The Bridge

LessPop_MoreFizz

12:04

Huh. I can't vote to delete a migrated question it seems.

Or downvote it once it's closed.

Ooh, nifty, when we closed it the migration notice at rpg disappeared too.

Yi Jiang

@LessPop_MoreFizz Closed migrated questions are "rejected"

They get sent back to sender

I think the version of the question here should also be deleted automatically

Just curious, you have access to the moderation tools, @LessPop_MoreFizz, how often do question get sent here from RPG and how often are they rejected?

It should be at tools/posts/migrated/stats

Lazers

12:24

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Q: Is there any explanation for the Island of Myst or how the player arrives there?

I know I'm many years behind the times; but I just played Myst for the first time this weekend on the PS3. I was absolutely disappointed with the ending; I thought the entire point of the game was to 'figure stuff out' but I don't feel as though I understand any of it. Was it explained in-game ...

myst

LessPop_MoreFizz

@YiJiang In the past 90 days we have had a total of 2 incoming mgrations, one from RPG, and one from Serverfault. Both were rejected

Yi Jiang

Surprisingly little. One from Server Fault? That's funny

Wipqozn

@YiJiang Probably about game servers or something.

LessPop_MoreFizz

... Ever, we've had... 5 come from RPG. 4 rejected.

Hmm. Our questions migrated to gamedev do not have a good track record.

like, they don't generally get closed, but the end up at 0 or negative score and unanswered usually.

Might be worth reexamining how we deal with questions about stuff like the elder scrolls creation kit and such. (Not that I particularly want the questions, but it's clear that even if they're ostensibly welcome on game dev, they aren't getting answers there, so migration might not be the best idea going forward, vs. just closing them outright.)

Oh hey, GTA 3 for mobile devices is $0.99 today only so you should go get it because that is a stupid cheap price. Check the App Store/Market of your choice.

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Yi Jiang

@LessPop_MoreFizz It's also that for Android

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rockstar.gta3

Martin Sojka

12:52

@LessPop_MoreFizz Are they tagged somewhat specially there? I might be able to answer some of them (unless they are for Skyrim or FNV).

Wipqozn

Oh goodie. Myst is on steam. I've always wanted to play through that series. I'll need to pick it up at some point.

Martin Sojka

Mist on steam? Isn't that kinda redundant?

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SaintWacko

@Wipqozn I actually bought it for a couple bucks at the flea market a while back

Martin Sojka

Anyway, nothing much unanswered for Oblivion on GameDev.SE, so I guess we're fine there. Bring those modder questions! :D

SaintWacko

13:08

area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/46985/projectile-pumpkins/…

LessPop_MoreFizz

@MartinSojka gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/creation-kit

SaintWacko

@LessPop_MoreFizz You are a terrible person :P

LessPop_MoreFizz

@SaintWacko upvotes plz.

Martin Sojka

@LessPop_MoreFizz Adding " -[skyrim]" to that leaves me with two questions, which are sill about Skyrm, just not tagged as such.

Let me see if I can fix that ...

@SaintWacko Just fire those things on the moon. Easy record breaking! (For some specific values of "easy").

LessPop_MoreFizz

@MartinSojka Upvote my question on that proposal please.

Thanks.

user15026

13:30

@SaintWacko O.o I love that. For some reason it delights me.

SaintWacko

@AshleyNunn Yeah, punkin chunkin is pretty awesome, but I really doubt that site would get enough questions :D

I've actually built a couple siege engines

user15026

@SaintWacko But it would be a beautiful addition to the site list at the bottom of every page if it made it past beta :P

SaintWacko

They weren't for pumpkins, but still...

user15026

@SaintWacko That is awesome. What did you use, if not pumpkins?

Martin Sojka

I like how the "Lost and Found" proposal lists "people" as one of the possible categories. Reminds me of the newest Oglaf comic.

user15026

13:34

@MartinSojka O.o seriously?

Martin Sojka

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SFW, aside from (maybe) the language. :)

SaintWacko

@MartinSojka Haha, that's awesome

user15026

Somehow, I have managed to kill image links in chat. I have no idea how I did it, much less how to undo it.

Wipqozn

@MartinSojka Is that intended to be a reference to something?

SaintWacko

Also, a human caravan just showed up during a siege and was mercilessly slaughtered by frogmen. Hopefully the humans don't think I did it

@Wipqozn greeka.com/greece-myths/orpheus-eurydice.htm

Yi Jiang

13:37

@SaintWacko They will, though I think they'll keep sending caravans anyway

SaintWacko

@YiJiang Just so long as it's caravans and not more sieges

I've never actually had this happen before. Masterwork makes the world a lot more dangerous

On the upside, I got the entire contents of that caravan for free :D

Damn, I should have told them to bring more armor and weapons!

