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19:00
So the ship is from the lizard people
Or is that just what the reverse vampires want us to think?
@BenBrocka It's all an illuminati ploy to imprison us into the timecube
in a world where everybody speaks in Red Arial Black Bold 40 Pt
What are reverse vampires? Do they just blow blood at people and love jesus
and when you wanna scream, you must use Impact
We are all of us inside the timecube, 4 times simultaneously
@BenBrocka If it was a game it would be off-topic on The Bridge.
19:02
@ShotgunNinja The hats he bought are those marked as uncraftable.
@badp There are some things one doesn't joke about @badp
@BenBrocka Yeah... after all, everyone would speak in Red Helvetica Black Bold 40 Pt
How the f did I type that as 4o
@Powerlord HIPSTER!
@badp Oh hey a Huffington Post headline
What's it doing in The Bridge?
19:04
@badp I can't see this. Does it involve bacon?
@BenBrocka Impact Bold Italic 200pt
@badp That;s 200pt?
@BenBrocka Once you click through
oh right, chat shrinks it
@BenBrocka Click to embiggen.
19:05
I've been thinking: Bacon.
That is all.
Please appreciate the tasteful lack of antialiasing, or the tasteless application thereof. I can't tell whichever Paint uses.
Probably the latter.
It's like jagged in some places but not in others.
@badp Well it's an image, not text. And it's Paint
At best it uses Windows default AA
@BenBrocka mspaint is the tool of the postart artist
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Accept no substitutes.
Like, literally.
p.large {
font-size: 20px;
text-transform: capitalize;
font-family: TF2BuildTF2Build;
text-transform: uppercase;
padding-top: 0;
margin-top: 10px;
color: #fff;
}
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@OrigamiRobot who needs age 32 when you can have age 33?
user43095
19:14
Also, I know how to get a linking book of that
user43095
What's that mean?
@jeffreylin_ They don't let me have linking books any more. Not since my brother and I... well, never mind.
@badp wow
Gotta love how they just have it posted on this site with no mention of a copyright status
19:21
A Linking Book of chat would be horrifying. You click an irreverent .gif and suddenly you are THERE and the Spy is tapdancing on your head and slapping you with large fish
@BenBrocka I guess it's part of their elaborate campaign to get themselves noticed
@BenBrocka How large does the fish need to be?
@Powerlord Well, it's a free font.
Depends on the server settings
@FEichinger The wiki is editable by anyone. That doesn't mean Valve licensed those fonts out for use
19:30
It's like seeing directly into @badp's mind
My fortress is teetering on the edge of a tantrum spiral
@Powerlord I'm saying that they're probably under the same license as for the rest of Valve's public assets. And since they haven't objected to a free upload that is linked from one of their official resources - which they should at least be monitoring - that seems likely.
Yeesh, speaking of fortresses, this code block in Freak Fortress 2 is... weird.
I thought I had pulled it back from the edge... maybe not, though
It's for bosses with multiple lives, and it loops with i being between 1 and the number of lives and then checks if BossHealth[index]-damage < BossHealthMax[index]*i
19:35
I forgot an essential part
@badp Bacon?
please forgive me
@Powerlord The killfeed notification for being fished
Argh so many berserking dorfs
@Powerlord ...if you really want to see my postart, I'll happily oblige with a mirror.
@badp Given that my work blocks imgur, you really think they're not going to block dropbox too?
19:39
@Powerlord I can try
Oh! I know. I'll post it on 4chan. I'm sure that won't be filtered.
It's going to go very well.
@Powerlord but then... who was phone index?
...is it the boss ID?
@badp index is the boss index.
Which are numbered from 0.
Can't you make proper structs in whatever bastardization that thing has to use?
I've always wondered who the r/scifi logo is suppose to be. It looks like Asimov, but I can't be sure.
@badp You think SourcePawn has proper structs? How cute!
Too bad it doesn't.
The previous one, the girl, looks like Olivia from Fringe, but that's quite unlikely
19:45
Freak Fortress 2 holds onto multiple Valve KeyValues Handles simply because they're the closest thing SourcePawn has to real structs.
I think I've finally had a chance to play Freak Fortress 2; is it the one with the 3-lived spy with the bullshit time slowing mechanic? Because that's bullshit.
Also, just finished Diamond Dogs by Alastair Reynolds. Fantastic book, probably the reason why I can't sleep right now...
sorry cat is climbing me
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Q: CSS Theme roller

madhairsilenceHow to design a theme roller kind of thing in css How to change the color theme of a website with less effort? If i follow a primary , secondary and tertiary color pattern.

