The Bridge

Powerlord

15:00

@Unionhawk Yeah, that one! Also, it's newest first starting at the top. It also has an Uploads Only tab (which replaces the checkbox in the old layout)

Unionhawk

@Powerlord It's on Uploads only by default for me somehow. Which is nice.

Wipqozn

Powerlord

@Unionhawk I'm jealous. If I ever visit that page from its left-side link, it always defaults to showing everything.

Then again, I've bookmarked Uploads Only directly.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention: I basically have Internet access for 15 minutes at a time at home right now. The new "upgrades" my cable provider rolled out has issues with the Motorola 5120 cable modem. Which is the cable modem the company leases out to us.

fbueckert

@Wipqozn That's some pretty kickass point of view painting.

Unionhawk

@Powerlord It might be a user setting somewhere. I don't remember.

fbueckert

15:03

Does he have a picture from the other side?

Powerlord

I'm just going to buy a newer one (probably still Motorola, likely a 6141) and return the leased one to them.

fbueckert

@Powerlord 15 minutes out of the hour? Or 15 minutes a day?

StrixVaria

I think YouTube shows you Uploads Only if you switch to it manually enough times.

Powerlord

@fbueckert Cable Modem needs to be power-cycled every 15 minutes because it loses the downstream signal and can't find it until power-cycled.

fbueckert

@Powerlord I'd be yelling at my provider for that.

Wipqozn

15:06

@fbueckert Can't seem to find one. In fact I can't seem to track down the image on his site.

Although it's possible I'm getting him confused with someone else

Powerlord

@fbueckert Did that already. Which is how I know that it affects just about every customer in my area that leases an SB5120 from them.

However, they said the earliest they can get me a new cable modem (remember, I'm leasing one from them) is next Wednesday

fbueckert

@Powerlord Are they sure it's the modem? If it's affecting everyone in your area, sounds like something got fubared further upstream.

Powerlord

@fbueckert When the first question out of the tech's mouth after I tell them my problem is "Is your cable modem an SB5120?" I just assume it's the modem model itself.

Besides which, it not finding the downstream signal again until power-cycled sounds like a hardware problem.

fbueckert

@Powerlord Hmm. Perhaps they have a faulty manufacturing batch.

tiddy

So you can't get a new modem?

Powerlord

15:10

@tiddy I can. If I wait a week.

tiddy

So spotty internet for a week. Take your lumps

fbueckert

@tiddy No, don't take your lumps; you're paying for service. Service that you're not getting.

tiddy

He doesn't have to agree to pay his normal fee. I'm just saying there isn't much to be done here

He's screwed

fbueckert

@tiddy Oh, yeah, currently, ain't much he can do but scream bloody murder.

Ben Brocka

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Yeah. Though I really wish the homepage would default to my subscriptions, and it would allow me to view the dropdown list of a channel's videos on the video page like it used to. That was awesome for sequential videos. The new layout is useless for that

fbueckert

15:12

And get a free month or two of service out of them for the inconvenience.

tiddy

If he's lucky

Powerlord

@BenBrocka I hate that too, they're instead trying to encourage people to create playlists.

Unionhawk

Suddenly college internet doesn't seem so bad... At least if something breaks, I can call someone who's on site and claim I have an online test - or whatever

Powerlord

For that matter, does the Playlist display even show up at the bottom any more?

Unionhawk

At least, I assume I can call someone...... I hope...

tiddy

15:13

I work on a university connection. It is fantastic

Unionhawk

It's fine - until I hit my 4GB in a day - then it gets throttled to hell.

Ben Brocka

@Powerlord I love playlists, but they're so damn hidden that most people never make them and most people never find them

@Powerlord no, but there's a sweet dropdown at the top of the page for it. Which would be great, if I could get the auto-generated playlist it used to make. But they don't do that either. Which I also hate

tiddy

I...i can't contain my e-peen.. It's growwwwing speedtest.net/result/2492626994.png

fbueckert

@tiddy Wait until you finish university.

tiddy

I work here. I'm 29

fbueckert

15:15

You'll be paying through the nose for an equivalent connection.

@tiddy Well, damn. There goes that.

