^2 - H_n^{(2)} = \frac{2}{n!} \left [ n + 1 \atop 3 \right ]$$ if you want to start with generating functions.
 
@IceBoy: If my total is below zero, yes. I'd have to compensate. (This is not in school by the way. Just at the coaching center I go to.)
 
@Nick that is inhumane
 
@BalarkaSen Yeap. I want something elementary (with no use of special functions) ...
 
@IceBoy: No, that is India.
 
@Chris'ssis Yes, I get it. You'd get involved with Li while proceeding with this identity.
No idea.
 
10:14 AM
@BalarkaSen True. That's why I mentioned that.
 
@Nick any sort of effort should be looked at in a positive way
the lowest should be 0
 
@IceBoy: On another note, geometrically, what do you mean by $\sinh(x)$
 
@Nick I like to think of the exponential definition.
 
@IceBoy: I remember a test in which 0 was the highest!
 
@Nick OMG! :-O
 
10:16 AM
@BalarkaSen: That's all I can think of. I can't take a unit circle and point out what sinh(x) is though.
 
@Nick If you think $\Bbb C$, you can though.
$\sinh(ix) = i\sin(x)$
 
@BalarkaSen: Oooh. I like your imagination. (pun intended)
 
@Nick I guess it does have the advantage of introducing students to the negative numbers in a very real and practical way.
But there are better ways, in my opinion.
 
@IceBoy: Those scores actually don't matter, btw. My peers take it very lightly. Hence, the majority of negative scores.
 
yes, I can see why
negative numbers are difficult to explain to young students
 
10:21 AM
@Nick Heh.
@IceBoy Not to mention imaginary numbers.
 
if you think about it they are difficult to explain to anyone: show me -2 apples
I can show you 2 apples
 
negative numbers don't have a good physical explanation
90% of math doesn't, actually
 
they do if you are freezing in the arctic at -40 degrees
 
the negativity numbers can jsut be thought to represent a deficit ( with respect to anything, the 0 on the real axis, the 0 net worh on your account )
negativity of numbers*
and imaginary numbers are really intuitive also
and easy to explain to a child if one have the intuition
one has *
imaginary numbers introduce numbers in the second dimension ( which is necessary to get a number that when multiplied by 1 two times gives -1 )
so we actually need one stop in the 90º to actually go from 1 to -1 in two steps
i is right there in that 90º stop
 
intuition is what you gain with experience, we are talking about the "first time" you see these strange things
 
10:27 AM
im telling you they are not strange
they are completley intuitive
 
@nerdy you won't find it that easy when you really explain it face-to-face to a 3rd grader.
=P
 
if you explain in summary
like im doing here
for you guys who are not in 3rd grader prob
but if u elaborate a bit on it
the idea is pretty simple
even a 3rd grade can easily understand
 
idea is of course simple. but have you tried explaining anyone lately?
 
because you have seen them before
 
yes, i did explain it to my cousin
which is 9
and he fully understood it
 
10:29 AM
@nerdy exception.
 
no, way of explaining
 
most people just throws the whole idea away
 
most highschool teachers dont have the intuition for imaginary numbers
so they cant explain intutively and easily
look how simple it is
rly good and intuitive explanation
u wont find them strange after that
but totally natural
 
@nerdy No, no, imaginary numbers are complicated. For example, the first thing one would imagine after knowing that $\sqrt{-1}$ is not a "number" (i.e., not real) is whether there are other such phenomenon of having an operator act on a number (including $\sqrt{-1}$, i.e., complex numbers) and not giving out a "number".
^ that might be an elementary question, but there is hardly an elementary answer
 
yes, thats because one had understood what it means to be a squareroot of another numbber
in a limited version
in a world where numbers could only lie in one dimension
 
10:32 AM
@nerdy I mean can you explain to a student that there is no other "dimension"? You can't.
 
