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10:00 PM
So it's hard to find questions you've answered
 
It's ok, @robjohn.
Thanks guys!
 
I am capped out anyway, @robjohn =)
 
@Srivatsan: tag-wiki time :)
 
I just found the combinatoric one marked cw :-(
 
10:03 PM
Hi guys, quick question: In English, how would you say that you're comparing two numbers and treating them as the same if they only differ after a certain decimal point?
 
I accepted Gerry's answer =)
 
For example, "These values should be considered the same if they don't differ after the eight number after the decimal." sounds weird to me :P
 
QED
approximately equal
 
@QED How would I fit in the precision there? Could I say, "with a precision of …"?
 
Maybe roudned to 8 decimal places?
 
10:05 PM
@MartinSleziak That actually sounds nice, yeah.
 
QED
0.15366 and 0.15376 are equal to three decimal places
 
But I am not right person to ask. (I'm not a native English speaker. And I was never taught math in English.)
 
@MartinSleziak Me neither, that's why I ask :P
@QED Sounds good!
 
Phew. Just finished texing the homework and handed it in.
 
@Srivatsan so you're capped 5 rep short of 10k?
 
10:08 PM
Okay, thanks @QED and @MartinSleziak, that'll get me somewhere. Greetings from SU and have a nice day/evening :)
 
@Srivatsan: You could fill the blank spots here
 
QED
and you
 
I brought up another window with your profile
 
@robjohn (S)he needs only 3
 
@Gigili I see that now that I've refreshed
 
10:14 PM
Sorry guys, just finished writing an answer.
I have a somewhat funny feeling about it. :-/
 
@Srivatsan: you didn't show what was asked: It was asked to show that TT* = I
That's not equivalent. (let T be the left shift on l^2(N) then TT* = I because T* is the right shift).
 
Yes, just realised. :-/
But whatever I have written -- does that look right, or no? Esp. the very first sentence =)
 
@Srivatsan It does seem to be on the right track. Have you tried replacing T by T* throughout and using that T* is injective because T is surjective by hypothesis?
 
Wait, I am not following. Is the claim that <T* x, T*y> = <x,y>?
Who can accept tag wikis? Can you check and tell me if that looks ok or should I add more stuff?
 
10:35 PM
Well, what you're trying to show is equivalent to this. I think the version of the Banach Schauder theorem saying that if T(B_X) dense in B_Y then the induced map X/Ker T -> Y is an isometry and it is onto because T is onto by hypothesis. This should give you a matrix decomposition, but I'm not really in the mood of operator theory.
@Srivatsan You could expand it a little, but I approved it anyway :)
 
I haven't written a wiki before. I modeled it based on graph-theory which is equally wimpy =).
No use, tb. Apparently that +2 is not being counted for some reason =)
 
Hm. Then you have to wait another hour and a half.
 
@tb Ok, cool =)
Thanks for your explanation . Apparently, the OP already can make the isometry => T*T = Id connection. All he was looking for is to prove that T* is an isometry.
 
@TheChaz I received your mail. Give me some time to think about it. I'll write back, but let me tell you right away I took no offense whatsoever :)
 
rep recalc gave me +1. So I am 9998 right now. =)
 
10:41 PM
9999 is much cooler than 10k
 
@tb Which reminds me: I told Martin what I think of you the other day while you weren't around : )
 
@Srivatsan Here's a version of that argument. It's the usual proof of the open mapping theorem but pimped a little bit (actually it's the original version of the proof by Banach-Schauder).
 
@JonasTeuwen : D
 
@tb Alright, thanks.
 
10:50 PM
@tb here
 
Hi @tb.
 
@Matt This is very nice to read, thank you! (I liked the end: "Oh, pup needs a stroll, brb"). How did you end up calling her? Aleph-naught, Bet-2 or Gimel-27?
@JonasTeuwen Hi Jonas. I like this French thesis comic very much.
 
@tb We don't know yet for sure. First we thought "Aya" but it doesn't seem to be the right name.
 
Hello there
 
Would you like to see what the fog in ZH looks like from here?
 
10:56 PM
@tb It is cute :-).
 
Hi @Jonas and @Matt
 
Hi @Akram!
 
how do you do ?
 
Fine, you?
 
i am ok , but Mathematically i am not :(
 
10:58 PM
What's up?
 
frustrated by some problem
 
Tell us, maybe we can help.
 
it would be trivial for you , i am just trying to do it myself
 
Damn I was productive for only four hours and I already feel wasted!
 
