The Bridge

Ben Brocka

17:00

@Jin Romans are mean

spugsley

@fbueckert :o

Jin

woo he didn't look at the explosion. he's so badass

he just walked away

user43095

@spugsley hi! How's your mom?

Ronan Forman

So how is the stream for people not watching it on a -infinity delay?

Jin

is apple streaming yet?

been refreshing apple.com/apple-events/june-2013

badp

17:01

@RonanForman We're all getting -Infinity I think

@Jin Apple streaming its events? What?

spugsley

@jeffreylin_ she's doing good. They put her on some steroids to help bring down her lung inflammation and it's really helping her breathing :) Thanks for asking

Keen

@Jin Yup. it is on my ipad.

the presentation is just about to start

Jin

oh it doesn't work in chrome... has to be safari

Keen

on firefox on my pc, it's just saying 'available shortly'

user43095

@spugsley that's great!

Keen

17:02

instead of saying 'screw off, firefox user!'

Jin

whoa killer instinct!

badp

Oh, of course QuickTime only. Because fuck you.

Keen

and now it's begun, with an intro video.

Ronan Forman

I don't know why I'm watching this. I care for none of those games.

badp

@RonanForman I've tuned off indeed

user43095

17:03

I'm confused, what are we watching?

badp

It seems like the liveblogs are ahead of the stream anyway - as usual

Ben Brocka

We're not watching anything we've just all gone collectively insane

Iszi

Just caught up with the Killer Instinct announcement. We haven't seen anything from that franchise since SNES, right? I used to love that game!

Jin

i don't know which to watch.. E3 or Apple..

badp

hah

~~2 minutes~~ 71 seconds to snatch a ticket and 64% of them basically got lucky :P

Keen

17:05

@Iszi Wasn't there an N64 game? I can't recall.

SaintWacko

That looked cool

MBraedley

The new Forza?

Iszi

@Keen Oh, right. KI Gold.

Blem

badp

yeah, Sony gave Europe the middle finger there

> Tens of thousands of schoolkids picked an Apple store as a destination for a field trip

Wow that is sad.

Blem

17:07

lol

MBraedley

@badp But Sony also wants to pick up the Asian market.

Jin

@badp iLamb

RedRiderX

With Xbox One, we've transcended polygons.

Keen

@RedRiderX Finally, the return of voxels!

murgatroid99

lol @ "drive-atar"

fbueckert

17:08

@RedRiderX Now everything's made out of spheres.

badp

You're a sphere, you're a sphere, you're a sphere, everything is spheres!

Jin

wake me up when new iMac is announced. it's the only thing I'm interested in

badp

Okay, Apple is gifting Microsoft a few more minutes of time

Keen

Okay everyone, wake Jin every 30 seconds!

RedRiderX

"Drivatars", the next big innovation.

badp

17:09

talking about retail stores and whatnot

Keen

now ~~digital~~ online stores.

murgatroid99

@RedRiderX It actually sounds like a really cool idea, but I can't hear the name without laughing

RedRiderX

The Singularity is nigh! Our Drivatars will become one with the cosmos!

SaintWacko

@murgatroid99 Same here

It's a really awesome idea

MBraedley

in-game footage != game-play footage

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murgatroid99

17:10

@SaintWacko I've actually thought before that that could be a really cool way to make fighting game AI that's actually worth practicing against

badp

@SaintWacko What's it about?

SaintWacko

@murgatroid99 Yeah, hopefully other games will start doing the same

FAE

I still want a dollar for every time they mention "the cloud~"

Hello, Bridge

badp

Hi FAE

SaintWacko

@badp Your drive-atar learns from how you drive, and when you're not playing, your drive-atar is out playing against other people

fbueckert

17:11

@FAE Morning, @FAE!

badp

@SaintWacko oh.

SaintWacko

And when you play you're driving against other people's drive-atars

instead of an AI

badp

@SaintWacko eh.

MBraedley

@SaintWacko Well, AI based on the machine learned actions of real players.

SaintWacko

@MBraedley Well, right

badp

17:13

Now you just need to train your drivatar how to grief and ram into cars and drive the wrong way all the time

MBraedley

"Kinect" BINGO!

murgatroid99

@badp but they might only pair you up against shitty players then

MBraedley

(not actually playing live-stream bingo)

murgatroid99

since you'd be losing all of your races

SaintWacko

"More than three versions behind PC!"

badp

17:14

@murgatroid99 just get a botnet of fierce griefers going, playing games exclusively between each other

FAE

@fbueckert How goes it?

badp

THEN UNLEASH THEM ON AN UNSUSPECTING WORLD, LIKE A GAMES OF THRONES SPOILER

SaintWacko

@badp Griefers griefing griefers?