@nerdy thanks for the link :-)
+1
 
I've faced this question before from 5th graders and had to tell them that this is highly nonelementary to prove. It's called the fundumental theorem of algebra : $\Bbb C$ is algebraically closed.
 
balarka sen , you don't need to explain that theres no other dimension to explain what imaginary numbers really are for a 3rd grader
the essence of it
obviously not rigorously
but in a way that makes it not strange
 
@nerdy a real student will ask whether there are other dimension after getting introduced to this concept
i know, i have explained it to them.
 
and, and the real student will have no problem digging deeper into that
but at least you made it possible for him to view imaginary numbers not as a strange entity
 
10:36 AM
@nerdy you mean that a 5th grader can understand complex analysis or galois theory!
 
i didnt say imediately after
even if doesnt fully understand rigorously wether there are other dimensions or not , you will still have introduced imaginary numbers in a natural fashion, making it seem not really strange
IceBoy, no problem.. also check the other articles
some of them are nice
 
good stuff
 
11:04 AM
@robjohn
**My best proof**

By the **Cauchy product**, we have that
$$\underbrace{\left(\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}H_{n+1} x^n\right)\cdot \left(\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{x^n}{n+1}\right)}_{\displaystyle \frac{\log^2(1-x)}{x^2(1-x)}}=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\sum_{k=0}^{n} \frac{H_{k+1}}{n-k+1} x^n$$
Rewriting $\displaystyle \frac{\log^2(1-x)}{x^2(1-x)}$ as a **Cauchy product**, we have that
$$\underbrace{\frac{1}{x^3}\left(2\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{H_{n}}{n+1} x^{n+1}\right)\cdot \left(\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}x^{n+1}\right)}_{\displaystyle \frac{\log^2(1-x)}{x^2(1-x)}}=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} 2\sum_{k=0}^{n}\frac{H_{k}}{k
 
@Chris'ssis Hadn't thought about that since you asked. I'll have to look at this in a bit.
 
@robjohn I also posted it on main yesterday.
 
@Chris'ssis the question was on main?
 
@robjohn Yeap.
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Q: Another way of expressing $\sum_{k=0}^{n} \frac{H_{k+1}}{n-k+1}$

Chris's sisDo you know any nice way of expressing $$\sum_{k=0}^{n} \frac{H_{k+1}}{n-k+1}$$ ? Some simple manipulations involving the integrals lead to an expression that also uses the hypergeometric series. Is there any way of getting a form that doesn't use the HG function?

@robjohn I didn't know at that time if it's a known series, so I had to find somehow ...
 
 
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12:34 PM
hello how are you
 
 
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2:05 PM
@Vrouvrou I am so glad you did not come in and ping everyone to help you with a question.
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Hey everyone, I want to ask you about the Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem. My little research tells me the following is true. Could you confirm this?

The Gödel's Incompleteness theorem applies if and only if the logical system is effective (understandable and followable by a computer) and proves/contains as axioms the axioms shown by the Robinson Arithmetic (RA).
 
@mathh I think you will have a better response if you asked on the main site.
 
2:23 PM
@WillHunting I'll wait a bit before the question gets buried under the chat. Someone here might be able to answer the question before that.
 
effective is not quite that strong (it just means the axioms are recursively enumerable, i.e., you could write a finite program such that a computer could read it and then output the axioms - but this program doesn't need to terminate)
 
@r9m did you start working on
$$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} (-1)^{n+1} \frac{H_{n+1}^2}{n+2}-\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{n+2}\left(1+\frac{1}{2^2}+\cdots +\frac{1}{(n+1)^2}\right)=\frac{1}{3}\log^3(2)$$? :D
 
and it's not quite that it contains the axioms of arithmetic (dunno what RA is; I only know the proof as applied to Peano arithmetic), but rather that one can define in the language the appropriate symbols, and then the appropriate axioms as pertains to these symbols, @mathh
that's what's meant by being capable of expressing PA
 
2:38 PM
@MikeMiller I'm not sure what you mean. Do you have in mind that the logical system simply has to represent, not necessarily directly, the axioms of arithmetic? If so, then well we can take the axioms of arithmetic to thus be our theorems the system has proved, albeit indirectly, but I really don't understand what you have in mind.
 
