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12:00 AM
@MikeMiller You don't need it, but you can use it sensibly.
 
Yes, @DanielF, but I prefer my way. I know the way you're thinking of, and I'm going to call it smelly.
But sure.
 
@MikeMiller Why smelly?
 
Because I'm stubborn.
 
@MikeMiller Obstinate, even?
 
@Jorge: I attend school at FSU. My family livez in miami
*lives
 
12:03 AM
Perhaps.
@gotit--thanks You're welcome.
 
@DanielFischer Or am I wrong? :/
 
@evinda Right.
 
@DanielFischer Is it $x_k \in (\mathbb{Z}/p^k\mathbb{Z})^{\star}$ or $\overline{x_k} \in (\mathbb{Z}/p^k\mathbb{Z})^{\star}$ ?
 
@evinda Which one is the component of $x$?
 
In my notes, it is $\overline{x_k}$. But couldn't we also symbolize it like that $x=x=(\overline{x_k})=(x_1,x_2, \dots, )$ ?
 
12:10 AM
@user112495 Just to give a second approach here. If $f(z) = \sum a_n z^n$ is your function, Daniel was suggesting you look at $g(z) = f(z) - a_0 - a_1 z$.
Then $g(z)/z^2$ is again a holomorphic function. You should verify that, because of your hypothesis on $f$, $g(z)/z^2$ is a bounded entire function that goes to $0$ as $z \to \infty$...
 
@MikeMiller But then doesn't this give me $f(z)$ being quadratic, rather than linear?
 
You know more than just that $g/z^2$ is a bounded entire function.
 
evinin' all
 
@MikeMiller Oh, so by Liouville's theorem, must $g(z)/z^2=0$?
 
12:23 AM
Evening, @Alizter? :O
Morning!
 
@KhallilBenyattou mirning
 
Right, @user112495 - you know it's a constant, and you also know that it goes to 0 at infinity... and there's only one constant that goes to 0 as we go off to infinity.
 
@MikeMiller Thanks. Got it!
 
@DanielFischer So since $x_k \in (\mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z})^{\star}$ it implies that there is a $y_k \in \mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z}$ such that $xy=1$, right?
 
@evinda At the moment, we're only at $x_k y_k \equiv 1 \pmod{p^{k+1}}$, or $\overline{x_k}\cdot\overline{y_k} = \overline{1}\in \mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z}$. But we have that for all $k$, so it remains to see that $y = (\overline{y_0},\overline{y_1},\overline{y_3},\dotsc) \in \mathbb{Z}_p$.
 
12:39 AM
@DanielFischer So, is it better to write it like that: $x=(\overline{x_0}, \overline{x_1}, \overline{x_2}, \dots)$ or like that $x=(x_0, x_1,x_2, \dots)$ ? Alao, does it hold $y_k \in \mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z}$ or $y_k \in (\mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z})^{\star}$?

Also, why does it remain to see that $y = (\overline{y_0},\overline{y_1},\overline{y_3},\dotsc) \in \mathbb{Z}_p$ ?
 
@DanielF Can you tell me how to solve a nonlinear PDE?
 
@evinda How you write them is unimportant. What matters is that one somehow distinguishes between elements of $\mathbb{Z}$ and elements of $\mathbb{Z}/n\mathbb{Z}$ when using both. And I made an unfortunate choice above, since you used $x_k,y_k$ to denote elements of $\mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z}$ just before. So let's keep the simpler notation without overlines for the components of $x\in \mathbb{Z}_p$.
Since $y_k$ was chosen so that $x_k\cdot y_k = 1$ in $\mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z}$, it follows that $y_k \in (\mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z})^\ast$. But $(\mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z})^\ast\subset \mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z}$. And we need to check that the $y_k$ satisfy the compatibility relations to conclude that $y\in\mathbb{Z}_p$.
@MikeMiller Don't, just don't ;) No, sorry, I have fortunately forgotten what I once knew about nonlinear PDEs.
 
12:57 AM
That is precisely what I suspect I will spend the next $n$ months doing, @DanielF
 
@DanielFischer Why do we want to show that $y \in \mathbb{Z}_p$ ?
 
