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Grumpy Lazers

19:01

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I've tried a handful of times and always come up jelly-less. Anyone have more precise instructions for cooking jelly than are in the potion manual?

candy-box

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Q: Is the Holy Trinity Needed for Neverwinter Raiding?

I have never played neverwinter, but i'm planning to start. As i have checked, it seems that there are classes in the game (Wizzard Cleric, Two Handed Fighter, A Shielded Tanker and a Rogue). The question is: For general raiding, will i always need a Tanker + Healer + Dps's in the party ? How ...

neverwinter

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Q: Which are the differences between races?

Do they have a different set of "Racial Skills" such as WoW and GW2 ? What differs the races other than cosmetic appearance?

neverwinter

user15026

I love her voice, I really do. I also love Mavda because she creeps me out

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn You'll learn more of the history as time goes on.

Mavda knows more than she's telling you, too.

user15026

@fbueckert I figured. She totally feels like she is not telling me much of anything

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Her husband is also not really explained at all.

user15026

@fbueckert That adds to my fascination with her

fbueckert

19:04

Or at least, that's what I think she calls that pot jar thing on her back.

Ben Brocka

@fbueckert that sounds right. I've never heard of the game and I only know XSEED from them publishing Rune Factory though

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Yeah, there was something in video game news about it.

user15026

@fbueckert Yeah that is her husband

fbueckert

Sorta the same reason Record of Agarest War was originally only released digitally for PS3.

@AshleyNunn There are many endings to the game, and they all depend on how much Elena likes you at the end.

Ben Brocka

I don't care about digital-only releases (if anything I hate physical-only releases) but not localizing at all is shitty

fbueckert

19:06

@BenBrocka That, I agree with.

StrixVaria

@fbueckert Saw you say "Elena", thought you were talking about Grandia 2. I don't even remember if that's the right name, but that game was awesome.

fbueckert

@StrixVaria I don't remember much of Grandia 2.

user15026

@fbueckert I know. Going to try to make her like me a lot

fbueckert

Absolutely loved Grandia, though. Cheesy voice acting and all.

Gaming Topics From Outside

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Q: How can use a different HDD with another OS to use as a Steam Library?

2nd HDD have XP while 1st have Ubuntu.But the Ubuntu drive is almost full and can't fit other games.The second HDD has enought space but when I try to use it it shows this error: "New Steam library folder must be on a filesystem mounted with execute permissions" How i get the second HDD to fit ...

installation hard-drive games steam

badp

19:13

:'(

user20683

This is how my head feels at the moment

user20683

stupid cold

badp

just why

user15026

@WorldEngineer This is making me the saddest

user20683

@AshleyNunn I'm sorry :(

user15026

19:15

@WorldEngineer Its okay

user15026

Apparently today is a day where everything makes me randomly sad

user15026

so its not your fault really

user20683

user15026

@WorldEngineer This is cute :D

user20683

19:17

How you know your newest Librarian majored in Graphic Design.

badp

Ah, of course. Good ole' Rainbow category

user15026

@WorldEngineer Pretty, but it also makes me twitch because how do you find anything

badp

@AshleyNunn Google Image Search

user20683

Grace Note

@AshleyNunn Using the Dewey Decimal System's brother, the Huey Shade System.

badp

19:21

I'm not sure I would trust that thing to hold a bottle

Ullallulloo

Jan 8 at 19:19, by OrigamiRobot

ARE THERE ALSO HUEY AND LOUIE DECIMALS?

OrigamiRobot

I'm famous!

user15026

@GraceNote Oh man I wish that was a thing

user20683

@OrigamiRobot You're Infamous

Grace Note

@AshleyNunn I was originally going to make it alliterative too, but at the end, "Huey Hue System" seemed a little... forced.

badp

19:24

Susy Hue System?

user20683

badp

@WorldEngineer The question is, what's he staring at?

user20683

@badp Gnomeslice

user20683

This is what you can do with 18 Dex

user15026

19:28

@WorldEngineer Impressive.

OrigamiRobot

@WorldEngineer In what system?

user20683

@OrigamiRobot DnD

user20683

It's be a 6 Agility for Shadowrun

user20683

+probably a 5 or 6 in Acrobatics

OrigamiRobot

@WorldEngineer My Ranger has 19 Dex in DnD.