RedRiderX

"Minecraft on Xbox One, now approaching parity with PC!"

fbueckert

@FAE Pretty darn good. Yourself?

RedRiderX

17:15

I do not know what happened there.

badp

@RedRiderX oh good, now XBO Minecraft's going to be every bit as awful and bloated as the real thing!

Meanwhile, Apple is demoing another company's work in AI driving

I wonder if Apple's gentlemanly waiting for Microsoft to end its event first before it actually does anything meaningful.

fbueckert

So Mr. Whistleblower revealed himself, and is in Hong Kong. How much you want to bet the US goes after him with everything they have?

badp

...and it's a glorified game

FAE

@fbueckert Good to hear. Fair to middling here. Got the new Animal Crossing though as an early birthday present to myself, so I'm happy with that at least.

Jin

@fbueckert according to reddit comments, he'll commit suicide, with 5 bullets wounds to the head, with 2 different weapons, while taking a bath. the bathtub is on a moving truck

badp

17:17

@FAE nice. Hope you upgrade soon to a "kind of okay" rating, though.

fbueckert

@FAE I never really got into the Animal Crossing series.

FAE

@badp I was stupidly excited for this game.

fbueckert

@Jin Cynicism at it's finest.

badp

@Jin yo, here's your chance

FAE

@fbueckert I've played every one since GameCube. It's a game about collecting things! I love collecting things, haha.

@badp Haha, thanks, me too.

Jin

17:18

@fbueckert not too far off really. remember DC Madam?

fbueckert

@FAE I'm OCD about efficiency.

badp

Oh Apple it's been misleading for the last 5 years to talk about growth over year for macbooks

Ronan Forman

@FAE Yeah, I liked it, but I don't like the fact you need to play each day. It'd work well as a mobile game though.

Jin

@badp they count iOS devices as Macs too?

badp

@Jin don't think so.

They would if they had to though :P

FAE

17:20

@fbueckert This game's awesome for OCD! I plant my fruit trees on staggered days so I can maximize my harvesting profits.

badp

oh, nevermind, they're talking about the operative system. You can go back to snooze, @Jin.

FAE

@RonanForman Yeah, that's understandable. I quite like the "real time" aspect, but I understand how it can be a turnoff.

I don't quite understand what this game is.

badp

> We do not want to be the first software in history to be delayed due to a dwindling supply of cats

RedRiderX

So, Project Spark is a level editor without the game?

badp

so: OS X Sea Lion.

Jin

17:21

OS X Nyan Cat

badp

@Jin Soon.

Ronan Forman

@FAE Real time is cool, but it only seems to introduce penalties. Like weeds etc.

badp

> We want a name for the next 10 years. It's the places that inspire us here in California. Where OS X is designed.

THE DECADE OF THE SEA LION

IT IS HERE

fbueckert

@FAE Gah! I just started playing FF6 again, to prepare for the FF X HD remake.

badp

murgatroid99

17:22

@RedRiderX looks more like a level editor that is also a game

Jin

Mavericks?

FAE

@RonanForman Weeds aren't really a problem to take care of. I used to stop playing for months and when I'd start again, it was pretty easy to clear them out. You can also get a certain NPC to clear them for you. Stuff like holidays and such is pretty neatthough.

Keen

@badp It says "Mavericks"

@Jin Yup

badp

@Keen Yeah, I guess it was a joke.

FAE

....this song is awful.

RedRiderX

17:23

@murgatroid99 Like Garry's Mod without Half-Life, I guess?

Keen

@badp If you're not watching the stream, you're missing the context of how light-hearted the guy is being.

he's joking alot.

badp

Well, good luck making file tags work, Apple.

Ronan Forman

@FAE It was only an example. Maybe I just didn't like the timed events on the console versions. Seeing as I'd have to commandeer the TV to play at certain times.

FAE

@RonanForman This one's on 3DS! :D

Ronan Forman

@FAE But I don't have a 3DS.

Maybe I should get one, there are games now.

Keen

17:24

@RonanForman yuuuuuup

FAE

@fbueckert I'm excited for that. Also, I've still never played FF6. I did pick it up during the big 25th anniversary PSN sale though.

badp

Screen-independent virtual desktops sounds kinda nice, it's definitely not what I expect to happen on Ubuntu

Ronan Forman

If I can find 5 games I actually want I'll get one after my exams.

badp

@RonanForman What if you only want 4?

Ronan Forman

@badp I'll think about it.