Yi Jiang

@SaintWacko After a while, when your fortress is self sufficient you might want to consider turning your depot into a death trap to do that anyway

SaintWacko

@YiJiang I have too much of a conscience to do that

Yi Jiang

@SaintWacko But if you do that they'll also jack up the prices on the extra armor and weapons

SaintWacko

I just make massive amounts of stone mugs and trade those

Yi Jiang

13:39

Very annoying, especially if the quality of the stuff is high, the price becomes ridiculous

fbueckert

Good morning, Bridge

SaintWacko

@YiJiang Right, I'm saying last time, so I would have gotten it all free

Yi Jiang

Hahaha

user15026

@fbueckert Good morning :)

Grace Note

@fbueckert Good morning

SaintWacko

13:40

Now just to wait for the frogmen to leave so I can claim the loot

@fbueckert Morning

fbueckert

Now, to continue my travails with Sharepoint.

On the plus side, fixing my phone was fairly simple. Stupid constant crashing.

Wipqozn

@SaintWacko I love Greek mythology.

user15026

@fbueckert Well, that's good at least.

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Yeah, it was about a ten minute fix. Delete storage data for a couple built-in android programs, reboot, and done!

SaintWacko

@Wipqozn Yeah, they have the greatest myths

user15026

13:43

@fbueckert Hurrah!

SaintWacko

@fbueckert Yeah, I've had that problem a few times

fbueckert

@Wipqozn All the incest! Their family tree is so intertwined it's crazy.

user15026

Hahaha the prof in this class keeps calling on me during discussion. I have no voice, so I mostly squeak, and he apologizes, and picks someone else, but this keeps happening XD

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn Sounds amusing.

tiddy

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user15026

13:45

@Wipqozn For everyone but me, yeah XD

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Honey tea.

user15026

@fbueckert Yeah, I have a giant mug of it with me today, and will make more when I go home for lunch. :)

Wipqozn

@fbueckert Are you suggesting she throw hot, boiling tea in the Professors face?

SaintWacko

@Wipqozn No, he was trying out a pet name for @AshleyNunn

fbueckert

@Wipqozn No, I'm suggesting she throw hot, boiling tea against the back of her throat.

SaintWacko

13:46

@fbueckert Ow.

Wipqozn

@SaintWacko Cute.

user15026

@SaintWacko O.o blush XD

SaintWacko

@AshleyNunn ;)

fbueckert

@SaintWacko The brain's got a pretty interesting pain shunting mechanism.

At any given moment, it can really only focus on a single point of pain.

Wipqozn

fbueckert

13:47

It tends to go with the most severe one.

SaintWacko

@fbueckert Yes, but that pain sounds much worse

user15026

@SaintWacko I am not entirely convinced. Feels like a family of dragons played target practice with my uvula or something.

fbueckert

So whenever someone complains to me about something, I offer to break an arm or something, as that would stop it from focusing on their original pain.

Wipqozn

There we go. That's the one I originally wanted.

user15026

@fbueckert I would almost take that right now.

Martin Sojka

13:49

@fbueckert You could offer to break your arm. That would probably be amusing enough to watch to forget the pain.

Wipqozn

fbueckert

@MartinSojka Nah; I'd just hyper extend it, and creep out most of the people around me.

user15026

@fbueckert It would probably amuse me enough that I would ask you to do it again. I have an odd fascination with these things.

SaintWacko

@AshleyNunn Yes, we know how much you like violence :P

user15026

@SaintWacko Shhh I'mma pacifist.....really.... (I just like when things go boom, or splat....)

SaintWacko

13:52

@AshleyNunn ...Or crack, or pow, or bam, or crunch, or...

user15026

@SaintWacko All of those sound lovely, yes. :D

SaintWacko

Ugh. Now 'or' looks wrong

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn The ragdoll physics in Afterlight are amusing.

user15026

@fbueckert Do people go flying with limbs all over the place? I like when that happens

user15026

@SaintWacko semantic satiation!

fbueckert

13:54

I've flung Beastmen something like 30 feet just by shooting them in the head.

user15026

@fbueckert That is beautiful.

Yi Jiang

Holy crap, today's xkcd

It'd be great if some news network started featuring partisan hack talking heads who were all Federalists and Jacksonians, just to see how long it took us to catch on.

Yay infographs

user15026

I have no idea what this is, but from a distance, it looks pretty.

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user15026

.....wow. That makes me sound like a featherbrain.

