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3:05 PM
@Moses $[0,1]$ is connected. Let's say $f(0) = k$. Then $f^{-1}(k)$ is closed, and $f^{-1}(k)$ is also open, hence by connectedness $f^{-1}(k) = [0,1]$. Before the language of connectedness is established, that is usually dressed up in the way of "Let $a = \sup \{ x\in [0,1] : f(y) = f(0) \text{ for all } 0 \leqslant y \leqslant x\}$. Then $f(a) = f(0)$ by continuity, and there is a $\delta > 0$ such that $\lvert b-a\rvert < \delta \implies \lvert f(b)-f(a)\rvert < \frac{1}{2}$, hence ...
... $f(b) = f(a)$ for $\lvert b - a\rvert < \delta$. But if we had $a < 1$, then we'd have a contradiction to the definition of $a$, hence $a = 1$ and $f$ is constant."
 
I got a weird question. How come most of the high reps at TeX.SE don't participate in MSE or MO?
Why do they learn so much about LaTeX if they can't apply it
 
a) one can use TeX in more contexts than math b) even if they do use it in a math context, just because they like to help with TeX stuff doesn't mean they like to help with math stuff
 
I was in awe by one of their codes for Horner's scheme. Is it possible on mathjax?
 
Thanks @DanielFischer
 
3:22 PM
@Integrator They are guidelines for being welcome in this room. They are reasonable guidelines, so I would say that not observing them would be willful annoyance, and people will probably complain and the room owner or mods may ban you from chat either temporarily or permanently depending on how bad the behavior is. Minor inadvertent infractions will usually be overlooked.
@Integrator when someone asks "what happens if I disobey the rules", it indicates that they are considering not following them. This tends to indicate problematic behavior.
 
I'm not a rat or anything but I think guideline #2 doesn't render properly in Integrator's browser.
 
@Integrator oops!?
 
Anyway cya all, got class
 
oops
 
@DanielFischer Out of interest do you maybe know of a function which satisfies what I described but is nowhere differentiable? I'm thinking that it obviously not feasible to consider another solution using the Mean Value Theorem?
 
3:28 PM
@UserX perhaps they hadn't seen the guidelines before (it's a possibility).
 
@Moses A function that satisfies what, precisely?
 
@MikeMiller Uniformly continuous on interval $[0,1]$.
 
What Mike said. Hello @MikeMiller.
@Moses Weierstraß function.
 
What is your best estimate for $\ln 1356$ purely by hand? =)
 
@Moses Uniform continuity on a compact set is just continuity, so it just suffices to find a continuous nowhere-differentiable function. And Daniel just said the standard example.
 
3:33 PM
Roughly $7.21$, @N3buchadnezzar.
Not too bad: $7.212294468500341$
 
@DanielFischer How? =)
 
@N3buchadnezzar He memorized all the logs up to 1384.
 
I did $\log 1356 = 2 \log 2 + \log 3 + \log 113$
 
Keeeeel Thanks
 
@N3buchadnezzar $1296 = 6^4$, that gives $4\cdot \ln 6 \approx 4(0.693... + 1.0986) \approx 4(1.79...)$.
Then $1356 \approx (1.06 - \varepsilon)\cdot 1296$
So $\ln 1356 \approx 0.05 + \ln 1296$
 
3:38 PM
@N3buchadnezzar Here's another approx. $$\ln 1356 \approx 2\ln 2 + \ln 3 + \overbrace{\ln 2 + \ln 5 + \ln 11}^{\ln 110}$$
$\implies \ln 1356 \approx \ln 1320 \approx 7.18..$
Not as good as @Dan but hey atleast I did it :D
 
@Nick Should be $\ln 113$ no?
 
@N3buchadnezzar Yup, I rounded there to the nearest ten. It's highschool cheating. Deadly for math, crazy good for physics.
 
@Nick But $\log 113 \sim +1/2\ln114 + 1/2\ln112$ for crazy good accurazy
 
O_O
well, that's fun.
lol
 
I'm having trouble determining ds and the bounds for this problem
> Integrate $\int_C (x^{3}+y^{3}) dy$ where C is the curve consisting of two edges of the rectangle in the first quadrant having opposite vertices at the origin and the point (6, 5), where the first edge traversed starts at the origin and is horizontal.
any pointers on where to start?
 