Ben Brocka

19:32

@WorldEngineer that is the calmest cat ever

OrigamiRobot

@AshleyNunn has a 19 in licking rocks.

user20683

Huh, figured she was more of a Cleric or Druid than Ranger.

Ronan Forman

Today on The Bridge: A story in gifs.

user15026

@OrigamiRobot I do! I am really good at licking all teh rocks

user15026

I tried to lick a bridge once because it was stone but it was own by a wizard so my group wouldnt let me in case something terrible happened

OrigamiRobot

19:34

@AshleyNunn Pansies.

Sepia Lazers

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Q: Bounty button gone

Most beneficial loadout for the OTAS Boreas? There is no more bounty button. Fix please.

support bug

user15026

@OrigamiRobot I know, right?

user20683

19:48

@AshleyNunn

user20683

Coronus

@WorldEngineer Frogbot!

user15026

@WorldEngineer Jump robot jump!

OrigamiRobot

JUMPING

badp

19:56

oh look, Swype's now on the Play store - for $1

I guess that's why they made you renew your beta every six months

I already have what Swypes gives me, though, and for free and inbuilt. So meh.

OrigamiRobot

@badp Swype was included on my phone.

badp

@OrigamiRobot Swype swype or the 4.0 default keyboard that also does Swype? I refer to the latter, which I think is included on some handsets by default as well

OrigamiRobot

Sour Skittle time (cc: @kalina)

@badp It's Swype.

badp

Okay.

OrigamiRobot

And my lines are orange. Others I've seen are blue.

badp

19:59

Yeah, blue lines are the 4.0 default keyboard

OrigamiRobot

@badp No, even before 4.0.

badp

uh.

Well, okay, the 4.0 default keyboard's lines are blue.

Can you accept this data or..?

OrigamiRobot

I've accepted all the data I need for today.

badp

Ah. Good ole write only mode.

Ben Brocka

@badp the beta (at least the one I got) was totally broken in a few ways

badp

20:02

@BenBrocka Mine worked, but not sensibly better than the default keyboard.

Ben Brocka

like it wouldnt' add words to dictionary and hitting the swype button didn't select the last typed word. So totally worth a dollar to fix

badp

uh, if it was like that I would've just removed it

OrigamiRobot

I have 1.4.1.11684

badp

@OrigamiRobot Android?

OrigamiRobot

Yes

badp

20:04

I mean, Android 1.4.blah?

or Skype 1.4.blah?

OrigamiRobot

Oh, Swype.

Android 4.1.2

user15026

I don't really like swipe keyboards

badp

Flipboard just decided to spam me about the new Android version which lets you create your own magazines

From the wording it seems like they're really trying to hide the fact that the feature's been out for iThingies for ages.

@AshleyNunn Oh, they're wonderful. I guess you need a large enough screen to actually swipe around?

user15026

@badp I struggle with them. I dunno why

badp

I had Swipe for Symbian but the screen was kinda tiny so Swype wasn't a joy to use - while still heaps and bounds better than default

@AshleyNunn Sounds like Swiftkey is for you then?

user15026

20:07

@badp Yeah, it's what I use :)

badp

I don't "get" Swiftkey. You're, uh, supposed to randomly punch your keyboard mindlessly and it writes your youtube comments for you?

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That's honestly my leading theory for the shittiest Youtube comments

M'vy

@badp Swiftkey is about prediction

user15026

@badp I dunno. It just works for me

badp

@M'vy so's swiping.

legacy

@AshleyNunn I thought you were an android user

badp

20:08

unless you mean "finishing your sentences for you" which is slightly creepy

M'vy

I don't do swiping.

user15026

@legacy I am

badp

@legacy wait what? You can install custom keyboards on the iThingy?

M'vy

well it seem to have a way to complete a word as well as predicting the next word.

Gains time

Coronus

@legacy For a second I thought you meant she was a user that was an android, not a user of Android.

badp

20:10

I've just googled "Gains" as if it was a surname

user15026

@Coronus how do you know both arent true

badp

@AshleyNunn Androids aren't this fabulous (I wish it was this easy in meatspace)

user15026

@badp I suppose not

Coronus

I switched my keyboard to a Japanese one. It works pretty well, unless you want to type in English.

badp

Sometimes I want to type in Italian.