@JonasTeuwen Perhaps you are wasted. =)
 
11:00 PM
That might be the case.
 
Whisky time!
 
@Matt Oh right, I forgot about that :D. I was just worrying what to do now the bottle of wine is empty.
 
@JonasTeuwen Au début, c'est tellement compliqué, on n'y comprend rien. On peut passer des heures et des heures à chercher sans rien trouver. Dans ces moments-là, mon papa et ma maman sont drôlement inquiets et quand ma maman demande si c'était une bonne idée de faire faire une thèse au petit (c'est moi), mon papa ouvre la bouche sans parler, il agite les bras, et il s'en va lire le journal dans le salon.
 
@Matt how do you deal with frustrating problems ?
 
The bank treats me differently now that I have a degree...
 
11:02 PM
@AkramHassan I found SE. : ) Now life is less frustrating : )
 
@JonasTeuwen Wait a few more years and be stunned by that effect :)
 
@tb Maybe that is more applicable to France, I saw that they even pay postdocs less than what I have now.
 
@JonasTeuwen Are you talking about Maîtres de Conf positions?
 
Hmm. Glenmorangie Lasanta. Yes, that sounds like a good idea. Fruity.
@tb Yes.
 
@Matt , SE ?
 
11:03 PM
@AkramHassan Stackexchange.
 
Yeah, the pay is ridiculously low. However, the upside of it is that the position is permanent.
 
This was for something in Paris!
 
ah
@Matt you do research ?
 
No. If you apply the school system to the skills of mathematicians I'm in kindergarten. And this is playground. Do you do research?
 
11:05 PM
@Srivatsan wrap the formatting around the link like so *[...](...)*
Braavo
 
@tb Ok thanks. What I did works in main site I guess.
 
no , if you're in kindergarden then i was born yesterday :)
 
I have found this site where they have .wav on how to pronounce the whisky brands!
 
@Matt I want to see it.
 
11:07 PM
@Matt Around where I come from, no answer means yes.
 
@Matt Oh, no, I forgot to answer, yes please.
 
"No no, so yes." =)
 
 
What on earth is this?
 
Why do they make the whisky bottles so small? :(.
 
11:09 PM
@Srivatsan that's a trail for cows to walk on.
 
Oh, are these pictures from your looong ride?
 
@Srivatsan What ride? I took the the other morning at dawn when I walked the pup.
 
Oh ok.
 
By the way, this is still in the city : )
@tb: Much nicer than below it, isn't it : ) It's silent and peaceful. No hoomins to disturb.
 
Yes, that's more like fog that is bearable.
 
11:12 PM
Do you know where it is?
 
Is that in Zurich?
 
@JonasTeuwen Yes : ) (depending on your definition of in Zurich)
 
Not sure, it looks a little too generic to point my finger on it. There are places like this all around Zurich, on the hills and at the city borders.
 
Hmm, I need to go to Zurich.
 
Yes! Come and visit.
 
11:16 PM
I too would like to visit Z. sometime.
 
Well, a city trip isn't that expensive. But the food will probably be quite expensive.
 
Come and visit, too!
Yeah eating out isn't cheap and it's nasty without fail.
 
@JonasTeuwen You'll find that cheap after you drank a few beers and Whisky afterwards.
 
"nasty without fail" < what does that mean?
 
It means where ever you go they will without fail serve you bad food.
 
11:18 PM
"It's not cheap and it's bad -- always."
 
Great. I'll feel home immediately.
 
: D
The worst is what they feed the students at uni. I could never eat that.
 
I should try that. Is it open to visitors?
I think it is worse here.
Even the soup is inedible.
 
Oh, if you take the Mensas as the pinnacle of cuisine, I recommend you go to a Mensa in Germany...
 
What do you guys think about the comment under this answer: math.stackexchange.com/a/87487/13425?
 
11:20 PM
Recently they started to serve what is called "Pangasius". A sort of fish that is farmed in large containers in some dirty river in Vietnam and because they have so many fish in one place they give them female hormones and iirc antibiotics so they survive and grow big.
 
@tb I know only this. What's Mensa?
 
QED
HINT <complete solution>
 
@JonasTeuwen Yes it's open to visitors.
 
QED
Does he just do this so people don't complain "stop answering homework questions!"
 
@QED Are you making fun of me, QED? =)
 
11:21 PM
@Matt Oh Pangasius was already big when I started to study (almost) decades ago...
 