3:49 PM
@N3buchadnezzar But $114 = 2 \times 57$
Should I use $\frac{1}{2}(56 + 58)$ !
My god, you have made an excellent method!
@N3buchadnezzar: 1000 praises to you, master. Another million more for that Cookbook that helped me ace an exam :D
Whoops, $114 = 2 \times 3 \times 19$. I can now use $\frac{1}{2}(18 + 20)$
 
@Nick :p
@Nick You... Actually like it? :p
 
@N3buchadnezzar No, ofcourse I don't like it.
I LOVE IT!!!!! VERY VERY VERY VERY MUCH
 
@Nick YEAH
 
I did not read that as sincere lol
 
@Nick which parts? (I am going to work on it during my winter break, eg improving translating etc)
 
4:02 PM
:O you're gonna translate it to English?
 
Starting on it atleast :p I know english fairly well, and it was a cointoss if it should be in english or norse.
 
:D))
 
@N3buchadnezzar: I've barely finished the first 20 pages but you've really made me take a dive into the uncomfortable waters of integrals. I can't wait till my bath is over and I'm out of the shower as shiny and squeeky clean like a rubber ducky integral.
 
20 pages is good =)
@Nick $$ \int x \cdot \frac{\log(1+x^2)}{1+x^2}\,\mathrm{d}x $$
This is a fun and easy! (really) one =)
 
Can a 10k tell me what led to this question being deleted?
 
4:08 PM
not yet, but a < 1k can star it :-)
@Integrator hi pal
 
@N3buchadnezzar That's just an easy substitution, $t = \log(1+x^2)$
 
@Nick Indeed. Try to do it by parts, choosing $x/(1+x^2) = v$.
 
You get $\frac{1}{4}(\log^2(x^2 + 1))$
lol
 
@Nick y
 
Can someone see where I'm going wrong?
> $\mathbf{F} = \left<x,y\right>$ and the curve is $\mathbf{r}(t) = \langle \cos(t), \sin(t) \rangle$ for $t$ in $[0, 2\pi]$. Find the flux.
So I have $\int_{0}^{2\pi} (\cos(t)(-\sin(t)) + \sin(t)\cos(t))dt$
 
4:13 PM
@N3buchadnezzar I get $\frac{1}{2}\int t \mathrm dt$
 
@Nick With parts?
 
@N3buchadnezzar No, I'll try tht now.
$$\log(1+x^2)\int\frac{x \mathrm dx}{1+x^2} - \int \frac{1}{2x} \left(\int \frac{x\, \mathrm dx}{1+x^2}\right)\, \mathrm dx$$
Whoops, $u' = \frac{2x}{1+x^2}$
 
@Nick So $v = \fra{1}{2}\log(1+x^2)$ and $v' = \frac{x}{1+x^2}$ =)
 
Yeah, $2v' = u'$
@N3buchadnezzar Apparently typing math is very much more difficult than doing it.
 
4:25 PM
Wednesday Thursday Friday!
 
@MikeMiller Three votes to delete by 20k+ users. As for their reasons to vote that way, I could only guess. Probably along the lines of " A nonsensical question. Should be closed. But the bounty prevents it being closed. A pretty sneaky strategy! – GEdgar Nov 25 '12 at 1:30" and " This question is pretty much a deepity. – Michael Greinecker♦ Nov 26 '12 at 16:30".
 
@Nick A couple of similar integrals evaluated using parts.
 
@DanielFischer Someone later reposted it and their answers. I don't at all understand why that's ok if the original was deleted.
@DanielFischer you might be amused by the comments here (and the question itself, too)
 
@N3buchadnezzar Ohk, I got it. I made an error which gave me an integral to ponder about.
 
can no one help with my flux problem?
 
4:34 PM
@Nick ^^
 
@MikeMiller I doubt it is okay. He should have rather made a case for undeletion in the meta thread if he thinks it shouldn't have been deleted.
 