Martin Sojka

My favourite tidbit of information about the history of the USA's parties is the fact that the Republicans arose in power during the civil war as an anti-slavery party, opposed to the pro-slavery Democrats. :D

LessPop_MoreFizz

13:58

@MartinSojka Yeah. The flip was a slow transition between 1932 and 1964.

Look up Dixiecrat for some real fun.

user15026

I am consciously aware of the feeling of my own eyeballs in my skull. It is a very weird sensation.

Grace Note

@AshleyNunn Bet it feels less weird than having a laser fired into your retina to burn stuff.

user15026

@GraceNote O.o I suspect so.

user15026

Although apparently I am at high risk for retinal tearing, so I might yet experience that.

Grace Note

Y'know, to be fair, even after having gone through the procedure, I still have no idea what exactly the purpose of the laser was.

@AshleyNunn You too? It's not a very comfortable risk to be sitting on, I know.

user15026

14:10

@GraceNote No, it's kinda alarming

user15026

@GraceNote I think it is used to kinda...put your retinas back together, if I recall the hazy explanation I got years ago.

user15026

Okay, yeah, based on quick research, the lasers are used to seal any possibly tearing bit.

Grace Note

@AshleyNunn Yeah, but how does it even accomplish that? Lasik surgery is easy to comprehend, the laser is used to reshape your lens like a sculptor. But this, is it like, welding?

user15026

@GraceNote Yeah, essentially.

Grace Note

Apparently it's essentially a permanent fix though, once you go through the process.

user15026

14:12

They are essentially creating a scar that seals everything together.

user15026

@GraceNote That is oddly comforting, actually.

fbueckert

@GraceNote I'm a little leery about getting laser surgery. My eyes are crazy bad, but I don't like the risk of blindness. I like being able to see.

Grace Note

@AshleyNunn It is a quick procedure. Your eye(s) might be a little fuzzied for that day, but I was operational after a good bedrest and was fully functional by the following day.

user15026

@fbueckert Mine are -10 and -11, and I haven't even thought about getting it done because I have been told that it likely wont help me very much.

user15026

@GraceNote Hm, good to know. :) The risks associated with it (like OMG you might go blind) freak me out immensely. But knowing it is a relatively quick thing to deal with makes me feel better.

fbueckert

14:15

@AshleyNunn I haven't even looked into it. I might, soon, as it's time to get another pair of glasses; these are ~5 years old at this point.

user15026

@fbueckert Yeah, I talked to my eye doctor at one point about it, and he is like "yeah, your eyes are bad enough, and with your retinal tear risk, that I really don't recommend it at this time.

Grace Note

@AshleyNunn The "might go blind" of not doing anything outweighed any concerns about the procedure (plus the procedural risk is much, much less than the risk for leaving it unattended, at the stage I was in).

user15026

@GraceNote This is a very fair concern - if you are at the stage that they want to do the fancy lasering, I can imagine you are at higher risk if you don't do it than if you do.

Grace Note

To put in perspective, I only had my right eye laser'd. My left eye also is in conditional risk but it didn't have the same issue that my right eye did, and the retina specialist told me that he didn't think it would even be helpful at all to do anything to the left eye at this time.

user15026

@GraceNote Well, that's good at least.

Martin Sojka

14:20

Yeah, I consider corrective surgery for one (left) eye as a start as well. Right now, it's so bad and croaked that it contributes less than 10% of my usual vision - I basically can cover it up and not notice much of a difference, not even driving a car. If everything goes bad and I lose it completely? Ow well. No big loss. I'll just go and ask my friends at Google if they have an eye-socket-implantable version of their glasses, I guess. :D

Lazers

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Q: What are metal doors in Circle of Magi tower are for?

In the Circle of Magi tower, in the Senior Mage Quarters there are metal doors that cannot be picked, or opened otherwise: What is beyond them, and how does one get inside?

dragon-age-origins

user15026

Without my glasses, I can see for maybe 6 inches before things get blurry (as in all I can see is blobs of colour, without shape)

Grace Note

My vision is actually pretty decent.

user15026

Mine is very much non-good - my eyes are basically becoming so misshapen that that is why I am at a retinal tearing risk.

Grace Note

Used to be a whole lot better, though, but eh. My comparison points are against the rest of my family, who are almost blind without their glasses to different degrees.

LessPop_MoreFizz

14:32

Oh hey PunchQuest is out.

user15026

@GraceNote Without my glasses, I am pretty much doomed. When I can't find them in the morning, it becomes sheer crazy panic time

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz iOS only? :(

Grace Note

I'm actually about as functional without my glasses as I am functional in the dark. Which is to say I'm actually pretty good in the dark. Everyone else in the family needs a serious source of light, too, so it's funny that.