I was hoping this was going on a "how is CSS formed. How jQuery get Themeroller" angle
she's also dangerously close to flagging somebody's message with her butt. Be very careful
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19:48
@BenBrocka Three questions for the price of one!
Quote of the day that I just saw on DailyWTF:
> I can't count the number of times Mercurial has given me a unicorn without a useful error message.
Useful error messages are overrated
Take SQL servers syntax errors
I really wish "You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual" was a joke.
@badp "You have a syntax error on line 1 of <the entire query>"
@YiJiang'sEvilClone "SYNTAX ERROR PLEASE KILL YOURSELF IMMEDIATELY"
19:53
@YiJiang'sEvilClone That's why you don't have single line queries.
@FEichinger so that the server can get the error line number off by one?
(Classic C gotcha... well, C and anything that uses separators between instructions ever I suppose)
@badp EXACTLY! :P
@FEichinger Doesn't quite work when you're not writing the query by hand
Redo from start?
(Favorite Commodore 64 error EVAR!)
19:57
@badp That's not a surprise, Commodore used Microsoft Basic on the C64 and C128.
Is Microsoft QuickBasic a thing that anybody uses?
@Powerlord Oh? I wasn't aware.
The Commodore 128 even mentions Microsoft by name on startup
I guess I should say, then, QuickBasic has that still.
> Microsoft has confirmed this to be a bug in QuickBasic versions 4.00, 4.00b, and 4.50 (buglist4.00, buglist4.00b, buglist4.50); with Microsoft Basic Compiler versions 6.00 and 6.00b; and with Microsoft Basic Professional Development System (PDS) versions 7.00 and 7.10 for MS-DOS and MS OS/2. We are researching this problem and will post new information here in the Microsoft Knowledge Base as it becomes available.
@badp No, Microsoft went other directions with Basic after that.
Visual Basic is a third-generation event-driven programming language and integrated development environment (IDE) from Microsoft for its COM programming model first released in 1991. Visual Basic is designed to be relatively easy to learn and use. Visual Basic was derived from BASIC and enables the rapid application development (RAD) of graphical user interface (GUI) applications, access to databases using Data Access Objects, Remote Data Objects, or ActiveX Data Objects, and creation of ActiveX controls and objects. The scripting language VBScript is a subset of Visual Basic. A progr...
Yep! I'm holding my breath all right.
I'm sure there's an old, forgotten, 80yo lab rat in a forgotten room in the Microsoft campus that is still running MS OS/2 to figure out his 892nd proposed fix doesn't work there.
The cleaning staff offer him food occasionally, given that he's after all clean and polite and can offer some smart small talk at the end of the shift.
Yes, this is most likely a thing that is real and is happening right now.
20:02
Retired KB Content Disclaimer
This article was written about products for which Microsoft no longer offers support. Therefore, this article is offered "as is" and will no longer be updated.
@badp Bartleby the VB Programmer.
@JasonBerkan They could've written it in smaller type.
@badp There's a link at the top of the article.
I mean, it's a small bug that crashes your entire fucking program if your finger slips onto a symbol key as you press Enter. Who cares.
@JasonBerkan Then the blame is on me for being completely blind to it.
@badp You're seriously complaining about a support article from a programming language no one has used for over a decade?
20:05
@JasonBerkan I'm not serious, I'm not complaining, I'm just wondering aloud
although, seriously, legacy systems do exist and are the reason why COBOL programmers are so handsomely (reportedly?) paid nowadays.
Everyone tells storys of the programmers making buckets of money intentionally getting into obsolete and terrible languages but I sure haven't met any of them
user20683
20:21
@BenBrocka that's because they tend to be squirreled away in megacorps
user20683
they make buckets for a while
I've worked at some places with legacy systems - the COBOL stuff is often given to the most junior programmers because no one wants to deal with it, and the business has a billion test cases to ensure they don't f@#! the code up.
user20683
but if the company downsizes they get chunked
I have a hard time trusting all the stats around COBOL. I'm sure some banks and such still have that crap running, but the "80% of all code is COBOL" just sounds like a massive pile of shit
user20683
@BenBrocka most of the people I know who work at banks work in Java
20:25
@BenBrocka Probably was true at one point, but with the rise of the web, I seriously doubt it is true now.
UBS runs COBOL
or, at least, they did a year ago
@JasonBerkan I seriously doubt any one programing language was more than 80% of all code written since the 80s or earlier
The actual article claiming that seems to have gone poof though
...like all claims about COBOL facts, it seems
user20683
@BenBrocka COBOL facts needs to be a meme
20:28
People seem to think COBOL is huge because people told them COBOL is huge
@BenBrocka I guess COBOL is just 800× more verbose than everything else
COBOL is the Paris Hilton of programming languages
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@BenBrocka All the legacy systems I've seen have been COBOL. Not a great sample, but it implies that most of the business code at one point in history was written in COBOL.
user20683
@JasonBerkan that or Basic
@WorldEngineer The green and blinking is a wonderful touch
20:33
@fredley do you know anything about forge?
> (c) <DATE OVERFLOW>
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bwahaha
@Ender for Minecraft?
oui
Damn my big meat fingers
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Q: Can't survive the night

