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20:00
Wish amazon would let me put together a list of the computer components I am looking at to have you look it over @BenBrocka
@James Can't you use the wishlist feature for that?
@James Why not use Newegg?
@James Newegg lets you email your cart to someone, does Amazon do that too?
@OrigamiRobot Cause I hate newegg :)
That's how I've shared them in the past
20:02
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Q: Is the Elo system in League of Legends accurate?

EnderI'm confused about how Elo could work properly in a game such as League. The Elo rating system was originally developed for 1 versus 1 chess games as I understand it. So, how could it properly show you your skill level in a game where your victory or defeat hangs on the additional requirement of ...

@James wat O_O
They have always given me problems with shipping.. Always
I have always had stellar experiences with Newegg.
3 day delivery max
@OrigamiRobot They hate sending things where I want them sent.. though in all honesty I suppose that I now live and work from home so I would not have that issue.
But past experience in dealing with them has been .. bothersome
I didn't even know Newegg and bothersome could be used in the same sentence without another negative.
20:06
Never had trouble with their shipping either, aside from UPS' occasional beat-up box. But amazon's shipping's better if you have prime (and you don't have shoprunner for Newegg's 2 day shipping)
@OrigamiRobot LOL
@BenBrocka I do have amazon prime :)
@BenBrocka And I am Seriously tempted to get that LAN box HAF case... but I am not sure it could support 4-way SLI
I mean, I'm not calling you a liar or anything, but were you trying to get them to ship it to a radioactive waste site? I could understand them not wanting to ship there.
@OrigamiRobot THey will only ship to your billing address or an address that is on file with your credit card company. And I am somewhat against giving my credit card company my business address to be associated with the card... Its just an annoying situation to be in.
@BenBrocka Though it is mostly for the updated features for the drive bays that case somes with.. Wish they would update the HAF-X with them.
@James What's new about the drive bays?
@James I ship to places other than my billing address all the time.
I don't think I've ever shipped to my billing address.
20:11
@BenBrocka No bending to fit the drives into the holders.
@James Oh, yeah, they wouldn't let me ship to anything but my paypal address if I paid with paypal, that was annoying
@OrigamiRobot I've bought some stuff from Newegg, and getting it was the worst.
@James Oh, yeah, that was a bit weird. I do like the caddies once the drives are in though
@BenBrocka Hence my Annoyance.. I think the @OrigamiRobot just has ways of hacking around their system.
Granted, that was more due to Purolater than Newegg, though.
20:12
@BenBrocka Oh yeah, definitely hands down awesome, I just liked the upgraded bays in that lan box.
@fbueckert I'm not sure exactly
Annnnd I can not justify $400 for just a 2% performance increase :(
@BenBrocka I have never had this happen.
Btu I have -always- bought the extreme edition CPUs! :( End of an era sniff
@AshleyNunn Yep, I have fun walking away from my computer and watching it lock behind me :D
20:14
@OrigamiRobot I think there is a price limit involved on the shipment location
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Q: FIle Location ( No such Directory or FIle )

user112675Hello I am new to Ubuntu and I am using the newest build of Kiwi Ubuntu and I was trying to install a Windows game using Wine and Winetricks . All went fine until i hit a really weird and lame problem . When I try to point the file directory to run the program I get the No such file or directory ...