:)
@evinda To see that $x$ is invertible in $\mathbb{Z}_p$.
 
@DanielFischer We know that $x_{k+1}y_{k+1} \equiv x_ky_k \mod{p^{k+1}}$ and $x_ky_k \equiv 1 \mod{p^{k+1}}$. So, we conclude that $x_{k+1}y_{k+1} \equiv 1 \mod{p^{k+1}}$.
Which other relations could we use?
 
@evinda We need to see that $y_{k+1} \equiv y_k \pmod{p^{k+1}}$.
 
1:15 AM
@DanielFischer We have that $x_{k+1} y_{k+1} \equiv 1 \mod{p^{k+2}} \Rightarrow x_{k+1}y_{k+1} \equiv 1 \mod{p^{k+1}} (*)$

$x_{k+1} \equiv x_k \mod{p^{k+1}}$

$(*) \Rightarrow x_ky_{k+1} \equiv 1 \mod{p^{k+1}}$

Can we conclude from this that $y_{k+1} \equiv y_k \pmod{p^{k+1}}$ ?
 
@evinda We can. For we also have $x_k y_k \equiv 1 \pmod{p^{k+1}}$, so $x_k y_{k+1} \equiv x_k y_k \pmod{p^{k+1}}$, and hence $x_k(y_{k+1} - y_k) \equiv 0 \pmod{p^{k+1}}$.
 
@DanielFischer I see :) But why have shown in that way that $y \in \mathbb{Z}_p$? We have shown that $y_{k+1} \equiv y_k \mod{p^{k+1}}, \forall k \in \mathbb{N}$, right?
But doesn't it need to hold also that $y_k \in \mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z}$ ?
 
@evinda Have we already shown that $y_{k+1} \equiv y_k \pmod{p^{k+1}}$? Or is there still a little to do? Concerning the latter, we have $y_k \in \mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z}$ by construction.
 
@DanielFischer I thought so, because $x_k(y_{k+1} - y_k) \equiv 0\pmod{p^{k+1}}$ and since $x_k \in (\mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z})^{\star}$, it has to hold that $y_{k+1} - y_k \equiv 0 \mod{p^{k+1}}$... :/
@DanielFischer From which relation do we have that $y_k \in \mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z}$?
 
@evinda Right. That's the argument.
 
1:30 AM
@DanielFischer And how do we conclude that $y \in \mathbb{Z}_p$ ?
 
@evinda No relation, we chose $y_k$ to be that element of $\mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z}$ such that $x_k\cdot y_k = 1$ in $\mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z}$.
@evinda That follows directly from $y_{k+1}\equiv y_k \pmod{p^{k+1}}$.
 
@DanielFischer So since it holds that $y_k \in \mathbb{Z}/p^{k+1}\mathbb{Z}$ and $y_{k+1}\equiv y_k \pmod{p^{k+1}}$ $\forall k \in \mathbb{N}$ we conclude that $y \in \mathbb{Z}_p$, right? :)
 
@DanielFischer And what do we conclude from that? :/
 
What was the goal?
 
1:37 AM
@DanielFischer To show that the units of $\mathbb{Z}_p$ are $\mathbb{Z}_p^{\star}=\mathbb{Z}_p \setminus p \mathbb{Z}_p$, i.e. the powerseries with constant term different from 0.
 
And, how is that related to what we did above?
 
@DanielFischer We took a $x \in p\mathbb{Z}_p$ and showed that it cannot be a unit... Then, we took a $x \in \mathbb{Z}_p \setminus p\mathbb{Z}_p$ and we showed that we can find a $y$ such that $xy=1$, so each element in $ \mathbb{Z}_p \setminus p\mathbb{Z}_p$ is a unit, right?
 
I have a question where I implementing a math formula in excel which is not producing the expected result, is such a question best asked on Mathematics forum or Stack Overflow?
 
I would think SO.
 
@MikeMiller Stack Overflow or Mathematics forum?
 
1:43 AM
@evinda Yes.
 
SO stands for Stack Overflow.
 