2:52 PM
@mathh e.g., one needs to be able to define the naturals, a successor function, and 0; these do not need to be in the symbols of your theory, and then prove the axioms of peano (robinson?) arithmetic for these symbols. as an example of defining something not in the structure itself, consider the reals with their field axioms. we still can define $x \geq 0$: define $x \geq 0$ iff $\exists v$ such that $v \cdot v = a$, and by addition can extend this to a $\leq$ relation defined on the reals
I'm probably a bad person to explain things coherently but I learned this all from Enderton's book back when I knew it
for a stupid example, imagine your axioms were precisely the peano axioms, but instead of 0 you had $7$, and instead of the successor function you had the retriever function. it's just the same axioms, but with the objects renamed; but it's not precisely peano arithmetic, and one needs to interpret peano arithmetic (in a trivial way: $0 := 7$, $S := R$, etc)
 
@MikeMiller This still makes me think your point is that you need not have the axioms as theorems/axioms in our logical systems directly and in the exact same symbols used by the RA, you only need to have them true in some, not necessarily direct (could be indirect), sense. In which case my other comment says everything.
 
somehow I completely missed the latter half of your comment and babbled instead of just saying "yes, that's it"
it's essentially a pedantic point but hey, you're doing logic
 
@MikeMiller If the axioms are shown to be true or are taken as axioms, only in different symbols instead, they still are true, and I'm not negating this.

And I am not sure which words in my definition of 'effective' you weren't satisfied with. Please elaborate?
'not quite strong', you said. But understandable and followable doesn't look strong to me at all?
@MikeMiller
 
Sup.
I found a pretty cool song.
How's the preparation going, @topper?
@WillHunting, are you Jasper Loy?
 
3:08 PM
yes
 
@Chris'ssis I posted a long, but simple, answer. I don't think it duplicates any of the others.
 
Nice to see you online, @IceBoy!
How are you doing?
 
Fine thanks, how are you?
 
Happy that the weekend has arrived!
I finally get some time to have fun. ^_^
 
@Khallil Yes.
 
3:10 PM
@mathh If it is a question worth putting on main, it will get more exposure there, and it will give the people who help you some reputation for answering.
 
Why the recent changes of username, @IceBoy and @WillHunting?
 
@Khallil Just felt like it.
 
time for a change
 
I know how you feel!
It feels like I'm getting a chance to start again this month.
 
@mathh Well, those aren't precise. I interpreted what you said to be that it was finitely axiomatized for some reason, but still, "understandable and followable by a computer" is not a mathematical definition. Anyway, as robjohn said, you should post this on main - I'm the only one here who's responded and I'm clearly not the right person to help!
 
3:15 PM
Will said the same.
 
@Khallil There is a trick to change your username anytime, but I won't teach you here...
 
open an account on another network and change your name there?
 
I don't think I'll need it, @WillHunting. I am me and will forever remain myself.
^_^
 
@MikeMiller Yes, but there are some details involved that I won't elaborate.
 
@robjohn nice, but that step $3$ is not that simple. From step $(6)$ you're immediately done by summation by parts as well.
 
3:17 PM
@Chris'ssis it is a simple substitution...
 
@robjohn It's simple, but I don't know if I would have thought of it.
 
@Chris'ssis well, that is what the rest of the proof is trying to show. I wanted to make the steps small so that they are easy to follow. I could have done it in 4 lines with bigger steps.
 
@Chris'ssis Once you publish your book, make sure it is sold by amazon.com!
 
@WillHunting Why?
 
@Chris'ssis So that people can buy it easily and cheaply? For example, I buy all my books from amazon.com, lol. It has got the best price, shipping aside.
 
3:21 PM
@WillHunting Ah, I see. I'm not so experienced with these kind of data yet.
 
@WillHunting I like bookstores. There is only one bookstore left in my area. I like the net and all, but it has taken away some things that I like.
 
@robjohn Without amazon.com, I would never be able to get the books I want.
 