@OrigamiRobot Really? It locks me to paypal's shipping info and won't let me change it. But that might be because my default shipping info is my house, but I ship expensive stuff to my parents because they're home most of the day
Also because I have a job so it's almost physically impossible for me to ever sign for anything.
@James It must be really high then. The most I've ever had on an order it $900.
@OrigamiRobot o.O Well I count you lucky man.. Your experience with newegg has not been mine.
@James Save your money for the SSDs :P. That 2%'s not going to be a bottleneck anyway
20:17
@James Maybe they are racist against cats.
@OrigamiRobot Isn't that speciesist?
@OrigamiRobot :O
@fbueckert gasp You too?
@badp I can't even look up what that is. Google gives me a 414. :(
@BenBrocka Yeah my thoughts exactly.
20:18
@OrigamiRobot Differing classes of animals entirely.
Or maybe they just hate all non-robots.
I am thinking 128GB for the OS drive, then getting 2 256 drives and stripe them
@fbueckert Could be. I hate all non-robots. Except @AshleyNunn. She has cupcakes.
[suddenly freezes up with terror] Oh god.. Should I even look at Win8?
@James Would you be paying for it?
@OrigamiRobot Yup
20:21
Then no.
If you could get it for free, sure mess around with it.
I have not pirated in years.. decade now actually... I only use one piece of software still simply because Macromedia does not exist any more and fuck adobe :)
I have MSDNAA
THe Hell
Win7 is twice the price of Win8
@James because they really want you to use their newest OS
20:24
@OrigamiRobot Those are a bit expensive are they not?
I have MSDN Ultimate... mwa.... MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... but no seriously, through my work account I can download everything Microsoft makes.
@James The AA is Academic Alliance. Engineering students got it for free.
@OrigamiRobot :O Lucky Bastard
@Powerlord No Office for me :(
@Powerlord I used to have that :( I miss the VS drafting tools, hehe.
20:26
The crazy part? I'm a Java dev. Why is work paying for an MSDN account for me?
@Powerlord Who knows
Maybe they have extra licenses since they pay for them in bulk.
what's the name of that game that simulates a starship bridge, and you play with 5 people on different stations?
Or the bureaucracy from working for government worked in my favor for a change.
@agent86 Star Trek Bridge Simulator or something like that?
@Powerlord nah, this is an indie game that was released not too terribly long ago. artemis or something like that?
hah, I remembered it!
20:28
Which incidentally was the first google result for star trek bridge simulator
Bless Google and its "remember how we said we'd always include all the non-common terms you entered into a search? Not anymore!"
Mmmm
RAM selection
Always fun and frustratingly hard
@Powerlord for, um, Windows?
What are the good RAM brands this week/month/year?
@badp We already have a Windows enterprise license.
Likewise for Office.
Well I guess you can get one more for home.
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Q: How much will do soldiers need for psi powers?

George DuckettIn the late game you can see if your soldiers have the gift to use psi powers. The game says that they need a strong will, but how much? Is it directly related to the will stat? What if I test for the ability then the soldier ranks up, can I test them again?

20:32
@Powerlord No idea.. Went with munchkin last time.. Considering Corsair or oCZ (both places I have gotten ram from before)
@OrigamiRobot Since when to robots need organic matter or any sort?
Hmm, flagged chat message in a language I don't understand.
@agent86 Artemis
@fbueckert :P
@agent86 Crazy awesome database brain.
It does fun things.
20:35
@fbueckert seems like it needs optimization though
you were 5 whole minutes late
@agent86 I'm working. Multitasking to an extreme degree.
try adding some more indexes
OPTIMIZE TABLE Bacon
@agent86 I'm sorry, I'm trying to earn my paycheque.
@fbueckert shakes head
priorities, man, priorities!
20:37
@agent86 My priorities include asking for a 50% raise next month.
fail.
lol
@agent86 I'll take money over you guys any day. :P
user15026
@fbueckert Hey!
@fbueckert :(
20:42
@agent86 THERE we go.
That's what I was waiting for.
it's even a link
@AshleyNunn Well, MOST of the Bridge, anyways.
user15026
@fbueckert Which part do I fall into? :P
@AshleyNunn You read the same books as I do. That means you're worth knowing.
user15026
20:44
@fbueckert Yayyyy! Also, omg, I have to babble at you about When Darkness Falls at some point.
user15026
@agent86 Nooo, that is terrible, and I am powerless.
@AshleyNunn Should be on Steam if you need to gush. :P Just can't respond, because that's at home.
user15026
@fbueckert Okay. Be prepared for a wall of text!
@AshleyNunn Wee!
@James G Skill is all over newegg, they're what I got. Good price for the speed, can't really say much more about ram. I'd just recommend a matched pair of 8 GBs at reasonable speed. Don't pay too much for the higher speeds since you're unlikely to see a major performance boost out of that. And I definitely don't recommend overclocking the ram/the board to run higher speed ram
20:54
@BenBrocka Though that ram does seem slow, the mobo says it supports up to 2133MHz
I've heard the ram speeds are pretty meaningless past 1333 really
Thats more like it :)
Yeah but I would rather the RAM be running in sync with the system
RAM's generally fast enough the rest of your system is slowing it down, not vice versa
@BenBrocka 16GB or 32GB though...
If I am going to go 32GB I generally like buying them all at the same time so they are paired.
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Q: Can we max all skills in Farcry 3?

