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4:01 PM
@Retrosaur haha thats pretty cool.
so rechargable batteries, do we think they will be charged?
 
@fredley when i forward the port, the iP address I put in is my personal IP, not my public correct?
 
@Ender It's your LAN IP not your WAN IP
 
when port forwarding, that is correct normally
 
@fredley which is which?
 
Shoul be something like 25525 -> 192.168.1.13:25525
TCP
 
4:07 PM
the ip you see entered is my IPv4 given to me by cmd
@fredley hello?
 
One thing this winter of excessive snowing taught me is that's the easiest way to put a period to a day when you realise it's 2am and you aren't feeling sleepy is noticing snow fell on your home alley
 
@Ender Looks ok
 
Except its not
 
Nothing like a satisfying five-minute workout for that feel-good, feel-tired feeling :P
 
@Ender Check the IP against your router's DHCP table
 
4:14 PM
@fredley what?
<--- Gamer , not networking expert. lol
 
@Ender Well see that dropdown of Computer Name, select your computer from that
 
@Ender what's the first number in your public ip?
 
how is he doing port forwarding if he can't access his router?
 
I can access my router just fine @dj
168
 
@djsmiley2k by not reading through the backlog properly
 
4:17 PM
ah ok
badp good job on removing tht there
 
@Ender still, have you set up static DHCP so that your computer always gets the same LAN ip?
 
@Ender Is that number from a webpage or what your router reports?
 
is that what you mean?
@cruel my 168 ip is what i get from CMD
 
Wait what? The first part is 192 right?
 
o_O
yeah gonna say, if your in the C range, 168 as the first segment doesn't work
infact I'm guessing 192.168.1.10 or near enough
 
4:21 PM
192.168.x.xxx.
yea
my mistake
 
a good way to see if your port forwarding is working is doing the sheilds up scan on grc.com
or tell me your public IP and I'll just nmap you.
 
But what I really meant was the public IP the router reports. It should have a stats page or something. With public ip or wan ip
 
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Q: What's the most appropriate category of ship for each mission level?

TZHXI'm returning to EVE Online after a fairly long break, and looking to get back into combat missions. I've been trying to run Level 2 missions in my Dominix, with most of my DPS coming from drones. However, it seems that the types of drones I have can't contend with the quick ships of the enemies...

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Q: Minecraft - Two servers, two subdomains, two ports, don't want to type in :port to connect

Tillman32I have two minecraft servers, on sub-domains. www.server1.example.com and www.server2.example.com. server1 is port 25565, server2 is port 25566. When users want to connect to a non-default port in minecraft, they have to specify www.server2.example.com:25566 to connect to the server. On the def...

 
I applaud your microsoft paint
 
4:23 PM
Freehand circles need work though
 
@Ender Actually it's SnippingTool.exe
 
lol
 
C[an we get some people to close this question?
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Q: How do you obtain the grisly pointman title in Borderlands 2

user38999I have had the POINTMAN class mod for about 10 levels and i wanted to change it to GRISLY POINTMAN but i don't know how. I have heard that you must add skill bonuses that come with POINTMAN to last ditch effort but i do not have that option. Could someone please tell me EXACTLY how to obtain the ...

 
So basically if I want to host a service on Delta, I bind the port to 192.168.0.220
 
@badp so what am i doing here?
ok
hold on
 
4:26 PM
@Retrosaur I love when the answer starts with "This has already been covered here and here." <--- Then stop writing an answer and cast a dupe vote.
 
@Ender You're telling the router "yo, whenever you see this MAC address (which is my computer's network card's), always give it this IP address"
 
yea i understand the concept of static IPS, but I dont have that option
 
@Fluttershy I don't know what kalina was thinking there. I assumed she casted close votes, but they probably faded away
 
let me show you what I just did
 
@Ender oh. sucks
 
4:27 PM
@badp Could you help close it?
 
It's closed.
 
i think its auto static on my menu, and thats why its not mentioning it @badp
 
no static IP?S
urgh
set the IP on the computer, outside of the DHCP range, and hope the router isn't too stupid.
 