QED
I'm not making fun of anything! math.stackexchange.com/a/87534/16697
I just think it's funny how he writes "HINT" then completely solves it
usually hint is a bit less than that
 
@tb I think a decade ago can still pass as recent : )
@Srivatsan I have no opinion about it.
 
@Srivatsan Mensa is the Latin word for table and in German they call students cafeterias like this.
 
@QED I thought you were talking about math.stackexchange.com/a/87173/13425... ;)
 
QED
aha
 
11:23 PM
Click the timeline to see the full history.
 
@Srivatsan My honest assessment is: a guy who can't manage to give one decent mathematical answer should refrain from voicing strong opinions on so many textbooks he obviously hasn't digested.
2
 
Ah this reminds me of an amusing review of my favourite algebra book (searching)
 
QED
@tb, who?
> Now I have put in no effort at all to solve this exercise (except of course reducing it to solving Pell's equation for n=3), which I don't like very much. Unfortunate
sigh
 
I linked to the wrong comment of Srivatsan's. He linked to a comment above.
 
QED
Not sure what he thought he was doing asking the math question on this site if he wanted to solve it himself
 
11:26 PM
@tb Ok, I was confused precisely because of that point. At the very start of the thread, darij commented something about Axler. I remember Kunze and Hoffman being recommended in my undergrad course, and I always thought it was a good book. However, the course was too easy, so I could manage without a single look at the book. I regret it now, but...
 
@QED Well, it was my fault, QED, and I acknowledge that.
 
QED
@Srivatsan, I disagree
 
Excerpt: "It looks that you have to work just as hard on your writing skills.First of all People who teach at the Undergraduate level are UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS, not teachers as you say ..."
lol
 
QED
if he didn't want help solving the problem he should not have asked it
 
11:27 PM
@QED Well, I could've gone with a milder hint. Didn't strike me to.
In any case, thanks for your support.
 
Do you think users like "Hannah" and "Marie. P." are females or males who use a female user name?
 
@Matt Why are you interested in this suddenly?
 
@Srivatsan Because there are many male names and every time I see a female name it makes me wonder.
 
@Matt LOL.
There was this post on MSE about mathematical writing, there were some books about that. Does anyone know what that post was? I'm interested in one of those books. I believe it was a PDF about mathematical writing that had those books in the references. Fuzzy...
 
@Matt I guess you should wonder the opposite. Is Srivatsan who he claims to be or is he a female with a male name. =)
 
11:32 PM
Oh! Are you a girl!?
 
I seem to be generating a flutter suddenly. =) // No, btw.
 
@JonasTeuwen: One reference is here in tb's answer
 
@JonasTeuwen This one?
 
QED
I want to answer some questions on this site but they're mostly too difficult
 
Or answered already...
 
11:34 PM
@tb The one Matt is pointing to. Thanks @Matt!
 
@JonasTeuwen: Welcome! : )
 
@QED All it takes is a start.
Just write a few answers (may be pick an area you feel comfortable with), and see how it goes.
 
@JonasTeuwen Also take a look at this
 
@Srivatsan Oh! The 1000 km of driving, now I get it! : )
 
@tb Great. I'll have it delivered to my desk :-).
 
11:49 PM
well, the third or fourth Google hit was the link I gave, I couldn't resist...
 
Great I have signed in a a student and I can't find the logout link...
It is a SSO environment so I'll click logout on blackboard 8-).
 
@AsafKaragila: Look who's here.
 
Cool. I have a link "send by internal mail" now :D.
 
Guess.
 
11:53 PM
I can't. I have to go now.
 
I thought you'd already gone. Anyway, not important.
 
Cool, they also have Functional Analysis by Stein and Shakarchi!
 
Is it the same Stein who is famous for being himself?
 
Yes.
Well... Who do you mean?
The Princeton guy?
 
Yes
 
11:56 PM
Yes, I know the guy. I just remembered that he has a fan in this group.
 
He also has a student in this group.
(the mean square)
 
robjohn?
 
We're a group?
 
I'm a fan 8-).
Maybe I should adopt him as my grandfather.
We're born in the same country, that gives some kind of a connection you know...
 
@JonasTeuwen You adopt him? Is that how it goes?
 
11:58 PM
: D
 
Terence Tao! :o
 
@tb To adopt? No, thank you. I don't have enough funds to feed an expert. =)
 
Charles Fefferman! :o
 

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