WarfaceI was wondering if we can max all skills in the game or we have to choose wisely because they might have a limit?

0
Q: Does plants respawn after a certain amount of time?

WarfaceWe need plants to make medicine or other stuff for hunting. For that you need to take plants but the question is, does those plants respawn after a certain amount of time or do I have to check for others around the whole map ?

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Q: Does the Captain Enchantment Tier 2 Boots Stack?

BBzIn the Preseason 3 Patch Notes, it says, Enchantment - Captain: Allied champions moving towards you gain a movement speed boost. Additionally, nearby allied minions gain a large movement speed bonus. Is this aura unique or does it stack? If every member of the team has this enchantment...

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Q: Is there an advantage to buying the locked weapons?

ParalyticSo I play as the NC Heavy Assualt unit most of the time, I have already put hundreds of certifications into the starting weapon, the Guass SAW I believe its called. I was planning on supporting the game and becoming a premium player for a bit, eventually. I'm not willing to give up what i've alre...

21:05
I've heard 2 slots can be faster now. Plus you'll probably never need more than 16 for a few years unless you use heavy graphic editing stuff (photoshoping mega resolution, RAW image files). Even when playing games and recording the only time I've gone near 16 GB was when running a CHKDSK of all things
I should buy more memory for my computer. I only have 6GB right now, but I have 3 open slots.
6GB would hurt :P
I could go up to 12 probably for really cheap.
Is it safe to mix 2 different kinds of memory, though? Like if the 3 new ones I get don't match the 3 I already have, would that be an issue?
I suck at computer hardware stuff.
@fbueckert Are the keyboard controls still the same in KSP 1.8?
@GnomeSlice Yup
21:08
Excellent, I won't have to re-program my mouse.
@BenBrocka I uh.. play video games and encode at the same time :D
@BenBrocka Depends on what you're doing.
@BenBrocka And I do those two things in a system with only 6GB of RAM right now
Hell, my work PC only has 3GB! :O
@Powerlord :O
21:09
(and could definitely use more)
My home PC only has 8GB.
@James Same. I rarely use over 8GB
Of course, my PC also has another 2.4GB video RAM due to its video cards (1.2 on each)
@fbueckert holy crap there are a lot of new parts.
Is video ram actually accessible for non-video stuff?
@Powerlord I think that is my saving grace as well as my video encoder uses my GPUs to do it and I generally have a spare 1-2 of those :)
21:11
@GnomeSlice Indeed
@BenBrocka No, probably not... unless you're doing processing stuff with it.
That is what GPGPU is for!
Ouch, so much for "Always include a comment with your close vote". gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/95056/games-for-old-people
4 comments in one minute
user15026
@bwarner So much repetitiveness there :P
@bwarner GAME REC IS OFF TOPIC MAN COME ON
@bwarner So much repetitiveness there :P
21:13
I'd delete mine, but its the best (because I copied it from agent86)
And @InvaderSkoodge ruined that on me. :(
@bwarner Whoops.
I deleted mine.
@bwarner But can I ask shopping questions here?
Don't need to dogpile on the poor guy.
Someone seriously flagged a chat comment done by one of the feed bots?
21:14
@fbueckert Guh, engines have so many stats now...
I never react fast enough to see flags.
user15026
@Powerlord Whaaat really?
By the time I click it, it's either dismissed or deleted already.
@GnomeSlice They take two fuel types to run, now!
@fbueckert wat. Also, cool, the super-efficient atomic engines are still there!
21:15
Nope, like it wasn't 1 year ago :) — jmfsg 28 secs ago
Modhax!
@InvaderSkoodge I got to pull it up, but by the time I clicked Invalid, it was already dead.
@InvaderSkoodge Hehe, OK, now I don't feel so bad for piling on.
@InvaderSkoodge I suspect he asked that linked question.
lol "games for old people"
@fbueckert Yes, and it was a game-rec.
21:16
@InvaderSkoodge Which means he deserves all the dogpiling he gets.
Hi All, I have just ask this question which is not suitable for the site. Could you please assist me ? gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/95056/games-for-old-people
* grumbles *
$4000 just for the effing GPUs
that would be an all new high in PC cost.
@Zerotoinfinite My dad barely knows how to use technology but he plays Draw Something constantly.
@Zerotoinfinite Hey zero!
I know I might sound fool but this is for my father ... and :D
21:18
Sorry for all the repetitive comments
It's not exactly a PC game, though.
I can't access questions from work... what was it again?
@Powerlord Games for old people with slow reflexes.
> Can someone suggest me games for older people. My father is 65 years. His reflexes his not as good as younger man. He enjoys playing:

Solitaire
Spider Solitaire
Angry Birds
There's the gist of it.
FarmVille :P
21:19
For which platform(s)?
@James One great GPU now > piles of cards at once. Add the extra cards later if you acutally need them
@Zero I'd start with something low complexity. Maybe puzzle games along the lines of Bejeweled?
Windows 7
@Powerlord PC
@BenBrocka I do one per monitor minimum, and I love running in spanning mode at times
3600x1920 resolution is sweet :) or 4860x1200, hehe
21:21
@James How many GPUs were you trying to add? o_O
Plants vs Zombies is another classic if he's into that kind of humor. It requires a bit of reflexes, but not too much.
4, building a new computer not recycling my existing one
Also, if you're looking at nVidia cards, be aware that the x90 cards (490, 590, 690, etc...) tend to overheat.
@bwarner Thanks for the suggestion :)
Any PopCap game, actually.
Peggle is really good.
21:21
@James You need 4 video cards? :O
and I thought having 2 was overkill sometimes.
@fbueckert Shit, I can't play this any more, it's far too complicated.
@Powerlord I have 3 right now
@Powerlord I have 2 video cards for 3 monitors.
Maybe Ill just stick with 3.
@James I run 3 monitor eyefinity flawlessly in BL2 with a single Raedon 6950, max settings...one card per monitor is crazy, you realize?
21:22
@GnomeSlice Dude, I hit Kerbin escape velocity with two stages.
Orbit should be hella simple.
@fbueckert I mean the entire game is now far too complicated.
One good card, for the main monitor for gaming, and one mediocre cheap card for the other 2 monitors, which only ever display basic stuff.
@InvaderSkoodge I only have one monitor, too... I need to get another at some point, but my current one is a 24".
Just get one card with a dual GPU, much much better cost/benefit than multi-cards, which suffer diminishing returns
Heh, I was trying to set up my phone so I could recieve work email
21:23
I have a lot of trouble with only one monitor. I could live with 2, though.
Then again, my cards are also SLIed, so I can use both to render one game.
user15026
@Zerotoinfinite A good place to look is Gamehouse, they have as lot of casual games. I would recommend Hoyle Card Games 2012, or Solitaire Kingdom Quest, Bookworm Deluxe, and Peggle, for starters.
@GnomeSlice It's a sandbox. I can restart your challenges.
@Invader Peggle seems to be a nice games.. I remember he was able to play games like "garden of times". But he is in rural area so there is no internet access.. I have to go there and install the games.
@InvaderSkoodge I've noticed lately that I tend to move apps to one side of the screen or the other (since Win7 supports snapping them to half the screen if you drag them to the far side)
21:24
As it is, I have to add in a few more, anyways.
but apparently they severely frown on rooted devices
@fbueckert I still haven't gotten to the Mun and back.
and the fact that I'm running a custom ROM makes it even worse
@Powerlord Wow ! That is awesome :)
21:25
@fredley Ahhh... I forgot about this. Good stuff.
@BenBrocka Yeah until nvidia decides to mess up their drivers again so running multiple monitors on a single GPU causes it to idle at 80c
My thoughts were to SLI 2 of them for the main monitor and then a separate card for the other two
@James Multiple cards, especially in side-to-side slots, adds up heat quick
@BenBrocka You would idle at that temp with a single card man
And was that one time or common? BEcause I can't force my card to go over 70C And the stubborn thing never seems to turn it's fan over 50% (that or the sensor's broken)
21:27
... actually you still may for all I know. I stopped using different resolution sizes a while ago
@BenBrocka Change the resolution of your second monitor to not match the other.
@James That seems like a major bug. Running 3 monitors on one card plus furmark 15 minutes burn-in didn't take me over 70. Though I didn't try furmark across all 3
@James ...why would I do that?
@fredley I'm not familiar with the type of thing that I'm seeing
At some point, I should get an IPS monitor and then switch my current monitor off to one side.