@WillHunting No libraries, schools, bookstores nearby? Of course, even the libraries at UCLA are being replaced by online repositories. >8(
 
@robjohn I think it's simpler than the rest of the proofs there.
 
@robjohn The only place with many math books is the university libraries which I don't have free access to, and even they do not have all the math books on amazon.com!
 
3:27 PM
@WillHunting why not pay for access?
 
@WillHunting Usually you can go and read books there. I know at UCLA, anyone can browse, but it takes a card to check things out.
@Chris'ssis I haven't looked closely at Jack's proof... It requires going to another page to see the whole thing, pretty much.
 
@robjohn The problem there is that one that isn't experienced enough understands nothing. Things are not detailed, but for me it was OK that way.
 
@WillHunting that way you can use the inter-library loan system too :-)
 
@Chris'ssis Ah, I will have to look at the other answer (but I like the simple steps :-)
 
@robjohn Did you see my answer?
 
3:33 PM
@Chris'ssis yes, I saw yours. It is a nice use of generating functions.
 
@robjohn Thanks.
 
@Khallil Hello! Preparation is over, I had the exam this morning. It went okay, despite some logistical challenges (got there at 8:50, they'd started at 8:30 despite advertising 9:00).
 
I hate it when that happens. I was on time to one of my exams two years ago, but the damn fools jumped the gun and started 10 minutes early. They insisted that I wouldn't get any time (that I should have gotten) because of my 'lateness'.
 
So that kind of threw me. And the function that I had to investigate had a couple of $e^2x$ terms in the numerator, and my notes didn't print properly, lots of blanks including the chain rule! So it's touch and go, and I'm frustrated because I'd have sailed through with more organized preparation, but if I should fail, it just means there are some courses I can't take (until I pass this, next opportunity in January)
 
I'm sure you did well, @topper!
 
3:41 PM
@Khallil I wasn't the only one, and we argued for more time. But it wasn't good for my focus, nor was being up all night. But again better preparation, and the excuses would have been irrelevant. Buck stops here
 
Mhm. I usually have the same problem. I procrastinate a lot.
If only I'd been procrastinating on here last year.
That would've been useful procrastination as opposed to watching YouTube videos and playing PlayStation. ^_^
 
Which reminds me... I'm very thankful to the people here for their help, encouragement and patience the last few days. Is there anything I can donate to to say thanks?
 
Do you finally have time to look at that summation question I gave you a while back, @topper?
 
@topper I think the best way to give back is to help people if they need help
 
@Khallil Don't be hard on yourself, we're all human
 
3:43 PM
Helping others is generally how I give back to MSE (and formerly, TSR).
 
@user101036 Problem is my level is really too low for that
 
It isn't, @topper!
 
@Chris'ssis why don't you add your answer? It is definitely different than the rest.
 
Okay, I'm going to shave and wake up properly, daytime sleeping is grim. See you soon!
 
See ya!
 
3:45 PM
@robjohn I'll add it to my book.
 
Hi @Robjohn
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Q: Relation between a function on $N$ sphere and a function on $(N-1)$-cell.

Rajesh DLet $S^N$ be a unit $N$-sphere. Let $f:S^N\to\mathbb{R}$ be a function. Let $\bf{\Sigma}$ be a unit $(N-1)$-cell, consider the function $g:S^N\to\bf{\Sigma}$ such that, for any $\hat{a}\in S^N$, $g(\hat{a}) = \hat{\theta} = [\theta_1,\theta_2,...\theta_i..\theta_{N-1}]$, where $$\theta_i = \frac...

 
@RajeshD what is an $N-1$ cell?
@topper don't sleep while shaving...
 
@robjohn Did you receive it?
 
@Chris'ssis yes
 
@robjohn OK :-)
 
3:51 PM
Hi @MarcGravell
 
When you begin a $\LaTeX$ document, what's the amsmath thing you insert at the beginning?
It's like \something{amsmath} or something like that.
 
@robjohn The last result is not just a random result, it is also one of the main bricks of my elementary evaluation (no use of special functions) of $\displaystyle \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} (-1)^{n+1}\frac{H_n^2}{n}$.
 
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