Thank you
 
@DanielFischer But have we also shown like that that the units are the powerseries mit constant term $\neq 0$ ?
 
@evinda Sort of. You just need to translate from the one representation to the other.
 
@DanielFischer How could we do this? :/
 
1:51 AM
@evinda If you know the two representations, that is practically immediate. If you don't, this is too late at night to explain.
 
@DanielFischer Isn't the other definition that if $x \in \mathbb{Z}_p$ then it can be written as a sum of powers of $p$: $\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_np^n, a_n \in \{0,1,2, \dots, p-1\}$ ?
 
@evinda Yes.
 
@DanielFischer What can we conclude for this definition of $\mathbb{Z}_p$ ?
 
oh, haha, I see how what I said wasn't clear
 
@KajHansen Do you give lectures at the university?
 
1:57 AM
@NodeExplosion I would suggest Super User, unless you are writing a VBA script.
Using the built-in functions in Excel is not considered programming, imo.
 
The description on SuperUser is horrendously vague.
 
@DanielFischer I have to sleep now... I will be on again tomorrow... Good night!!!! :-) And thanks for your help!!!!!
 
I usually look at the contents of the relevant tag. Sorted by newest, to get the idea of run-of-the-mill questions, not the outliers with megavotes.
 
Night all!
 
Hi. If f is continuous on the complex plane, and for each z, we have have f(z+2)=f(z) and |f(z)| <= exp(pi*|z|), then I want to show |f(z)| <= c*exp(pi*|Im z|) for some constant. Any suggestions on where to begin?
 
2:13 AM
@PhilipHoskins Both sides are 2-periodic. So you only need the estimate for Re z between -1 and 1. And there you have it already.
 
Behavior: Of course. I've got it. Thanks
 
@Behaviour I have already posted the question on SO. Can I change this? stackoverflow.com/questions/27698815/…
 
@NodeExplosion They will tell you if they think it's offtopic there.
 
@Behaviour: If you click on the unanswered tab and then select 'my tags', it sorts them by date. Do you know if there is a way to get them sorted by votes? You seem to know these sort of things.
 
@beha
@Behaviour Thanks
 
2:25 AM
@evinda, I've given a couple, but definitely not on a regular basis. I'm just an undergrad myself.
 
@MichaelAlbanese There is no way to sort them on that tab. In case of questions with 0 answers, you can search for answers:0 intags:mine to get a list that can be sorted in any way. For questions with un-upvoted answers one needs SEDE.
 
@Behaviour Excellent. I didn't know about the intags:mine option for searches. Thanks.
 
2:41 AM
Sorry if there is a better room for this, but what is the self-learning tag for? Do we really need it?
 
No, it's worthless.
 
Not totally ... Unless everyone lies.
 
@MichaelAlbanese It's [I-swear-this-is-not-homework]. Which is obsolete because there is no [homework] tag.
Propose its eradication on meta.
 
@Behaviour Oakie dokie.
 
The wiki says something about "learning strategies", but this is not at all how the tag is used.
 
2:52 AM
Is there a preexisting thread for this purpose?
 
lol'd @Behaviour
 
No, @MichaelA. Your thread will make a nice change to all the moderator threads lately.
 
 
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3:58 AM
 
4:19 AM
@Behaviour Do you agree with me that this question is on topic here?
 
4:29 AM
@MikeMiller I saw it. Did not vote on it. I guess it's in scope. I thought of referring the user to Computer Science, but they would likely close it as an abstract duplicate of this
 
4:47 AM
Not that that would be particularly bad. The abstract duplicate you link could certainly be used to answer their question.
 
So I picked up a reprint of the first edition of Coolidge's Treatise on Algebraic Plane Curves.
But there's some weird terminology in the very beginning, that I can't find used anywhere else, at least on the Internet.
"If the polynomial have an infinite root, that is to say, if the function $x^n f \left(\frac{1}{x}\right)$ have a root 0, then $a_0 = 0$ and conversely."
 
hi
 
Where $a_0$ is the first coefficient. Where does the terminology "infinite root" arise?
 
5:16 AM
What's $n$ here? What kind of polynomials are these?
 