Hi everybody! I have a few question: what kind of method i need to use? Example
 
@N3buchadnezzar $$\int \frac{\mathrm dx}{x\log x } \equiv \log (\log x) \mod \Bbb R $$
 
@Nick :p
 
@DanielFischer Here's the post i'm referring to.
 
4:37 PM
@N3buchadnezzar: I pondered about it because I tried using by parts on it. You try it out.
 
@MikeMiller I know. I knew expected it was Gerry immediately and looked at his profile.
 
@N3buchadnezzar Secondly, would you disapprove of the way I'm hiding $+C$
 
@Nick $\displaystyle \int \frac{1}{\log x} - \frac{1}{\log^2x}\,\mathrm{d}x$
 
I saw a question yesterday which was interesting, and now I can't find it. As I recall, it went like this: let $H$ be a complex Hilbert space, let $T_n$ be a sequence of bounded self-adjoint operators with $T_{n+1} \ge T_n$ (in the sense that $T_{n+1}-T_n$ is positive semidefinite) and suppose $\sup_n \|T_n\| < \infty$. Show that $T_n$ converges strongly to a bounded self-adjoint operator $T$.
 
@NateEldredge I think I commented on that, let me take a look.
 
4:39 PM
It is related to math.stackexchange.com/questions/1007208/… but not the same. I am sure it was posted or at least bumped on Nov 9 or Nov 8. Maybe it was deleted but I can't find it in deleted questions either.
 
Wow, that's true?
 
@MikeMiller: I think so but I haven't quite finished the proof.
 
@N3buchadnezzar Ok that's harder. I haven't gotten it by hand either. Hint please.
 
@Nick Parts
 
@DanielFischer: I think you commented on math.stackexchange.com/questions/1007208/… which is not quite the one I remember (and a few days too old). I searched for "self adjoint" and looked at the and tags without success.
 
4:44 PM
@NateEldredge Yes, that's the one I thought of. Similar, but not quite the same indeed.
 
Someone could ask the question again for you.
 
@NateEldredge By "converges strongly", is the SOT meant, or norm convergence?
 
@Nick Use parts on $1/\log x$
 
@robjohn that oops was just because I thought those are $\LaTeX$ guidelines!!
 
@N3buchadnezzar $\frac{x}{\log x}$ yay!
 
4:46 PM
@ronjohn No, I was just being curious about what would happen! Not willing to be a part of it!
 
@DanielFischer: SOT. It's definitely not true for norm convergence (consider $T_n$ being orthogonal projection onto the span of $\{e_1, \dots, e_n\}$).
 
@N3buchadnezzar I didn't think of obvious things.
 
@NateEldredge here, deleted by OP.
 
@robjohn I've seen guidelines now, I can only hope that I'll follow them!
 
@Nick ? :p
 
4:48 PM
@robjohn and sometimes I just don't make sense!!!
 
Orly?
 
@DanielFischer: Excellent, thanks very much! Since it was deleted I may re-ask it myself.
 
@Nick I call this thing "integration by cancelation" there are tons of examples.
 
Hi @Nick
 
@DanielFischer How did you find it?
 
4:49 PM
Hi @Integra
@Integrator :D
 
@NateEldredge Google, "self-adjoint" "bounded" site:math.se, past week only.
 
@sawarnik Hi
@sawarnik It's just color nothing else!
 
@N3buchadnezzar I have dreadful amount of practice with it. And it seems I need to hit the books for a bit more exercise. I'm too sloppy. Did I tell you about my lightbulb?
 
@Integrator Where did you learn calculus from?
@Integrator I know ;D
@Nick Reply hello!
 
@DanielFischer Nice, I didn't think of that. Thanks again!
 
4:51 PM
@Nick It is in my book :p
 
@NateEldredge You're welcome.
 
@Sawarnik calculi??
 
@Nick No?
 
@N3buchadnezzar Why don't you make an English version? Really?
 
@N3buchadnezzar Yes, I know. I'll do those questions again tomorrow.
 
4:52 PM
@Sawarnik Dunno I knew norwegian better at the time.
 