OrigamiRobot

20:12

SOMETIMES I WANT TO TYPE IN LOUD

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badp

loud: unsupported

OrigamiRobot

:(

Ben Brocka

hits the mute button

Coronus

@BenBrocka What'd the mute button do to you?

badp

@Coronus It cheated on him. He was being pressed by all the other fingers

legacy

20:15

@Coronus muted him

SaintWacko

@Coronus I used to have my keyboard set up so I could toggle between English and Russian

Ullallulloo

Humble Bundle now accepts Bitcoins.

Grumpy Lazers

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Q: What does reducing an NPC's stamina do?

So lets say you drain an NPC'S stamina with Poisons/Absorb Enchant/Etc... What does this mean for me: the player? Unfortunately it's not like morrowind where they collapse (Man I wish it was still like that), but besides not being able to do power bashes, what benefit does this actually give th...

skyrim

legacy

@Ullallulloo that still exists?

badp

@Ullallulloo That is... horrible news. :(

user15026

20:21

@SaintWacko I have keyboard stickers on this laptop for Russian, and Swiftkey also set up for Russian on my phone

Ben Brocka

@legacy each coin's worth over $100 now

Powerlord

@BenBrocka Really? Last I checked they were worth 0 to the majority of people in the world.

Myself included.

legacy

@BenBrocka @Ullallulloo originally said plus.google.com

hence my qestion

Ben Brocka

@Powerlord What matters is that it can be sold

Ullallulloo

@legacy It's still a link to Google Plus.

RedRiderX

20:23

@Powerlord Well technically a Euro isn't worth much to the majority of people in the world.

Ullallulloo

Which still has like 200 million active users.

Powerlord

@RedRiderX Sure it is. I can go to my local bank and convert it to a local currency.

@legacy We assumed you were talking about the content of the link, not the link itself.

Ullallulloo

@Powerlord You can got to Mt.Gox and convert Bitcoins to a local currency too.

RedRiderX

@Powerlord Banks aren't really people though.

Powerlord

@Ullallulloo My.Gox is actually back up again?

badp

20:24

@RedRiderX That's the point?

Powerlord

@RedRiderX I actually meant my credit union, but whatever.

badp

@Ullallulloo AFAIK that thing won't actually convert bitcoins for you, it will simply match an offer to buy with an offer to sell.

Ullallulloo

@Powerlord It was down for like three days cuz of a DDOS.

Powerlord

@badp Which, incidentally, is the same thing eBay does, but eBay works with physical goods rather than math calculations.

badp

@Powerlord eBay as in Paypal?

Powerlord

20:26

Well, OK, not exactly the same, but close enough.

@badp You know that eBay is the parent company, right?

badp

@Powerlord That's why I'm asking.

I mean, "match offers to buy to offers to sell" sounds also exactly like, yknow, an auction

hence my asking

Powerlord

@badp Well, the way you phrased it sounded like PayPal owned eBay rather than the other way around.

RedRiderX

@badp Don't banks follow money markets to get their conversion prices, albeit in less of a timely fashion?

badp

@RedRiderX well yes.

I mean

Powerlord

Hmm... did TF2 update yet today?

badp

20:29

the point is that the bitcoin economy is not one I buy into or want to buy into, because it gives me absolutely no benefit

as far as I'm concerned for all practical purposes it's a scam used to generate worth out of nowhere, a fad with luxury pricing schemes that is very much more like a TF2 unusual than an actual currency with stable, predictable value

you know, stable predictable value being one of the whole design goals and one of the whole points of Bitcoin

where the "currency" has failed very, very miserably with massive amounts of deflation that makes the Zimbabwe Dollar look sane in comparison

Powerlord

Yeesh, Valve... you've known that replay has server-side issues for like a week now and haven't fixed it yet?

RedRiderX

@badp Yeah, it seems that the big 'selling point' of it, is that instead of a central bank, its value is tied to... itself?

badp

@Powerlord I don't even bother trying to use replays now, I know that when it's not disabled I'll get "download failed" every single time

RedRiderX

Its software?