5:40 AM
@Fargle: Sounds like he's doing projective geometry and talking about a root at infinity?
 
Oh sorry, $n$ is the degree
@TedShifrin Maybe so. I don't know--I think the book is far over my puny undergraduate head, at least for now.
@MikeMiller Just standard polynomial functions in a single variable.
 
Right. So this inverts the polynomial, so to speak. Wait: Is his $a_0$ the coefficient of $x^n$?
There are more modern books to read :)
 
@Ted I am still enjoying Warner. For once his exposition of something is good...
 
5:56 AM
He's not my favorite. You're reading the Hodge Theorem?
Wells does it all with pseudodifferential operators, and Warner does ad hoc stuff with Fourier series on the torus if I remember correctly.
 
I have a problem that says "prove that if F is any field with 4 elements, then every element of F satisfies x+x=0"
But Z/4 has 1+1=2
 
That's correct, @Ted. I've got some notes on SW equations I guess I'll read later that covers it, too.
 
@beginner, $\mathbb{Z}_4$ is not a field.
 
And Z/4 is isomorphic to all fields with 4 elements
Or I am confusing things
 
@beginner No. You're making a terrible mistake
 
5:59 AM
I'm assuming by Z/4, you mean the integers modulo 4?
 
Oh Z/4 doesn't have all inverses doh
 
Don't gang up on the poor kid!
 
cause it isn't coprime nooooo
Sorry!!
 
$\mathbb{Z}/n\mathbb{Z}$, assuming that's the notation your book is using, is a field only when $n$ is prime. Otherwise, it's just a ring.
 
Worse, $2\cdot 2=0$, @beginner
 
6:01 AM
Indeed. fields $\subset$ integral domains .
 
Huh?
 
There we go.
 
A commutative ring is a field right?
By definition I mean
 
No. Z/4 being a prime example.
 
almost smacks @Kaj
well, not prime!
 
6:02 AM
-_-
"a good example"
That's actually a good starting exercise @beginner. Assuming you've encountered the terminology, can you show that all finite integral domains are fields?
 
i don't know what integral domains are hehe
I wrote down on my book from somewhere exactly that "commutative ring == field"
So if that is wrong I blame my book for my confusion
 
That's definitely wrong. Take $\mathbb{Z}$ for example.
 
@beginner What's the definition of field?
 
I found the book, it is in the pdf for Cohn classic algebra page 36
 
@beginner I highly doubt it.
 
6:07 AM
Oh... you're reading Jasper's stuff.
 
Re-read it. A field is a commutative ring where every nonzero element is invertible.
 
I have 30 pdfs of books now hehe
 
@beginner, can you link me to the pdf if you have a link?
 
You are right Pedro... I thought that was in the brackets wooopss
No link sorry all downloaded to my mums tablet-pc
 
As a general rule of thumb, it is suspicious one would define a general class of objects and then rename them.
 
6:10 AM
What do you mean?
 
@beginner Well, the author defined what a ring was.
Then he says "let's call rings fields."
That's suspicious.
An altogether different matter is something like "Suppose A is a ring, and moreover suppose it has property X. Then it is a field." For example, Artinian commutative domains are fields.
 
Well they already do that sort of thing, 'semi-group + something = group, group+something = abelian group, group+ something = ring'
So I thought ring+commutativity = field was fine
 
these +s are all rather suspect
 
clearly a+b=c for all values of b and c
 
some of these are adding a property; group + is commutative = Abelian group
 
6:14 AM
I couldn't remember the names off the top of my head for some reason!!
 
and others are adding structure, like passing from group to ring
they're very different sorts of changes
 
Did Pedro become a mod?
I don't have a mouse but he looks blue
 
Ring + commutativity = commutative ring :P
 
We've already modded out by him.
 
Should be called an abelian ring, dammit!
 
6:15 AM
@KajHansen Don't be blasphemous now.
 
Jokes, jokes
My Norwegian heritage compels me to live up to Abel's greatness. Maybe one day...
 
If you had a mouse, @beginner, you'd see he was opaque and orange.
 