@Powerlord I love all the enhancements Win7 made to moving windows around.
@BenBrocka pop culture fail
@BenBrocka Because you just happen to have 3 monitors that you didnt buy all at the same time so do not support the same resolutions?
21:33
@James I can barely stand having 1 monitor that's different that is the same resolution and screen size...but yeah my 3 are all 1080p. So the card would freak out when given multiple monitors with multi-resolutions?
@fredley Prinnies aren't ducks
@InvaderSkoodge I love that stuff. Windows + arrow key
@BenBrocka I have not looked into see if the issues was resolved, I just have a monitor sitting on a desk doing nothing instead :)
Actually pretty much every windows key shortcut is awesome in 7. And win 8 added a few more
@BenBrocka Try windows+shift+arrow key.
Well you gotta test it. Where is your love of Science? SCIENCE!
@fredley I feel so special to have been chosen.
21:36
@Wipqozn <3
@InvaderSkoodge neat. I end up with lots of half-windows so I love win + arrow. One cat window, one youtube, one web browsing session
Occasionally a full screen game in the middle too, but not all games play nice with switching out of full screen...I love borderlands 2's "full screen windowed" for that
Full screen windowed is the best thing that happened to PC gaming in the past decade.
I prefer just windowed mode
and glance over to chat every now and then
One of the reasons I keep thinking I need a second monitor at home is even with the screen split, I'm sometimes juggling 3 windows (2 web browsers and an SSH session, for example). That's without ta... I hope you're kidding about full screen windowed.
@InvaderSkoodge I know WTF why don't more games have it?!
21:38
Full screen windowed tends to be slower... and by more than just a little bit... than a real full screen window.
@Powerlord Yeah, it is a performance hit, but just don't use it then if your computer can't handle it.
BL 2 is the only only one I'm aware of in recent memory
It's still a wonderful advancement.
Granted, last time I did full-screen windowed was before I had my current computer.
@BenBrocka GW2 has it, as does almost every Valve game.
21:39
@InvaderSkoodge It's just a maximized window with the window decorations removed.
@Powerlord Yes, it is. And it makes all the difference.
Its just that Direct3D hates that.
@Powerlord You're a TF2 player. TF2 is one of the buggiest games when it comes to alt-tabbing from and to real fullscreen mode I've ever played
XCOM also has Full Screen Windowed.
@badp TF2 alt-tabs rather quickly for me.
21:40
@James 3 monitors right? what sort of desk do you have for that? My desk barely fits my 3 in a panarama style orientation
Diablo 3 has it, I think StarCraft 2 has it.
Also if the in-game resolution and desktop resolutions don't match, switching between the two takes ages and is not fun
@badp I don't even bother alt tabbing from tf2, it just crashes
@InvaderSkoodge right, valve
@badp Yes, but Full Screen Windowed doesn't really solve this either. If you can't run it full screen normally, you definitely can't run it full screen windowed.
21:41
Battlefield 3 is not fun for alt tabbing either
@SaintWacko What exactly are you weirdos doing to my poor TF2.
Then again, I run both my desktop and games at 1920x1200.
@InvaderSkoodge Which is why I play games simply in Windowed mode
Check this out. Windowed borderless gaming on almost any game
Finally, the main argument against real full screen mode is, you guessed it, multiple monitors.
(Did I mention I have a 16:10 monitor rather than 16:9?)
21:41
@Powerlord Same here, and it still dies
@badp but full screen windowed works fabulously with multiple monitors
@BenBrocka I have a nice desk man, even with 3 monitors its about 2/3rds empty
I don't even have to alt tab in BL2, just hit tab and your mouse is free from the bounds of the game! FREEDOOMM
@BenBrocka I said, "AGAINST REAL FULL SCREEN MODE" as opposed to full screen windowed
My TF2 never crashes when I Alt+Tab
21:42
@badp Ah. Yeah it pretty much sucks
@Wipqozn shades
@OrigamiRobot Same here, thanks to windowed mode :P