"Use this section to configure the built-in DHCP Server to assign IP addresses to the computers on your network"
is what it says, so I'm assuming it's auto static
but i really dont see what ANY of this has to do with the fact that my port fowarding isnt working
 
5
Q: Best place to farm money in Borderlands 2

SeanThere are several "badass rank" challenges that involve hoarding money or using money to buy weapons. Where are the most effective places to farm or make money in Pandora?

Can we also close this question for subjectvitiy?
*subjectivity
Best is an extremely subjective approach to this
There is no "best place" per say in BL2 to farm money
 
4:44 PM
@Retrosaur That question is fine, since it's good subjective.
If you want him to clarify it a bit you're welcome to, but for farming money it obviously means which area will allow you to gather money at the fastest rate.
 
But you can gather money anywhere at exceedingly fast rates.
For example, killing bosses may net you a lot of money, but to kill them takes time
Where as killing mobs and mobs of enemies is quick, but the payoff is low
 
And where is asking for areas and methods which yield the most money in the shortest time.
 
....
so theres no place to quickly kill bosses, or no bosses you can farm?
theres no place to quickly kill mobs / easily?
Does it depend on your play style?
And "No" is a valid answer.
 
@djsmiley2k Yes.
 
however if you close it, someone else will juyst ask again.
and the site never improves.
 
4:50 PM
Just because you can farm all areas equally well, without using any special tactics, doesn't mean the quesiton is invalid and should be closed.
 
/me is getting sad at all the "close this!!!!" that he see's
makes me not want to bother asking :/
Such as when is the best time to start xp farming in star ocean 4. Should I wait until I'm doing the final dungeons, or should I start right now on the second disk (as I can build the equipment now).
 
@djsmiley2k That is an attitude we are aware of, and is very problematic.
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Q: A Close Vote is not a Super-Downvote. Please don't use it as one

LessPop_MoreFizzSo, yesterday a dumb question was asked.. It was closed as Not A Real Question in less than an hour, and reopened mere minutes later. This isn't the first time that this has happened. It usually results in lots of arguing and acrimony and generally all comes out of a simple misunderstanding. The...

@LessPop_MoreAwesome wrote an awesome meta post on that.
People are too quick to try and close terrible questions. Terrible != Close though, terrible == down vote.
 
@Wipqozn glad "we" are aware of it (who's we btw). However I'm just remarking on what I've seen in teh short time I'm here...
 
@djsmiley2k We meaning the active meta users.
 
Unanswerable questions should be closed. Bad questions should be fixed..... right?
 
4:53 PM
@djsmiley2k Well, sort of.
 
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Q: Capturing all outposts in Far Cry 3?

FendiI have noticed that capturing outposts in FC3 removes the random spawn of enemies in the game. What happens if I clear out all the outposts in the game ? (I'm still in the second main quest, so haven't progressed a lot). Will the enemies disappear completely from the whole game ?? Will I be stuck...

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Q: Can melee damage deal critical hits?

RetrosaurCan melee damage deal critical hits? For example, if you aim for the head, can you do "headshots" with a melee attack?

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Q: Minecraft how to be hidden on a server

userIs there a way to be on a server but the players don't know that you are online?

 
If a question is unanswerable it should be closed, yes. Bad questions should be fixed if they can be, yes. However, if a question is close-worthy in it's current form but can be fixed it should be closed until it is fixed. Basically, closing and re-opening should both be swift. The idea is that we don't want people posting answers to a question which will be changed, and also since we don't want to leave questions open for the OP to fix only for them to never visit the site again and the...
...question remains open.
Also, if a question is bad and can't be fixed, that doesn't mean we close it. Some questions are just terrible, but still fit within the scope fo the site.
Closing is really meant to be a temporary state (Except for duplicates). Ultimately, any question which is closed should either be fixed and re-opened, or deleted.
 
@fredley @badp ok ive been forum trolling and others with the same issue say its their modem. I've found my modems information and am attempting to foward the same port on my modem
 
@Ender :(
 
5:01 PM
this is such a fuckin headache
 
@Ender Oh, you didn't say you had a separate modem :-P
 
ARRGDSGJADKLFJADSKLFJADSKDS
@fredley ^
 
a modem that filters? DOES NOT COMPUTE.
IS NOT A MODEM.
 
@Wipqozn A question that is unfixably bad - or unfixed bad - is why we can delete questions to begin with
 
@badp Yeah, I left that special case out.
 