Although I am bad at algebra, it is really fun
 
Abel is almost in the Gauss realm, @Kaj
 
Just like me @beginner :D
 
6:17 AM
You are not kaj!
 
@Kaj, perhaps Abel was falsely modest?
 
So a field with n elements has characteristic n, since 1*n=0? Else it is characteristic 0 if this isn't possible? Why would this ever not be possible? If you don't have the element 1?
 
It's all relative. I look at some of the algebra quals out there and I'm definitely humbled. Ultimately I guess what matters is that we are constantly improving.
I'm actually curious why they say "characteristic 0" and not "characteristic $\infty$"
 
cause infinity isn't a number! I don't really know though hehe
 
@KajHansen the characteristic generates the kernel of the unique unital ring map Z->R
 
6:21 AM
No, @beginner. A field with 4 elements has characteristic 2.
 
Thanks @anon! I'd never thought about it in that light before.
@beginner. As a rule of thumb, your characteristic is always $0$ or prime when it comes to fields.
 
so you mean to say that your characteristic is always prime? :)
 
7:01 AM
@MichaelAlbanese For a couple of those questions, a compilation of comments made a decent CW answer. Consider this as one of the options, when comments are of value. A closed question with no answers may well be deleted -- either by user votes, or through an expanded auto-deletion process that SE might implement in the future.
 
7:21 AM
@Behaviour: Could you give me an example? I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to.
 
I suppose for the first one, my motivation to close was the question itself which I think is fairly broad; do you disagree? However, this does not take into account the useful contributions made in the comments.
 
On one hand yes, it's too broad. But the threat of "too many possible answers" has not materialized. And while it'd be good to narrow the question down, the OP is long gone, so we are left with what's there.
 
So what is the reason for not closing if the question (in its current state) wont get a decent answer? (Not debating the issue, just want to clarify)
 
7:58 AM
@MichaelAlbanese There isn't an argument against closing, except the extra time spent reviewing and voting; compare to posting a CW answer (5 user actions vs 1). A matter of convenience mostly.
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in Mathematics Meta, 1 min ago, by Behaviour
Pardon the interruption, but what is this room for, again?
 
8:21 AM
@KajHansen abel is a great man
but galois is greater
 
8:48 AM
Hi. I want to install MathJax on my website. I have read that there are two possible ways to do this. The first uses the CDN and the second is manually installed the files onto my server. Which method is best and why?
 
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9:11 AM
@kaj @mike thank you!(sorry my dad made me hop off)
@mike characteristic 2 since x+x=0 makes sense
What are the elements of the field with 4 elements?
@gust help please
 
@beginner Hey, where is help required?
 
@gust I wanted to know what the elements were for a field with only 4
 
I'm afraid I do not understand your question.
 
What are the elements of the field with only 4 elements?
like Z/4 has $\{0,1,2,3\}$
 
it's an extension of the field of two elements. use polynomials.
or, let x be any element of the field which is neither 0 nor 1, and go from there
 
9:28 AM
Sorry, I don't think I can help you there.
 
So use the field axioms to find them?
 
do things
 
This is abstract algebra, correct?
 
yes
 
it is classic algebra
 
9:30 AM
a major problem students seem to have is that if they don't know what to do they simply don't do anything at all, as if you don't have permission to do anything unless you know what needs to be done first. this is the wrong mindset, students aren't just workers, they can be explorers, albeit with guidance.
 
Ok I will explore!
Let me put on my mining hat
2
 
Haha
"Damn where did I put that thing"
 
I found it
Now I can study in the garage
 
What is $\mathbb{Z}/4$, @beginner?
 
A 4 element ring
But it isn't a field that is what I thought the first time :(
 
9:38 AM
A field is a group closed under addition and multiplication, right @beginner?
 
It is a totally inversible commutative ring
 
Ah, I need to go over this stuff. It's been a while since I've looked at any Algebra.
 
But 2 mod 4 isn't invertible due to non-coprimality
I made the same mistake a few hours ago hehe
 
9:52 AM
@ted how many people do you know here and have met in person?
 
Huy
@KhallilBenyattou: Did you have algebra already or just linear algebra?
 