I will lose my glasses only because I misplace them somewhere stupid. And if I do I just can't play games on the TV, that's about the only issue in daily life.

user15026

@GraceNote It's interesting then that you were the one needing the lasering.

user15026

I am useless in the dark, and useless without my glasses.

Grace Note

14:35

@AshleyNunn I have a condition called "lattice degeneration" which, combined with being nearsighted (however weakly so) makes me much more predisposed to tearing than the rest of my family.

user15026

I have actually called people I lived with at work to come home and help me find my glasses because I am pretty much paralyzed without them - I can't do much of anything.

user15026

@GraceNote Ah, yes, that would do it.

user15026

knows a lot about eye issues, because she was curious and did a lot of research

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Whew. I'm glad I'm not that bad. I'm functional enough to be able to recognize what's a person, and what's an obstacle.

Which is good, because I had to dance without them.

Grace Note

What happened last week was that I developed symptomatic lattice degeneration in my right superior retina, which lead to some retinal fluid movements that were very not nice. That's why I had to get the lasering done.

user15026

14:36

@fbueckert I only know which are people because I generally know what colours people are and what colours my things are in familiar environments where I wouldn't have my glasses (like in my bedroom)

user15026

@GraceNote yeah, that would be very not nice.

Martin Sojka

@GraceNote Heh, yeah, I'm kinda like that. Full moon visible? It could be as well a sunny day for me. :D

user15026

@MartinSojka See, the moment it hits twilight, I start to struggle with seeing.

user15026

It doesn't help I have depth perception issues to boot.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@AshleyNunn Yeah

Grace Note

14:39

@MartinSojka Indeed. Extremely strong dark acclimation skill is very, very handy. Also good for reducing electricity costs.

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz makes a sad face

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Winter here in Canada must not be nice for you; it's dark when I get up for work, and dark when I leave.

Martin Sojka

I love to freak people out by simply walking around in near-complete darkness like it was nothing.

Grace Note

I do less freaking people out, more frustrating people because I never turn on the lights for them.

user15026

@fbueckert Yeah, it's unawesome. I tend to hermit in familiar environments after dark. (ie I mostly stay home) - late night classes where I have to walk home after dark is always a fascinating exercise.

user15026

14:40

@GraceNote See, I am the opposite, I tend to turn on all the lights and drive people mad with my inability to remember to turn them off, because I am so reliant.

Grace Note

@AshleyNunn I am the people you would drive mad, haha.

A consequence of myself, though, is that I also don't look a lot at when lights are even on. So sometimes I forget to shut off lights that I don't even remember turning on in the first place.

pixel

I never turn on lights

user15026

@GraceNote Because you arent reliant on them, so you don't retain the information that they are on?

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn I keep lecturing my roommates to turn on the lights when they're doing stuff.

Grace Note

@AshleyNunn More, I don't usually turn on certain light switches consciously, so when I do turn them on, I don't recall that I did, so I don't pay heed to them being turned on.

user15026

14:43

@GraceNote Right. That makes sense.

fbueckert

They probably get annoyed at me, but since I'm paying for power, they have no reason not to.

Grace Note

@fbueckert "Now, you're playing for power!"

user15026

@fbueckert See, when I am left to my own devices, all my lights are on everywhere, alway - its one of the reasons I make sure that utilities are included in my rent XD

fbueckert

@GraceNote Derp

Grace Note

@fbueckert It was a perfect setup. I couldn't help myself. ♪

Martin Sojka

14:44

The other strange thing I like to do to freak people out is relying on my sense of direction (or rather, my sense of "where is everything else in relation to me") to just walk at high speed through places they know I never visited before like I lived there half of my life, and if asked where something else is, pointing in the direction and telling "There." :)

user15026

@MartinSojka See, I am lucky if I can find something twice even if I have been there.

user15026

I rely mostly on things being the same every time I encounter them

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn That, I get annoyed at. :P If you're not in the room, turn off the lights. Overall, though, I'm not too annoyed at it.

user15026

@fbueckert I tend to forget they are on, because to me, it is just "oh this is a room I can see in" not "oh the lights are on"

Grace Note

I did learn that while I'm great in the dark, I still haven't really learned my house 100% with my eyes closed. I misjudged distance a lot so I ended up having to use my feet to tell when the floor hits certain points to navigate around obstacles.

pixel

14:46

you know, you can see if you turn the lights off for a bit

user15026

@pixel not if you have a distinct lack of low light vision, as I do.

fbueckert

@GraceNote I just use my hands when I can't see; I just need a general fix, and I'm off.

pixel

oh there is that hole I was hiding in!

user15026

My eyes take long to adjust, and often, the quality of sight is not very good.