5:02 PM
/me votes for a fight.
 
Not close worthy, but complete crap.
Deleting those questions months down the road is perfectly fine.
 
eh. "WILL PS4 DO BLURAY?" is my example for swift deletion
 
ok thats my modems port fowarding entry thingy
should i put 25565 in all boxes?
 
@badp Yeah, but that's also close worthy and is obivously never going to be fixed.
 
5:04 PM
"yes" :D
 
I just meant questions which shouldn't be closed, but are just Terrible. I don't think we should be deleting them right away, but a few months down the road, after the OP has received their answer, there is no harm in deleting it.
@djsmiley2k It actually falls under speculation about the future of the industry, and is thus off-topic.
The problem being that information can change from now until release.
 
@Ender Minecraft uses port 25565, so that is the port to forward, yes.
 
in all 3 boxes?
 
Even if the company says a console will have a certain feature doesn't mean it will. Look at the PS3 Boomerang. They changed that back pretty quickly.
 
That interface is terrible, though.
 
5:05 PM
its from to and then to again
 
You probably don't need to specify "through port".
 
err from, through, to
 
I'm hardly a master of networks, though.
I touch my router as infrequently as possible.
 
@Wipqozn Sony have confirmed specs.... wheres the speculation?
6x Bluray drive.
 
this is the resulting page, the 'computer' listed is my routher
 
5:07 PM
@Wipqozn Which feature didn't the PS3 ship with?
 
so my modem is fowarding teh port to my router, and my router is fowarding it to my computer, yes?
 
@Ender Oh are you behind multiple routers?
 
@djsmiley2k The problem is that it could still change between now and release. Sony could suddenly decide "You know what? We really should go with a 7x Bluray drive."
 
im behind 1 router and 1 modem
 
@Wipqozn You also better close the simcity questions too, as so far people have said "for future games, you go on the current infomation and update as relevent"
 
5:07 PM
@djsmiley2k The controller changed between announcement and release.
 
@Wipqozn and simcity might NOT require a online connection when it gets released.
 
@Ender That sounds like it should work but my expertise ends with just 1 relay.
 
So.... theres a problem here.
Game questions are fine to be updated, but not console ones?
 
@djsmiley2k The difference is that people are asking about the beta, and not the full release.
 
@Ender Yes
 
5:08 PM
@Wipqozn hmmm, no, they aren't
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Q: Can I play SimCity on two computers at the same time?

leolobatoI'm not familiar with Origin's DRM (or the one that will be used on the next SimCity), but if I got the game, would I and my girlfriend be able to play it at the same time, each on their own computer at home, or would we need two separate Origin accounts and buy the game twice?

 
@djsmiley2k Do you have a link then? Because in that case, the question may need to be closed. Also, to be fair, betas are a grey area.
 
@Wipqozn What about dev boxes? ;)
Another fun grey area.
 
@djsmiley2k Like I said, betas are tricky.
And by tricky I mean a huge pain in the ass.
 
@Wipqozn a few days / week ago this simcity question kept being discussed.
 
hey guys! guess what!?
my port's still closed -.-
 
5:10 PM
Should we allow beta question? If so, only public ones? What about closed ones? et cetera...
 
The impression give at the time was you answer to the best of your ability, and then if it changes then you'll update it in the future.
It's like there's two sides at war here :/
 
@djsmiley2k You'll notice that question was actually closed and re-opened.
 
OH GOD THAT AVATAR D:
 
@djsmiley2k WEll, yes, that's kind of how it is. There are issues that the community is divided on, which often just result in close/reopen wars.
 
\o/ wikipedia. :/
Oh lord I forgot how long some sequences are in this game
The controller just turned off it's been that long since I pressed anything :D
 
5:13 PM
ok my routers IP is the same IP i type into my browser to access its settings correct?
@badp @fredley
 
@Ender No
 
yes
 
@Ender normally yes.
its 192.168.0.1 according to the pages you posted earlier.
 
No no no
 
ok i sense some disagreement here
 
5:13 PM
Not from the perspective of the modem
 
Oh no,
:D
 
What is your modem's IP
 
then its the public side....
 
Oh, right, separate modem and router
that's always fun
 
10.0.0.2?
 