I had Abstract Algebra and Linear Algebra is starting very soon, @Huy!
 
Huy
Okay, at our uni it's usually taught the other way around.
 
Hi huy!
 
Huy
Hi @beginner
 
9:58 AM
What was your favourite of math again, I forgot - don't say football
 
Huy
@beginner: define favourite
 
Not this again
Learning math didn't make you forget how to socialise !!
 
The area from which you derive the most enjoyment, @Huy. ^_^
 
He does this every time we talk @khal
But he is quite a fun guy
 
I gathered that much when you said "Not this again". =P
 
9:59 AM
Quite a fun huy
 
Hahahahahaha!
 
:)
 
Huy
I had quite some fun with complex analysis and quantum mechanics
and just got wrecked in hearthstone =_=
 
@huy come back
What do you do in QM?
 
Huy
useful stuff
 
10:03 AM
What do you learn?
 
Huy
Quantum mechanics (QM; also known as quantum physics, or quantum theory) is a fundamental branch of physics which deals with physical phenomena at nanoscopic scales, where the action is on the order of the Planck constant.
 
Was it math orientated or did you do it from the non-math theory side of things?
 
Huy
Both
 
Are you playing a game while talking? Is that why it feels like I am taking to a robot?
 
Huy
Yes and no
 
10:08 AM
Meaning it is making it more apparent, but I would have that regardless?
 
Huy
I don't understand your question
 
Meaning playing a game is making you more robotic, but you would talk robotically regardless?
 
Huy
I don't talk robotically, I just answer your questions rather undetailled
 
I know, it feels robotic and antisocial
 
Huy
sorry about that
 
10:10 AM
Are you English native?
 
Huy
no
 
crl
@JasperLoy no, this is still possible even if I'm 29, but I think I will more work as a programmer in the future
 
That is probably why, what language are you native to?
 
Huy
German, I'd say
 
You're not sure??
 
crl
10:12 AM
mixed origins maybe
 
Huy
I usually write German on forms
 
Since you know physics stuff @huy, what do fermions have half-integer spin? How does such a pefect spin happen?
 
Huy
@beginner: I don't know much about physics
 
ok
 
Huy
also, do you know what spin is?
 
10:16 AM
It is to do with ground state energy
I know that it is used in categorising bosons and fermiond
 
Huy
how does it have to do with ground state energy?
 
crl
@JasperLoy and you? are you applying for next summer.
 
Through supergravity theory right??
 
Huy
I don't know supergravity theory
 
Oh then spin is just about how the partical appears from different directions
 
Huy
10:20 AM
are you sure?
 
Yes
 
Huy
what do you mean by appear?
 
If it only looks the same after a total rotation it has spin 1
So does that mean it is a symmetry property?
 
Huy
where did you learn that interpretation of spin?
 
Explanation from my dads friend awhile ago who is physicist researcher
He said that spin is to do with the number of fractional rotations that appear the same as the starting form
But then I don't know what a half integer spin means or why such perfect numbers come up
 
Huy
10:33 AM
@beginner: You should ask your dad's friend then, he seems to know this stuff
 
He has only come over twice in years :(
 
Huy
I'm sorry about that
 
If $\left( \left| a_n \right| \right)$ is a Cauchy sequence then $\left( a_n \right)$ is bounded.
I'm thinking of starting off by saying that a sequence has the Cauchy property if and only if it's convergent.
 
Anonymous
Hello!
 
$\left( \left| a_n \right| \right) \to a$ if for each $\epsilon > 0, \ \exists N \in \mathbb{N}$ s.t. $\left| |a_n| - a \right| < \epsilon$ for all $n > N$.
Hey, @Ashwin!
 
10:42 AM
@TedShifrin That linear algebra exercise was surprisingly slick
 
Huy
What LA exercise, @LeGrandDodom?
 
Anonymous
How do I deactivate my account?
 
Anonymous
I never found the "Deactivate the Account" option.
 
Anonymous
I do not want to delete it,but deactivate it or ban it,whatever!
 
Huy
10:54 AM
That doesn't make any sense.
 
Anonymous
@Huy You play GTA SA?
 