@N3buchadnezzar You can translate it? :O
Shouldn't be much work, and much helpful :O
 
@sawarnik books!
 
$$ \int \log \log x + \frac{2}{\log x} - \frac{1}{(\log x)^2}\,\mathrm{d}x $$
Perhaps my favourite integral, well it changes. But it is upp there.
 
@N3buchadnezzar I'm using google translate to line by line read your book. Apparently hitting translate pdf doesn't work on your document.
 
@Integrator Exactly. Which books?
@Nick Reply hello!
 
4:53 PM
@Sawarnik Yeah, if I had time :p
@Nick Have you treid downloading and opening?
 
@Sawarnik I'm sorry, but my shift thing is back and my backspace is broken too.
 
@N3buchadnezzar Ahhh ... :( ... I thought of learning integrals from your translated cookbook but ..
@Nick Delete works fine :D
 
@Sawarnik say, Thomas' Calculus
 
Oh I participated in the yearly norwegian championship for rubiks cubes
 
@Integrator where did you get it?
 
4:55 PM
I got a 4th place 3x3x3 one handed, and 6th place with two hands. Somewhat satifisied =)
 
@N3buchadnezzar What do you mean? What are you talking about? I have the book on my comp but since it was made in latex. Google translate can't crack the norwegian code :D
 
@Sawarnik It's popular book, try bookstalls!
 
@Nick I thought copy paste worked =(
 
@Integrator Why, Flipkart, Snapdeal or Amazon? :P
I used Stewart's Calculus though.
 
@N3buchadnezzar Oh yes, I've been copy pasting each line of your text into google to translate it. It's been working well so far :D
 
4:57 PM
You can get the tex file, not sure if that is better though :p
 
@Nick Easier to learn some Norwegian perhaps?
 
@N3buchadnezzar: Btw, using by parts $$\int \frac{\mathrm dx}{x\log x} = 1 + \int \frac{\mathrm dx}{x \log x}$$
 
Ok, byes.
 
Same with 1/x =)
 
@N3buchadnezzar Oh yes, it seems so.
@N3buchadnezzar Did we just prove 0 = 1, with those integrals?
 
5:01 PM
@Nick :p Remember the constant
It is the same with $\int \sin^2x \,\mathrm{d}x$ you can use the formula or by parts.
Giving two different expressions with differ by a constant
 
@Sawarnik Yes, that's what I've been doing, manually selecting the clipboard content that is randomly pasted and then pressing delete
@N3buchadnezzar Oh yes, I forgot the constnt when I evaluated 1. It should have been 1+C
 
Which again is just C
Since $C + k = C$, for any constant $C$ and $k$
 
:D yes. This constant guy... he's got issues.
@N3buchadnezzar How do suppose one could avoid writing it? Someone gave me the following trick
30 mins ago, by Nick
@N3buchadnezzar $$\int \frac{\mathrm dx}{x\log x } \equiv \log (\log x) \mod \Bbb R $$
28 mins ago, by Nick
@N3buchadnezzar Secondly, would you disapprove of the way I'm hiding $+C$
 
@Nick Because it looks ass and would make euler, gauss turn in their grave
 
@N3buchadnezzar hahahahahaaa
@N3buchadnezzar You wouldn't have a less ass-ish way of avoiding it would you?
 
5:11 PM
@MikeMiller The Lie-groups comment is indeed amusing. The question isn't uninteresting. My answer: convexity.
 
@Nick Attatch a $\mathcal{C}$ at the end. Or just write "because of space restraints the integration constant has ben omitted". There are cases where the different constans play a role, but usually it does not matter.
Most of the time the integration constant is the like the higgs boson, it does not matter. But some very strange scientists and mathematicans do think it matter.
 
@DanielF You should answer it, I think.
 
@MikeMiller I did.
 
@N3buchadnezzar The higgs boson gives mass to matter ... don't compare the integration constant with that
@N3buchadnezzar What do you mean, attach a $\mathcal C$ ? What is that?
 
just do all the integration and add a final C at the end
 
5:21 PM
Pleasant answer.
 
@N3buchadnezzar ok =)
Would someone here know how to use a multimeter?
I need to measure the resistance of an LDR I just bought from the store but I'm unsure which setting to put it to.
I need ohms but there are so many options.
200, 2000, 20k, 200k, 2000k ...
 