Ben Brocka

@badp eventually when all coins are found it will likely stabilize

badp

20:32

@BenBrocka in ~2040?

RedRiderX

I guess it wants to be digital gold.

Ben Brocka

And since the "crash" the price has stayed fairly stable and it's still waaaaay higher in value than lots of people seemed to think it would crash to

badp

No, its value will keep rising because there'll be no supply to match the demand

Powerlord

@BenBrocka Which crash? There have been more than one.

badp

It's not like now that we're out of IPv4 addresses, they'll get cheaper

Sure, you can use carrier grade NAT and spread them over multiple users

(aka splitting bitcoins in tens of millionths)

but still, there'll be no supply to match the demand

and the price of IPv4 addresses is only going up, obviously

Ben Brocka

20:35

All I know is that thus far it's performed far better than detractors have said and places have started to accept it as it's own currency, which is IMO the major barrier to it actually being used in any way other than what's basically a stock market

badp

@BenBrocka lol, you mean thousandfold deflation is a good thing?

hooray, let's celebrate

fbueckert

@badp Once most of the world has converted to IPv6, the demand for v4 will drop precipitously.

badp

@fbueckert Ohhhh! Good point! In 2040 we can all switch to Bitcoin 2.0 and have this whole bullshit all over again.

Possibly even sooner than that though.

fbueckert

@badp Easy, dude. I'm not attacking you.

badp

I'm not attacking anything, I was just rolling with what you said.

Ben Brocka

20:37

It was a brand new currency, of course there's a massive correction

fbueckert

I don't get Bitcoin myself; there's a real cost to gaining those coins, and I'm not sure if the cost outweighs what you get.

badp

@BenBrocka Currency is not vanity items, it's something you buy things with

Ben Brocka

I mean if it hadn't shot up massively what would the sum of all possible bitcoins been worth anyway? About $400 total?

badp

Bitcoins isn't something you buy things with, it's a vanity item

fbueckert

It's a speculative currency right now.

badp

20:38

Why buy something with bitcoins today when it's going to be worth many more times in a few months?

Cocaine is one of the most lucrative investments with ROIs of 80% yearly

How much's bitcoin increased since last year by comparison? Threefold?

Ben Brocka

My problem is the argument against bitcoin seems to change every few months

M'vy

Keep saying bitcoins, they are said to grow in value each time people discover them

Ben Brocka

From "no one wants to buy that" to "well it's still worthless" to "hey the price is going up" to what seems to basically be "hey stop that guys I said you don't want it stop buying it"

I'm sure if the deflation settles there will be some new reason

badp

@BenBrocka Well of course the parts where it can be used to dodge paying VAT or launder money (other problems I have with that) are still there, they're just not relevant to what I'm saying right now, or not what the most glaring issue with it is.

I mean, technically you can pay your VAT separately right?

I'm sure people will remember doing that when they do their taxes.

I mean, isn't that another main tenet of the currency? Remaining anonymous in your transfers?

So that The Man™ doesn't know how much money you have and thus tax you accordingly?

Don't get me wrong, it's something interesting to follow and the discussions that bitcoins almost encourage are always interesting ones

As far as DOING SCIENCE goes, Bitcoin's pretty damn okay

fbueckert

@badp Now if mining Bitcoins was tied into doing something useful, like those folding@home things or something, it could have a really beneficial use.

badp

20:51

@fbueckert but it's already bound to solving mathematical problems!

I don't know what kind; I think it's reverse hashing

fbueckert

@badp I thought it was just a cryptographic algorithm, bound to itself.

kalina

I have concluded that I would be screwed in any chat.se channel that isn't this one

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fbueckert

Is it actually being used to solve a problem not of it's own making?

badp

@kalina This message confuses me, so I'll close it as "confuses badp" by starring it.

OrigamiRobot

@kalina I ate the sour skittles. Now I have skittle mouth.

I regret nothing.

kalina

20:53

@badp the flag for saying "hello"

badp

oh, that kind of screwed!