5:14 PM
I never used that so I'll tune out
 
192.168.178.1 is my modem
 
Your router, from the modem's perspective will be 10.0.0.3 or something. Look it up in the modem's DHCP table
Ok, in your modem settings, find the DHCP table
 
Does your router show you a WAN or WEB or PUBLIC ip/interface anywhere?
Double natt'ed, urgh.
 
It's NATs all the way down
 
5:16 PM
@Ender Your router is probably 192.168.178.2 or something
 
puu.sh/27FaYi found this
is that what i'm lookin for?
 
@Ender I cannot see this.
 
@Ender WTF. Ok, yes that looks like it
 
so how do i knwo which is my routher?
nm found it
standby
 
5:21 PM
Who the hell's hands are these designed for?
I'm imagining a designer with 15 fingers on each hand frustrated with the Dual Shock 3
 
FML its still closed
 
@BenBrocka Since we're linking terrible controllers...
 
ok listen
since my modem changes everything
do i need to put in the IPs as my MODEM sees them everywhere? including in my router settings?
 
I think it is easier if you draw it out
 
huh
 
5:24 PM
@Ender What do you mean
The topology goes like this:
 
@Wipqozn At least the giant parts actually have controls. I have large hands and I could fit my entire hands on the grips of those two controllers
 
I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but if you're trying to host a server you need to set up a static IP.
 
I have a static ip
 
Your modem has a private network, in which the only two devices are the modem and router
the router has a network for everything else that is separate
the modem shouldn't have a clue what is connected to the router
 
ok my modem has port 25565 forwarded to my routers IP as my modem sees it
my router has the same port forwarded to my computers IP as my router sees it
my port remains closed however.
GO
 
5:27 PM
reboot everything? ;/
 
serously?
like kill the power to my modem and router and see what happens?
?
 
I meant like this
(both public ip and modem IP to router aren't very interesting)
 
@badp if you're providing tech support, it's worth noting that many ISPs provide a combined box for both router and modem, removing the two boxes in the middle and combining them in one
 
@kalina I think it's been established that he has a modem and a separate router
 
@badp shrug, I'm just jumping into the conversation like normal
 
5:37 PM
my ISP provided a DSL modem that doubles as a router, but because of its location in my house, i was forced to provide my own additional router to hook up my devices, which are all in a different room
so i have INTERNET------> Modem\Router----->Router-----Computer
my modem has port 25565 forwarded to my routers IP as my modem sees it
my router has the same port forwarded to my computers IP as my router sees it
my port remains closed however.
In my closing statement. NETWORKING SUCKS
anybody?
 
@Ender From what you've done, it should work
What port are you checking?
on another note, you didn't need another router, Just a switch
 
5:54 PM
@dj I know but I owned a router, so i used it
25565
ARQADE YOU HAVE FAILED ME!
NOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO!!!
 
@Ender Firewall?
 
No
 
Only thing you can do for testing is yank the router out of the way, and see if the modem is actually forwarding the port.
 
or tell me your public IP and which port
what service are you trtying to run?
 
@Fredley gave me a website that checks he port
 
6:04 PM
@Ender Try SU
 
i'm attempting to run a minecraft server off my hom ebox
 
grc.com sheilds up test
 
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Q: How do the different sizes of modules compare to eachother?

EnigmaIs there an equivalency between some number of small modules and medium/large/huge? Does 3 small modules equal, in terms of effect/damage, a large perhaps? 2 a medium? Perhaps it scales instead?

0
Q: What if I don't kill the Enthralled Wizards during the Morokei quest?

Steve V.I'm searching for the Staff of Magnus. I seem to have found it, because I've walked into a room with a guy trapped in a barrier by two Enthralled Wizards. Not being a total idiot, I decided to poke around a bit before doing anything rash. I was able to sneak around to the exit door and get a cu...

 
6:16 PM
Oh FTL. Why do you always drop the wrong stuff
 
@fredley Have you been working on the snow map?
 