How many ohms are you supposed to measure?
 
@N3buchadnezzar i have no idea. i need to find the resistance of this ldr. idk how. i have a multimeter..
 
Try it as low as you can, if it says 200 or something strange than increase it,
 
Hello everybody. I need help in solving a system of linear equations in 5 variables (a..e) x 6 equations ((a + c = 17) (a + d = 16) (a + e = 28) (b + c = 4) (b + d = 29) (b + e = 15)). I decided to try the Gauss method, but it requires n x n matrix, so I combined the last two equations, but it gave a wrong result. What can I do? P.s. sorry for my English.
 
@N3buchadnezzar 20k setting seems to be giving reasonable values. how do i know how much ohm this is? Is this 20k*value
 
@Nick Is your avatar a potato (like you) with eyes?
 
@N3buchadnezzar O_O You're telling me that I'm dealing with $2\times 10^4 \, \Omega$ when the reading is 1!!!???
Wow, Viva La Resistance.
 
Well, no. What does it say if you try 2000?
 
5:37 PM
@Sawarnik I'm a fried potato finn... I've been electrocuted so many times today by my handmade light bulb
 
Great.
Did the bulb glow?
 
@N3buchadnezzar: 1613 just flashed for a sec
@Sawarnik yes, and then the cheap filament fused.
 
I guess you have 1.6kOhm then
 
@N3buchadnezzar this thing is smaller than a coin. What is this? Captain America's LDR
 
Whats this
whats that
 
5:42 PM
@N3buchadnezzar the ldr? It's a kind of photoresistor which a kind of photodetector.
 
^^
 
@Sawarnik I broke 3 more glass jars after the first one.
 
Watt is love, baby don't hertz me.
5
Ohm my god
 
hi
 
hmm.
byes.
 
5:44 PM
@N3buchadnezzar Does everyone in this room excel in electricity puns?
@Sawarnik Why are you no longer batman?
 
@Nick dunno I felt i got quite a good connection there with my puns.
The tension is electrifying elns
 
@N3buchadnezzar Did you guys get a PhD in puns before getting it in math?
You and @Alizter are naturals at this.
 
@Nick :p
 
Anyhoo, that's a nice song
 
@Nick i am in disguise, planning for the next big move :P
 
5:55 PM
An infinite amount of mathematicians walks into a bar. The first orders a beer, the second orders two beers and so forth. After a while the bartenders shouts enough! and pours -1/12 beers.
 
@Nick Oh, I would like to get it too!
 
@Sawarnik To become @Derivitive so that you can join @Calculus and @Integrator in their family?
@N3buchadnezzar Mother Hubbard, the bartender poured in a black hole!
 
@Nick who knows
 
@N3buchadnezzar peter capaldi?
sorry, couldn't resist a doctor who joke ;D
The electrical engineering room is really nice. I should have hanged there. Maybe I wouldn't have failed so much tonight if I had.
Maybe some other day :D ... I'll make that bulb yet :D
 
Maybe he poured anti-beer into a glass, blowing up the bar in the process.
2
I'd like to know where they got the anti-wheat, anti-hops, etc. to make the anti-beer.
 
6:12 PM
@Fargle From his aunty antigale?
 
@Nick :I
 
@Fargle Anti-beer is a horrifying prospect.
 
@MikeMiller Imagine getting undrunk.
 
@MikeMiller Very. I'll stick to normal piss water rather than anti-piss water
 
@MikeMiller Where will you hold that?
 
6:15 PM
@Fargle I'm sorry, you want what in your water?
 
@Nick People often call bad beer piss water, because it's watered down and supposedly tastes like piss.
I suggest not drinking bad beer so as to avoid the whole mess.
 
@MikeMiller True, but I'm also a broke college kid. So I usually just go for liquor anyway.
 
I think everyone in this conversation is underage so I'm technically supposed to just suggest not drinking beer. :P
 
@MikeMiller I'm thankful that I've never met those people who know the taste of piss so well.
 
Eww.
 