FAE

17:26

Ryse looks stupidly QTE heavy.

badp

Oh, if you want 5 games you'll get the console. Okay

fbueckert

@FAE It's one of the better ones.

badp

@FAE Yeah, that looked kind of stupid.

FAE

Also maaaaaaaaaaaan, new Killer Instinct. :(

Ronan Forman

@badp What did you think I meant?

FAE

17:26

Woooooooow, her lines are scripted.

badp

@RonanForman As a PC Gaming Master Race™ I never have these quandaries, sorry :P

fbueckert

I'm realizing just how much it didn't really tell you, and character motivations are pretty thin, but it's still lots of fun.

I thought the MS press conference was over?

Keen

@badp for PC's, it's 'when to upgrade' instead of 'when to buy console'.

FAE

@fbueckert Still running.

badp

@Keen For me, that's "two years ago"

ehhhhh this MIGHT have a chance to work.

MBraedley

17:27

This seems like a big F-you to Nintendo.

badp

so long as you only ever use 3 or 4

Keen

Urgh, when he said they were doing a demo, I hoped it was just for multiple displays.

badp

@Keen He is doing that

Keen

Yeah, now he is.

FAE

Hm, they might have a leg up on Sony if they have an actual Twitch partnership.

PS4 hasn't really given a lot of details about their streaming/sharing.

badp

17:29

@FAE Just wait until 3am for more about it! Possibly!

Keen

(apple stuff) Oh wow, they did fix multiple displays.

FAE

Okay, moving to real currency, that's the first decent thing I've really heard.

MBraedley

Yay, real money!

and meeting :(

badp

Didn't Microsoft announce the death of Microsoft Points a year ago or so?

FAE

And household gold is really nice.

badp

17:30

(I assume that's what you mean)

SaintWacko

@MBraedley :(

Noctrine

srs

FAE

Not that I'm getting an Xbox One, but still.

I wish this stream would stay in HD for me.

Keen

'idle hygiene'?! wtf?

SaintWacko

No sound

badp

17:30

Ullallulloo

Is this supposed to have sound?

FAE

I wonder if they'll make household gold available on 360.

badp

@Keen I suppose it's marketing speech for "Run maintenance tasks every now and again"

Keen

@badp Except the managed to make it sound vaguely gross.

badp

@Keen Gotta sell it to people who don't understand it!

fbueckert

17:32

@badp Your Xbone has a pure mind! It must stay that way!

badp

while "idle hygiene" is gross, it might sound "grosser" to think of something that doesn't "have" it.

Ben Brocka

@FAE I think it's UStream for PS4 (doesn't matter for me, I use my own hardware)

FAE

@BenBrocka Ah, okay, I couldn't remember.

badp

I wonder if they're managing to spin "Private browsing" as "most innovative"

Keen

I'm curious about the techy details of the memory management he just described, because I couldn't follow what his abstract description meant.

Ben Brocka

17:33

Wonder if Xbone will remove the "top 300 channels" restriction on the Twitch app?

badp

"Reopen last closed window" or "Audio & Video tags" also sounds "most innovative"

Ben Brocka

It would be hilariously cruel to let just anyone stream but your friends can't watch you play over Xbox

badp

I mean, if they've only just added those features to safari why are we still vilifying IE10?

Keen

@badp Those are past 'new' features.

badp

I am disappointed, internet.

Keen

17:34

I think

badp

@Keen oh.

I hope so!

Keen

They're just trumpeting how great Safari already is.

Then they'll punch it up with the new stuff.

badp

@Keen using the same kind of slide they've used to trumpet the new features of OS X, because that's intuitive and Apple's undefeated in design. Yeah.

Keen

@badp Yeah, it's slightly clear in the live feed.

Just slightly.

badp

@Keen Right now Ubuntu and Android is what I'm running, so I can't join you there.

even if I wanted to taint them with Quicktime.

Shotgun Ninja

17:36

gamespot.com/e3/microsoft-press-conference?tag=Topslot;Slot1

Anyone else watching?

Jin

is that GTA the Zombie edition?

Shotgun Ninja

Dead ~~Rising~~ Island 3

FAE

@Jin Pretty much. Dead Rising 3.

fbueckert

@badp So undefeated, that NO ONE is allowed to copy their designs.

Keen

@ShotgunNinja Several people are. There's a mix of MS and Apple discussion happening.

Shotgun Ninja

17:37

Same shit different title

What's Apple discussing?

badp

wait, Dead Island 2 is a thing that exists?

@ShotgunNinja Right now, Safari.

FAE

@badp Riptide, yeah.