Grace Note

@fbueckert Wailing hands through the air is a great way to break things. Using your feet to shuffle along the ground, on the other hand, is a great way to detect all the things relevant to my course of travel without any danger to them.

Martin Sojka

14:47

@AshleyNunn See, I remember every place I ever was in, but only the way I reached it - using a plane is worst, because there is no mental connection between the airports. Using my feet is the best, because I can quickly "walk" from where I am and where I ever were, at any point in my life, and point in that direction.

user15026

@GraceNote I can't do it with my eyes closed, but I can do it based on the colours of things.

Martin Sojka

Consequently, I like to walk. A lot. :)

user15026

@MartinSojka I love walking, but I tend to get lost in my own neighbourhood if I don't stick to paths where I know what the houses and streets are.

fbueckert

@GraceNote Why are you flailing your hands? I just follow a wall.

user15026

Google maps on my phone is a lifesaver.

pixel

14:49

@fbueckert walls have stuff on them too

Martin Sojka

@AshleyNunn Yes, that thing is great for planning trips. :)

user15026

@GraceNote When I am without my glasses, my feet are my lifesaver. Because I spent most of my time at home without socks, so I am aware of how the floors and such feel in different areas.

fbueckert

It helps that I regularly use them to help me change my direction in the normal course of movement, so corners help me recognize where I am.

user15026

@MartinSojka or getting you home when you realize that nothing looks familiar anyore.

user15026

@fbueckert I tend to run into them more often than not - I have trouble judging my location relative to the wall and corners.

user15026

14:50

I have no sense of how much space I take up relative to anything else.

agent86

@AshleyNunn, are you feeling ill still today? You'd mentioned you were losing your voice...

user15026

@agent86 my throat is on fire and my voice is gone and I can feel my eyeballs. I feel terrible. Are you any better?

agent86

@AshleyNunn oh good lord. I had that at the beginning of my cold, but I am luckily towards the end now. just a bit stopped up

I had a birthday party this weekend that was slightly challenging

user15026

Yeah, I keep acquiring new and fascinating symptoms. It's awesome in that "How many ways can I be sick in rapid succession" sort of way.

agent86

@AshleyNunn well, take lots of fun drugs, and I hope you feel better soon.

I used to get ear infections and throat infections about once a month as a kid, until they determined I had allergies real bad

user15026

14:58

Yeah this is new for me - I don't usually get sick ever.

pixel

drugs is the answer

Grace Note

@fbueckert Walls are not everywhere in my house. I have a very open home. Also, there's stuff between where I can walk and where the wall is, sometimes.

agent86

@AshleyNunn I didn't for a number of years, and then children

SaintWacko

Yay, the siege finally lifted!

Time to go claim my loot!

fbueckert

@GraceNote Granted, I've got a pretty small house, so walls are everywhere.

agent86

15:00

they go to this place called "preschool" although I'm convinced it's secretly a biological warfare testing laboratory

Wipqozn

I love this guy.

fbueckert

@agent86 Kids are germ factories; it's just the way life is.

user15026

@agent86 that doesn't surprise me - children are prime germ incubation facilities.

Wipqozn

user2334

@Wipqozn yep, largely pointless

agent86

15:02

@Wipqozn AT-AT gamecube?

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Whereas our immune system goes, "Bob? That you again? Sorry, you gotta move on.", kids are like, "Hey, new guy! C'mon in, take a load off!"

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agent86

(although my star wars is a bit rusty, so perhaps I'm mis-labeling that particular device.)

SaintWacko

Ahhh, so much lewts!

agent86

@fbueckert I think also the floor of preschool classrooms is actually the surface of a petri dish for some giant's experiment

Wipqozn

> And reading-order questions are, by their very nature, from those who haven't read the books.

fbueckert

15:03

@agent86 They could scrub it down, ala. Hospitals, but then, they'd run into the same problem with superbugs.

Wipqozn

agent86

fe fi FO FUM I smell the DNA of streptococcal pharyngitis

Wipqozn

@MarkTrapp It would appear attempting to have any sort of discussion with that site is pointless.

user15026

@agent86 haha yeah. They're probably using preschools as breeding grounds to cure the giant version of the common cold or something.