clorzSo I'm playing latest version of better than wolves mod for Minecraft on easy difficulty and can not survive a single night. What am I doing wrong? I'm not dying of hunger, but from mobs. Mostly archers. And there doesn't seem to be enough time to build any kind of shelter with a light source. On...

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Q: How do i increase the capacity of my university?

ReinholdI am stuck with an absolute maximum of 1800 students i can force in my university, but i need 2000 to get the desired upgrade. The problem is, that the capacity of the university is only 1300 students. I already bulldozed all my community colleges, which pushed the number up to the already menti...

20:35
@Ender - Quelle est votre question?
@BenBrocka onwebkitkeyadded
Is it time to go home yet?
@Powerlord I'm right there with you. I said I'd stay until 5... T~T
I need the money, but I don't want the work...
@ShotgunNinja I'm here until 5:30pm EDT
optifine says its compatible with forge #608
does that mean future forge updates are a nogo?
@Jason
20:44
Today's Windows 8 Story: Skype
@fredley ?
I'm at home, on my Dad's new W8 laptop, my girlfriend, who is in Malaysia, emails me saying she's got a few moments, can we Skype?
'No problem', I say, and proceed to download it
I try to download it, and am redirected to the Windows Store, which takes a while to load up
> Skype for Windows 8 looks differnt
20:45
However, I can't just install it, I need a Microsoft account
> differnt
> ernt
This not being my computer, I don't want to associate my MS account with it, so I attempt to set one up
It requires date of birth, postcode, and full name
@Ender Possibly. It would depend upon what functionality OptiFine is relying on. However, the bigger mods get updated fairly quickly whenever something they rely on changes (either in Minecraft or in a modding tool).
At this point I gave up, and after some searching around found a W7 download that worked just fine.
STUPID WINDOWS 8
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
20:48
@Ender - And I doubt Forge would introduce mod-breaking changes in a point release.
user15026
@ShotgunNinja They forgot an e in there
@AshleyNunn Naw, they just spell it differntly.
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user15026
@GraceNote twitches
If it makes you feel better, I cringed just as much just to write that.
Woo, grammar Nazis!
user20683
20:50
To the EL&U Mobile!
WOOOOOOOOOOOO~
user20683
Also I have two Runner2 25 off thingies
user15026
@GraceNote That does make me feel better
user20683
Not sure I even want it
@AshleyNunn Let this be the first time that someone has actually felt better when I said those words, as opposed to having their willpower crushed even further.
20:52
@GraceNote Spel Differnt
Microsoft - Refusing to use their own spellchecker since 1975.
@AshleyNunn So, 999 is lost forever then?
@WorldEngineer I suppose all Runner2 owners do have them. I guess I'll simply use my usual approach and gift them to unwilling recipients
user20683
@badp I own Runner 1 and Beat
@WorldEngineer On Steam? Same
user20683
20:55
I'm also really bad at runner 1
I only got Runner 1 because of the humble bundles
Aw. I can't use my usual approach. I must trade it to a willing recipient. Goddammit
willing? That takes half the fun out of it
@badp Fun fact: You can refuse a gift on Steam.
@Powerlord None of my randomly selected recipients have, only Jin is ignoring it right now
unless refusing gifts uses up the gift in the process.
Jin like literally has 2 games on Steam, he might now have been on
@Powerlord I just accept them, act grateful and regift them
20:59
@BenBrocka Yes, you can do that now that you have the option to put it in your Steam inventory.
My fortress had 130 dorfs before the spiral started
it's down to 50 now
user15026
@Powerlord starting to think so which sucks big
@AshleyNunn Did you get Luigi's Mansion yet?
is in the ClockWorks now
@Powerlord The inventory's a neat way to do it
I'm finding that I'm starting to dislike the game's mission setup, though.
21:02
@Powerlord I'm still on the second mansion, second to last level
@BenBrocka ClockWorks is the third mansion, and the next time I'm there I'll be on its fifth mission.
The missions dumb it down a bit IMO. Juuust a bit too short. And require too much backtracking
@Powerlord I honestly don't care if that happens. I actually have traded my "new community beta invites" to my alt account because they bother me that much.
I think they all have 5 missions + 1 boss at this rate
What I find MOST annoying about the missions is that if you miss gems, you HAVE to go complete a mission after finding them.
@badp Why did those never go away anyway?
21:03
You do? Huh. I hoped you could just quit
@Powerlord No idea, honestly.
That "beta" ended like a year ago.
@BenBrocka Nope, the gems aren't recorded if you do.
@Powerlord ack. And I thought it was annoying to have that Portal coupon for 2 years
finally found someone who did'nt have Portal
Which is really irritating in mansion three, mission three as there's one gem that, if you leave the room it's in without exploring the entire room, you can't go back there.
You can go back to the room, but it has one of those idiotic ghost gates that doesn't go away.
@BenBrocka I gifted it immediately and the recipient ignored it. After two or three years I just gave it away on steamgifts
21:05
I'm not sure which Portal coupon you mean.
Oh, geez
Oh yeah, speaking of Steam Gifts, I need to see if my cousin ever redeemed the Portal 1 + 2 pack I gifted to him.
Of my now 42 dwarves, 15 are useful adults, 22 are children, and 5 are babies
Well, shit
A handful of migrants arrived, and were promptly ambushed and slaughtered >.<
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Q: Why is everyone trying to ram me?