How's your home connection?

tiddy

30mbs

Powerlord

Since we're comparing work connections: speedtest.net/result/2492631314.png

Also, I'm not sure why it's selecting a site 50+ miles away by default; there should be a testing site here in Lansing. Or there was

Krazer

@Wipqozn You missed this one:

From another angle

tiddy

That slug one is kinda blowing my mind...oh

Unionhawk

Goddammit speedtest.net/result/2492635260.png

Powerlord

15:18

Oh, it's because the one here in town bites ass and has a much higher ping

tiddy

k good. Didn't realize he painted on the bench

Unionhawk

I feel cheated now.

badp

@Unionhawk what's so bad about that?

Unionhawk

I want my money back.

@badp It isn't 90 Mbps

tiddy

Dayton is not a place for fun

badp

15:19

Depends on whether or not the speed test results are bits or bytes

tiddy

You know what's fun in Dayton OH? Packing up and getting the hell out.

badp

If that's megabytes per seconds, then you're getting 109 megabits.

tiddy

It's in bits

Unionhawk

Yeah, it's bits.

badp

eh. Okay.

OrigamiRobot

15:20

@badp The ping is not very good.

badp

Yeah, 101ms sounds like bad wifi or something worse

fbueckert

@Krazer These always amuse me. They seem like a lot of work for very little gain, though; how many people will see the painting correctly, or take the time to find the right angle?

Unionhawk

I get significantly better ping from the Cincinnati server - which seems weird, but whatever

badp

Also whoever is to blame for the current fixed upload/download ratio of most ISPs - I hate you

3

Krazer

@tiddy This is true, at least 23 Ohioans have got up and left the planet.

2

tiddy

15:22

blah blah astronauts

Ben Brocka

@badp common knowledge is that users upload far far less than they download. This common knowledge is from long before the days of Youtube and general content sharing

Unionhawk

Yeah, it's just that server; tested Columbus, 23 ms, 19.73 down/3.57 up. Better.

tiddy

They know

badp

@BenBrocka Yeah, you know what would be rad? Having a slow download/fast upload ←→ slow upload/fast download slider to adjust to your own whim

Unionhawk

I'm still showing all tests from any university that hits 90 mbps to the admissions department. They need to step up their game.

Tim Stone

15:23

@badp Thankfully my connection is listed as 25/25 (and it's actually better than that)

fbueckert

@badp That would be instantly exploited to break the limits and provide fast both.

badp

@TimStone Damn you.

@fbueckert Why?

fbueckert

@badp If you give someone a tool like that, people would figure out how to break it.

badp

@fbueckert Why?

SaintWacko

Man, Naev is too much fun

fbueckert

15:25

@badp Because we're geeks?

We like poking at stuff and figuring out how it works?

badp

@fbueckert That's no excuse for poor security

@fbueckert Just because banks give us the chance to send and make payments through the internet doesn't mean we get to make up money in our bank accounts from thin air

fbueckert

@badp Oh, I'm not saying they'd implement bad security. I'm saying no security is flawless.

tiddy

I'm pretty sure mine is so high because the only thing USC students use it for is downloading red-solo-cup vids on youtube and e-worship

SaintWacko

@fbueckert In college, a friend of mine figured out how to create virtual ethernet cards on his computer and use them with downloads to give himself multiple of the bandwidth limit

fbueckert

@badp Banks have an incredibly vested interest in ensuring monies match up.

OrigamiRobot

15:26

@badp No ISP is going to spend that much money to give people a bandwidth slider.

fbueckert

ISPs costs are so low that they wouldn't care if some people break the tool, as the cost to them would be minimal.

badp

@fbueckert Wouldn't ISPs have similarly interests in making sure you don't get a $40/mo service on a $5/mo plan?

Krazer

@fbueckert I think it's because they draw attention and crowds (even if you don't get it you'll wonder what the fuss is about and stop for a moment), so it's good publicity to commission these artist to draw crowds, but unlike murals, you don't need to maintain them.

Ben Brocka

@badp That'd be neat, but I'd prefer just pairity like Google Fiber. Even if it means not quite as fast upload speeds, just one speed to list is a huge win for consumer understanding

user30

ours is 175/170 at the moment, \o/

OrigamiRobot

15:28

@badp Yes, but it cuts into their profits. Therefore, they just don't do it in the first place.

badp

@BenBrocka I'd like a pony with my fries too, thanks.