Wipqozn

Frankly, this community became positively toxic to those asking questions. As I said on chat, I'm very strongly considering not asking any more of them. — DVK 4 hours ago

@MarkTrapp I created so much drama with one question.

user15026

15:06

@wipqozn yeah they don't seem to be interested in actual practical discussion, from what I have seen. Which is why I am refusing to engage.

user15026

@wipqozn he is essentially presenting a "I will take my toys and go home" argument.

user2334

@Wipqozn yep. I suspect I wouldn't care as much if their whimsy and Deschanel-esque quirkiness when it comes to moderation didn't end up deleting some of my best contributions. The CC license: she's a harsh mistress

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn It feels like a large part of the problem is the moderator, Gilles. My original question was going fine, until the mod came along and was, quite frankly, an ass.

user2334

@Wipqozn I don't think you created it so much as re-opened a couple of festering sores.

Wipqozn

@MarkTrapp So it would seem.

Although gilles would have you believe I'm just trying to... oh what was the words he used in The Assembly..."teach SciFi how to do things right, since everything they are doing is wrong"

Having a mod with his kind of attitude is toxic to a site.

Anyways, I've complained enough about this for one sitting. I really need to be heading to class.

user2334

15:12

You got a double-whammy: the most active user on the site is mega paranoid everyone is DVing and VTCing everything he does as a personal vendetta too

user2334

BYE WIPQOZN I'LL MISS U

Wipqozn

@MarkTrapp ah, yes. I seen that. I lol'd.

user15026

@wipqozn that is a terrible attitude for him to have.

Wipqozn

@MarkTrapp I'LL MISS YOU TOO

tortoise swoosh

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Seeing as how most of the high rep users are there for the Legendary badge, from what I recall, anything that hinders that rep gain is unpalatable and must be expunged.

Grace Note

15:16

Martin Sojka

@fbueckert ... and here I thought Gaming.SE would be the biggest group of XP grinders.

fbueckert

@MartinSojka Oh, I'm pretty sure we have a few badge grinders. But we also have an extremely active userbase that goes, "Nope, that's a stupid question."

So it sorta balances out.

user2334

Arqade is totally balanced towards casuals, too: you get exp just for showing up. WTF BLIZZ

user2334

@GraceNote what they don't tell you is that the archers are also elephants.

fbueckert

sigh Who the crap voted to reopen this gem?

pixel

15:19

It was me

I was the turkey all along

Me... the turkey

Mad Scientist

@fbueckert The OP can vote to reopen as well

fbueckert

@MadScientist I thought that required 200 rep for your own questions?

Mad Scientist

Not sure, I thought I had seen this with rather low-rep user, but I might be wrong

I don't have a sockpuppet with a closed question to test

SaintWacko

@MadScientist So go post a really bad question from a sockpuppet!

Grace Note

@fbueckert I thought we already had that question, anyway. I might be thinking of a question just about a specific hidden passive that mentions all the others, though.

GnomeSlice

15:23

@MadScientist I do!

Er, wait, no I don't, they've all been merged.

SaintWacko

"I remember a movie that had fighting in it. I want a list of all the movies like that."

That should get closed pretty fast :P

fbueckert

@SaintWacko "And provide a list of time travelling robots, please."

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SaintWacko

@fbueckert Well, of course!

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko Whoosh

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Eh?

user15026

15:27

@fbueckert Oh, we can't forget those. Those are of ultimate importance.

Martin Sojka

Wait ... let me get it right, that "dlanod" guy asked an easy question and answered it in the same minute himself, with the minimum amount of text possible for an answer, and got at least 15 upvotes for it? I don't know if I should be more astonished by the fact he thought such an easy troll for attention would work, or that it actually worked ...

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn I gotta give the troll points for persistence, even if I hate his guts for continually trying.

user15026

@fbueckert Pretty much. I admire and loathe him all at once.

user15026

@MartinSojka Link?

Martin Sojka

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Q: Who was the judge in The Dark Knight Rises?

The man "judging" (offering them the choice of exile or death) the rich and the police brought in front of him in The Dark Knight Rises looked very familiar. Have we seen him before?

movie dc-comics batman dark-knight-rises

fbueckert

15:29

@MartinSojka Welcome to SciFi. Where the trivial and inane are classified as interesting.

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user15026

@MartinSojka O.o. Well then.

user15026

@fbueckert As much as I hate bashing another network site...yeah.

LessPop_MoreFizz

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn I call it like I see it. The fact that it's true saddens me greatly.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert I love SciFi.SE

user15026

15:30

@fbueckert Aye, I am with you on that one.

GnomeSlice

I just don't have anything to ask or answer.

SaintWacko

@LessPop_MoreFizz Wow

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz O.O

Invader Skoodge

@GnomeSlice You would.