AubergineSo I was trying to steal a muscle car during one of the side-missions available through Saintsbook, but while driving the car back to the chop shop something rather peculiar happened. Each and every car on the road veered into my path just as I was about to pass it, making it amazingly difficult ...

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Q: How to bind steam client to a different IP address?

DannySo I have 2 network cards, and multiple networks (VPN, etc). What I want to do is bind steam client to one of my IPs, and bypass my VPN (because lag). I checked all the steam settings and launching options but I don't see anything related to what I want to do. Any ideas? I'm using the Windows ...

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Q: Problems installing the Ultimate Vault Hunters pack with season pass

user177012I bought the season pass for BL2. I can see all of the other DLCs that have installed but I do not see the "Borderlands 2: Ultimate Vault Hunters Upgrade Pack" that has the level cap increase. Can someone tell me how to figure out if it installed?

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Q: What happens to caged animals in an abandoned fortress?

SaintWackoMy fortress seems to be heading for a tantrum spiral, and I'm not sure there's anything I can do to stop it. I have six Faedogs in my fortress, as well as a golden goose, and I would rather not lose them if the fortress falls. The wiki states that upon reclaiming a fortress, all livestock will be...

@Lazers Run it with -ip something? That's how Valve's dedicated servers do it.
user15026
21:13
@Powerlord Yeah, I am working on the first bos
@AshleyNunn Want a hint? Bacon.
Attack with bacon for massive damage
@Lazers The dildo bat just seemed inviting.
just two more SR3 questions and I get my SR3 badge. cmon arqade, you can do it!
I'm torn. I agree on "Get some fucking perspective, people.", but EA is still EA, and the examples are still stupid ...
21:17
Someone should add to the chat room description.
Luigi needs to hum more in Dark Moon.
He hummed a lot more in the original than he does in Dark Moon. :(
user20683
Woo Endless Space :D
@FEichinger It just reads as "lol other people are even more bad and also you saying we're bad means we're good GO TEAM"
@Powerlord The humming was pretty awesome
Also, does anyone remember the Luigi's Mansion commercial?
I also miss yelling Marrrrio? Mario? MARRRIOOOOOO?
21:19
@BenBrocka btw, press the control pad keys... ;D
While it's not Marrrrio, he does yell "Hello?"
@BenBrocka As I said, I fully agree that they are nowhere near the Worst Company of America. But pretending they were great and the recent major complaints are toootally unfounded ... that's where I lose respect for EA yet again. Delusional like hell, they are.
user15026
@BenBrocka That was one of my favourite little bits of the first game
@Powerlord I know, one of the first things I tried. Still not the same though
> Many continue to claim the Always-On function in SimCity is a DRM scheme. It’s not. People still want to argue about it. We can’t be any clearer – it’s not. Period.
Didn't someone already show the game is completely playable without an online connection?
With a small hack, that is?
21:20
@Powerlord hax
HAX
@Powerlord They left debug mode enterable with the console.
> And lastly, we love your licences more than we love EA, never forget that.
Hotfixed it out though once that was discovered.
EA desperately needs to remember that when they pull this shit
@Powerlord I'd just like them to either admit it for once, or give a clear, concise and reasonable explanation why it is not. "It's an MMO!" is not reasonable.
In fact, it isn't even an MMO.
EA has this habit of misusing words. "Indie" comes to mind.
21:28