Huy
Not anymore, @Ashwin.
 
Anonymous
@Huy Have you played SAMP(Multiplayer)?
 
Huy
No.
 
Hi'
 
11:09 AM
Hey, @beginner. ^_^
 
What is your information @kha I can't click you, were you the 14 year old Indian student? Or the 17 year old student?
Or we have never talked except before
 
Neither. =P
We have spoken, but only briefly!
 
Oh ok, tell me about yourself
 
Ok
 
11:12 AM
Instead, you can read my Wiki page.
@beginner =P
 
I am not allowed TV stuff like that hehe
What do you study Khalil and what grade are you in
 
I study math and I have no idea about grades. I'm an undergrad. How about you, @beginner?
Also, why is that you're not allowed to see 'TV stuff'?
 
11:29 AM
You are not missing anything with TV
 
I am in grade 7 next year and my parents banned me
 
Agreed.
You'll thank them for it later.
TV is monumentally boring. Most people I know have grown out of it.
Isn't grade 7 quite young, @beginner?
 
I'm 11 but if anyone asks I am 13
I'll be 12 in 5 months and a bit :)
 
Why'd you prefer to be know as a 13 year old as opposed to 11, @beginner?
 
My internet always cuts out when I am in the garage hiding. So when it goes quiet I can't tell if it is the internet or you guys
Apparently I will be banned for being too young cause of American law even though I am not in America
 
11:40 AM
Oh, that sucks. You wouldn't want to be defying the law though.
Anyhow, I've got to go. See ya later!
Later, @Alizter! ^_^
 
bye @KhallilBenyattou
 
cya @kha
 
@Behaviour I finally asked it.
 
Hi @Alizter
 
11:56 AM
@BalarkaSen Wasup
 
@Mike so what we'd have to prove is that given CW complexes $X = \{D_i, f_i\}$ and $Y = \{D_i, g_i\}$, the CW complex obtained from $\{D_i \times D_j, f_i \times f_j\}$ is precisely $X \times Y$, with the topology and all.
looks scary.
@Alizter Mike says the nonsense stuff you did on $S^3$ is equivalent to the Hopf fibration.
now idea how that's true.
:P
can you recite me what you did? I'll try to figure out.
 
The filling of $S^3$ with disjoint congruent circles is called a Hopf fibration
 
@Alizter That's not the definition.
 
but it is a definition I guess
maybe prove that the two definitions are the same then the rest is easy
 
My definition of a Hopf fibration is a fiber bundle $S^3 \to S^2$ with fibers $S^1$.
yeah i can't see how these two are equivalent
but let's think.
@Alizter the actual problem (roughly) is to produce a map from $S^3 \stackrel{p}{\to} S^2$ such that for any point in $S^2$, there is a neighborhood $U$ around it such that $p^{-1}(U)$ (the fibers) look like $S^1 \times S^2$.
in less rigorous terms, you have to find a way to stick a circle at each point of a sphere such that locally it looks like S^1 cross S^2 but globally S^3.
 
12:08 PM
hmmmm
I can stick circles into S^4 so that it fills it.
 
i am not sure about the geometric picture you have in mind @Alizter
can you elaborate?
 
Well, a trivial lower dimensional example is that S^0 can fill S^3
 
what is your definition of "fill"?
 
meh not awake fully yet
 
take your time
i am interested in what you have to say
 
ADG
12:17 PM
what does parity mean, plz help me?
 
Huy
12:36 PM
@ADG: It means whether a number is odd or even.
 
@MikeMiller I guess it's easy if $X$ and $Y$ has finite number of cells.
Eh, I am not sure.
 
Heya @Balarka @Huy
 
Hi.
 
Huy
hi
 
I am totally confus about this problem.
 
Huy
12:45 PM
sorry about that balarka
 
1:14 PM
Does anyone know whom the bound $p_n<n\left(\log n+\log \log n\right)$ is due to?
 
1:38 PM
Hi
 
Huy
@VincenzoOliva: I answered your actual question.
 
@Huy Yes, thank you too, I upvoted you.
 
@crl No, and I don't know when I will be well enough to apply, so I am very sad.
 

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