@OrigamiRobot What would? Better service?

Ben Brocka

@badp Google has a better chance of making it happen than anyone else

OrigamiRobot

@badp The bank level security you are suggesting

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Reducing attack surface by removing places where services can be abused is a form of security

badp

You don't need bank level security (which I'm afraid you're grossly overestimating) to protect a goddamn one-dimensional value.

tiddy

15:29

I believe I saw a article on reddit citing a 95% profit margin for ISPs

badp

if(ratio > 1) ratio = 1;

run this serverside

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@tiddy Well, a large part of the cost for ISPs is fixed costs.

Powerlord

So, for the first time in like 6 months, SourceMod has a "release" version that actually works across all Source games except CS:GO.

badp

(also, if you somehow got the download speed/download + upload speed ratio outside the 0-1 range, you either would get 0 download or 0 upload; both mean you don't get to use the internet)

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

There was this idea I've heard that suggests ISPs give you a minimum bandwidth, and when the traffic is low redistribute that to users who need them.

Of course that'll never happen, but it's nice to dream...

badp

15:32

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Yeah, not with bittorrent

tiddy

I speak french and this is still WTF store.steampowered.com/app/229600

badp

@tiddy Well, "game is art" right?

fbueckert

@badp Not to the degree that the banks would; costs for providing a $5 would be pennies. The $40 plan would cost them more, but it would be a minimal additional cost.

@badp ratio = 1 until after check. then ratio > 1

tiddy

If you consider a college freshman intro to poetry and philosophy project as art

badp

6 mins ago, by badp

(also, if you somehow got the download speed/download + upload speed ratio outside the 0-1 range, you either would get 0 download or 0 upload; both mean you don't get to use the internet)

fbueckert

15:38

@badp I think you're underestimating the amount of futzing someone would do.

When checking, report ratio = 1. Doesn't matter what the actual value is, report it as 1.

Things like that are a cat and mouse game.

People find a way around, all-powerful corporation patches hole, people find another way around.

Powerlord

So, I really should play Antichamber at some point.

I got it on Steam last week and I heard its really good. That and I don't want to play The Cave while I can't connect to the Internet because I'm an achievement whore and Steam doesn't do offline achievements.

tiddy

Here's a game: Open Mic night poetry reading or video game description:

The sea remains, tugging at their hearts when not at their hairs and clothes, as it itself is tugged by the virtual moon. And as great as the desire for the other may be, they cannot stay away from the wind and the waves and the sand. Every time they find a new treasure. An abandoned tennis field. An heap of coal. A dead dog. Ordinary. Absurd. Meaningless. Yet comforting.

badp

3 mins ago, by badp

6 mins ago, by badp

(also, if you somehow got the download speed/download + upload speed ratio outside the 0-1 range, you either would get 0 download or 0 upload; both mean you don't get to use the internet)

fbueckert

3 mins ago, by fbueckert

When checking, report ratio = 1. Doesn't matter what the actual value is, report it as 1.

tiddy

Could also be an entry from gnomeslice's diary

badp

15:42

Who cares about the reported ratio

OrigamiRobot

@badp He is saying that computers only know what is told to them. What is told to them does not have to be what is measured and they don't know any better.

badp

You're arguing about changing the actual value outside of range, which fucks your entire internet connection.

@OrigamiRobot I've followed the course on computer security, thank you very much.

fbueckert

@badp Oh, you're talking about a physical limit provided for the connection.