6:17 PM
@Nick just ask anyone who grades the freshmen
 
Drinking age is 21
 
I mean, er, I totally don't drink ever.
 
@Fargle Good!
 
Totally, @Fargle
 
6:19 PM
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_-
Byes.
 
@DanielFischer Hi Daniel Fischer could you please give me an idea how your proof using uniform continuity would look for the question I mentioned earlier? The proofs that I have is the one I proposed which you said was using 'connectedness' and then another one using the Intermediate Value Theorem. I'm interested to know how the one you said using uniform continuity would look?
 
@Sawarnik You've said bye for the kajillionth time today.
 
@Moses By uniform convergence, there is a $\delta > 0$ such that whenever $\lvert x-y\rvert \leqslant \delta$, then $\lvert f(x) - f(y)\rvert < 1$. For integer-valued functions, that then means $f(x) = f(y)$. So you reach $1$ starting from $0$ in finitely many steps.
 
I'll stick with legal vices like tobacco I guess. At least I can't get too buzzed to do math on that
 
6:29 PM
@Fargle Or you can turn a new leaf :D and become a better person :D
 
@Nick I don't know that that's a value judgment I'm willing to make.
 
@Nick If you want to become a better person you first have to leaf this chatroom.
 
@N3buchadnezzar This chatroom is raked 18.
 
@Fargle 'Fraid of change?
 
Though that is not the root of the problem.
 
6:33 PM
@Alizter The ents are.
 
Although conversation can branch sometimes.
 
@N3buchadnezzar I'm never actually here.
 
Maybe you should treet @Nick better @N3buchadnezzar?
 
@Nick Nah, I just figure I'll get in all of my irresponsibility before I'm actually accountable for other people.
 
And make planty of puns.
I got in trouble today :(
 
6:35 PM
@Alizter Maybe i wood, I can plant some good ideas in Nicks head. although he is thick as a nut.
 
.. and the pun master rose.
 
@N3buchadnezzar We are in a sticky situation.
 
@Alizter You are nuts
 
A catholic teacher was having an argument about gay marriage with a student today. So in the raising of voice I decided to shout "pray the gay away" however the teacher did not share my satirical comment.
 
The problems that stem from among us are deep rooted yet unfruitful to discuss..
 
6:38 PM
@Nick =( you tried too hard.
@Alizter We dont need no gayeductation, leave those gays alone
no pudding, no meat
 
@N3buchadnezzar Are you telling me to leave them alone?
 
@Alizter the teacher is wrong
 
Yes. The teacher is wrong.
He is crazy
I think he is a failed PhD student of Chemistry.
 
no meat, no pudding
 
Eep, it's $2\pi$ past midnight. Better get to bed. Goodnight fellas
 
6:51 PM
@Nick Gn.
@Nick How many is a kajillion? ~10?
Ok, byes.
 
What are the non-trivial(logarithmic are trivial) solutions to the functional equation $$f(x+y)=f(x)f(y)$$?
 
@UserX Only $e^{ax}$
 
@Alizter That's pretty trivial too. I'm looking for special functions I guess
 
@UserX That is the only one.
 
@Alizter How can we prove that?
 
7:03 PM
What happens when x and y are zero?
$f(0)=f(0)^2$
 
yes
 
so we have either $f(0)=0,1$
now set just y=0
we have $f(x)=f(x)f(0)$
so $f(0)=1$
Let y=-x
We have $1=f(x)f(-x)$
so $\frac{1}{f(x)}=f(-x)$
right?
@UserX
 
Yes
 
OK what about derivatives
 
I mean how do we know there are no more solutions. I want to prove the uniqueness not the existence
 
7:08 PM
@UserX we are doing it
$$\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}$$
now what can we rewrite $f(x+h)$ as?
@UserX
 
$f(x)f(h)$
 
So if we factorise $f(x)$ out of the limit what does our limit become (rewrite $1$ as $f(0)$)
and evaluate the limit
 
$$\lim_{h\to0}\dfrac{f(x)(f(h)-f(0))}{h}$$
 
you can take the $f(x)$ to the left
outside the limit
and some quick limit arguments give you that the limit approaches 1
so we have $f'(0)=1$
and $f'(x)=f(x)f'(0)$
you can rewrite as $\frac{f'}{f}=1$
so integrating both sides we have $\log f = x + C$
 
Didn't we just lose all non-differentiable functions though?
 