Martin Sojka

@fbueckert I had to triple-check to make sure I didn't misread any dates or user names ...

SaintWacko

15:32

@MartinSojka He even writes it like he's answering someone else's question...

user15026

@SaintWacko I don't fault him for that - I have done that on my self-answers here. it seems to flow better for me.

SaintWacko

@AshleyNunn Try again :P Edit: There, hit the apostrophe that time :D

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn It's one of the reasons I don't frequent that site.

Martin Sojka

I mean, I'm all for trying your best to get crap past the radar ... but that? That's a work of an utter bloody amateur.

user15026

@SaintWacko Shush, you ;)

user15026

15:33

@fbueckert I tend to avoid it because it holds no value for me.

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Change of subject time! Books! How goes Honor Harrington's adventures?

SaintWacko

@AshleyNunn More importantly, which Heinlein book are you on?

user15026

@fbueckert @SaintWacko Quite well! Finished the first one, loved it, got distracted by the latest Mercedes Lackey (which I didn't love as much as I wanted), finishing Feast for Crows because I feel bad for neglecting it, then I am going to read the second HH book, then more Heinlein (starting in alphabetical order, which means I need to a) figure out what comes first, and b) find an e-copy of whatever that is)

user15026

SO MANY BOOKS SO LITTLE TIME

user15026

I also have to keep up with class reading. XD

fbueckert

15:37

@AshleyNunn Alphabetical is as good as any other, for Heinlein.

SaintWacko

Yep, no particular order

user15026

@fbueckert Yeah, I needed some sort of system, and that seemed to be a nice one to pick.

SaintWacko

His books do share the same universe, so they reference events in other books, but it's not like you won't understand what's going on if you don't read a certain other book first

user15026

Oh, that's good :D

fbueckert

@SaintWacko They only share the same universe because they bend the universes into a single one.

SaintWacko

15:38

Well, most of them share the same universe

user15026

I figure I will make a nice list of all of the books, alphabetize it, then systematically hunt them down in epub format.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Easier system for Heinlein: Read Stranger, and The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Then stop. Maybe Starship Troopers if you're curious because you saw the movie.

SaintWacko

@LessPop_MoreFizz ...Why?

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz I read The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Quite liked it.

SaintWacko

There are so, so, so many other good Heinlein books!

LessPop_MoreFizz

15:39

@SaintWacko because most of the rest of his work isn't that good?

SaintWacko

@LessPop_MoreFizz :O

Which other ones have you read?

The Stack Exchange Blog

Blog - Stack Exchange: SE Podcast #35 – A Biscuit Away from Jerry Stiller

Alex Miller on October 29, 2012

Welcome to Stack Exchange podcast #35 with special guest Scott Hanselman. We also have your loyal cohosts, Jay Hanlon and David Fullerton. And Joel Spolsky?

What exactly would Scott say that he does here?

Scott Hanselman runs a podcast that doesn’t waste your time… unlike we have for the first nine minutes.

Let’s talk about Scott’s recent presentation at Webstock! Or we’ll talk about how Scott is not a developer evangelist, despite popular belief. He is a community manager for ASP.net, IIS, anything angle bracket or curly brace related, anything “webby”. …

SaintWacko

Friday is excellent, as is Assignment in Eternity, and Starship Galileo, and The Man Who Sold the Moon, and so many others

user15026

@SaintWacko They all sound so good that I was like "I have to assign some sort of arbitrary reading order or I am going to be paralyzed by choice"

SaintWacko

@AshleyNunn I mainly read them in alphabetical order so I know which ones I've already read

user15026

15:41

@SaintWacko That is another upside, yes.

SaintWacko

Also, you already have a list of all of them in alphabetical order, and epubs of them :P

LessPop_MoreFizz

Let's see... I've read The Puppet Masters, Starman Jones, Starship Troopers, Have Spaceship Will Travel, Stranger, Moon is a Harsh mistress, Fear No Evil, Time Enough For Love, Job, and the Cat Who Walks Through Walls.

SaintWacko

@LessPop_MoreFizz Spacesuit*

And you didn't like any of those?

LessPop_MoreFizz

Because people kept telling me no no no this one is good! Those other ones were only okay, but this one is really great!

The three I mentioned as worth reading range from great to pretty okay in the order I named them

GnomeSlice

Bah, all of the SE podcasts feature people I've never heard of.

LessPop_MoreFizz

15:43

The others... meh.

SaintWacko

@LessPop_MoreFizz Puppet Masters is different, but still good

LessPop_MoreFizz

I suspect I am pickier than you.