OrigamiRobot

No need to get snooty, thank you very much.

fbueckert

Yeah, in that case, if you saturate your bandwidth, there is no way to squeeze more out of it. Except by installing more cables.

badp

15:45

@OrigamiRobot "Computers do as they're told, not as wanted" is something we're taught from day 0

tiddy

Also, House of Cards on netflix is very fun

OrigamiRobot

1 min ago, by OrigamiRobot

No need to get snooty, thank you very much.

tiddy

A must see for all you machiavellian minded folks....ahem

Powerlord

puts on his Hat of Cards

Oh wait, I probably crafted that one away.

fbueckert

@tiddy I don't have a machiavellian mind! I just like things to go my way, and will ensure it does.

tiddy

15:47

@fbueckert Seriously though I think you'd enjoy

fbueckert

@tiddy That's Netflix's own show, right?

tiddy

Yeah

fbueckert

Hmm. Might check it out, then, if I can find it somewhere.

tiddy

Kevin Spacey is downright scary

Powerlord

@tiddy Did you see him when he played Dr. Evil in one of the Austin Powers movies?

tiddy

15:54

Oh during the A-List opener?

yeah

Powerlord

Darn, I was hoping someone would say "Didn't Mike Myers play Dr. Evil?" before you pointed that out

Krazer

No one's gonna mention Danny DeVito as Mini-me?

Powerlord

@Krazer He did a great job there. :D

Not sure I liked Tom Cruise as Austin Powers, though.

Lazers

0

Q: Xpadder not working with MotionInJoy (DualShock 3)

I wanted to play GTA: San Andreas with my DualShock 3. Unfortunately you can't set the same button for 2 different things (like it is on the PS2). So I installed MotionInJoy and Xpadder, but Xpadder does not recognize any button at all. In MotionInJoy the Custom LED's and the Vibration test works...

pc gta-san-andreas

Krazer

@Powerlord Who would you have casted instead?

Powerlord

16:00

@Krazer Weird Al Yankovic.

Speaking of which, he was on this week's episode of Learning Town. In a non-singing role.

Krazer

I love the subtitles on this:

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Michel

@Krazer lol

fredley

@Krazer Haha

Ronan Forman

hides

ChrisF

@agent86 - ah you are here. I've posted a question about ChatterBox on StackApps - stackapps.com/questions/3914/…

@RonanForman Haven't you got homework you should be doing?

Ronan Forman

16:12

@ChrisF Probably, I can't be expected to keep track.

fredley

@RonanForman You're doing it wrong

Also, have you seen the server recently? It's getting quite awesome.

Ronan Forman

@fredley Yeah, I solar powered the machine room at spawn for you.

fredley

@RonanForman Ah cool.

I've added a farm and guesthouse, and a few extra things

Ronan Forman

I should set up a wheat farm for the cows.

BoltClock

You guys

Maybe I should have downvoted Retrosaur's question on MSO

fredley

16:17

@RonanForman I could add to the one I've set up

It's next door anyway

agent86

@ChrisF hello, I'll go check in on it. I haven't used the extension in a while, so it might need updating or somesuch.

fredley

need a harvester and some piping, and some way of dealing with overflow. Possibly RP tubes

Is there a significant difference in the amount of lag introduced by a RP timer compared to a traditional redstone clock?

Ronan Forman

@fredley Timers have fewer block updates.

fredley

@RonanForman Ok

It's not going to be in a permanently loaded chunk anyway

agent86

@ChrisF language should be fixed, thanks for the bug report. :)

Unionhawk

16:22

@fredley A timer for what? The harvester ejects into pipes, which you can run into a relay

ChrisF

@agent86 Cool

fredley

@Unionhawk Ah yes, forgot it was auto-eject

Powerlord

So, anyway... bacon!

fredley

michelinguides.com

Ben Brocka

16:56

Powerlord

@BenBrocka trolololol

user15026

@BenBrocka why. Why is this.

Grace Note

@AshleyNunn Things fitting into other things perfectly.

user15026

@gracenote people on the Internet have too much time on their hands.

Ben Brocka

Lazers

17:05

1

Q: Specialization Name

In multiplayer, when you reach SR-130, can you change the specialization name displayed below your Spartan? For example, if you choose Stalker as your last specialization, will it be set to "Stalker" forever or can you freely switch it to another specialization name?

halo-4

SaintWacko

17:17

Stupid pirates

Attacking a heavily armed imperial cruiser in fighters

fbueckert

@SaintWacko Naev?

SaintWacko

@fbueckert Yep

I'm now flying a cruiser armed with 6 turbolasers and a mk3 laser turret

fbueckert

@SaintWacko I should really find some screenshots of this.

Mm. I like the look of Starsector better.