7:16 PM
therefore $f=e^{Cx}$
or something similar
I need to do my chemistry homework but you get the point.
Functional equations are hard.
 
My point was
that we have to prove the uniquity of this solution
and we assumed differentiability
 
@UserX If the function is continuous, it is either $0$ or some $a^x$. If you don't require continuity, the answer usually begins something like "Let $\mathcal{B}$ be a Hamel basis of $\mathbb{R}$ over $\mathbb{Q}$ ..."
 
Yeah.
Dan knows
 
@DanielFischer I'm looking for the second answer to be honest
 
@UserX Okay. You can see that either $f\equiv 0$ or $f(x) \neq 0$ for all $x$ easily. So suppose the latter. You get $f(x) > 0$ for all $x$ by $f(x) = f(x/2)^2$. Take the logarithm, $g(x) = \log f(x)$. Then $g(x+y) = g(x) + g(y)$. Now google "Cauchy functional equation".
 
7:22 PM
"This condition was weakened in 1875 by Darboux who showed that it was only necessary for the function to be continuous at one point." What does this mean?
How is that possible?
 
If I say n is an element of the set of integers, does that include the posibility that n is infinite?
 
@UserX If a function satisfying $g(x+y) = g(x) + g(y)$ for all $x,y$ is continuous at one point - actually, if it is bounded in a neighbourhood of one point - then it is globally continuous. Follows from the functional equation.
 
If I define a function with domain exactly one point, is it a function that's continuous at only one point?
 
@hb20007 No, integers are finite by definition.
 
@Nick Seen 15s ago? Hmm?
 
7:26 PM
@DanielFischer I thought so but then n can be = 1000, 10000, 1000000, 1000000000 and i could go on. So doesn't that imply n can approach infinity?
 
@UserX If its domain is only one point, it is continuous. On its whole domain. Which is exactly one point. So it's continuous at exactly one point. But that's boring. The thing with Cauchy/Darboux is that you have a function defined on all of $\mathbb{R}$, and if it satisfies the functional equation, continuity at one point as an additional requirement forces it to be analytic.
 
@hb20007 Another route, compare the reals and the extended reals.
 
@hb20007 "Approach infinity" is different from being infinite.
 
@DanielFischer Oh I see. So n can be an integer very close to infinity but never actually n = infinity
 
@DanielFischer What's an example of of a solution to that functional equation solved over the reals?
 
7:31 PM
oops..thought my class was at 4 for some reason but it's actually at 3..might be my subconscious telling me i already failed the class anyway so why bother going
 
@hb20007 "Very close" may be impossible, depends on how you define the distance. But once you've reached infinity, you've left the realm of integers (or real numbers, or complex numbers).
 
@DanielFischer@UserX alright, I see now. Thx guys
 
@UserX You mean other than the continuous ones? Well, let $\mathcal{B}$ ...
 
@user130018 yes..take a break.
byes.
 
7:34 PM
@DanielFischer Will it not have a closed form like the functions I know? Even the Weirstrass function has a form that I'm kinda familiar with
 
@Saw i can't because without the notes from lecture, i can't memorize them (prof wants us to memorize everything word for word or he'll mark it incorrect)
 
@user130018 are you studying biology?
 
@UserX it's analysis class
 
@UserX There are uncountably many functions and only countable many have nice closed forms, so it stands to reason most will be ugly. ;)
 
Can we at least graph such equation?
Okay, I read some papers, they all include the following two things; Hamel Basis, Indexing Set. I have no idea what these are so I'll leave the problem as is
 
7:41 PM
@UserX No. The Weierstraß function is very very tame. A discontinuous solution of the Cauchy functional equation is ugly. It is not measurable. Its graph is dense in the plane.
 
@MikeMiller If the circle group $\Bbb T$ is isomorphic to $\Bbb R/\Bbb Z$ is there any other way to prove this other than isomorphism theorem because of kernel of exponential map?
 

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