SaintWacko

Cat who Walks Through Walls is classic Heinlein, but the ending is depressing

We may just have different tastes. What sort of book do you usually read?

GnomeSlice

I should read more again. =[

LessPop_MoreFizz

In terms of SFF stuff, I end to be primarily into new weird type authors these days. Mieville, Vandermeer, etc. etc. etc.

user2334

15:45

@TheStackExchangeBlog Jerry Stiller? Isn't that the guy who plays George's father? I hope they asked him about roosters, hens, and chickens

SaintWacko

@LessPop_MoreFizz Ohhh

LessPop_MoreFizz

If tu esta still en Zone A, tu es already dead muerte por que tu es estupido. No llamando 911 por que no rescue para tu!

Tweeted by ElBloombito on October 29, 2012 at 3:43 PM

SaintWacko

Yeah, we have very different tastes

LessPop_MoreFizz

@SaintWacko In terms of older stuff, I like the new wave folks. Your leguins and your moorcocks.

SaintWacko

I tried reading Mieville, and just couldn't get into it

LessPop_MoreFizz

15:46

Asmiov's complete works could be set on fire and I wouldn't shed a tear.

SaintWacko

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yep, opposite tastes

GnomeSlice

@MarkTrapp Weird, the podcast on soundcloud says it has someone called 'Scott Hanselman'.

SaintWacko

My favorite scifi authors are Heinlein, Asimov, and Niven

GnomeSlice

I wish I was as learned as you guys.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Todos los shelteros que esta accessible de wheelchairo. Por que esta how yo roll.

Tweeted by ElBloombito on October 29, 2012 at 3:46 PM

GnomeSlice

15:47

=[

LessPop_MoreFizz

hahahahahaha

I <3 Bloombito

user2334

@MartinSojka self-answering is not bad; it's even encouraged. But the question is inane and easily answerable with an outside resource. On sites like ours, that deserves a down-vote. But SciFi is one of 2 sites on the network that has a "general reference" close reason, where being an inane or easily-answered question is a reason to close. So the obvious question is: why wasn't it closed? That touched a few nerves.

user15026

Just called work to see if they wanted me in even without a voice. My boss was liek "since it took me three tries to understand who was calling, no, I think we are good without you today."

GnomeSlice

Martin Sojka

@MarkTrapp Self-answering your quick two-lines question with a quick two-lines answer in the same minute (so nobody else can do a better job) is encouraged ... and gets at least 15 up-votes too?

GnomeSlice

15:52

@MartinSojka There's nothing wrong with self-answering.

Martin Sojka

I don't so much question why people didn't VtC the question earlier. I question the sanity of those who actually upvoted this shoddy, amateur, low-effort, half-assed piece of non-work.

user2334

@MartinSojka According to some people on SciFi? Yeah. To the rest of SE, self answering is okay as long as the information is not found elsewhere in an easily accessible form. But sometimes questions like that go unnoticed: it was being resolved until yesterday.

user2334

Arqade has had its share of massively-upvoted questions that probably shouldn't have ever existed, too: all SE sites do. Such is the nature of a low barrier to voting. The important thing is if a community can self-correct when it comes up

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice For shame!

One of my cats ran away from a mouse once :(

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Yay! Day off!

SaintWacko

15:55

He's this huge cat, but he's dumb as a rock and scared of everything

Very loving cat, though, if he knows you

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko My cats used to be scared of mice.

The neurotic one started eating them though, which was good, I guess.

user15026

@fbueckert Yeah. I was like "I can do this job silently"... my boss just laughed, told me to drink tea with honey, and enjoy the lazy time to play vidoe games. XD

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice I have three cats: A big fat siamese mama cat, who will just lie there and watch a mouse

GnomeSlice

I had two, but just one is left now.

SaintWacko

My little tortoiseshell, who helps me catch mice

user15026

15:57

@SaintWacko My cat is dumb as post but super adorable...when he sees bugs, he;s like "What do I do with this OH GOD IT MOVES"

SaintWacko

and the big dumb tabby, who runs from them

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn My job is possible to do from home, so when I get a sick day, I try to do what I can; I'm the only one who works on my projects, so if I don't do it, nothing gets done.

user15026

@fbueckert haha yeah, I can't pick books fo library shelves from home XD

SaintWacko

I love my tortoiseshell, she's such a smart cat. And she listens to me

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn One of the benefits of being a techie. :P

SaintWacko

15:58

@AshleyNunn You need to work on that psionics a bit more!

user15026

@SaintWacko It's a slow developing skill.

fbueckert

@SaintWacko I used to live with a big calico. She was very affectionate.

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