Shotgun Ninja

@badp Yeah dude

Keen

@badp Heh, I opened my ipad instead of installing Safari on my PC. My desk looks pretty dumb. 3 monitors, plus the ipad. >_>

Shotgun Ninja

Nope, it's Dead Rising 3, not Dead Island 3.

badp

17:37

Are we talking about that video game series with the super misleading backwards trailer?

Shotgun Ninja

Y'all done fucked up.

Keen

@ShotgunNinja The next OS X.

Ullallulloo

And if I don't have Smart Glass the game's near impossible then?

FAE

@ShotgunNinja That's what I meant to say, brain hiccuped.

SaintWacko

@Ullallulloo Looks like it

badp

17:38

1 min ago, by Shotgun Ninja

@badp Yeah dude

:P

FAE

Witcher 3 info, @LessPop would be pleased.

badp

Chrome password sync for iCloud is kind of nice I guess

Jin

Mass Effect X

badp

@Jin wat

Jin

Half Life 3..

FF7-2

badp

17:40

@Jin k.

@Jin .

Keen

"They see Jin trollin'. They hatin'."

Jin

a girl can only dream...

badp

> now when you sign up for a website, you can enter your own password, but Safari can autosuggest a password for you

MBraedley

What did I miss?

badp

Now that's kind of nice. I know Chrome tried to get something like that going, but the UI for it only lasted a for a handful of nightlies, never to be seen again.

Keen

17:40

Built-in password manager and generator. Snazzy.

Jin

I never use Safari.. except for watching Apple live streaming

badp

MBraedley

Is this a new Elder Scrolls?

badp

except that password looks outright terrible

Blem

@Jin you had him with Mass Effect X, but no one would believe Half Life 3 before it was released

FAE

17:41

@MBraedley The Witcher 3

Shotgun Ninja

@MBraedley Looks like it, but it's The Witcher 3

badp

I like how they added dashes to make the password look secure and satisfy the sites that require symbols

Keen

@badp Yeah, I hope there's a GUI we're not seeing that lets us tell it to only use letters and numbers, skip the symbols. While adjusting the length, etc.

badp

without actually making it one bit more secure

I'm afraid you'll need more than 36^12 combinations to be safe.

Oh good, OS X is getting some of that spohts action too. Spohts, spohts, spohts, television, television, call of duty.

LessPop_MoreFizz

for some reason my Apple livestream is like 5 minutes behind.

badp

17:43

@LessPop_MoreFizz live.arstechnica.com/wwdc-2013-keynote-liveblog

FAE

Hahaha the Battlefield 4 demo is failing

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp I'm watching the live video feed

badp

> Now in Mavericks, if your machine is sleeping, when you wake it up, it'll tell you everything you missed right on the lock screen

LessPop_MoreFizz

but for some reason it's behind.

MBraedley

And this is why you don't do a live gameplay demo

Ullallulloo

17:43

...

SaintWacko

crickets chirping

badp

hah! We'll see how the idea of a lock screen for OS X is approached

MBraedley

even if they are better.

Keen

Oh, no skueomorphic (sp!) Calendar.

FAE

This is kind of hilarious

Ullallulloo

17:43

This is awkward.

SaintWacko

Haha

badp

@FAE aww, now I wish I hadn't closed that tab

but huge props to them for actually trying to show some actual gameplay

Keen

Crap, Apple Maps on os x, with ios integration features. I guess it's time to update from ios 5... :3

badp

@Keen Has the map data actually been improving?

MBraedley

Did they just fall back to -- nope.

Jin

17:44

bf4 looks nice

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp Yes, yes it has.

FAE

This stream won't stay in HD so all this gameplay looks like crap for me :(

Keen

@badp Beats me, I stayed on ios 5 because at the time I used public transit, and liked the UX for that under ios 5.

I would assume it has.

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz Then I guess it'll be nice to see how that stacks up to the new Google Maps.

Keen

@FAE The publishers need to get on that. Gameplay videos need to be made available for download at 1080P so we can see the pretty.

FAE

17:46

@Keen I switched to IGN's stream and this one seems to be holding better.

Ben Brocka

He must not have connected to the Internet in the last 24 hours #XboxE3

Tweeted by KazHiraiCEO on June 10, 2013 at 5:43 PM

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LessPop_MoreFizz

FINALLY. PER DISPLAY MULTIPLE DESKTOPS.

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz You are way more behind than 5 minutes man.

Keen

Heh, the guy on stage for Apple is making some nice cracks at their old stuff.

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Heh.

Keen

17:47

@LessPop_MoreFizz ...wow, yeah what @badp said.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp I am watching the actual video.

and yeah, I dunno why it's behind, but I don't care.

Keen

@LessPop_MoreFizz I am too, and you're massively delayed.

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz You are ~40 minutes behind, still.