@FEichinger they also disabled a bunch of the multiplayer features IIRC, not sure if they're back yet
@BenBrocka Also some single player features
Reminder: I have an Origin account because I was registered with EA multiplayer services through Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit (Steam) and Need for Speed: World (not Origin). I never once even installed Origin.
Such as playing on a higher speed.
@Ullallulloo the Cheeta speed thing sounds like hell
So yeah, that "45 million registered users" claim? ...pretty much bullshit.
21:29
@badp It's bullshit anyway, I bet less than half of those users would exist if their games weren't exclusive to Origin
@badp They deleted my EADM account because I didn't upgrade to Origin in time, as far as I can tell. At least they find none of my mail addresses on their password reset syste.
@badp I probably have one because of Spore.
And yeah, many of their multiplayer features require the origin account, even on consoles where you're supposed to already have the only account you need
@BenBrocka Portal 2 did that even though.
Oh hey, what's that I see on my desktop?! Is it a time that's (just past) going home time?
21:31
Then Ubisoft has Uplay on consoles.
@Ullallulloo they also had crossplatform coop
@BenBrocka oh yeah
@Ullallulloo Oddly, not on the Xbox 360.
Actually, having not had the PS3 version, was that even a requirement?
@Ullallulloo they also made it pretty easy by letting you make a steam account via a PS3 account...I think. I didn't actually have the PS3 version
Or was it optional and only if you wanted to play with Steam users?
21:32
@BenBrocka I have it, just haven't played it yet.
@Ullallulloo You monster
@BenBrocka And I guess it gave you PC copy.
I know the Steam login thing on the PC/Mac version even has a button for if you own Portal 2 for PS3.
@Ullallulloo Did it? I was hoping the Steam one would let me download it on PS3 but that didn't seem to work
21:34
@BenBrocka It's cuz my brother and I were going to play it together, and he has a job and not much time.
@BenBrocka It came with a Steam key.
@Ullallulloo The co op is different from the single player, may as well play SP
The PS3 needs a disc or PSN code though.
@BenBrocka Yeah, I just need to download it.
Oh right, going home time.
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Fuck me sideways. Lesson of the day? When you drop a 9x9 pyrex off the top of your fridge, it will likley shatter into a bajillion peices, none of which are bigger than a canadian two dollar coin
21:36
@AshleyNunn o.0
@AshleyNunn Shattered Pyrex is a pain to clean up.
@BenBrocka lol
@AshleyNunn T~T
user15026
@JasonBerkan Yes, yes it is. :(
@BenBrocka is that fight what I think it is?
The super famous one when he had to counter all the hits in that special attack to survive and then did his own super-mega-awesome-something and won?
user20683
21:40
that guy's voice is like nails on a chalkboard
@badp Fucking magic pixel
@badp I dunno, just something Twitter showed me
It's probably a 'shop...
...it's the same guy of the video @StrixVaria linked about
unless it's homonyms
@badp Justin Wong is a beast.
He wins all the tournaments for Street Fighter and MvC.
21:48
@StrixVaria well he lost in this one anyway :P
That SF one is nuts, though.
user43095
@RonanForman or @fredley forgot some stuff from old miner: a chunk loader and a transposer.
user43095
Also, what about chunk resets? It turns out Twilight Forest doesn't agree with Enderchests.
@badp That was beautiful
@murgatroid99 also, it's the same gameplay as in the gif that started the discussion
so I was right all along! Ha!
21:58
@badp Yeah, I can tell
@murgatroid99 I couldn't until after I watched the video on PAR five or so times.
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