oh fuck a creeper is trying to high-five me oh wait it's disabled
@OrigamiRobot high-five
@James My problem is I'm not sure I could easily fit a desk that supports 3 24" monitors nicely in the same spot. And I'm not sure what else to do to arrange my living room
21:44
presses and holds H
Plus 3 monitors in game isn't actually that fun, at least for BL2. I found my peripheralvision mostly useless
I forgot to try it in battlefield 3
@BenBrocka Bring down all the walls
I hear mauls work nicely for this. It's a three minutes job.
If you don't like it just middle click.
@badp lol. I love the rebuilding thing in that game
@badp Normally I can't tell that you don't natively speak English, but sometimes it just sneaks barely through.
"minutes'"?
21:50
Yeah.
Er.
"It's a three minute job."
" minutes' "
Standard in American english would usually be ...yeah
Which honestly I'm not sure why that makes sense, but it's a "3-minute" job which makes minute singular somehow?
I don't know why it works that way.
@badp Excellent
21:52
When using a number and a unit as an adjective, the unit generally isn't pluralized.
"It's a two foot pole."
@fredley MOD ABUSE goes well with everything
@InvaderSkoodge two foots*
@badp When I'm a mod, I'll out-abuse you
It doesn't take much, really. I excercise CONSIDERABLE AMOUNTS OF SELF RESTRAINT when I MOD ABUSE
@BenBrocka Because jobs is the noun and 3-minute is an adjective or sommat
21:54
It would have been funnier if you suspended him and changed his username to that URL
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@badp Given how much I use this site drunk, it's going to get very abusey
@BenBrocka I know! but there's always the risk of Powe--- er somebody not getting the joke or liking it really and then it blows up on MSO and it gets ugly
@BenBrocka My monitors sit on the back edge of my desk.
@badp I'll just drink until the 'problem' goes away
@fredley Just make sure your 'diamond' doesn't go with it :P
21:55
@badp Haha, if and when I actually get one
@badp Colin Powell doesn't even visit The Bridge!
@James straight line?
@Powerlord That's what she'd like us to think! In reality she lurks while logged off and regularly searches the transcript for mentions of her name
@Powerlord Quick, edit before it's too late
@badp Colin Powell is a woman now?
21:56
Who knows, maybe she set up an RSS feed or something. Efficiency is useful.
@Powerlord That's the other thing Colin Powell she'd like us to, er, not think!
Colin Luther Powell (; born April 5, 1937) is an American statesman and a retired four-star general in the United States Army. He was the 65th United States Secretary of State, serving under President George W. Bush from 2001 to 2005. He was the first African American to serve in that position. During his military career, Powell also served as National Security Advisor (1987–1989), as Commander of the U.S. Army Forces Command (1989) and as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (1989–1993), holding the latter position during the Persian Gulf War. He was the first, and so far the only, A...
D'oh, I was hoping it'd use the first pic
Also, does anyone know what FOV a 3 monitor set up game should use? The default ends up with really really narrow peripheral vision
Does it choose a random image when you link to Wikipedia?
@Powerlord Nobody knows.
@Powerlord I dunno, given how badly Reddit also fails at picking the right picture off an article I guess it's just not an easy problem to solve.
21:58
Particle man
'cause that one's like the sixth image down in a list of images that required me to scroll down to even see it.
I think the problem is the image must be in the infobox
@BenBrocka Triangle man
Anyway, I got to work early today, so I get to leave early.
@Powerlord Yeah it's pretty much random
21:59
Like... right now early.
and generally the least appropriate image possible
so the site skips it
see, here's the image in the page source:
{{Infobox officeholder
|birth_name=Colin Luther Powell
|name         = Colin Powell
|honorific-suffix =
|image        = Colin Powell 2005.jpg

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