SaintWacko

@fbueckert Yeah, Starsector probably has nicer graphics, but I think the Naev gameplay is better

Also, Naev is free, so may as well try it!

fbueckert

@SaintWacko I don't have enough time as is!

I should retire tomorrow, so I can have the time to play all these awesome video games.

SaintWacko

17:23

@fbueckert Good idea

user15026

@fbueckert that sounds like the best plan.

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Except my mortgage company wouldn't be too happy with me.

SaintWacko

Also, Naev has physics

proper physics

To stop, you have to turn and face backwards before firing the engine

guns have recoil, and impact, and explosions push ships

fbueckert

@SaintWacko Newtonian physics. Who says we can't build engines that simulate gravity-esque movement?

I do like building ships that embody Macross Missile Massacres, though. Does Naev allow that?

Ullallulloo

@GraceNote I rather enjoyed that.

SaintWacko

17:31

@fbueckert Yes

Ben Brocka

Site plagiarizes blog posts, then files DMCA takedown on originals

Wee copyright law

SaintWacko

Just fit a bunch of missile launchers

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Yeah, I saw that.

How much you wanna bet the PR company behind Mr. Stupid scientist is behind it?

If we abolished copyright entirely, we'd lose some legacy industries, but creativity and innovation would explode exponentially.

Wipqozn

TIL Christian Bale voiced Howl in Howl's Moving Castle

Fluttershy

@Wipqozn Yes he did.

OrigamiRobot

17:37

SDAIL what TIL stands for

StrixVaria

@OrigamiRobot Eight Days Ago?

OrigamiRobot

SAAHDAIL is more accurate

No

StrixVaria

DAE hate when @OrigamiRobot makes up acronyms?

OrigamiRobot

Fuck it this terrible joke is too complicated.

Grace Note

@StrixVaria It actually took me longer to pick apart yours than OrigamiRob's.

OrigamiRobot

17:40

@GraceNote ಠ_ಠ

StrixVaria

I didn't make up DAE, though.

Oh look, it's lunch time.

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria I did so bad at the draft. It was like I didn't even know how to play

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy I seen Howl's back when it was first dubbed, which was before Batman BEgins was released. So I never made the connection.

I just rewatched it though, and bam.

Ullallulloo

17:53

5

@AshleyNunn?^

user15026

@Ullallulloo oh man now I want cookies

James

@AshleyNunn Not cupcakes!?

user15026

@james those too. All the baked goods!

Ullallulloo

EVASIVE MANEUVERS

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Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn Now I want cookies.

user15026

17:57

@wipqozn you can't have them. They are mine.

James

@AshleyNunn Whew, I was very nervous :)

user15026

@james cupcakes are my one true love. Cookies are tasty though.

Fluttershy

@Ullallulloo I bought a case of Thin Mints last time the Girl Scouts sold cookies. >_> Something like 20 boxes.

user15026

@fluttershy that is awesome.

user15026

Usually Girl Guides here only sell the chocolate or vanilla creme filled cookies, but the odd time they will sell the chocolate mint cookies. But they aren't easy to get - Girl Guides are not super common in my area.

Wipqozn

18:03

@AshleyNunn Well, you know what you can't have?

Ni no Kuni

| director=Ken Motomura | composer=Joe Hisaishi | writer=Akihiro Hino | released=Nintendo DSPlayStation 3 | genre=Role-playing game | modes=Single-player | ratings= | platforms=Nintendo DSPlayStation 3 | media= }} is a role-playing video game, co-developed by Japanese developer Level-5 and anime company Studio Ghibli, The Nintendo DS version, titled , was released on December 9, 2010, while the PlayStation 3 version, titled , was released in Japan on November 17, 2011, with a Western release on January 22, 2013. The Western PlayStation 3 version is published by Namco Bandai Games and in...

Ullallulloo

@Fluttershy Now you all have made me want cookies. D:

user15026

@wipqozn you are the worst.

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn You started it.

I really should go to the store and buy some cookies.

Ullallulloo

@AshleyNunn That reminds me. Did you see my tweet replying to yours the other day?

user15026

I have chocolate covered Graham crackers.

user15026

18:10

@Ullallulloo yes I did. :p

James

I sooo want a breakfast burrito from a place that does not sell them any longer

Lazers

0

Q: What is the most efficient way to build complete walls and roofs around a building?