Keen

They've done Safari, Maps, and ibooks at least since the multi-monitor stuff.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp Aaah, well, whatever. LIke I said, don't really care, just happy to actually see feed.

Ben Brocka

17:49

wow did they need to show THAT much explosions and bullets and ironsights?

badp

@Keen and Maps and Calendar and Books and other stuff that's kind of nice but they're really seeming to be holding their shots for later.

Ben Brocka

It's BF4, we get the drill

badp

@BenBrocka EXPLOHSIONS. The spelling, man. It matters.

Ben Brocka

oh good they're pretending to like indies again

badp

@BenBrocka after announcing that the only upcoming titles for the 360 are basically indie games?

Keen

17:50

@badp This is going to be a loooong presentation. They need to do ios 7 and new Mac hardware at minimum. They might do a new iphone unveil too...

badp

@Keen yeah, but I think they usually have stronger starts than this.

Ben Brocka

@badp Calling minecraft indie is a pretty big stretch at this point

FAE

Huh, from the Superbrothers: Sword and Sworcery devs :o

is this an exclusive as well?

badp

@BenBrocka Uh, if it was a 360 announcement it wasn't in the 360 part of their conference

Keen

okay then, new os x in the fall.

badp

17:51

@Jin wake up.

unless you don't give a fuck about new Air's, then go back to snooze.

Jin

@badp i is

oh it's air.. zzZZzz

FAE

@Jin I heard you cut your hair. :(

Jin

@FAE i did :(

FAE

@Jin This makes me super sad. :(

Jin

whoa new halo game?

Keen

17:54

... those new airport extremes look photoshopped.

a weird tower design.

badp

@Jin Halo: The Television Series: The Game?

MBraedley

Not a launch title?

FAE

Why the hell would you wear a cloak over power armor?

SaintWacko

Wait. Fucking hell, did I just miss the Halo trailer?

Jin

@FAE sand

MBraedley

17:55

@FAE Protect it from dust, obviously

badp

@FAE Spielberg demands a cloak!

FAE

@SaintWacko Yes

Coronus

@FAE Cloaks are cool.

badp

@Jin I'm sorry.

OrigamiRobot

@FAE Haven't you seen Warhammer 40k stuff?

Keen

17:55

are we expecting the next iphone to be unveiled today? i assume a fall release date.

SaintWacko

@FAE Sonofa... Is there anywhere I can go to watch older bits of the stream?

spugsley

IT'S A @FAE

HIHIHIHIHIIHIH

murgatroid99

@FAE disguise?

FAE

@SaintWacko Some streams let you rewind.

@spugsley Hellos!

Ben Brocka

New Halo to have the framerate PC shooters have had for over a decade!

2

Ullallulloo

17:56

They didn't even say its name.

Jin

whoa new Mac Pro! ok F iMacs

FAE

@Ullallulloo It's Halo... something.

badp

@Jin he said "a sneak peek" so basically it's just going to be a picture I assume.

murgatroid99

@Ullallulloo It's Halo 5

Jin

@BenBrocka PC gamers, the master race yes?

Ullallulloo

17:57

@BenBrocka Blistering!

SaintWacko

@Jin Always

MBraedley

Wow, screwing the Europeans

badp

@BenBrocka XBOne only, obviously?

@MBraedley Hm? Tell me more.

FAE

................$499 != 499 euro

Ullallulloo

@murgatroid99 Why wouldn't they just say that though?

FAE

17:57

jesus

MBraedley

Unless he misspoke.

Ben Brocka

@badp Of course, MS ironically doesn't give a shit about US

badp

Ah, the good ole $ = €

Ben Brocka

Where are people getting the price?

Did I miss that?

FAE

@BenBrocka He just said it, yeah

Keen

17:58

@FAE Yeah, but you guys will pay it anyway.

murgatroid99

@Ullallulloo They don't really have to at this point. The previous games in them main series were Halo 2, Halo 3, and Halo 4

Jin

@MBraedley so much circlejerking in this chat I think my mouse cursor just got stuck

badp

So those images aren't loading for me

@Jin lurk moar

FAE

@Keen That's about $660~ at the current exchange rate.

Keen

(admittedly, I'm skipping the One due to their used games BS)

MBraedley

17:59

the £429 isn't so bad as the euro price though.

Keen

Unless I'm missing something, they just killed the expansion features of the Mac Pro.

MBraedley

I'm guessing he meant €399, which would be more reasonable

badp

Keen

HTF are expansion cards supposed to work with this thing?

FAE

@MBraedley Highly doubtful.

fbueckert

17:59

@FAE That's as bad or worse as the PS3 at launch.

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