@cruelcow i one found a store with a preigniter and a glaive beam and a stealth system in the same roll
i had 10 scrap
i was soooooo pissed
 
I just found a hull laser and a glaive beam. On a ship that is 100% optimised for boarding. My weapon system is lvl1
 
LOL
 
hull laser 2 I should say
 
6:36 PM
@RonanForman I did a bit of work on the lights
ANd maybe built some things
I was a bit drunk
 
@fredley What's with the weird pillars?
@fredley That explains it.
 
@RonanForman Not sure. Remove if you don't like.
Oh yeah, and snowmen
I want to play these maps
 
@fredley We could maybe play tonight if we have enough people around
 
Well, after finally grinding enough fights, Fire Emblem's difficulty is slightly easier to climb.
 
@RonanForman I'm busy later I'm afraid
 
6:47 PM
@ronan i researched FTB a bit and thats just a big oll hell no for me and the wife
minecrafts complicated enough as it is
 
Vaike's a freaking aggro magnet.
 
7:06 PM
Thought you might enjoy that.
 
Woo! Networking success!
 
7:31 PM
...Having to restart a fight because a random opponent managed to come through with a 3% crit chance is annoying.
 
@fbueckert Ah, Crit chance. How it's awesome when you get a crit, and the worst feature ever when the AI does.
 
I lost a fight due to the enemy boss getting a different 3% crit chance on Chrom. It sucked, because he was the last one left alive, too.
So I had it in the bag.
And then he pulls a crit. And I lose.
 
Clearly you should just never play the game again.
In which case you mine as well just give me the game.
 
7:47 PM
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Q: More agony resistance from infusions

tonWith Fine Infusions such as as Precise Infusion, you just double-click it and apply to the ascended ring, right? However, can you add more infusions to the infused ring which results to +10 AR (+5 & +5)? Is it possible? I'm asking this because I'm wondering how people got 40+ etc. AR. How ca...

 
@fbueckert This is relevant to my interests.
 
8:20 PM
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Q: Can I pick items up without unequipping my tool?

Ben BrockaI often need to pick up items while I still have a tool out for some reason, particularly when chopping down trees or tending to crops. So far the only way I've found to pick up items is to press Y to put away my tool, then press A to pick items up. Can I pick items up without unequipping my too...

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Q: How do I change gears in the NAMCO home version of the old school arcade game Pole Position?

Major StackingsWe have a NAMCO home version of the arcade game Pole Position, but no instructions. The other games work just like their arcade counterparts, but when I play Pole Position I can't seem to shift gears and therefore can't pass my computer opponent. Is there a solution, or was this game marketed wit...

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Q: What's Fertilizer useful for?

Ben BrockaI bought some fertilizer and gave it to one of my turnips (I'm sure that's a poor choice but it's all I had). The price increased by like 10G, while the fertilizer cost 100G, so that's not very useful since it only covers one tile and is consumed on use. So is Fertilizer only useful for very hig...

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Q: How can I beat the rock spiders on level 4 of Battle Quest?

Ben BrockaOn the Legend of Zelda Battle Quest attraction in Nitendo Land I'm having some trouble getting past the big rock spiders like in level four. They dodge my charge shots, and they only seem to take damage from the head, so taking them out before they reach you is very tricky. Is there any better wa...

 
@Fluttershy You're planning on moving?
 
@RavenDreamer I'd like to at some point, aye.
 
@Lazers Haven't I answered this already?
 
@fbueckert I say... Yes.
bangs gavel of Justice
 
8:40 PM
@Wipqozn I'm trying something risky, read the conclave chat
 
Oh wow this is like 10x more complicated than I was expecting — Ben Brocka 6 mins ago
I live to serve, @Ben
 
@Ender Configure your router to act like a bridge instead.
That's what I used to do when I had two routers.
 
hmmm
heres a fun way
you just set one router to route to a non-existant class C network
then you DON'T use that range, and assign it on your wan of the unwanted router
use the switching ability of the other 4 ports. Happy times
I'm doing that right now with a router sat on my desk here.... though I have a 24 port switch in the corner off the room, powered off because its loud :/
 
8:57 PM
"So how old ARE you?"..."I dunno. A thousand...something. But look! No wrinkles!"
 
Does anyone plays Toribash?
 
Ow, my brain.
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Q: Does Gollum know that others call him Gollum?

coleopteristI don't recall any of the characters in LotR or The Hobbit calling Sméagol Gollum to his face. It seems to be more of a private epithet. Is this correct? Does Gollum know that others call him Gollum?