I'm trying to build a 3-level wall around some personal rooms along with a roof. The entire room is about 15x15. Problems I'm encountering: Townies getting stuck on top of walls Placed walls "falling" and sitting on the ground Townies not being able to place roofs in the middle of the room at...

towns

0

Q: How does deconstructing vehicles work?

I've heard that it's possible to deconstruct vehicles, but I've never done it. How do you do that? What does deconstructing them do?

planetside-2

user15026

@james that is unfortunate :(

James

@AshleyNunn Very Very.. It was an awesome Louisiana Sausage burrito :)

user15026

That sounds way tasty.

LessPop_MoreFizz

18:30

> Each site has it's own quirks and anomalies to the SE baseline, for example SciFi&Fantasy and Arqade both allow 'Name that tune' type questions which could be considered of no future use to anyone but the OP.

I'm offended on our behalf.

Wipqozn

@LessPop_MoreFizz Link?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Wipqozn apple.stackexchange.com/election?cb=1

It's a comment on a nomination over at ask differents elections.

Lazers

18:44

0

Q: Xbox 360 Open Tray Error After Replacing Drive

I have a old (not slim) Xbox 360 Elite console. Recently I started getting the "Open Tray" fault. I tried all the suggestions online (tapping, opening up, cleaning, checking laser position) all to no avail. I decided to get a replacement drive off eBay, knowing that if I got the same model I c...

xbox-360

SaintWacko

@LessPop_MoreFizz What, no we don't!

StrixVaria

@OrigamiRobot Did you get anything good?

OrigamiRobot

Not from the draft. I got a couple good trades.

Sol Ring, Grave Pact, Artifact Lands

Lim-Dul's Vault

badp

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via Robusto

Rakesh Juyal

Hi

Is it legal to download game update from torrentz.eu ?

user15026

18:55

Oh hey. It is October 19th today. Makes me almost wish I had tv. (mind you I will likely just download the ep later tonight)

fbueckert

@RakeshJuyal Probably not.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@RakeshJuyal With a domain like that, I'd assume no.

Rakesh Juyal

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Q: Is it ok/legal to download game patch from torrents?

Few days back I bought 3 games from Origin/EA . One of the game is BFBC2, when I try to run it, it says I have to download the update to be able to play the game. I tried to update my game several times and it always fail after sometime. I contact origin/ea help. I must say it was a pathetic exp...

bad-company-2 origin battlefield-2 legal

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn I...what?

fbueckert

But we're not lawyers, and legal advice isn't anything we can really provide.

user15026

18:56

@rakesh unlikely. That is a torrent search site.

fbueckert

@RakeshJuyal Closed properly.

Rakesh Juyal

@fbueckert So what to do EA/ORIGIN is not helping me.

user15026

@wipqozn Community season 4 starts tonight. Was supposed to start October 19,so in fandom today is October 19

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn Ah, I see.

Rakesh Juyal

I paid for the game and I can't update it.

fbueckert

18:57

@RakeshJuyal Dunno. But we can't answer questions of legality.

Welcome to canned responses as customer service.

user15026

@wipqozn it is one of my favourite shows. :)

Rakesh Juyal

Ok lets assume it is leagal. Can it corrupt my game?

fbueckert

You might get a better response calling them up; talking to people live tends to garner better responses.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@RakeshJuyal Maybe?

fbueckert

@RakeshJuyal Yup. There's no guarantee that the patch does what it says it does.

user15026

18:58

@rakesh there is no way to know for sure. It might.

Rakesh Juyal

@fbueckert they say there is one LIVE CHAT link.

Ullallulloo

This cat is dancing?

Rakesh Juyal

But I see only MAIL and FORUMS thats it.

LessPop_MoreFizz

You're downloading files of unknown provenance from an unauthorized third party. It could be the patch. It could be the patch, but broken. It could be a large cache of child pornography. It could be a virus. It could be all of the above.

Rakesh Juyal

Probably it is locale dependent and time dependent too.

user15026

18:59

@Ullallulloo what. That cat.

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