(you may now groan)

kalina

you are perverted

OrigamiRobot

...

kalina

still, you're male, it happens

Grumpy Lazers

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Q: Racing profitably with expensive cars in Real Racing 3

I've completed about 50% of Real Racing 3, own 29 cars and my driver level is 72. As I progress towards the series with the really slick (and expensive) cars, I'm starting to notice I'm making hardly enough money to cover repairs after race. Pushing from the 22nd position to the podium in about t...

real-racing-3

Ben Brocka

20:57

@badp Dead tree money has the same issue. Stores can simply charge VAT as they currently do, and you still do your taxes as your normally do

badp

@BenBrocka The idea of VAT is that most entities buy things, work on them, then sell them. VAT is applied on every buy/sell transaction along the way; since you bought items with VAT, you want to sell your produce with VAT

After you do that, it'll be as if you paid no VAT. Unless you're the final consumer, who's the one that actually does pay VAT.

(am I missing the point?)

Ben Brocka

That doesn't change my point; there's nothing different about bitcoin transfers in that regard

badp

@BenBrocka What's the HIB buying from?

Ben Brocka

I'm not a fan of VAT in the first place, but nothing about bitcoin prevents paying VAT and nothing about other currencies enforce it directly either

Ullallulloo

@badp l2faq: Coinbase

badp

21:00

Fair. (I like VAT because it's kind of hard to dodge.)

FEichinger

Oh, the Bitcoin discussion again ..

badp

@Ullallulloo I didn't say "what's the HIB buying bitcoins from?", I said "what's the HIB buying the products they sell from?"

@FEichinger Well, HIB now supports Bitcoin :(

Ullallulloo

@badp Well, you didn't really say either.

FEichinger

@badp So?

badp

@Ullallulloo I thought it was obvious from context. Do I get to tell you "l2context"?

Ullallulloo

21:02

@badp yes

FEichinger

Bitcoin is currency out of thin air, quite literally. Don't buy into it and watch it burn. Move on with your lives.

badp

@FEichinger so HIB bought into it.

I don't know how to feel about it. It might be excessive to boycott them for this, but I don't think more highly of them as a result.

FEichinger

@badp So? Watch them burn as well. Tragic, but I honestly couldn't care less about who supports Bitcoin. It's gonna die eventually, and whoever was dumb enough to join up is gonna get hit. No need to bother doing anything, it's all gonna happen on its very own.

Ben Brocka

Large amounts of "real" money is out of thin air as well. Currency is (intentionally) rather artificial in value, relevant only because people recognize it as currency

@FEichinger There's actually very little risk in accepting bitcoin if you use a service to convert it to money at the time of sale (almost all businesses that "accept" bitcoin do this)

FEichinger

@BenBrocka Well, theoretically, "real" money still has "real" value backing it. Obviously that real value is a tiny fraction, but it's still there.

Powerlord

21:08

@FEichinger They used to be backed by precious metals, but that went away a while ago.

Ullallulloo

@FEichinger Not really since FDR took us off the gold standard.

It's basically like Bitcoins now.

Powerlord

Heck, British currency is still named after what used to back it.

Ben Brocka

Actually I wish we've move away from the "real" value backing it; gold has actual practical uses and I hate to see it rotting away as currency when it could be in glorious, corrosion-proof circuits. Similar to diamonds, humans liking shiny things fucks over the advancement of technology by overpricing raw materials

And if we start using silicon to back currency I'm just going to start stabbing economists

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka I hate how stupid expensive diamonds are.

FEichinger

Well, I oppose currency in general, simply because it's arbitrary as fuck.

StrixVaria

21:10

IT IS A ROCK

FEichinger

@StrixVaria Not to mention that it isn't rare either.

badp

@StrixVaria a rare shiny rock many people like and few people have

Ben Brocka

@FEichinger It should be arbitrary as fuck. It's very purpose is to be arbitrary as fuck

You need to have an abstract currency because barter is hilariously impractical on a large scale, much more so in a digital world

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka I'm pretty sure that when Ben Franklin invented money, that was his very thought.

Ullallulloo

@BenBrocka At the time, gold didn't have uses though.

badp

21:12

@StrixVaria wat

Ullallulloo

It was just a rare, pretty metal that was easy to make into coins.