 
@RavenDreamer That's like, the very definition of Too Localized.
Very first thought was, "Who cares? Gollum sure doesn't."
2
 
in the books they didn't at first
They called him by his name
Smegol.
Too localized? What?
 
@badp It just went down for maintence.
@fbueckert Nah, it's not. IT's a bad question, but it isn't close worthy.
IT certainly doesn't deserve over 27 up votes.
 
9:07 PM
@Wipqozn Eh. I disagree, but there's a reason I don't have a SciFi.SE account.
 
> This question is unlikely to help any future visitors; it is only relevant to a small geographic area, a specific moment in time, or an extraordinarily narrow situation that is not generally applicable to the worldwide audience of the internet. For help making this question more broadly applicable, see the FAQ.
It doesn't fit the close reason at all.
but... we both agree it's a stupid question, so that's all that matters :P
 
It's not 27 up votes. It's 27 people who upvoted it.
Once each :<
And I'd upvote it, I think its an interesting query
 
@Wipqozn high five
Also, today I got my Yearling badge.
You've all been stuck with me for a whole year.
 
9:24 PM
hi
 
Ah, bugger.
UI issues. T_T
 
0
Q: What's the fastest way to travel the end in minecraft?

BobWhat's the fastest way to travel through the end in minecraft? I need to get out SUPER far, and holding shift while placing blocks isn't cutting it... There's gotta be some kind of mod out there... Oh yeah and flying isn't an option.

 
I tried those new Chicken and Waffles flavored chips. It's amazing. They really do taste like sadness
 
@djsmiley2k 27 dumb people.
@BenBrocka Those chips are an insult to Chicken and Waffles. :(
 
9:40 PM
This month
Fuck this month
There's nothing wrong with the first half of this month
The rest though
double-fuck it so it makes up for it
 
@badp Good news: This is the shortest month of the year!
 
user15026
@fbueckert Lucky us
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz There's that at least
 
What's wrong with febuary, aside from being winter?
 
All the things I don't feel like talking about right now
 
9:44 PM
@BenBrocka I don't rightly know, I'm rather fond of the month myself. But @badp wants it to be over, so he can take solace in that it will be over a full 3 days sooner than most other months.
There's not even a week left!
 
It's just February 2013
February 2012 was a cool month
I have no reason to expect February 2014 will be like this, either
 
*pet pet* It's going to be okay
 
Is it bad at video games awareness month or something?
 
@BenBrocka I haven't yet made a fool of myself with you, I'd rather not fix that here and now
there's 4 days left
we can take our time
 
He has the chance of more Berlusconi to look forward to!
 
9:49 PM
Is that some sort of bread
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Whoa. I saw your post in the starred list, and thought 27 folks had given you a star.
 
Cheer up @badp it could be worse, and knowing your luck, it could well be.
 
@RavenDreamer 27 dumb people?
 
@RonanForman Yeah, it obviously could be. But it could be better. Much better.
 
@badp That's the spirit!
 
9:52 PM
...thinking about the empty half rather than the full half of the glass of water is the spirit?
 
@badp I don't know, maybe? I'm sure you're right. You normally are.
Any of this helping?
 
I'm kind of chuckling
I mean, I'm chuckling at the part with the fake praise. The part where you're still holding in your disappointment to the forty minutes you wasted in that Eversion recording with me, too.
I don't even know if I do have that file anymore
 
@badp What? I've wasted way more time on videos I never uploaded.
 
I never even apologized for that, and frankly, I don't think doing that now would change anything
 
You don't need to apologise.
 
9:55 PM
I'm not apologizing mainly because I'm not in the spirit to mean an apology; I still think I owe you one
 
I don't know what you think I do with my time, but it's not worth much.
 
after all I apologized to @OrigamiRobot for flagging his messages without warning and then did the same to kalina mere days later
sure, the flagging system is built to be anonymous and without warning, but does that matter? maybe? probably not
 
I am suddenly under the impression that I have Missed Something.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz nah, it's just been a few sucky days in a row. Yesterday was admittedly not sucky
also it's a certainty that my standard for sucky days is still ages above the best day ever of tons of people in Africa
 

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