Ben Brocka

@Ullallulloo yeah, it was just a shiny pretty, reasonably rare metal, easy to make coins and stuff out of too since it's soft. But now it's useful as hell hell but we're stuck with copper for most things

Though fortunately gold plating a wire gives the corrosion protection without the cost of making the whole wire gold, so it's not as bad as it could be

FEichinger

@BenBrocka Its purpose is to be a good like any other - albeit a persistent one, which is why it's used for value.

Ben Brocka

@FEichinger But still, it's arbitrary, it has to be arbitrary. There is no practical good which has equal value to everyone, so we need money to abstract away that difference

Powerlord

> In addition to explicitly legalizing cell phone unlocking, the Unlocking Technology Act of 2013 also modifies the DMCA to make clear that unlocking copy-protected content is only illegal if it's done in order to "facilitate the infringement of a copyright." If a circumvention technology is "primarily designed or produced for the purpose of facilitating noninfringing uses," that would not be a violation of copyright.

Wow, someone in the US government proposed actually FIXING the DMCA so it sucks less?

badp

21:26

@Powerlord where's the catch?

Powerlord

Notice how I didn't say "so it doesn't suck" though?

Ben Brocka

@Powerlord that's the impression I got from the EFF

badp

ah, it's just a proposal

Powerlord

@badp The catch is that it has to go through both houses yet, and lawmakers like to tack on amendments to bills...

badp

@Powerlord yeah, well, the 70's songs hole is still there

Ben Brocka

21:27

@Powerlord it's not a rewrite of the DMCA, just a fix of one of the clauses

Powerlord

@badp True, but that part wasn't part of the DMCA to begin with, but rather than 1976 update to copyright law

Granted, they could have just as easily fixed that.

badp

@Powerlord doesn't make the DMCA not suck

Powerlord

When I get home, I can't forget to test the force domination sounds plugin

Speaking of which, time to leave!

badp

later

fbueckert

And Righthaven is finally, completely dead.

Ben Brocka

21:36

@fbueckert linky

fbueckert

arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/05/…

SaintWacko

@Powerlord ...what does a "force domination sounds" plugin do...?

Do I want to know?

Ben Brocka

Oh right, I was hoping it was Prenda. Righthaven looked even more screwed than prenda so I'm more eagerly waiting on that one

Youtube launching paid channels

fbueckert

@BenBrocka There was an update on Prenda on Monday.

Ben Brocka

will be interested to see how many people actually sign up and pay though

For channels like mine I doubt it'd outpace ad earnings. Wonder if the whole channel is paywalled or you can be like "paid subscribers get access to more videos"

badp

21:43

@BenBrocka of course, they're all $unavailable

Ben Brocka

@badp really? I see prices when I go to the channel page

badp

@BenBrocka "This channel is unavailable in your country. Sorry about that"

Ben Brocka

Or is it a $HahaRegionNotSupported thing?

badp

I'm not surprised one bit

Ben Brocka

Figured

badp

21:45

Indeed the video page for one paid video doesn't say "Pay up", it just says "This video is not available in your country. Sorry about that."

Ben Brocka

Though come to think of it, I'd think channels should be able to allow global subscriptions, after all it's not the same someone using content ID to prevent X country from seeing Y, they're the one putting the content on youtube

Dunno though, maybe it's a legal pain in the ass. Lots of things are.

badp

meh, none of those channels seems appealing to me

Ben Brocka

yeah, lots of kid channels for some reason

fbueckert

Ah, Prenda, you keep on giving.

Ben Brocka

...did someone seriously make a sockpuppet named "Barach Obama" to run in the Math.SE election?

FEichinger

21:48

@BenBrocka GayDirect is very much a kid channel, yes.

fbueckert

A defense being made by a Prenda lawyer in Georgia is that Wright's order should not be heeded, and I'm not kidding, "Because California's legalized gay marriage"

Ben Brocka

But did they legalize gay direct marriage?

Grace Note

@BenBrocka No

fbueckert

Where does Prenda find these people!?

It's like anyone that works for the company gets infected by a crazy bug.

Ben Brocka

@fbueckert In 2013 Umbrella corporation began research on the Prenda Virus...

fbueckert

21:53

@BenBrocka Wouldn't surprise me.

Gotta shoot all infected, for the good of us all.

Time to go buy Peanut Butter M&M's!

Tim Stone

LAZERS. That is all.

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